He says this so that when some presents his music to someone of the world they don’t see the “label christian rapper” and think of Corny rap. Trust me if he wasn’t himself he’d be doing the things of the world. Plus as a Christian were called to save the lost. He has never changed he’s been the same guy since day one. A lot of people over look this and think he has sold out or changed. I promise you he hasn’t you would see such a big difference. Bless up.
@@dravenparra435 I see where u may be coming from but the word says friendship of the world is enmity with God and when you got a platform and afraid to say the name of Jesus Christ and afraid to speak on hard issues you are doing just that but we all need salvation it's not to condemn him or his followers it's just the truth kanye is apart of the converging church as well with that olstien gospel
To each there own, however I would rather be labeled a Christian Rapper any day of the week cause I always try and put Christ first. I personally don't think the label held Lecrae back at all, however did cause a lot of conflict throughout the genre when it became a topic..... I say stick with Jesus Muzik.... AMEN!
Christian Hip Hop “rather be labeled a Christian rapper” and always putting Christ first has no correlation. Sounds like you have some more growing to do. Some people praise God w/ their lips but their hearts are far from him. Things you say matter but not more than the life you live.
@@terrycrews1760 More growing huhhh - I guess when one expresses their opinion and it is not yours that means your grown and their not? I can't even debate logic like that. God Bless you Shakalaka and thank you for your opinion...
Mannnn I don’t understand - why would you say unashamed and you be ashamed to be labeled a Christian rapper - the majority of your fan base Christian people buy your music -- you came up with a mission statement now you changed your mission statement - bro this was the time to speak boldly about your faith and show this man you are truly a follower of Christ in every area -- As for me and mine we shall serve the lord - #carryon #liveandgrow
Hey Kingdom Muzic Bryann T, Antwoine Hill,Monica Hill etc... You need to pay close attention or as the Word of GOD instructs be Vigilant because the Devil as a roaring Lion seeking whom to devour, the Most High can give any of us over to a reprobate mind if we are not careful. I've followed you since I became born again in August 2014 and there was a Humble, humility side to you guys, but now all I see is Vanity!! Any chance to get in front of the camara I see you take it and it seems like let me show off my new Gear and Kiks (Street image). You probably don't realize that there are People in the streets dying for these vain things. We all Have been Deceived into this False Comfortable, Christianity that is opposite of the True Gospel. Please do not take this as hating but IN YESHUA'S Love!! Please Come back to the Humble, Holy Spirit Filled, Less of Me (Image) and More of JESUS Before you end up reprobate like Lecrae. And I know there is still Plenty of Mercy and Grace from the Heavenly Father for him to come back as long as he is still breathing and We Hope and Pray you all do. Love you but Most importantly YESHUA the Messiah Loves us and wants us to awaken from our Slumber (comfortably) 🙏🏽🙏🏽
For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will also be ashamed of him when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels." (Mark 8:38, NASB)
Phanatik82 ummm the dudes record label is 116 based on Romans 1:16. Kind of hard to call him ashamed. Matthew 7:1-2. Look it up. See how easy it is to quote scripture and apply it to you? We could do this all day.
The definition for religion is the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. so if you believe in god how is it possible not to believe in religion that’s the action you are taking if you worship god
I believe in God. I'm Catholic but I have absolutely no belief in the Catholic church. As what they teach they do not follow. Just look at the hurt and pain they have caused Ireland. 🇮🇪🇵🇸
Mann you on to something. The basis of being a Christian or following God is doing "his will" and not "our own" most people with the argument about religion or church, I feel just don't want to commit/submit to a standard.
Okay..to each their own! However, many speak to what they have been taught and or groomed to believe! One can, in fact believe in a higher power but do not submit to religion! Furthermore, with the many, written words of man over the years, how can one truly free themselves of what is real and what is fact unless they open their mind and believe in a god. Words typically have no say so on raw emotional connection!
Butta838 Bruh, those are typical excuses to not attend church. The bible tells us from the very heart of God for christians to keep our religion pure. These are just ashamed christians. Time to seek the actual truth.
“If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless. Religion that is pure and undefiled before God the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.” James 1:26-27 The issue isn’t religion, it’s men with evil intent twisting what was meant for good for his own gain. It’s like saying knives are evil. Knives in themselves can’t be evil because they don’t contain a conscience and morals. But a man can use a knife to commit evil against someone else. The knife doesn’t go to trial and get locked up, the main does.
Shakalaka Bombastic My brother obviously due to the adamant expressions written in these comments these perspectives are not based off just one 5 min snippet but a following down through the years and seeing how a person has changed, and seemingly drawing away from the faith.
After having a bible verse as his mission statement for his private label, Reach Records, having two albums called "Church Clothes", naming his rap group after Romans 1:16 and winning a Grammy for best gospel album, it's amazing how everyone immediately perceived he was a Christian Rapper, yet he has to go around doing "damage control" denying the Christianity element of his meteoric success. (Even TIP checks him 1:32) ruclips.net/video/XJ286o6ovN8/видео.html
The problem is people think Christianity will stifle/hold back your creativity, when in reality it enhances it. To not use certain words (Profanity and vanity) takes a whole other level of creativity, especially when it comes to rap. Gotta keep lecrae prayed up for his influence is too strong.
You’re right, and Lecrae has never said that he isn’t a Christian, or that being a Christian while making music would impede on his creativity. But labelling his music as “Christian Rap” would exclude a lot of people from getting to hear it because they would automatically assume it was going to be cheesy and lame. Like he said in the video. Lecrae has never denied being a Christian or a follower of God, he just doesn’t want his music to be put in a box, because then he wouldn’t be able to reach as many people as he does. And if you listen to his music, Lecrae has never used profanity or vanity in his music at all.
Josh Thomas and I agree! I admit I kinda jumped the gun, but was also careful not to direct it towards him, besides saying pray for him. I was more so talking to people who would read the title and automatically assume something along those lines. I agree, don’t put Christian rap in a box. God can do anything and use any part of any genre of anything to get his word across. Btw I love lecraes music, dude from the H like me. Thank you man
Profanity is equaling a preach/pastor with a mechanic. That's profanity but to use these words of English it's not our native tongue so if they can say there,their,they're and mean or impression a different thing surely I can say that satan is full of shit! Ya feel me! Jesus b with u. Just saying doe
This was me when I was lukewarm ... I felt so ashamed at heart when I would try to make excuses for the world because the Father wasn't pleased ... but thank God I headed to His heart and acknowledged my wrong. Now , I will tell the world what it really is to follow Jesus Christ and many will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. People , this is no time to fall back, it's time to follow Jesus all the way without looking back.
Believe it or not, Lecrae is a top 50 lyricist of all time. He made music about his life, which Christianity happens to be a part of. The reason he got so popular was because of his LYRICISM. There were millions of Christian rappers before Lecrae, but what made Lecrae popular was that he was actually a dope lyricist who made good music.
@@myjciskate4 I remember when Lecrae was performing in small churches using a laptop to start and spot his music no DJ, preaching between each track. Later add a DJ then a drummer. Later mega churches. I used to see several church vans bringing their youth to a Christian rap concert. If it wasn't for the church we wouldn't be talking about Lecrae today.
Madera Probably. My church used to listen to him a lot. People grow and change. Maybe Lecrae is an agnostic? Maybe he’s a deist? Who knows? Maybe he’s afraid of the backlash people might give to him and his family if comes out saying he’s left Christianity abruptly? When I left Christianity abruptly, I was treated absolutely horribly. Maybe Lecrae is just trying to gradually distance himself from Christianity. People can change perspectives. The point is, people like him regardless. Whether he started from a church is sort of irrelevant. Churches don’t really dictate the creative direction of artists.
I'm a Christian too I tell people but people tell me all the time they want to see people acting like it. They hear people say they are Christians and their actions don't show it. The people they speak of are people they know personally though.
Well, technically, you’re a business owner who has adhered to a Christian religious belief. How you operate that business shouldn’t necessarily be informed by your religious beliefs.
Quadry Holloman Chik Fila is a perfect example of why you shouldn’t let your religious beliefs effect your business. They still have to serve and hire homosexual members of the public. If they didn’t, they’d be out of business. And rightly so, because discriminating against homosexuals is just as bad and unethical as racism.
I miss ‘Gravity’ Lecrae, I’d rather remember him like that. Great example why we should put our hope in God and not public figures.. the rapper KB is a great representative of God however, so let’s pray for him as well as Lecrae to not fall in to darkness
Exactly he's "overtaken in a fault ye which are spiritual restore such an one in the spirit of meekness" we must intercede for one another. This man needs some TRUE HOLY GHOST FILLED BELIEVERS AROUND HIM TO TELL HIM THE DANGER HE'S IN! JESUS DOES NOT PLAY! My prayer is that CHRIST (if that's who he believes in) i know i do, sends him warning before destruction and grants him time to correct it!
I believe he is saying that because he wants people to understand that he does't make music excessively for christians. To Say you are a christian rapper implies that you only make music for Christians when the purpose of our gifts is to direct those who are lost to God. You can't reach the world preaching exclusively and speaking exclusively to christians.
Omg religion doesn't exist in heaven Jesus never said for us to be called Christians its not even biblical from his point of view. The word Christian comes from the island Antioch in the book of Acts. Can the church please educate ourselves before we get upset?
@@christophersolivio9544 You win the lost by glorifying God, Music brings a good feel, if you bring a good feel to bad, bad gets encouraged, if you bring a good feel to good, good gets encouraged, compromising does not win souls, it makes sinners to be comfortable in sin, the only fruits of compromise is money and spiritual death
Lecrae "made it" by claiming Christianity, and now he wants distance himself from it. That's why I rocked with him in the beginning, because of Church Clothes. Young Noah made a post about Lecrae on his IG page saying something along the lines of people are wrong for speaking about him being lukewarm (paraphrasing), that's the whole problem. He rarely speaks about Jesus in his lyrics. Anyone can talk about God. Go watch Tye Tribbet's recent video on the "industry." This man has compromised. You don't get to these type of levels without selling out. You either repping Jesus or you're not. And he need some real people in his circle to tell him he slipping. You either HOT OR COLD BRUH, GOD WILL SPIT YOU OUT. Then he has the audacity to mention Tupac and Scarface, cmon son.
EliteAthlete15 we ARE to judge but to do it righteously. Check out John 7:24 💕💕 and she is so right, Jesus would rather have a cold person than a lukewarm, I suggest you search that bible verse up and God bless💕💕🙏🏼
The same thing with me, I might never have listened to lecrae if not being a christian Rapper!!!!!! I still feel pained till today when i compare the @lecrae of REBEL, REHAB, AFTER THE MUSIC STOPS to what we have now!!!
This is the time to witness to him about Jesus instead of toning it down. Bizzle and Bryann Trejo Listen to them guys you’ll hear and see the difference.
Travis Anderson how you know He ain’t witness to him later during the interview or off camera? Cmon man use your head and be slower to judge for with the same standards you impose on others are the same that will be imposed on you. And don’t be hypocritical as if you are witnessing to every person you meet and telling them about Jesus. Did you tell your boss about Jesus when you saw him today Inc front of everybody on camera? Did you tell it to the cashier in the store in front of everybody on camera? Did you tell the homeless person about Jesus in front of everybody on camera? Stop being ridiculous.
The part where believers disagrees with Lecrae, is when he starts trying to act like secular artist made gospel songs, rather than shouting out those who really did gospel music like Cross Movement, etc... Scarface, Pac never represented Christ. So we can’t acknowledge any of their songs as gospel. 🤦🏾♂️
Lecrae, called out the people he want to identify with... he playing a game and want to be accepted but don’t wanna risk it like MALI music and then trying to come back and then people not following him no more so he don’t wanna make that mistake.
Pac once said “Got shot 5 times and I’m still breathing living proof there’s a God if you need a reason” Rappers have Christian lines but it gets stifled by the rest of the song and profanity
First off, Lacrae is coming from a worldly standpoint and is there to pacify TI. If he is a TRUE follower of Jesus Christ, then he would explain what the bible says about "religion" in the book of James, and let TI know all religion is NOT bad according to the bible. Also, he would make a clear distinction for TI, between the institutional church, and Jesus's church that he spoke on in the bible, but I know he didn't because he never does. He clearly wants what the world wants, accolades, awards, recognition, fortune, and fame PERIOD.
Nothing wrong with wanting to be at the top of your profession and the recognition that comes with it. Why do we associate wanting recognition, awards, and being the best with being un-Christian? I'm a journalist and Christian. If I aspire to be award-winning, well-paid, and recognized for my work is that being worldly?
That is not a balanced discussion.Lecrae should acknowledge he is a Christian rapper.Everyone has his own doubts and questions sometimes but the bottom line is the Truth .You can't beat the traditional religion/church to a pulp
But I think the distinction Lecrae is drawing is that no one calls other artists "Christian singer" or "Christian gospel artist" or "Christian choir". Lecrae doesn't want to be lumped into a genre of sound with "Christian Rappers" who will almost always misunderstand the purpose of rap as art. They attempt to create worship music and nothing else, even though rap is so versatile as a storyteller and a mode for confessions. Lecrae wants the freedom to make all kinds of music, even some songs without the mention of God (which is perfectly godly, just ask Esther and Ecclesiastes)
Lecrae changed my whole respective about the gospel. Growing up, I didn’t want to listen not one gospel song and always try to find ways to tune it out of my head. But Lecrae showed me its way more than that. May God Continues to bless him and his career
Compare this guy to Kanye, whom every black Christian questioned, saying, "I'm a Christian everything." And to think he had the nerve to do a sneak diss video.
So we just gonna ignore the fact the Grits made secular waves way before Crae did? Also Crae how are you gonna say that your not a Christian Rapper when your entire platform form 116 Clique was based on Biblical truth through the art of Hip-Hop? That's flaw bruh but keep dancing around the issue bruh it's gonna mess you up eventually.
Lecrae doesn't identify as a 'Christian Rapper' because he's not. Yes, the 116 platform is based on biblical truth but that doesn't necessarily mean that everyone in 116 is a 'Christian Rapper'. Lecrae is a rapper that makes music about his experiences and faith. Just like Post Malone makes music about relationships. Just like NF makes music for therapeutic reasons. Just like J Cole and Kendrick Lamar make music to tell deep stories with deeper thought. The list goes on. Lecrae is a dope rapper. You don't need 'Christian' tattooed on your forehead to know that you are 'Christian'.
@@davidhansen5455 we're Christian warriors therefore we are all Christians artist, teacher, when you do everything for God you are a Christian everything aka a follower of God on everything you do. Simple...his issue is he doesn't want people to reject his music. He doesn't want his music to only be in the Christian rapper side because it doesn't sale as much. His issue is greed, lust of eyes. Lust of flesh because it feels good. Look up the song "I shall not want" by Aubrey and it's as clear as it is. Pray for our breathen instead of making excuses for their backsliding confessions
Don't understand why Lecrae from a Christian home doing great for the Christian music community is distancing himself from being called a 'Christian rapper'
I'm a Christian and I get why people are straying from religion. People have done alot of messed up things in the name of religion. But those people aren't really religious those are called cults. Religious people scare people away from religion because they use it in a way to put themselves on a petastil. The problem with Christianity is people don't really read the Bible for themselves.They just hear what some Christians do and say and don't like it. If they did they would realize that it's not about religion it's about a relationship with Christ. Hope you guys will read and make up your OWN mind. God bless !!
Everyone should read for themselves and from they own relationship with God. But there is nothing wrong with fellowshipping with others who believe in God in one building, no matter how big or small. I am a Child of God. And I enjoy going to church. I just know that people in church including some ministers & pastors are not perfect humans. You can not judge & blame all churches on the thoughts and religious beliefs of others. I see church as a building to go to & praise God with others. So, even if I’m not in that building I can still praise God with like minded children of God, Christians. Read the word for yourself.
Everything you said I agree with. That was spot on. Us Christians are still humans. We will mess up. Sin I’m inevitable, everyone will sin in this lifetime. Getting to know Christ for yourself, and having your own relationship is the only way you get into the Kingdom of heaven. You can’t go off of what others do or say. Can it affect you sure but God calls every man and woman to “choose ye this day”. A lot of craziness has happened in the name of religion Christ or not. It’s still up to you on the individual level to figure out and read about who this Christ is in the Bible. He didn’t come to make people perfect. He came to redeem us back unto the father. It’s sad because you see people who don’t believe in Christ just waiting on Christians to fail and they point out their sins and failures. When the scriptures clearly talks about not comparing yourself to someone else. It’s sad but that’s the state of the world today.
I don't agree. Wars that killed millions of people were fought in the name of religion. Scriptures are interpreted differently depending on who you talk to or which church you attend. Large parts of the Bible were removed because it did not aid a motive of certain kings and others in power. Religion is just a tool used by those in power.
@@joshuamusau8601 That's different from the gospel my friend. Rapping about the gospel is giving people the good news about the love of Jesus Christ. I remember scars songs very clearly. Asking for forgiveness is a great thing it's called repentance.
🤦🏽♂️ This is where I see no backbone when it comes to the gospel of Jesus Christ. First of all labeling all churches like religion has nothing to do with the other. Religion is religion and church is church and Lecrae always has a chance to defend the gospel, but would rather throw at the church.
To anyone that has ever suggested "religous music'' to someone 😒 Me: I'm a fan of lecrae. he has a few good songs. Them: he's a christian rapper. i don't listen to that kind of stuff. you a bible thumper? Me: no them: but you listen to church music Me: yeah. i listen to a lot of stuff them: no thanks. Me: ok..... 🙄 so this is cool: "Bitch, don't play with me Oh that's your man? I'll take your man! Now he mines, haha Yeah, hoe! I'll take your man" them: oh no, I don't really listen to the lyrics like that. I just listen to the beat. me: so if he rapped over that beat you'd be fine with it? *beings to plays freestyles lecrae did over various popular rap beats* them: nah I don't really like what he's saying though. i'm not into religion like that. me: I though u just listened to the beat though? 🤔 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄so beats can be religious now? If you don't like certain kinds of music, fine. but don't lie about the reasoning. It's funny people magically hear lyrics when it's something they don't like but only hear the beat on songs they do like.
Lecrae’s music is his expression. He Christian, a man, human, husband, etc. by sharing it, he lets us see where we may connect to him in words that we just didn’t have the words to express. No person can be only Christian but we can be rooted in our faith in God
No because it creates a stereotype for sound. When you hear Christian music, you might think that it should sound a certain way or it sounds corny. Doing so would compromise a person's creativity and it's like placing God in a box.
Is it Gospel Rap? So he speaks about all subjects in his music? Is he a rapper with ”Christian” as the label? What? To me, he is a Christian Artist who makes music. So he is a rapper with Christian as a wrapper. He is getting us all wrapped up in this conversation.
lol Idk where you heard that, that’s definitely not what I heard. He’s not tryna put religion into people’s minds, that’s basically it (which is great btw)
@@pressurewashingwithkoolfel9738 Just so you know: If you say "I didn't know who the right God was" when you stand before the Lord and have to give an account for your life, that excuse isn't going to fly with Him. You cannot make up your own god and expect to enter Heaven. God is Holy. He must punish sin and there is only ONE way to be saved.
TI: “talk about your spiritual transformation “ LecrAe: “well I grew up in a legalistic...” (T.i interrupts and makes it about his opinion) T.I: “yeah God is real , religion is fake.... put in place by the powers that be to control “ Dude ... shut up ... u talk like you know bout it , but you don’t be about it. Your not a Christian , so don’t talk like you know About Christianity . Always using the examples of those who abuse the truth as the example for Christianity.
T.I "God is not religion" Bible: James 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
What is the ORIGINAL definition for religion? What was the Greek word for religious being used in James 1:26 (the New Testament was not written in English, but mostly Greek ) What was the ORIGINAL MEANING OF THE GREEK WORD BEING USED FOR RELIGIOUS IN JAMES 1:26
The difference is Lecrae is talking about organized religion, when someone is somehow either profiting or gaining power from their brothers and sisters. He doesn't believe in the power of the higher ups in the modern Catholic Church. Stuff like that. But I think he does believe in community, in giving alms, and so much more. He doesn't classify it as "religion" because "religion" is now synonymous with race, gender, and social class. T.I. thinks Lecrae means that he believes in worshiping a God without sharing truths, and without having a community. T.I. assumes Lecrae just wants to have a Christian faith with himself. This video clip is evidence of a huge misunderstanding between both of them. Kind of a shame really because Lecrae makes great points he just messed up some semantics here and there
Used to be his fan... and he real one of the first artists to push me into CHH and that helped my faith a lot. Since he started pushing this 'I am not a Christian rapper' narrative he lost me.
I agree, him saying I am not a Christian rapper is saddening, but I will say there are a lot of Christian's who claim the know Jesus and they are a Christian, the interesting thing is a lot of people who do that never dive deeper into the Bible, religion can be the kickstart to faith or the downfall. I believe that I do not have a religion but a relationship, I know Jesus died and he rose again and I believe he died for our sin, but some people who claim to be Christian's I disagree with. But at the end of the day I am called to be more like Christ and then love others like Christ loved
He lost me with his latest hit. It has the N-word being played on gospel stations all day long. They don't even play that on general hip hop stations. I'm upset with the stations for bot blocking it but he could have EASILY said brother/a. Things will come but woe from whom they come. Congrats to being the first "Christian rapper" to have the Nword said on national radio in your song.
@@premierproperties240 well technically, the lyric was, "all that bitterness and anger had to let it go". But it does sound so much like that which kinda sucks but ya know 🤷
I'm glad Tip did this interview. It shows a lot of range. Lecrae's music is so inspiring and uplifting while also being music you can beat in your car.
I don’t think so. Unfortunately he didn’t get a chance to explain himself in that clip. I like Tip but he love to talk and taking over conversations with his own views. In reality he needs a podcast where he interviews himself only.
Here's the thing with Lecrae he goes on and on since dropping Church Clothes vol 1 in 2012 trying to distance himself from being a Christian rapper going on talking about he spiritual-but-not-religious or he doesn't ascribe to a religion however this man is a member of a church, this man believes the Holy Bible is the word of God, not a book about God, or someone's perspective about God, but is the very literal word of God. This man believes Jesus Christ is God the Son, God incarnate In the Flesh, not just a good moral teacher, or leader to pattern our lives after, but he literally believes that the faith in the life, death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven. At any of his concerts there's always a Time where there is an offering if you will to go towards World Vision a Evangelical Christian charity group. He doesn't drink alcohol, smoke, cuss, etc.. not because it's a personal choice but because it's his firm conviction that those things are not in agreement with the Holy Bible which again he believes is the literal word of God. Therefore every time this dude tries to separate himself from the Christian religion he's doing a disservice to two group's... Christians who've supported him and continue to support him even with his deviation from being as open about his religion, and then the non-religious secular group because he's just making it out as if he just about positivity, unity, etc.. etc.. either way it doesn't personally affect me the man's actions have no effect on my life in the way I choose to live it, but it's easy to see the dude just plays both sides of the fences because he knows if he completely turned his back on the Christian group he realizes that's where the majority of his Fame and Fortune comes from and if he distance himself from the secular world then he'll just be looked at as another one of them holier-than-thou religious nuts. I honestly feel bad for the dude, it's got to be hard walking the line, instead of just being and doing what you want to do. If you want to be Christian and promote Jesus then do it more power to you, you want to just be rapping and making your paper doing it for the culture then do it, more power to you. Just quit playing both sides man! people on both sides of the fence really look at you suspect, and no one really respects you, you're just a token to the one, and credibility to the other, and who's who really just depends on what time of the day it is.
He's just tired of Christians attacking him. People saying he's trying to be more like the world than for God because of his style of music. He said it alot when he was talking about losing his religion. I think it's wrong what he's doing but I feel like he's just kinda tired of the chriticism.
@@davidlawrence8051 Well, Lecrae is weak and can't handle the pressure of being a Christian. So-called Christians have attacked me for standing on the word of God and for other reasons too. We should expect persecution from others when we boldly worship and serve Christ.
@@blacknmild I agree but I don't think it's up to us to judge him. You personally haven't had his spotlight and don't know what it's like to be him. So yes he wasn't strong enough to handle his pressure but you've never had his pressure so please leave the judgement to the one above and out of your heart.
Gotta disagree. I actually listened to the podcast he really went in and shared his faith. He also said he no longer cares what people call him. Lots of growth. Also I think everyone wants him to be what they want. I feel like he’s not straddling he’s being himself. He IS Christian. He IS hip hop. Nobody else has done what he’s done or been where he’s been. What other Gospel rappers is TI interviewing? I don’t think he wants clout I think he just wants to be himself but church folks say he’s fake cause he won’t take on the labels. I respect his hustle. I don’t know anyone else that when you bring up the name gospel rap to the outside world they can name anyone but him.
On Friday, he spoke at the memorial for a great Theologian Ravi Zacharias. He said how he performs on stage then runs back to the bus to listen to theology debates. He take Dr. Ravi for teaching him theology and many other praises on the Dr. Zacharias then performs a song that he dedicated the performance to him... He started his speech by saying he wasn’t a believer but now he is... find that and balance that with what he’s saying here and the image he’s trying to portray
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. James 1:27 KJV
How is underrated with multiple Grammy awards. He the most popular Christian hip hop personality. Multiple breakfast club appearances and now this one. How much more acclaim can he get??
Love Lecrae, I think he is one the dopest artists of our generation. But when it comes to the Christian Rappper box embrace my G, ain't nothing to be ashamed about it because that what you are and you do it exceptionally well.. In the words of Kanye I'm a Christian everything.
I don’t think he ever said he was ashamed of being labeled a Christian rapper , he just doesn’t like the box that it puts him in and feels like it will automatically cause people to assume things about him and his music that aren’t necessarily true.
Nf put it like this , when you have a carpenter to fix something etc. Do you refer to him as a Christian Carpenter Christian artist Christian manager Or a carpenter who is a christian (I probably couldve explain it better but I think you get me)
I agree with you. I feel like he don’t wanna really rap about Jesus though. He is still trying to please the world, rather to be pleasing to God as it says so in the bible. Atleast thats what it looks like to me
@@chosenonekay dont think it's really that. The Christian rapper box is career limiting in his eyes. Lecrae wants air play on regular radio alongside whatever is in the mainstream charts. What's sad is that artists want a foot in while someone like Kanye who reached the pinnacle in mainstream success wants out. somewhere Christian artists have to realise commercial appeal ain't worth it. a strong identity is more valuable.
@@jpanderson8949 Chic Fil a is Christian business closes on Sunday etc. It's a commercial enterprise with undeniable Christian roots. What Lecrae is giving as an example is secular artists who rap about God every once in a while however the basis of their career is secular. I feel he is more of a Chic Fil a than a Popeye's. However he would rather be viewed as a Popeye's just because he sells "chicken".
@@planorban no he didn't he said together 14 years, but TI asked how long has he been married married and he didn't give a straight answer, I'm guessing he wasn't sure. It's strange how TI asked how long... and he gave a longggg answer that still wasn't clear.
bizzle, andy mineo, kb, trip lee, flame, sho baraka, datin, WLAK, viktory, da truth...i could really list like 50. even a secular artist like will smith doesn't curse and he has plenty of hits
First let me say this, I always hear people try to credit Lacrea with Being THE pioneer of Gospel rap and he had a role bringing it more into light but that's not entirely true. I cannot talk about the start of truth Muzic unless we go way back to the 90's. There was a group of 3 ex gang members that found JESUS, and simply called themselves GOSPEL GANGSTERS and they were very popular and did collaborations with some very big names, and Muzic waz dope. Nobody gives them credit cause nobody knows how far back truth music goes. 2cd, I really like lacrea but this whole I'm not a christian rapper stance sounds like straddle the fence type stance and to me a waste of time. This my stance. I LOVE GOD MORE THAN ANYTHING IN THIS WORLD AND DON'T CARE WHAT YOU.THINK ABOUT IT. Thirdly, I don't think t.i. is the right choice of interviewer for this type artist or subject, and I like t.i.
I’ve been a die hard Lecrae fan since I was 14 From Rehab to All Things Work Together I love Lecrae and everyone knows. Seems to me tho that he’s always compromising the faith whenever he is with people who don’t exactly fall in the Christian sect of people. He does this and comes back and Sir please stop it Take you stand Much Love Sir #116unashamed ❤️
I remember when he got a grammy no one was really cheering him on. It's like they didn't know who he was or something. It just shows you how fake people are. They don't care about you until your gone.
Lecrae just continuously treats the CHH community like the his little brother who he hates being forced to take with him around the cool kids. He’s so consistently ashamed of us and anything traditionally Christian. He always goes out of his way to highlight his “Worldly” resume and then downplays all of us when we’ve been the one buying all his albums and supporting him his whole career
Since Lecrae Doesn't Consider himself A Christian Rapper, Why Did he Accept Music Awards In The Christian And Gospel Categories Category From Both Secular And Christian Awards Shows Organization? Since he Isn't A Christian Rapper, he Should Give Those Awards Back. Just Chill In Christ, Kyle Manning
I’ve listened to Lecrae for a long time, at least a couple of years and he is definitely a Christian rapper! He raps in 116. With Trip Lee, Tedashii, and Andy Mineo, and lots of other people!
The thing about religion is that it isn't necessarily bad, the book of James says that 'pure religion' is taking care of the widow and orphans, and to keep ones self from being tainted by this world
Lecrae should have run with that label..it was not going to stop his music from affecting culture and to be honest it would garner more support from his fan base.#Rebel2
TIP where is the full interview or podcast? I like what you're doing thanks for the example bro with the music business and being a family man...BIG UPS
Wait isn’t his purpose in making music for Christ....I mean that’s what Christian artist do am I right? Hip Hop rappers make worldly music, i mean anyone can correct me if I’m wrong In my opinion if God would of gave me the talent to rhyme I would be doing it to glorify the body at all times. And not just say one or two things about the walk or mention the name Jesus in a song and thing that’s good or cool I don’t think God will be pleased if you use the talent He gave you for anything else that’s wrong plus calling yourself a CHRISTIAN RAPPER WHATS WRONG WITH THAT? To me it sound like he being ashamed to be called a Christian rapper, own it bro God gave you the gift. But you know how many Christians/Believers are today they wanna be doing things like having bible studies without the Bible, having bible studies with spiritual books, they want to have one foot in and one foot out, we can not have it both ways and the irony is 116 is to rep Romans 1:16 if you not ashamed of the gospel put more gospel in your music, rep Christ in calling yourself a Christian rapper, well that’s if your doing it for Him just saying...as one who is ready to go, I have nothing, I am nothing without Christ I’m Christian everything...I’m the Praying Barber idk what the world thing, God gifted my hands to cut hair I rep Him...well that’s just my two cents...to each their own 🤷🏻♂️ I just pray that He changes that thought frame, to me I wouldn’t care what you titled me as long as the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is getting the glory and honor for my music!
EliteAthlete15 my question to you is if you were in his shoes would you take his stance or would you call yourself a Christian rapper? And yes we do have to proclaim Christ 24/7, do a study on the word proclaim...I will come and proclaim your mighty acts, Sovereign Lord; I will proclaim your righteous deeds, yours alone Ps. 71:16 last time I check living a surrendered life to Christ it’s all about Him, Luke 9:23 Then He said to them all: whosoever wants to be my disciples must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me. It’s all about Him not me that’s why I personally would title myself as a Christian rapper we are to stand out, bible tells us to be a peculiar people, we are in the world but not of this world. 24/7 bro 24/7 He died for us why short change the Lord
@@613realist Lecrae said he was a christian in this 5 minute clip & yet you're stuck on him not wanting to be labeled as a Christian rapper. What's Christ like about you judging him for that when he never denied Christ? All I'm seeing is a whole lot of judgemental & hypocritical saved folks nitpick a label when other christian artists have the same view as not wanting to use that label (NF, Switchfoot & TFK). Jesus came for the sick, the lost & the hurting. You're found in Christ, great & Jesus belongs to everyone. So if taking the label off of a PROFESSION draws more ppl in to how he lives his life while following Jesus, why are you so against that? Who you are & what you do are not the same thing. If it doesn't why isn't he a labeled as a black christian rapper, or a man, husband, brother, father, friend, black christian rapper or anyone else for that matter? Using any label in your PROFESSION doesn't make someone more or less of all the things they are.
I think TI and Lecrae have very different understandings of the term “organized religion”. Like, Lecrae affirms that Christ is the Son of God and that the Bible is the Word of God. Christ is the Way, the Truth, the Life and the only way to the Father. Not sure that’s what TI affirms
Amen, and that’s where the confusion lies because Lecrae did not do anything to correct him. That’s definitely a problem for me. So my question is what is Lecrae’s mission here?
Paula Wilson I see your quick to judge off a 5 min snippet w/ out the whole context. Glad I don’t know you in real life. Especially if you look to correct people within 5 min of talking. That would be irritating. Especially if your not trying to ask me questions in a lengthy conversation.
I love Lacrae and play his music everyday to inspire me. I'm glad my Christian friends turned me on to his progressive rap. Him and Derek Minor speaks to me and my community.
Lecrea is not being honest he made out like he has always been stating that he is a rapper who happens to be a Christian and not a gospel rapper. He switched to that as he made his move to become popular in the secular worldly rap industry a few years back. Previously he was a Christ exclusive rapper with strictly Christian/Biblical/Gospel content. I'm not judging him but it's like these guys use the church market place in order to springboard to where they really want to go, then when they get the opening they start marketing themselves as Christian doing secular music then they start doing collabs with the unsaved. If I can remember rightly Lecrea started out with Cross Movements, it doesn't get more in your face gospel rap than that. I think Cross movements were one of the the first ground breaking evangelistic gospel rap groups out there.
@Michael Williams saved as in non believer. The bible says believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved. So the true believer can confidently say they are saved.... saved from thier sins which is what Jesus came to do. I can pull up the bible verses if you like 🙂😀
I have never heard any Lecrae where he doesn't rap about other issues alongside God tho, but I may not go back far enough to know what you mean? The thing is, contemporary christian music is rarely viewed on the same level of artistry as other genres. And I think it is partly because it tends to be much more insular and narrow in both focus and sound, when compared with Lecrae. I can understand why he wants/deserves to be respected as a rapper, rather than pidgeon-holed as 'christian-rap'. And as with Zaytoven, he probably does more to spread good messages and build bridges by NOT identifying as strictly for the church. I was raised in the church, and also left...it was too limiting for where I wanted/needed to go. But respect to those who hold it down authentically, and with justice for all people.
When you try so hard to be a part of the world that you forgot that your in it but not of it! Lecrae needs to really examine his true motives. And see if what he’s doing is really for the glory of Christ. I don’t think so 😔
Ok that what any lukewarm Christian would say! You say you profess the Lord but you love the things he hates! Where is your discernment? No lacrae and those who vouch for him are lukewarm Christians! It’s called “go along to get along”. See people like you who say “I” don’t understand Kill me because it’s like you don’t even take time to actually understand , you simply tell people that their confused because we are brave enuff to call you fake Christians out! But ok I don’t understand !
Tj Edwards bruh you trippin. Your being condescending. Gentleness is a fruit of the Spirit. If he’s fake then I’m calling you out for being fake too bc clearly you are not under the influence of the Holy Spirit. You sound like the same religious leaders Jesus rebuked and condemned in the gospels for trying to preach and teach and yet didn’t even know the savior nor did they grasp his teachings of love and his messianic position.
It's all about relationship and whatever you feed the most is the dominate one..For Christ I live and for Christ I die... Let's not fool yourself my brother...
I miss the Lecrae I knew years ago. That was dope. I am not a good person to criticize or what... but he used to be such a massive encouragement. comeon man. the heck happened to "..if you ain' heard the truth today, I promise we ll be back tomorrow..", ".. kill me if I don't preach the gospel ... am already dead forget ma flesh", "see your money your singleness talent your time, they were loaned to you to show the world Christ is divine". I loved him so much, all these lyrics and a lot more in my head.
At the end of the day the mark of the beast will be implemented soon. So will know who are truly god's children. We will see ppl choosing between career,music etc
I had to revisit this interview. 22 years independent myself. I get what Lecrae is talking about. If you know you know. If you don't then ok. Salute - King J. Pyr🔥.
Big fan of his, but his music predominantly is gospel centered, and he says this whole “I rap real stuff...” but most his music his rapping about Christ and how god this and the devil this or whatever ... it’s only over maybe the past 7-8 years where his music hasn’t been gospel centered but him just rapping about various subjects without referencing god and various books of the Bible. However if you listen to anything before gravity it’s laced with bible verses and etc Jesus this or that explicitly. This is why is fan base and been fractured because when he started saying he wasn’t a Christian rapper his music stopped talking about Jesus and the gospel as much. As for me I still rock with most his music Lecrae on his first album calls other Christian rappers out for it being more about them than Jesus only for all these years later for him to basically do the same.
He also was a new Christian when he first started making music hence why he states his songs contained lots of scripture references and things like that because he was still learning a lot about his faith. Also he still had songs early on like “Praying For You” that were relatable and real. But at the end of the day God is real and his book explains a lot
He's not doing the same thing that he called other Christians rappers doing in his 1st album. It's a different transformation when you start out as a Christian and when you go further in your journey because even his last few albums after Gravity he still has God in his music. Putting scriptures in your music doesn't make you a Christian rapper nor should it matter. How you rep the Lord is gonna be different from other people
I'm a man of christ but do not conform or fit to any organization. I will never impose my views on the next man but know this, any one not using christ as the way is painting a false view & might be tricking you to follow into something more sinister. My point is listen to what people preach & really listen to what they are not saying. God bless to everyone scantless.com
Lecrae just got what he was aiming for... Which is the recognition of the people. When we take to heart people's opinions and views, we begin to try to please people, instead of pursuing our passions. The biggest problem most people have with lecrae, is that what he use to warn others to stay away from, he has become that. That in itself would confuse anybody, especially if there is no clear cut explaination. We can say that we have evolved in a certain understanding, but at least explain it. Because if there is no real explaination to it, then it's just straight hypocrisy.
Yall are trippin because of semantics. He's a Christian period. Get off your high horse, brain washed self and love the brother for what he says he is a Christian. AMEN!
Bro please don't be deceived. In God's bible it tells us don't put your trust in man. The Lord Jesus also tells us some people can be wolves in sheep's clothing???
Naw bruh, he is not a Christian anymore. He honors God with his lips and not with his heart. I'm judging by what he has been consistently saying and lacrae has absolutely no conviction anymore. This is what happens when you try and merge the worlds veiw with the body of Christ.
Why is it every time Yall want Lecrae to get on a show and demand he states everything he believes and then debate it ....do you hold your self to that same standard ? I highly doubt it ...I'm not defending him...but y'all need to live it ...and stop judging others to do that which you ain't willing to do yourselves ......
Lecrae please just be yourself bro... There's nothing corny about Christ.
I think he meant it as a whole when you think of Christian music, from the "corny" aspect of it. (Then again idk*)
Unfortunately I believe he is being himself a lot of Christian artist have sold out
He says this so that when some presents his music to someone of the world they don’t see the “label christian rapper” and think of Corny rap. Trust me if he wasn’t himself he’d be doing the things of the world. Plus as a Christian were called to save the lost. He has never changed he’s been the same guy since day one. A lot of people over look this and think he has sold out or changed. I promise you he hasn’t you would see such a big difference. Bless up.
@@dravenparra435 I see where u may be coming from but the word says friendship of the world is enmity with God and when you got a platform and afraid to say the name of Jesus Christ and afraid to speak on hard issues you are doing just that but we all need salvation it's not to condemn him or his followers it's just the truth kanye is apart of the converging church as well with that olstien gospel
@@dravenparra435 seen the whole thing and him preach my mind has changed he is growing
To each there own, however I would rather be labeled a Christian Rapper any day of the week cause I always try and put Christ first. I personally don't think the label held Lecrae back at all, however did cause a lot of conflict throughout the genre when it became a topic..... I say stick with Jesus Muzik.... AMEN!
Amen. We should put Christ first.
Amen For With God Nothing Shall Be Impossible
Amen thank u for saying it these guys put out too much music where you dont have a clue what their message is
Christian Hip Hop “rather be labeled a Christian rapper” and always putting Christ first has no correlation. Sounds like you have some more growing to do. Some people praise God w/ their lips but their hearts are far from him. Things you say matter but not more than the life you live.
@@terrycrews1760 More growing huhhh - I guess when one expresses their opinion and it is not yours that means your grown and their not? I can't even debate logic like that. God Bless you Shakalaka and thank you for your opinion...
Mannnn I don’t understand - why would you say unashamed and you be ashamed to be labeled a Christian rapper - the majority of your fan base Christian people buy your music -- you came up with a mission statement now you changed your mission statement - bro this was the time to speak boldly about your faith and show this man you are truly a follower of Christ in every area -- As for me and mine we shall serve the lord - #carryon #liveandgrow
Hey Kingdom Muzic Bryann T, Antwoine Hill,Monica Hill etc... You need to pay close attention or as the Word of GOD instructs be Vigilant because the Devil as a roaring Lion seeking whom to devour, the Most High can give any of us over to a reprobate mind if we are not careful. I've followed you since I became born again in August 2014 and there was a Humble, humility side to you guys, but now all I see is Vanity!! Any chance to get in front of the camara I see you take it and it seems like let me show off my new Gear and Kiks (Street image). You probably don't realize that there are People in the streets dying for these vain things. We all Have been Deceived into this False Comfortable, Christianity that is opposite of the True Gospel. Please do not take this as hating but IN YESHUA'S Love!! Please Come back to the Humble, Holy Spirit Filled, Less of Me (Image) and More of JESUS Before you end up reprobate like Lecrae. And I know there is still Plenty of Mercy and Grace from the Heavenly Father for him to come back as long as he is still breathing and We Hope and Pray you all do. Love you but Most importantly YESHUA the Messiah Loves us and wants us to awaken from our Slumber (comfortably) 🙏🏽🙏🏽
@@MrEsco732 homie you are legalistic I pray God heals your hardened heart.
@@MrEsco732 Amen brother 🌱
@@MrEsco732Reason I don't even think Christian "rap" is of God. Rap within it's self seems to give off a narcissistic freshly spirit.
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For whoever is ashamed of Me and My
words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will also be ashamed of him when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels." (Mark 8:38, NASB)
They ain’t ready for the scrips tho . Truth hittin’ too hard. But nobody would listen to Jeremiah and Hosea either
Hes.not.ducking and dodging "christianity, " if thats what you're getting at...open your eyes young whipper snapper
Phanatik82 ummm the dudes record label is 116 based on Romans 1:16. Kind of hard to call him ashamed. Matthew 7:1-2. Look it up. See how easy it is to quote scripture and apply it to you? We could do this all day.
Exact scripture I was thinking about smh
It’s easy to say God is real and religion is fake when you do not won’t to be accountable to either. ( that’s just my opinion)
The definition for religion is the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. so if you believe in god how is it possible not to believe in religion that’s the action you are taking if you worship god
I believe in God. I'm Catholic but I have absolutely no belief in the Catholic church. As what they teach they do not follow. Just look at the hurt and pain they have caused Ireland. 🇮🇪🇵🇸
Mann you on to something. The basis of being a Christian or following God is doing "his will" and not "our own" most people with the argument about religion or church, I feel just don't want to commit/submit to a standard.
Okay..to each their own!
However, many speak to what they have been taught and or groomed to believe! One can, in fact believe in a higher power but do not submit to religion! Furthermore, with the many, written words of man over the years, how can one truly free themselves of what is real and what is fact unless they open their mind and believe in a god. Words typically have no say so on raw emotional connection!
Butta838 Bruh, those are typical excuses to not attend church. The bible tells us from the very heart of God for christians to keep our religion pure. These are just ashamed christians. Time to seek the actual truth.
“If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless. Religion that is pure and undefiled before God the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.”
James 1:26-27
The issue isn’t religion, it’s men with evil intent twisting what was meant for good for his own gain. It’s like saying knives are evil. Knives in themselves can’t be evil because they don’t contain a conscience and morals. But a man can use a knife to commit evil against someone else. The knife doesn’t go to trial and get locked up, the main does.
Truthh
It’s literally as simple as that
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This i can agree on
Interesting. For clarity, because I may share this, you believe Crae is the man with evil intent?
One of the biggest problems is that what Lecrae means and what TI means ain’t the same thing and nobody is going to address that.
Bruh exactly!! Perception is everything and clarity is needed.
Jimmy Mor so guess we gon jump to conclusions with only a 5 min snippet? I guess you hear Bible preached out of context and run w/ that too.
Tip literally don’t know the difference, Crae chooses not to address it. Doesn’t matter if comment section does.
Shakalaka Bombastic My brother obviously due to the adamant expressions written in these comments these perspectives are not based off just one 5 min snippet but a following down through the years and seeing how a person has changed, and seemingly drawing away from the faith.
People have been following Lecrae for much longer than this short video. He's the black version of Lauren Dagle (or whatever her last name is).
After having a bible verse as his mission statement for his private label, Reach Records, having two albums called "Church Clothes", naming his rap group after Romans 1:16 and winning a Grammy for best gospel album, it's amazing how everyone immediately perceived he was a Christian Rapper, yet he has to go around doing "damage control" denying the Christianity element of his meteoric success. (Even TIP checks him 1:32)
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The problem is people think Christianity will stifle/hold back your creativity, when in reality it enhances it. To not use certain words (Profanity and vanity) takes a whole other level of creativity, especially when it comes to rap. Gotta keep lecrae prayed up for his influence is too strong.
You’re right, and Lecrae has never said that he isn’t a Christian, or that being a Christian while making music would impede on his creativity. But labelling his music as “Christian Rap” would exclude a lot of people from getting to hear it because they would automatically assume it was going to be cheesy and lame. Like he said in the video. Lecrae has never denied being a Christian or a follower of God, he just doesn’t want his music to be put in a box, because then he wouldn’t be able to reach as many people as he does. And if you listen to his music, Lecrae has never used profanity or vanity in his music at all.
He does it sooo well 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽 legend
Josh Thomas and I agree! I admit I kinda jumped the gun, but was also careful not to direct it towards him, besides saying pray for him. I was more so talking to people who would read the title and automatically assume something along those lines. I agree, don’t put Christian rap in a box. God can do anything and use any part of any genre of anything to get his word across. Btw I love lecraes music, dude from the H like me. Thank you man
Yes Most definitely @Godvibesonly
Profanity is equaling a preach/pastor with a mechanic. That's profanity but to use these words of English it's not our native tongue so if they can say there,their,they're and mean or impression a different thing surely I can say that satan is full of shit! Ya feel me! Jesus b with u. Just saying doe
This was me when I was lukewarm ... I felt so ashamed at heart when I would try to make excuses for the world because the Father wasn't pleased ... but thank God I headed to His heart and acknowledged my wrong. Now , I will tell the world what it really is to follow Jesus Christ and many will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. People , this is no time to fall back, it's time to follow Jesus all the way without looking back.
Amen 🔥 I Hope two years passed you are still following Jesus with the same hearth
May the lord continue to bless and protect in Jesus name I pray!
Few will find it
They lips say they love God but their hearts are far from him🤷♀️
Forst of all watch full podcast. He correct ti and gave him the gosphel
You dont know his heart & his real relationship with god
We don’t but we can clearly see it in his works and his reflection in his life
Lecrae stop trying to deny why people paid attention to you in the first place
Believe it or not, Lecrae is a top 50 lyricist of all time. He made music about his life, which Christianity happens to be a part of. The reason he got so popular was because of his LYRICISM. There were millions of Christian rappers before Lecrae, but what made Lecrae popular was that he was actually a dope lyricist who made good music.
@@myjciskate4 I understand what you're saying but I'm from Nigeria and we all know him first of all as a Christian rapper not as a lyricist
@@myjciskate4 I remember when Lecrae was performing in small churches using a laptop to start and spot his music no DJ, preaching between each track. Later add a DJ then a drummer. Later mega churches. I used to see several church vans bringing their youth to a Christian rap concert. If it wasn't for the church we wouldn't be talking about Lecrae today.
Madera Probably. My church used to listen to him a lot. People grow and change. Maybe Lecrae is an agnostic? Maybe he’s a deist? Who knows? Maybe he’s afraid of the backlash people might give to him and his family if comes out saying he’s left Christianity abruptly? When I left Christianity abruptly, I was treated absolutely horribly. Maybe Lecrae is just trying to gradually distance himself from Christianity. People can change perspectives. The point is, people like him regardless. Whether he started from a church is sort of irrelevant. Churches don’t really dictate the creative direction of artists.
Jodizzyfilms Cool.
I own a business and I’m a Christian therefore I’m a Christian business owner...simple as that Lecrae.
I'm a Christian too I tell people but people tell me all the time they want to see people acting like it. They hear people say they are Christians and their actions don't show it. The people they speak of are people they know personally though.
Well, technically, you’re a business owner who has adhered to a Christian religious belief. How you operate that business shouldn’t necessarily be informed by your religious beliefs.
@@myjciskate4 you've obviously never heard of Chick-fil-A?
Quadry Holloman Chik Fila is a perfect example of why you shouldn’t let your religious beliefs effect your business. They still have to serve and hire homosexual members of the public. If they didn’t, they’d be out of business. And rightly so, because discriminating against homosexuals is just as bad and unethical as racism.
@@myjciskate4 homosexual is not the ultimate sin though we still have to love them despite disagreeing with their life choice
I miss ‘Gravity’ Lecrae, I’d rather remember him like that. Great example why we should put our hope in God and not public figures.. the rapper KB is a great representative of God however, so let’s pray for him as well as Lecrae to not fall in to darkness
Kindaaaaa, agree
After the gravity album his music don't hit the same from his first album till gravity was great ones
God bless you
Exactly he's "overtaken in a fault ye which are spiritual restore such an one in the spirit of meekness" we must intercede for one another. This man needs some TRUE HOLY GHOST FILLED BELIEVERS AROUND HIM TO TELL HIM THE DANGER HE'S IN! JESUS DOES NOT PLAY! My prayer is that CHRIST (if that's who he believes in) i know i do, sends him warning before destruction and grants him time to correct it!
I miss it too! The passion he poured out in gravity is a big part of why I took a step to trust in God and pray for salvation.
If he's not a Christian rapper then stop straddling the fence in your music..You can't glorify God and the world..
I believe he is saying that because he wants people to understand that he does't make music excessively for christians. To Say you are a christian rapper implies that you only make music for Christians when the purpose of our gifts is to direct those who are lost to God. You can't reach the world preaching exclusively and speaking exclusively to christians.
@@civilmusicconnect9969 I understand what you're saying;but,he's glorifying the world while preaching the gospel..
@@pussyasstraedatruth1975 I'm confused? How is he glorifying the world?
Omg religion doesn't exist in heaven Jesus never said for us to be called Christians its not even biblical from his point of view. The word Christian comes from the island Antioch in the book of Acts. Can the church please educate ourselves before we get upset?
@@christophersolivio9544 You win the lost by glorifying God, Music brings a good feel, if you bring a good feel to bad, bad gets encouraged, if you bring a good feel to good, good gets encouraged, compromising does not win souls, it makes sinners to be comfortable in sin, the only fruits of compromise is money and spiritual death
Lecrae "made it" by claiming Christianity, and now he wants distance himself from it. That's why I rocked with him in the beginning, because of Church Clothes.
Young Noah made a post about Lecrae on his IG page saying something along the lines of people are wrong for speaking about him being lukewarm (paraphrasing), that's the whole problem. He rarely speaks about Jesus in his lyrics. Anyone can talk about God. Go watch Tye Tribbet's recent video on the "industry."
This man has compromised. You don't get to these type of levels without selling out. You either repping Jesus or you're not. And he need some real people in his circle to tell him he slipping. You either HOT OR COLD BRUH, GOD WILL SPIT YOU OUT. Then he has the audacity to mention Tupac and Scarface, cmon son.
EliteAthlete15 we ARE to judge but to do it righteously. Check out John 7:24 💕💕 and she is so right, Jesus would rather have a cold person than a lukewarm, I suggest you search that bible verse up and God bless💕💕🙏🏼
YESSSSSS AMEN!!!!🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
The same thing with me, I might never have listened to lecrae if not being a christian Rapper!!!!!!
I still feel pained till today when i compare the @lecrae of REBEL, REHAB, AFTER THE MUSIC STOPS to what we have now!!!
I wonder if you actually heard what he had to say in this video
He has no real people around him that call him on his mess. He so wrong but think he so right.
Example about what it means to be a lukewarm Christian
FACTS
Better run before the "Don't judge him!" crowd jumps in.
Saying
💯💯
sukka 1P57 😅 Dont worry I have scriptures to back me up
This is the time to witness to him about Jesus instead of toning it down. Bizzle and Bryann Trejo Listen to them guys you’ll hear and see the difference.
And KB.
Travis Anderson how you know He ain’t witness to him later during the interview or off camera? Cmon man use your head and be slower to judge for with the same standards you impose on others are the same that will be imposed on you. And don’t be hypocritical as if you are witnessing to every person you meet and telling them about Jesus. Did you tell your boss about Jesus when you saw him today Inc front of everybody on camera? Did you tell it to the cashier in the store in front of everybody on camera? Did you tell the homeless person about Jesus in front of everybody on camera? Stop being ridiculous.
Dude has been tryna kill religion smh
@@terrycrews1760 "EXCUSES are for the".... ill let you finish that statement
Facts
The part where believers disagrees with Lecrae, is when he starts trying to act like secular artist made gospel songs, rather than shouting out those who really did gospel music like Cross Movement, etc... Scarface, Pac never represented Christ. So we can’t acknowledge any of their songs as gospel. 🤦🏾♂️
Facts.. And I Love Tupac but God showed me that music was not if him
Sounds like he's saying that those secular artists is what he grew up on; that he didn't grow up a church kid.
Lecrae, called out the people he want to identify with... he playing a game and want to be accepted but don’t wanna risk it like MALI music and then trying to come back and then people not following him no more so he don’t wanna make that mistake.
Pac once said “Got shot 5 times and I’m still breathing living proof there’s a God if you need a reason” Rappers have Christian lines but it gets stifled by the rest of the song and profanity
He's a🤡
First off, Lacrae is coming from a worldly standpoint and is there to pacify TI. If he is a TRUE follower of Jesus Christ, then he would explain what the bible says about "religion" in the book of James, and let TI know all religion is NOT bad according to the bible. Also, he would make a clear distinction for TI, between the institutional church, and Jesus's church that he spoke on in the bible, but I know he didn't because he never does. He clearly wants what the world wants, accolades, awards, recognition, fortune, and fame PERIOD.
So true brother
I agree.
That is good!
Nothing wrong with wanting to be at the top of your profession and the recognition that comes with it. Why do we associate wanting recognition, awards, and being the best with being un-Christian? I'm a journalist and Christian. If I aspire to be award-winning, well-paid, and recognized for my work is that being worldly?
Sounds like something a Pharisee would say...
Do me a favor Tip.... put the whole episode on RUclips please!🙏🏽
podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-not-over-w-lecrae/id1477898952?i=1000475545821
Lecrae Hates God. Watch this video of Lecrae spitting on The Cross. ruclips.net/video/GVJXdDtofEo/видео.html
Its obvious lecrae is not who he appears to be
Leandrew King did you watch the video I posted?
Leandrew King ruclips.net/video/GVJXdDtofEo/видео.html
That is not a balanced discussion.Lecrae should acknowledge he is a Christian rapper.Everyone has his own doubts and questions sometimes but the bottom line is the Truth .You can't beat the traditional religion/church to a pulp
But I think the distinction Lecrae is drawing is that no one calls other artists "Christian singer" or "Christian gospel artist" or "Christian choir". Lecrae doesn't want to be lumped into a genre of sound with "Christian Rappers" who will almost always misunderstand the purpose of rap as art. They attempt to create worship music and nothing else, even though rap is so versatile as a storyteller and a mode for confessions. Lecrae wants the freedom to make all kinds of music, even some songs without the mention of God (which is perfectly godly, just ask Esther and Ecclesiastes)
Lecrae changed my whole respective about the gospel. Growing up, I didn’t want to listen not one gospel song and always try to find ways to tune it out of my head. But Lecrae showed me its way more than that. May God Continues to bless him and his career
Compare this guy to Kanye, whom every black Christian questioned, saying, "I'm a Christian everything." And to think he had the nerve to do a sneak diss video.
So we just gonna ignore the fact the Grits made secular waves way before Crae did? Also Crae how are you gonna say that your not a Christian Rapper when your entire platform form 116 Clique was based on Biblical truth through the art of Hip-Hop? That's flaw bruh but keep dancing around the issue bruh it's gonna mess you up eventually.
Lecrae doesn't identify as a 'Christian Rapper' because he's not. Yes, the 116 platform is based on biblical truth but that doesn't necessarily mean that everyone in 116 is a 'Christian Rapper'. Lecrae is a rapper that makes music about his experiences and faith. Just like Post Malone makes music about relationships. Just like NF makes music for therapeutic reasons. Just like J Cole and Kendrick Lamar make music to tell deep stories with deeper thought. The list goes on. Lecrae is a dope rapper. You don't need 'Christian' tattooed on your forehead to know that you are 'Christian'.
Bruh grits is still fire there music is nice
David Hansen Sounds like a bunch of excuses Just to fit in with the world
@@davidhansen5455 we're Christian warriors therefore we are all Christians artist, teacher, when you do everything for God you are a Christian everything aka a follower of God on everything you do. Simple...his issue is he doesn't want people to reject his music. He doesn't want his music to only be in the Christian rapper side because it doesn't sale as much. His issue is greed, lust of eyes. Lust of flesh because it feels good. Look up the song "I shall not want" by Aubrey and it's as clear as it is. Pray for our breathen instead of making excuses for their backsliding confessions
Couldn't say it better myself!
Don't understand why Lecrae from a Christian home doing great for the Christian music community is distancing himself from being called a 'Christian rapper'
Lecrae stand strong my Brother you can win the unbelieves to Christ we in the last days 💯
He dont Believe his self he dont know what he is 🥴
@@talklesslistenmore5578 watch entire podcast
Stop judging
I'm a Christian and I get why people are straying from religion. People have done alot of messed up things in the name of religion. But those people aren't really religious those are called cults. Religious people scare people away from religion because they use it in a way to put themselves on a petastil. The problem with Christianity is people don't really read the Bible for themselves.They just hear what some Christians do and say and don't like it. If they did they would realize that it's not about religion it's about a relationship with Christ. Hope you guys will read and make up your OWN mind. God bless !!
Lecrae Hates God. Watch this video of Lecrae spitting on The Cross. ruclips.net/video/GVJXdDtofEo/видео.html
David Lawrence true.
Everyone should read for themselves and from they own relationship with God. But there is nothing wrong with fellowshipping with others who believe in God in one building, no matter how big or small. I am a Child of God. And I enjoy going to church. I just know that people in church including some ministers & pastors are not perfect humans. You can not judge & blame all churches on the thoughts and religious beliefs of others. I see church as a building to go to & praise God with others. So, even if I’m not in that building I can still praise God with like minded children of God, Christians. Read the word for yourself.
Everything you said I agree with. That was spot on. Us Christians are still humans. We will mess up. Sin I’m inevitable, everyone will sin in this lifetime. Getting to know Christ for yourself, and having your own relationship is the only way you get into the Kingdom of heaven. You can’t go off of what others do or say. Can it affect you sure but God calls every man and woman to “choose ye this day”. A lot of craziness has happened in the name of religion Christ or not. It’s still up to you on the individual level to figure out and read about who this Christ is in the Bible. He didn’t come to make people perfect. He came to redeem us back unto the father. It’s sad because you see people who don’t believe in Christ just waiting on Christians to fail and they point out their sins and failures. When the scriptures clearly talks about not comparing yourself to someone else. It’s sad but that’s the state of the world today.
I don't agree. Wars that killed millions of people were fought in the name of religion. Scriptures are interpreted differently depending on who you talk to or which church you attend. Large parts of the Bible were removed because it did not aid a motive of certain kings and others in power. Religion is just a tool used by those in power.
Mr. “Unashamed” is sounding pretty ashamed.
Riiiiight!!!!
*WHATTT???* he doesn’t sound ashamed at all. you on the other hand is sounding pretty religious and ignorant
Ashamed of the religion, not of God.
not at all actually
It does if you ignore context 🙃
Was called Christian because Christian is to be like Christ Jesus
Scarface bruh did not rap any gospel. I grew up listen to scarface stop playing. The gospel belong to Jesus not man.
I use to love ghetto boys and don't know nothing about no gospel ghetto boys
A1 💪🏽
He has gospel songs even on mind playing tricks he talks about every Sunday morning I'm in service , praying for forgiveness
@@joshuamusau8601 That's different from the gospel my friend. Rapping about the gospel is giving people the good news about the love of Jesus Christ. I remember scars songs very clearly. Asking for forgiveness is a great thing it's called repentance.
🤦🏽♂️ This is where I see no backbone when it comes to the gospel of Jesus Christ. First of all labeling all churches like religion has nothing to do with the other. Religion is religion and church is church and Lecrae always has a chance to defend the gospel, but would rather throw at the church.
To anyone that has ever suggested "religous music'' to someone 😒
Me: I'm a fan of lecrae. he has a few good songs.
Them: he's a christian rapper. i don't listen to that kind of stuff. you a bible thumper?
Me: no
them: but you listen to church music
Me: yeah. i listen to a lot of stuff
them: no thanks.
Me: ok..... 🙄 so this is cool:
"Bitch, don't play with me
Oh that's your man? I'll take your man!
Now he mines, haha
Yeah, hoe!
I'll take your man"
them: oh no, I don't really listen to the lyrics like that. I just listen to the beat.
me: so if he rapped over that beat you'd be fine with it? *beings to plays freestyles lecrae did over various popular rap beats*
them: nah I don't really like what he's saying though. i'm not into religion like that.
me: I though u just listened to the beat though? 🤔
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄so beats can be religious now? If you don't like certain kinds of music, fine. but don't lie about the reasoning. It's funny people magically hear lyrics when it's something they don't like but only hear the beat on songs they do like.
Jen J sooo true 😂
Excellent point!!!
Good stuff!
Ahahaha, yo friends listen to too much city girls 😂 the beats do be fire but lyrics trash as ever, all they do is rhyme
Never heard so much truth in one YT comment. You have my respect.
I would love to hear him interview Bizzle as well.
I would love to hear him interview Sevin!
Bizzle is not a watered down Christian. Not sure I can say that about Lecrae
Dorian Saunders facts!!!
Yep!!!!
They won't put real men of God on there only the ones who compromise 💯
Lecrae’s music is his expression. He Christian, a man, human, husband, etc. by sharing it, he lets us see where we may connect to him in words that we just didn’t have the words to express. No person can be only Christian but we can be rooted in our faith in God
So lecrae doesn’t want the title of Christian Rapper because he’s ashamed of the gospel. Gotcha
No because it creates a stereotype for sound. When you hear Christian music, you might think that it should sound a certain way or it sounds corny. Doing so would compromise a person's creativity and it's like placing God in a box.
Is it Gospel Rap? So he speaks about all subjects in his music? Is he a rapper with ”Christian” as the label? What? To me, he is a Christian Artist who makes music. So he is a rapper with Christian as a wrapper. He is getting us all wrapped up in this conversation.
Did he just say being a Christian is Lame? Funny because his label is called Unashamed 🤔
lol Idk where you heard that, that’s definitely not what I heard. He’s not tryna put religion into people’s minds, that’s basically it (which is great btw)
Truth Unscripted with Tala nah fam, he said he is a Christian
Lecrae stop denouncing Christ. Stand up for him
Well said
he’s not denouncing Christ
Lecrae is a wanna be believer,he is not real
You guys truly believe if Lecrae was serving the TRUE Holy God he will be welcomed on the worldly platforms??? 🤔
@@ALLIN4CHRIST777 you really believe that if you were serving the TRUE Holy God, you’d be commenting on a worldly platform like RUclips 🤔
T.I. doesn't believe in the right God though..
Nobody truly knows who the right God is??? Its all based on the "belief" factor, right...There's no facts to back any.
@@pressurewashingwithkoolfel9738 Just so you know:
If you say "I didn't know who the right God was" when you stand before the Lord and have to give an account for your life, that excuse isn't going to fly with Him.
You cannot make up your own god and expect to enter Heaven. God is Holy. He must punish sin and there is only ONE way to be saved.
Jesus is the only true and living GOD.
He believes in himself
Lecrae song blessing is my favorite song from him I felt that song I have had so many blessings from god🙏🏾
Jasmine B so have i GOD is the greatest
TI: “talk about your spiritual transformation “
LecrAe: “well I grew up in a legalistic...”
(T.i interrupts and makes it about his opinion)
T.I: “yeah God is real , religion is fake.... put in place by the powers that be to control “
Dude ... shut up ... u talk like you know bout it , but you don’t be about it. Your not a Christian , so don’t talk like you know About Christianity . Always using the examples of those who abuse the truth as the example for Christianity.
That’s not how the conversation went 😭
T.I "God is not religion"
Bible: James 1:26
If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
What is the ORIGINAL definition for religion?
What was the Greek word for religious being used in James 1:26 (the New Testament was not written in English, but mostly Greek )
What was the ORIGINAL MEANING OF THE GREEK WORD BEING USED FOR RELIGIOUS IN JAMES 1:26
The difference is Lecrae is talking about organized religion, when someone is somehow either profiting or gaining power from their brothers and sisters. He doesn't believe in the power of the higher ups in the modern Catholic Church. Stuff like that. But I think he does believe in community, in giving alms, and so much more. He doesn't classify it as "religion" because "religion" is now synonymous with race, gender, and social class.
T.I. thinks Lecrae means that he believes in worshiping a God without sharing truths, and without having a community. T.I. assumes Lecrae just wants to have a Christian faith with himself.
This video clip is evidence of a huge misunderstanding between both of them. Kind of a shame really because Lecrae makes great points he just messed up some semantics here and there
Used to be his fan... and he real one of the first artists to push me into CHH and that helped my faith a lot. Since he started pushing this 'I am not a Christian rapper' narrative he lost me.
I agree, him saying I am not a Christian rapper is saddening, but I will say there are a lot of Christian's who claim the know Jesus and they are a Christian, the interesting thing is a lot of people who do that never dive deeper into the Bible, religion can be the kickstart to faith or the downfall. I believe that I do not have a religion but a relationship, I know Jesus died and he rose again and I believe he died for our sin, but some people who claim to be Christian's I disagree with. But at the end of the day I am called to be more like Christ and then love others like Christ loved
He lost me with his latest hit. It has the N-word being played on gospel stations all day long. They don't even play that on general hip hop stations. I'm upset with the stations for bot blocking it but he could have EASILY said brother/a. Things will come but woe from whom they come. Congrats to being the first "Christian rapper" to have the Nword said on national radio in your song.
@@premierproperties240 well technically, the lyric was, "all that bitterness and anger had to let it go". But it does sound so much like that which kinda sucks but ya know 🤷
That is his goal. He sold out. Stay strong, brother.
@@Yung_Bean116 are you sure?
I'm glad Tip did this interview. It shows a lot of range. Lecrae's music is so inspiring and uplifting while also being music you can beat in your car.
I think he's straddling the fence
I don’t think so. Unfortunately he didn’t get a chance to explain himself in that clip. I like Tip but he love to talk and taking over conversations with his own views. In reality he needs a podcast where he interviews himself only.
KB LoL. A laugh of agreement.
It obvious he is straddling the fence
He isn't bro... go listen to the full podcast, crae gave him the gospel.
KB 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Here's the thing with Lecrae he goes on and on since dropping Church Clothes vol 1 in 2012 trying to distance himself from being a Christian rapper going on talking about he spiritual-but-not-religious or he doesn't ascribe to a religion however this man is a member of a church, this man believes the Holy Bible is the word of God, not a book about God, or someone's perspective about God, but is the very literal word of God. This man believes Jesus Christ is God the Son, God incarnate In the Flesh, not just a good moral teacher, or leader to pattern our lives after, but he literally believes that the faith in the life, death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven. At any of his concerts there's always a Time where there is an offering if you will to go towards World Vision a Evangelical Christian charity group. He doesn't drink alcohol, smoke, cuss, etc.. not because it's a personal choice but because it's his firm conviction that those things are not in agreement with the Holy Bible which again he believes is the literal word of God. Therefore every time this dude tries to separate himself from the Christian religion he's doing a disservice to two group's... Christians who've supported him and continue to support him even with his deviation from being as open about his religion, and then the non-religious secular group because he's just making it out as if he just about positivity, unity, etc.. etc.. either way it doesn't personally affect me the man's actions have no effect on my life in the way I choose to live it, but it's easy to see the dude just plays both sides of the fences because he knows if he completely turned his back on the Christian group he realizes that's where the majority of his Fame and Fortune comes from and if he distance himself from the secular world then he'll just be looked at as another one of them holier-than-thou religious nuts. I honestly feel bad for the dude, it's got to be hard walking the line, instead of just being and doing what you want to do. If you want to be Christian and promote Jesus then do it more power to you, you want to just be rapping and making your paper doing it for the culture then do it, more power to you. Just quit playing both sides man! people on both sides of the fence really look at you suspect, and no one really respects you, you're just a token to the one, and credibility to the other, and who's who really just depends on what time of the day it is.
He's just tired of Christians attacking him. People saying he's trying to be more like the world than for God because of his style of music. He said it alot when he was talking about losing his religion. I think it's wrong what he's doing but I feel like he's just kinda tired of the chriticism.
@@davidlawrence8051 Well, Lecrae is weak and can't handle the pressure of being a Christian.
So-called Christians have attacked me for standing on the word of God and for other reasons too. We should expect persecution from others when we boldly worship and serve Christ.
@@blacknmild I agree but I don't think it's up to us to judge him. You personally haven't had his spotlight and don't know what it's like to be him. So yes he wasn't strong enough to handle his pressure but you've never had his pressure so please leave the judgement to the one above and out of your heart.
this might be the best comment on this subject i've ever seen. very on-point
Gotta disagree. I actually listened to the podcast he really went in and shared his faith. He also said he no longer cares what people call him. Lots of growth. Also I think everyone wants him to be what they want. I feel like he’s not straddling he’s being himself. He IS Christian. He IS hip hop. Nobody else has done what he’s done or been where he’s been. What other Gospel rappers is TI interviewing? I don’t think he wants clout I think he just wants to be himself but church folks say he’s fake cause he won’t take on the labels. I respect his hustle. I don’t know anyone else that when you bring up the name gospel rap to the outside world they can name anyone but him.
For me and my house we will serve the Lord no matter what
Warm, sorry to say he need to pick a side. It's going to be harder
On Friday, he spoke at the memorial for a great Theologian Ravi Zacharias. He said how he performs on stage then runs back to the bus to listen to theology debates. He take Dr. Ravi for teaching him theology and many other praises on the Dr. Zacharias then performs a song that he dedicated the performance to him... He started his speech by saying he wasn’t a believer but now he is... find that and balance that with what he’s saying here and the image he’s trying to portray
Can’t wait to watch this entire interview
Where the rest of the interview?
Lecrae Hates God. Watch this video of Lecrae spitting on The Cross. ruclips.net/video/GVJXdDtofEo/видео.html
@@michellesteed6031 podcast type it up on goigle. He corrected ti and gave him the gosphel
Saying you don’t need religion is like a baseball player saying he doesn’t need his coaches, players or baseball field
True religion is an inner experience. God revealing himself to you
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
James 1:27 KJV
One of the most underrated rappers.
Real talk
Indeed!
Factssss. GOD send
How is underrated with multiple Grammy awards. He the most popular Christian hip hop personality. Multiple breakfast club appearances and now this one. How much more acclaim can he get??
@@faithhouse6111 Underrated because his music is not reaching as many people as it should be. Grammys don't matter but you right.
It's ironical; the 116 record label leader is ashamed of the very thing he is about🤦♂️🤦♂️
Love Lecrae, I think he is one the dopest artists of our generation. But when it comes to the Christian Rappper box embrace my G, ain't nothing to be ashamed about it because that what you are and you do it exceptionally well.. In the words of Kanye I'm a Christian everything.
I don’t think he ever said he was ashamed of being labeled a Christian rapper , he just doesn’t like the box that it puts him in and feels like it will automatically cause people to assume things about him and his music that aren’t necessarily true.
Nf put it like this , when you have a carpenter to fix something etc.
Do you refer to him as a Christian Carpenter
Christian artist
Christian manager
Or a carpenter who is a christian
(I probably couldve explain it better but I think you get me)
I agree with you. I feel like he don’t wanna really rap about Jesus though. He is still trying to please the world, rather to be pleasing to God as it says so in the bible. Atleast thats what it looks like to me
@@chosenonekay dont think it's really that. The Christian rapper box is career limiting in his eyes. Lecrae wants air play on regular radio alongside whatever is in the mainstream charts. What's sad is that artists want a foot in while someone like Kanye who reached the pinnacle in mainstream success wants out. somewhere Christian artists have to realise commercial appeal ain't worth it. a strong identity is more valuable.
@@jpanderson8949 Chic Fil a is Christian business closes on Sunday etc. It's a commercial enterprise with undeniable Christian roots. What Lecrae is giving as an example is secular artists who rap about God every once in a while however the basis of their career is secular. I feel he is more of a Chic Fil a than a Popeye's. However he would rather be viewed as a Popeye's just because he sells "chicken".
I’m still confused why he wouldn’t just answer how long he’s been married 👀🤣
He don't remember. lol
He doesn’t lol
He said 14 years 3:42
@@planorban no he didn't he said together 14 years, but TI asked how long has he been married married and he didn't give a straight answer, I'm guessing he wasn't sure. It's strange how TI asked how long... and he gave a longggg answer that still wasn't clear.
I’m sooo glad TI did this interview. Lecrae is one of the most slept on hip hop artist. Who else can create dope albums without cursing?
bizzle, andy mineo, kb, trip lee, flame, sho baraka, datin, WLAK, viktory, da truth...i could really list like 50. even a secular artist like will smith doesn't curse and he has plenty of hits
NF. Try His song named let you down and Real
The entire Christian rap industry 😂😂
The way he talking I'm glad 😴😴😴😴
Bryann trejo sevin datin harmini aaron young bro kingdom music messiah music the list goes on
First let me say this, I always hear people try to credit Lacrea with Being THE pioneer of Gospel rap and he had a role bringing it more into light but that's not entirely true. I cannot talk about the start of truth Muzic unless we go way back to the 90's. There was a group of 3 ex gang members that found JESUS, and simply called themselves GOSPEL GANGSTERS and they were very popular and did collaborations with some very big names, and Muzic waz dope. Nobody gives them credit cause nobody knows how far back truth music goes. 2cd, I really like lacrea but this whole I'm not a christian rapper stance sounds like straddle the fence type stance and to me a waste of time. This my stance. I LOVE GOD MORE THAN ANYTHING IN THIS WORLD AND DON'T CARE WHAT YOU.THINK ABOUT IT. Thirdly, I don't think t.i. is the right choice of interviewer for this type artist or subject, and I like t.i.
Fourthly, I SECOND YOUR OPINION! 💪🏽
@KB24.8 Lecrae*
Wrote*
I remember the Gospel Gangsters.
Sorry about the name spelling...Lecrae.
Gotta see the whole interview man. Growing up I listened to both TI and Lecrae. This is an legendary interview to me.
What do you do when you see a BROTHER slipping away??? You/We pray for him.
I’ve been a die hard Lecrae fan since I was 14
From Rehab to All Things Work Together
I love Lecrae and everyone knows. Seems to me tho that he’s always compromising the faith whenever he is with people who don’t exactly fall in the Christian sect of people.
He does this and comes back and Sir please stop it
Take you stand
Much Love Sir
#116unashamed ❤️
I remember when he got a grammy no one was really cheering him on. It's like they didn't know who he was or something. It just shows you how fake people are. They don't care about you until your gone.
Lecrae just continuously treats the CHH community like the his little brother who he hates being forced to take with him around the cool kids. He’s so consistently ashamed of us and anything traditionally Christian. He always goes out of his way to highlight his “Worldly” resume and then downplays all of us when we’ve been the one buying all his albums and supporting him his whole career
Smh, a lot of Christian be secret fans of the secular artist and industry. They be want to fit in. 🤫
Facts
Since Lecrae Doesn't Consider himself A Christian Rapper, Why Did he Accept Music Awards In The Christian And Gospel Categories Category From Both Secular And Christian Awards Shows Organization?
Since he Isn't A Christian Rapper, he Should Give Those Awards Back.
Just Chill In Christ, Kyle Manning
Stop
😂😂 nah
@@7Logik
Why?
@@tonycrawford9384
Why Not?
He's confused..He's straddling the fence..
I’ve listened to Lecrae for a long time, at least a couple of years and he is definitely a Christian rapper! He raps in 116. With Trip Lee, Tedashii, and Andy Mineo, and lots of other people!
The thing about religion is that it isn't necessarily bad, the book of James says that 'pure religion' is taking care of the widow and orphans, and to keep ones self from being tainted by this world
No one remembers this scripture sadly
@@davidalberty8951 truth
KB left for no reason and this is the reason KB left. KB's music is way different than this compromising man.
I dont believe in religion either but, I am a child of the 👑.
Lecrae should have run with that label..it was not going to stop his music from affecting culture and to be honest it would garner more support from his fan base.#Rebel2
TIP where is the full interview or podcast? I like what you're doing thanks for the example bro with the music business and being a family man...BIG UPS
1 Corinthians 10:21"You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons.
People who want to sin always criticize religion. The word is real.
Wait isn’t his purpose in making music for Christ....I mean that’s what Christian artist do am I right? Hip Hop rappers make worldly music, i mean anyone can correct me if I’m wrong
In my opinion if God would of gave me the talent to rhyme I would be doing it to glorify the body at all times. And not just say one or two things about the walk or mention the name Jesus in a song and thing that’s good or cool I don’t think God will be pleased if you use the talent He gave you for anything else that’s wrong plus calling yourself a CHRISTIAN RAPPER WHATS WRONG WITH THAT? To me it sound like he being ashamed to be called a Christian rapper, own it bro God gave you the gift. But you know how many Christians/Believers are today they wanna be doing things like having bible studies without the Bible, having bible studies with spiritual books, they want to have one foot in and one foot out, we can not have it both ways and the irony is 116 is to rep Romans 1:16 if you not ashamed of the gospel put more gospel in your music, rep Christ in calling yourself a Christian rapper, well that’s if your doing it for Him just saying...as one who is ready to go, I have nothing, I am nothing without Christ I’m Christian everything...I’m the Praying Barber idk what the world thing, God gifted my hands to cut hair I rep Him...well that’s just my two cents...to each their own 🤷🏻♂️ I just pray that He changes that thought frame, to me I wouldn’t care what you titled me as long as the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is getting the glory and honor for my music!
EliteAthlete15 my question to you is if you were in his shoes would you take his stance or would you call yourself a Christian rapper? And yes we do have to proclaim Christ 24/7, do a study on the word proclaim...I will come and proclaim your mighty acts, Sovereign Lord; I will proclaim your righteous deeds, yours alone Ps. 71:16 last time I check living a surrendered life to Christ it’s all about Him, Luke 9:23 Then He said to them all: whosoever wants to be my disciples must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me. It’s all about Him not me that’s why I personally would title myself as a Christian rapper we are to stand out, bible tells us to be a peculiar people, we are in the world but not of this world. 24/7 bro 24/7 He died for us why short change the Lord
@@613realist Lecrae said he was a christian in this 5 minute clip & yet you're stuck on him not wanting to be labeled as a Christian rapper. What's Christ like about you judging him for that when he never denied Christ? All I'm seeing is a whole lot of judgemental & hypocritical saved folks nitpick a label when other christian artists have the same view as not wanting to use that label (NF, Switchfoot & TFK). Jesus came for the sick, the lost & the hurting. You're found in Christ, great & Jesus belongs to everyone. So if taking the label off of a PROFESSION draws more ppl in to how he lives his life while following Jesus, why are you so against that? Who you are & what you do are not the same thing. If it doesn't why isn't he a labeled as a black christian rapper, or a man, husband, brother, father, friend, black christian rapper or anyone else for that matter? Using any label in your PROFESSION doesn't make someone more or less of all the things they are.
I think TI and Lecrae have very different understandings of the term “organized religion”. Like, Lecrae affirms that Christ is the Son of God and that the Bible is the Word of God. Christ is the Way, the Truth, the Life and the only way to the Father. Not sure that’s what TI affirms
Amen, and that’s where the confusion lies because Lecrae did not do anything to correct him. That’s definitely a problem for me. So my question is what is Lecrae’s mission here?
@@pwilson1961 did you watch the whole episode?
@@pwilson1961 Go listen to the full podcast, lecrae corrected him and gave him the gospel.
Paula Wilson I see your quick to judge off a 5 min snippet w/ out the whole context. Glad I don’t know you in real life. Especially if you look to correct people within 5 min of talking. That would be irritating. Especially if your not trying to ask me questions in a lengthy conversation.
Tip podcast just keep getting better and better.. I will most def be listening to the rest of this tonight
Lecrae is going out his wayyyy. Answer already.
Watch full podcast. He educate ti bro
I love Lacrae and play his music everyday to inspire me. I'm glad my Christian friends turned me on to his progressive rap. Him and Derek Minor speaks to me and my community.
Lecrea is not being honest he made out like he has always been stating that he is a rapper who happens to be a Christian and not a gospel rapper. He switched to that as he made his move to become popular in the secular worldly rap industry a few years back.
Previously he was a Christ exclusive rapper with strictly Christian/Biblical/Gospel content. I'm not judging him but it's like these guys use the church market place in order to springboard to where they really want to go, then when they get the opening they start marketing themselves as Christian doing secular music then they start doing collabs with the unsaved.
If I can remember rightly Lecrea started out with Cross Movements, it doesn't get more in your face gospel rap than that. I think Cross movements were one of the the first ground breaking evangelistic gospel rap groups out there.
I hear you. I really don't get why Lecrae be saying such "non-sense".
@Michael Williams saved as in non believer. The bible says believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved. So the true believer can confidently say they are saved.... saved from thier sins which is what Jesus came to do. I can pull up the bible verses if you like 🙂😀
@Michael Williams you got that right!
I have never heard any Lecrae where he doesn't rap about other issues alongside God tho, but I may not go back far enough to know what you mean? The thing is, contemporary christian music is rarely viewed on the same level of artistry as other genres. And I think it is partly because it tends to be much more insular and narrow in both focus and sound, when compared with Lecrae. I can understand why he wants/deserves to be respected as a rapper, rather than pidgeon-holed as 'christian-rap'. And as with Zaytoven, he probably does more to spread good messages and build bridges by NOT identifying as strictly for the church. I was raised in the church, and also left...it was too limiting for where I wanted/needed to go. But respect to those who hold it down authentically, and with justice for all people.
So true
When is the full episode coming out???
When you try so hard to be a part of the world that you forgot that your in it but not of it! Lecrae needs to really examine his true motives. And see if what he’s doing is really for the glory of Christ. I don’t think so 😔
Him and Andy Mineo.
@@lisasmith8007 facts because their becoming more wordly by the minute
Straight to the point post.
And this is straight facts
M lopez yet he still leading more ppl to Christ behind the scenes than you are so what does that say?
Shakalaka Bombastic no man leads people to Christ. The Holy Spirit working in man and the Father drawing people to Him leads people to Christ.
We need the whole interview this was dope
download the podcast it's free
The whole podcast is on Spotify
open.spotify.com/episode/4dC8ER0FiIbN0GcYiAIL4d?si=Xe6DDQZlTsi_7TUC3L5jHA
Lukewarm
False, you just do not understand his mission
Ok that what any lukewarm Christian would say! You say you profess the Lord but you love the things he hates! Where is your discernment? No lacrae and those who vouch for him are lukewarm Christians! It’s called “go along to get along”. See people like you who say “I” don’t understand Kill me because it’s like you don’t even take time to actually understand , you simply tell people that their confused because we are brave enuff to call you fake Christians out! But ok I don’t understand !
Tj Edwards bruh you trippin. Your being condescending. Gentleness is a fruit of the Spirit. If he’s fake then I’m calling you out for being fake too bc clearly you are not under the influence of the Holy Spirit. You sound like the same religious leaders Jesus rebuked and condemned in the gospels for trying to preach and teach and yet didn’t even know the savior nor did they grasp his teachings of love and his messianic position.
Full podcast he corrected ti and gave him the gosphel
@@7Logik exactly, watch full podcast
It's all about relationship and whatever you feed the most is the dominate one..For Christ I live and for Christ I die... Let's not fool yourself my brother...
Lecrae u playing yourself! Trying too hard to be apart of....
I agree
U just sound stupid
True. I'm disappointed
Sad
He is comprising .. but nobody is perfect and I will be praying for him
Been waiting on this!!!
When Tip talked about being familiar with Cloverland, I instantly thought of Flip
Me too
I miss the Lecrae I knew years ago. That was dope. I am not a good person to criticize or what... but he used to be such a massive encouragement. comeon man. the heck happened to "..if you ain' heard the truth today, I promise we ll be back tomorrow..", ".. kill me if I don't preach the gospel ... am already dead forget ma flesh", "see your money your singleness talent your time, they were loaned to you to show the world Christ is divine". I loved him so much, all these lyrics and a lot more in my head.
At the end of the day the mark of the beast will be implemented soon. So will know who are truly god's children. We will see ppl choosing between career,music etc
I had to revisit this interview. 22 years independent myself. I get what Lecrae is talking about. If you know you know. If you don't then ok. Salute - King J. Pyr🔥.
Love you Crae! Thank you for pushing something different for the culture.
I would love to be on the podcast to talk about this. Religion is very simple.... Love (and obey) God and taking care of each other.
Cross movement helped make Christian rap popular.
Lecrae is basically the "Kirk Franklin" of HipHop whether he accepts it or not because we already do...
Big fan of his, but his music predominantly is gospel centered, and he says this whole “I rap real stuff...” but most his music his rapping about Christ and how god this and the devil this or whatever ... it’s only over maybe the past 7-8 years where his music hasn’t been gospel centered but him just rapping about various subjects without referencing god and various books of the Bible. However if you listen to anything before gravity it’s laced with bible verses and etc Jesus this or that explicitly.
This is why is fan base and been fractured because when he started saying he wasn’t a Christian rapper his music stopped talking about Jesus and the gospel as much. As for me I still rock with most his music
Lecrae on his first album calls other Christian rappers out for it being more about them than Jesus only for all these years later for him to basically do the same.
💯💯💯
He also was a new Christian when he first started making music hence why he states his songs contained lots of scripture references and things like that because he was still learning a lot about his faith. Also he still had songs early on like “Praying For You” that were relatable and real. But at the end of the day God is real and his book explains a lot
He's not doing the same thing that he called other Christians rappers doing in his 1st album. It's a different transformation when you start out as a Christian and when you go further in your journey because even his last few albums after Gravity he still has God in his music. Putting scriptures in your music doesn't make you a Christian rapper nor should it matter. How you rep the Lord is gonna be different from other people
Wow
@@ACLightnin amen
I'm a man of christ but do not conform or fit to any organization. I will never impose my views on the next man but know this, any one not using christ as the way is painting a false view & might be tricking you to follow into something more sinister. My point is listen to what people preach & really listen to what they are not saying.
God bless to everyone scantless.com
I think it would be dope to interview lil flip besides da history between y’all just showing growth ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
Lecrae just got what he was aiming for... Which is the recognition of the people. When we take to heart people's opinions and views, we begin to try to please people, instead of pursuing our passions. The biggest problem most people have with lecrae, is that what he use to warn others to stay away from, he has become that. That in itself would confuse anybody, especially if there is no clear cut explaination. We can say that we have evolved in a certain understanding, but at least explain it. Because if there is no real explaination to it, then it's just straight hypocrisy.
Yall are trippin because of semantics. He's a Christian period. Get off your high horse, brain washed self and love the brother for what he says he is a Christian. AMEN!
Bro please don't be deceived. In God's bible it tells us don't put your trust in man. The Lord Jesus also tells us some people can be wolves in sheep's clothing???
Naw bruh, he is not a Christian anymore. He honors God with his lips and not with his heart. I'm judging by what he has been consistently saying and lacrae has absolutely no conviction anymore. This is what happens when you try and merge the worlds veiw with the body of Christ.
It's time more than ever to embrace CHANGE and seek PEACE. We must gain wisdom, knowledge and understanding. Give the glory to GOD.
Why is it every time Yall want Lecrae to get on a show and demand he states everything he believes and then debate it ....do you hold your self to that same standard ? I highly doubt it ...I'm not defending him...but y'all need to live it ...and stop judging others to do that which you ain't willing to do yourselves ......
Lecrae is DOPE AF!! Was listening to him at work today!!