Buff/Nerf/Remove | LEC Pop Quiz | 2021 Summer
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- Ahead of LEC Summer 2021 We asked our players what they would like to see buffed, nerfed and removed from the game if they had the power to do so
These were some of their answers.
Reminder: This episode was filmed before Summer Season kicked off on Patch 11.11!
More of these pls why r they so few
Yeah i saw that finally riot buffed viego and gwen is untouched, we are lucky that riot knows priority after fixing mmr.
Ah no wait...
Should've posted that vid earlier then. Kinda stupid like that
Despite of that, i think most of us agree with most of the buffs/nerfs/removes
Buff Pyke
It's funny how JG and Supp role are at each other's throats meanwhile toplaners are nerfing themselves lmao
We are honorable men😤😤
jg supp hate each other, toplaners just hate themselves, that why they play it
@@yujiyujix oh that burns, but also true :( only way for me to extinguish the tourturing flame of my existance is to torture myself with even harsher stuff, like playing toplane
@@yujiyujix you didnt have to BE THAT PERSONAL bro
sounds like Jankos vs Mikyx on a daily basis
Rekkles on navori is spitting facts, bb on triforce too.
"buff darius"
Nah triforce is wierd, divine is way better actually and i agree with adam on darius buff because since the stride change thz champ is really weak and you can see it on his winrate
@@Weirdbrit there is like 1 champ in the game that uses triforce lol
i dont know a single champ that builds trinity force. there were like 5 champs that used trinity for 1 week but then we noticed pre-buffed sunderer is even 5x better.
@@GRASDENUNU Yeah but this was recoreded before stride's nerf so
Oh Kirei, blink twice if you're on a gunpoint
Mikyx and hylissang have literally the same brain
I can only dream these two doing the fusion dance from Dragon ball and creating the ultimate EU support that is Mikyssang to finally win Worlds.
@@munkhsrl Together, they can achieve a new death record in proplay.
@@munkhsrl it's that on a good day, but on a bad day you'd probably need to find a worse word than inting to describe their play
yeah literally not figuratively
@@seventinnine7826 i really likes that, thanks:))
Conclusion: Gwen is a very balanced champion with insane amounts of counterplay.
If you are not meelee like jax, you can't do much vs gwen
Rekkles: "Saying buff adc's would be biased"
Everyone: "Starts buffing their favorite champions"
kekw
@@AntiCSFC His reasoning for removing Yuumi is the same as me. As an adc, you don't get to play in lane.
@@ZanZerejin Agree, also yummi is not a champion that fits in league, her whole kit has no skill expresion, and its frustrating to play against and with her.
thats a KEKW moment
everyone knows that rekkles wants to remove yuumi just because he was forced to play garen back in 2019
@@alexandrul.9910 well saying this as if skill mattered anymore is kinda beeing delu.
I love the fact that every support wants to remove/nerf tenacity
I enjoyed the QSS flame too lol
i mean when you play vs champs with 4 cc spells its a necessity, so i gues its frustrating for Leona not to lock you down for 5 seconds ... and just stand there, you get my point ? to much cc makes it so you have to take it or you dont move at all no fun for both sides
They re just being biased. Remove mercs , nerf tenacity and u cant be able to move ur finger against nautilus / leona (even now sometimes they can stun lock u for hours)
Just remove tanacity ruin and nerf Mercury -5 tanacity and don't touch QSS
@@wabalaka1565 based, with rune tenacity bruisers can easily get 50% tenacity in my opinion that’s just to much at least going mercy feels like a real trade off since steel caps are also really strong.
Ah yes Humanoid "Buff Akali" good one KEKW
This was before Week 1 so nobody knew she's that broken yet
aged well
@@iondustt if that is true, this video is like a month old, don't tell me they needed that much time to refine it and then publish it. It feels so weird, hearing Humanoid ask for an Akali buff when she is the most broken mid laner right now. I don't see how waiting with the publish would help with reactions from the fan base.
@@vigilanterorschach2600 All these videos are done at the start of the split when they invite all the players into studio and then they release during the split so they always have some content. I guess usually not much happens in one patch so they wait one month before the first video.
Like "buff Camille" is better.
Seems like Gwen was also very well received by Pro Players! Riot nailed it once again :^)
Soon she will get nerf into unplayable, like always :)
@@Ronex39 Riot just has to get that $$$ while it's hot XD
@@Ronex39 good
kidna funny how LCS and LEC act like Gwen is a really high prio pick and op, meanwhile LPL doesn't really prio her that much and thinks that while she's strong, she still has a lot of counters and there are way stronger champs.
@@redrxses13 Chinese region plays completly different than EU, NA or KR.
Others: Gwen is op, jungle is broken...
BB: actually, Tryndamere is such an annoying champion.
Thats my boy!
The power of pray for rng to stomp lane.Hownhe isn't reworked yet..
HE SPEAKS FOR US ALL
BB was spitting facts
BB actually smurfed it, buff Tri Force nerf trynd remove TP (btw no need to nerf trynd just take exh vs him no joke, he won't take tp anyway 95% off time)
Literally go malph against trynd and your pretty much winning, hell even using exhaust against him is enough to twart his ult
I mean Nerf Gwen 8x and Remove Gwen 7x... Isn´t it enough evidence your Honor?
@@hugosimonsson8396 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
@@hugosimonsson8396 more like markyetterisweeb.jpg
I would like you to know that having 300 years of collective game design experience is more important than the opinions of some stupid pro players.
Rito Games probably
gwen is one of the most fun champions to play though
@@eviltom8783 and the most not-fun to play against champ. which means 1 guy has fun 4 people watch him have fun and 5 people dont have fun. so it isnt really fair to the 9 other people is it
hyli: i dont like when enemy jungle wants destroy my lane for no reason XDDDD
"League of legends is perfect, no need to remove anything" SAID NO ONE EVER
But I swear the last guy said… *”Gets strangled to death by community”*
I mean he's a jungler
every competitive game has some of unbalanced stuff
"every jungler who can clear six camps before crab spawns" thank god someone said it.
This is just so stupid. And it's not that the newer junglers only do it. Even udyr and heca did it great
Support/Jungle : Nerfing eachother
Top gigachads men of culture: balances own lane.
Good to see, that pro players hate the new champs as much as the community does
they are part of the community
@@alexandrul.9910 He refers to the mortal community, common folk...
i love both off them and i dont mind playing vs them
@@kubax8897 sure you do riot employee mole
@@kubax8897 Ok Mark Yetter ,we see you
everyone: remove/delete gwen
riot: i'll ignore that
5:58 "buff less used runes" don't know who said that but is clearly the smartest
"Nerf Gwen, delete Viego" Amen
More like delete both
Hylissang: I want to buff Pyke to be more like a support and less of an assassin
Mikyx: I want to buff Pyke, I just want to jump in and execute some people
Checks out
Buff: LEC
Nerf: LPL
Remove: LCS
tbf of the 3 you listed, only lpl and lcs (not the top teams tho, they're pretty boring, but EG games are funny as fuck) are consistently fun to watch, also VIT games are fun too I guess, also whenever LEC becomes a fiesta suddenly
Based
@Hui lang idk what you are smoking but lec casters are by far worst in 4 major regions. they are full of cringe and borning storylines on repeat
Underrated comment
@@eonnephilim852 lcs is fun to watch AHAHAH. These clownfiestas 24\7 is fun to watch? Why even make e-sports then, just translate soloQ games.
"League of legends is perfect, no need to remove anything" wow such a nice comment
They probably pointed a gun on his face, or treatened to nerf his most loved champ to the ground.
dobra SLIka ROKO POZ KUCI ZALIJ CVJECE
@@adamrozsa9923 KEKW
@@adamrozsa9923 Probably said to remove lux and Riot wasn't having it.
I don’t really wanna be mean, but do you really wanna listen to the weakest jungler in the league?xd
Rekkles hit the nail on the head with yuumi. honstly, it sucks having your game ruined as an adc, just because your support wanted to nothing all game.
The fact there exists a champion that doesn't play the game and sits in people, remove yuumi
Maybe we just like to be pretend we're a cat sometimes. Sorry.
Meow
as a yuumi main i get that some ppl dont like her in there lane but a good yuumi can be good or at least in gold 1 where i am ive trashed lanes cause they dont resect yuumi if they know what there doing but in draft if my adc ask if i can not play yuumi then i wont
Worse thing is that you suffer a Yuumi lane for her to then leave you for a bruiser. Get minimal reward for a massive pain in lane
razork is right, the ocean drake slow is so annoying like why?
if its the first drake up i ignore it most of the time, you just cant get off of it if people collapse. Even with good vision you just cant move so if you cant go through walls you are screwed
cuz an early game ocean drake is just broken i guess, the sustain buff impact lanes so hard (especially toplane).
so imo it's normal this one is the hardest drake to kill
Also cloud dragon does a lot of dmg even though it gives the worst bonuses
They should nerf a little the ocean soul tbh
@@ozymandias8523 i think ocean soul is one of the worst (depending on your comp obviously) fire and mountain are far better souls since on teamfights they have more value (you don't always have time to regen between fights) and during teamfights periods you'll most likely be under grievous wound (if your team has kind of self healing)
i love movement speed so i'm a bit biaised concerning the soul one and since one of my mains is irelia i need the ult cd reduction.
but ocean is by far the best drake during laning phase , between 3 armor or sustain each 5 sec based on your missing hp it's pretty obvious which one is the best
Riot: Ok guys after seeing this what are we gonna do next patch
Riot Dev: Well.. lets nerf adc leave gwen and viego like this
Love this content!!
Alright Phreak, you heard BB, buff Triforce!!
So anyway we're buffing assasins ,because some of them can't oneshot Cho'gath.
i like how selfmade aint in the video but we all know where is buff evelynn coming from
Oh, my God, i can’t believe you posted another one of these! I’m so excited😋
Adam participation summed :
DARIUS
like how hans went for a draven buff without any second thoughts lmao
I enjoyed his reply to removing Gwen b/c he just has to run back to base
Buff draven like he doesnt 1shot you with lethality midgame yea..
@@lowceyn2875 That champ is so goddamn bad ,since you HEAVILY RELY on laning phase. If you don't get at least 3 kills early then it's GG for you.
@@lowceyn2875 are you delusional by any chance
@@lowceyn2875 u have to snowball to even be a champ
Odoamne about to shift the entire meta by 10 seasons with those flash and tp suggestions.
Neon gained so much respect for those "remove" options
I love those videos, this brings the players closer to the player base. @LEC keep then coming!
Supports and junglers are the meme of the 2 spiderman pointing at each other saying 《your role is broken》 《no your role is broken》
buff nerf remove video in 2020, everybody: "NERF SENNA REMOVE APHELIOS"
buff nerf remove video in 2021, everybody: "NERF GWEN REMOVE VIEGO"
i see a pattern here..
Kirei was held by gunpoint. We can see it reflected in his eyes. Don't lie to us, LEC production team!
I FINALLY KNOW WHAT MAGIFELIX VOICE SOUNDS LIKE!!
I love this content! Please make more of this. Like "Which champ you don't want to play against?" or "Pro player you hate to play against?"
Nobody:
Adam: Buff Darius
Somebody needs to tell Riot, that not having a champion come out in a long time is better than releasing something like Gwen…
gwen is fun though
@@eviltom8783 and the most not-fun to play against champ. which means 1 guy has fun 4 people watch him have fun and 5 people dont have fun. so it isnt really fair to the 9 other people is it
5:49 thats the logic of being an duelist especialist. Good point.
So you want to delete scaling champs like Kayle? Also mana hungry champs like Camille? You know, not all top is Sett vs Darius, fighting to see who is the bigger bully. Sometimes you can't win the lane, you can't help getting poked and don't want to get dived. You back and tp to get some hp, mana, potion charges and hopefully an item advantage. Also how do you want top to have an impact on the game without tp? Top is a long 1 player lane so backs hurt, it is most susceptible to freezes, can't splitpush well without tp, can't tp for drakes or bot... Tp is necessary, top isn't just a duel unga-bunga lane.
Rekkles already wise before it even begins.
Bb spitting facts on trynda
Also on Triforce.
Actually no
@@_PYR0_K0N4_ actually yes
@@xmasterkip but actually, in fact, no
I liked the TP remove the most
Adam wants to see the world burn with Darius buff xD
Upset: I wanna play with Ardent Supps again
Carzzy: DELETE THIS ITEM
Upset living in his ideal s7 world, bruh
@@walkelftexasranger yeah same, I love Ardent...xD
God bless BB wanting to nerf Tryndamere, that shit is busted af
rather than busted he's very unfun to play, its like a lottery when you duel him in early levels
@@danielortega6035 unfun to play since yall dont know how to play against a aa based champ
Literally all you have to do is go malphite and your literally winning
@@notspoopy8512 no the problem is the fact that he ults in, kill your 2 damage dealers and gets off easily. its unfun
@@hwuntsu4425 bro if you let a trynda go in against 5 alone and manage to escape he either is a god or yall never heard about cc.
@@notspoopy8512 lemme just get counter pick every game real quick
I liked this much more than the previous one, I'm not sure if it's longer or not, but most gave a longer explanation in their choice.
Ahhh yes buff aredent, nerf tenacity, and remove qss
How very support thing to say
Adam is an absolute madlad asking for Darius buffs
Good job with the cuts. There was some great humor here :)
At the end you can see someone said they want Swain buffed. This person is 100% Bwipo, and he is talking specifically about Swain top, which was for me at least the original AP bruiser.
The buff category really shows how players just want whatever will give themselves an edge.
So funny format! More like this pls
Really liked to see how Hyli and Miky are on the same page, reminded me of the players introduction in Athens
dont care about buffs, nerf Viego's numbers and remove/rework Gwen's W
next patch:we decided to buff gwen.
Buff : everyone but akali
Nerf : akali
Delete : akali
So conclusion:
Buff: what the player personally likes and wants to be able to play
Nerf: Jungle and Gwen.
Plot twist: they cut out the "just kidding" at the end
six player wanting to remove viego and Hans Sama saying gwen has no counterplay hopefully opens Riot's eyes. Stop overloading champion kits please
Jesiz! Sounds like we would get along well. Although I don't want Zyra to be pick/ban in soloq.
Btw, turn up the bass at 2:28.
Rekkles and Neon also say something. :D
Rekkles is my boy
And playing against her is also frustrating. You stomp her in lane but she will just sit on something like 2/0 Kassadin and he will carry the game alone and you can do nothing about it. The champion ruins the game for both sides.
Frustrating if the adc is a vayne
Hylissang wanting to buff pyke is the most hylissang thing ever.
Buff : Shurelya
Nerf : Pubstomp champions (Kat, Yi, Garen, etc.)
Remove : Viego
If they filmed this now, they would certainly mention Akali, either nerf or remove (ignore humanoid)
Bwipo: "murdering people with tanks is fun too"
Buff Turrets, they are to easily diveable…
I think that every time someone dives a turret. How can an adc be hit by a turret this many times and still manage to get out?
This. Absolutely. Had a game earlier today where the level 6 enemy botlane dived me 100-0, tanked a grand total of seven (!) tower shots between them, Vlad got out with ~50% HP, and Tahm with about 30% (all this while being fired at by a frustrated Ezreal). Yes, they were playing an "unconventional" botlane.
TRUE
Adding to that, I wish they didn't just buff the damage but also the AI. Tower aggro is so retarded at times that I question if towers need to even exist in the first place.
Mikyx + Hyli: Pyke buff as a support please
Me: Yes!
We respect the Trundle buff!
Nerf Tenacity and mercs so that u get cc'ed for 200years without counterplay
I agree so much on triforce buff it just cant keep up with the other mythic items
Pros: Nerf Gwen and Jungle role
Riot Games: Ah yes, we nerf Riven
Like Riven didn't need nerfs, sure
guess the all elos top 1 toplaner didn't deserve a nerf
Buff - Cloud Drake and Ryze
Nerf - Ocean Drake and Darius
Remove - Urgot
I could listen to Zanzarah talking for an hour.
that's like not that much time, its a decent amount tho
The biggest clowns were the two guys asking for camille and akali buff.
as if 600 true damage on a q is not enough. and why tf did riot think a 4 dash champ with in combat invis is a good idea
@@hwuntsu4425 only 600? camille has a chogath r on a 3 second cd late game
@@Shaggy87781 oh my bad cho R on a Q. LMAO RIOT
@@hwuntsu4425 honestly, gets divine sunderer (more damage than eclipse an assassin item) and then has garen+cho r with a shield
5:08 genuinely good idea. as a jungler. I hate getting spotted by laners with that. I mean it just adds more skill in terms of warding and stuff if you remove that plant.
Am I the only 1 that when seeing rekkles tought that he lost like 5/6 kg just by looking at his face?
Amazing work Paula, as always
Was I the only one waiting for Jankos in the end to defend jungle role and talk about how op other roles are?
5:15 I guess a lot of people dont know this, but come on he is a pro player...
Fun Fact: U can tell wether someone has a revive passive by the wings above their lvl next to their HP-Bar. Anivia egg does it, as well as Zac blobs and also GA. So there is no need to look at the actual champion model and the visuals rly shouldn't be a problem.
Its funny how actually Mikyx and Hyli are kinda feeling the same way about everything hahaha
riot should do all this on a special sever. it would be fun to see the the pros play with with all this
Riot: "so, pros spoke. We're buffing Camille, nerfing Udyr and removing QSS. They were right, those thing needs some changes"
Buff towers and baron/dragon (harder to kill)
Remove minion collision
Nerf mobility items (make dash slower or something)
Carzzy is being absorbed by that hair 🤣
tnx pro player now we have a gwen with 45.5 % of win rate WE LOVE YOU -.-"
Buff : Sylas and Rakan / Nerf : Kata and jungle in general / Remove : adc role (no brain op role)
Just imagine
Razork speaking facts about the damn Ocean drake... this thing is a pain in the ass
Removing Teleport would actually be a very interesting change.
Like why? So every toplaner picks ignite, have a dive jungler buddy and ruin your game?
Diving is already really easy, imagine if you couldnt tp back to lane or tp to botlane to atleast impact the game while enemy toplaner is trying to cheese you.
Toplaner is already the least popular role, imagine if it was even worse.
@@gamikhan9087 least popular? because they cry all day like adc doesnt mean its the least popular
@@necronom4792 statistically it is the least played role
@@necronom4792 and the least impactful role unless they get turbo fed like 10 kills in the laning phase
@@ercanoguzyldrm4499 least impactful yes but least popular is jg by far, riot trying so hard to bring new players in jg and is not even close
finally someone talking about how broken tryndamere is
None is talking about Stopwatch? Everyone buys that item without even building it to an upgrade! Would love to see the stopwatch duration get nerfed to 1.5 sec and keep the duration on zhonyas so that it will encurage you to upgrade the item.
In one hand i agree, in the other hand in a meta full of burst and assassins stopwatch is the only solution. So maybe the problem is another one
@@lowceyn2875 I would agree if tank supports wouldn't buy it, but they do :/
Just remove status effect completely. It's just something that shouldn't exist. Addition of that, things that blocks everything like Windwall or Gwen w type of things. Players should dodge skills, not block everything with one skill or become totally untouchable.
Rekkless is 100% right. Navori has insane potential for adcs like Kog kaisa or tristana but the item just sucks. Not only it is VERY expensive (3400) it also just doesn't provide the stats marksmen need. But there is a very simple solution for that - remove 30 ability haste, reduce ad from 60 to 25, add 25% AS, add 7% MS from zeal, keep the crit, and change the cost from 3400 to 2600 or 2700. For comparision, Mortal reminder gives the exact same stats AND a grevious wounds passive for just 2500.
I agree with BB and Bwipo, it seems like top laners have the best read on the health of the game. (im not a top laner btw, im an adc main so im not biased!) But i absolutely agree that teleport should be removed, its really unhealthy for the game because it becomes mandatory in 99% of situations. Bwipo is right on tanks as well, they're not supposed to do damage, so i dont get why tank items are always getting free damage put on them. as an ADC main, i want the enemy sion to be an unkillable wall that has CC. I dont want him to kill me. I want to have to avoid him because if I dont, he will CC me to death while his team kills me, not himself killing me. But tanks in league currently can just solo pretty much anyone.
Nobody:
Absolutely nobody:
Razork: Nerf Ocean Drake 😂
But on a more serious note from a jungler's pov the slow is really really annoying when you're trying to disengage / drop ago so I like where he's coming from
The thing about Gwen is... before the Riftmaker change/buff, she was pretty consistently received as mediocre or bad because her numbers were so low. Then Riot hotfixed her to increase her armor to just barely make her consistently mediocre and "maybe a good counterpick". It was only after the Riftmaker changes that she became as strong as she is now. I wonder if she would still be really powerful if Riot just reverted her hotfix...
5:22
no one:
Odoamne: Remove tp and nerf flash
of course adam will choose to buff darius
3:20 SÍ BROKENBLADE. Por eso te amo.