(117)The Galaxy Class, Early Design History
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- In today's episode of Truth OR Myth Beta, we're taking a look at the Galaxy Class, as first seen in Season 1 of Star Trek: The Next Generation, and it's early design history... I hope you enjoy!
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It took awhile for me to like the Enterprise D when TNG started but I feel it's a classic and deserves it's place in history ! Great job as usual looking forward to the next one!
Totally agree! I was the same way, and thank you :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics It took me awhile to accept the D but I've come not only accept but respect the class and its place in Star Trek history.
I still hate it, but in the good sort of way.
It's a sign of change to go from the D to the E and the other DS9 era ships. Star Trek was there at the start of Sci Fi in mainstream TV. Over the decades, things changed. Sci Fi grew up, ship designs became more angular, straighter, and less naive. Today, hard sci fi is in vogue with The Expanse. Star Trek is about as far as you can get from modern sci fi.
But, maybe that's not a bad thing. Trek has always evolved with the times. There's been highs and lows, and there are confusing times ahead. Trek should keep going, keep breaking ice for more shows, more media, hard and soft sci fi to find room to grow.
We shouldn't be afraid to embrace our silly saucers and spindly nacelles. The D looks diabolical to me, but that's good. Because it's so far removed from what I consider sensible that anything becomes possible.
Then again, I find the Mirandas to be nicer looking than the Constitutions. So maybe I'm just insane.
I would like to see a more "under the hood" breakdown of the Galaxy Dreadnought. We know about the third nacelle and the phaser lance, what else did they do to bring the class up to warship standards?
No worries, you'll get your Galaxy X Dreadnought video at some point ;)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics thanks. I'm interested to see what Starfleet learned from the Galaxies that were either severely damaged or lost.
My guess on the purpose of the third nacelle is to add asymmetry to the warp field, allowing greater maneuverability at warp speeds. Extremely important for the Galaxy Class ship as her powerful engines were designed for cruising more than combat. Fast maneuvers were not the Galaxy’s forte, something which the original designers didn’t see as a big issue, preferring to line the hull with strips of phaser arrays thereby nullifying the maneuverability disadvantage. The problem with the Dreadnaught class is the addition of the Phaser Lance. Integrating it into the hull limited off-bore shots, requiring that maneuverability be increased to ensure that the Galaxy could hit its targets. Thus the ungainly third nacelle that actually drops the efficiency of the warp engines in favor of rapid deformation of the warp bubble. i.e. She’s a ship that can turn and burn! At warp speed, no less!
I'd really love to see some media focusing on private starship builders or groups/organizations. I can't imagine that no one would think to build their own vessel - even if it was only about the size of a shuttle or runabout...
If the Galaxy Class was a sign of Starfleet hubris, then what did member worlds think of the larger Romulan Warbird D'deridex class?
A great question.
I think the difference is the D'deridex was an effective warship. The hubris on Starfleet's part wasn't in building a big ship, it's the belief that the need for having powerful warships to protect yourself had passed and we can have this golden age of exploration from here on out. The Galaxy was the size of battleship types of classes but it wasn't nearly as powerful as it could have been. It's understandable in the context of the time, the Klingons were allies which bottled up the Romulans. The Cardassians were a mere nuisance. The Dominion and Borg hadn't been discovered. They had no real enemy when it was being designed.
Still my number no 1 ship, beautiful from every angle
Aaah yes! the Galaxy Class! my favorrrrite class in all of Star Trek! I absolutely enjoyed when you explained that it was a ship built for and during a time of peace the Alpha/Beta Quadrant had while it was being built. most people tend to ignore that bit and just rant at how its a glass cannon which they are technically right but was also built when the Federation had no current enemies at the time.
I love the Galaxy Class it has to be my favourite star ship design, graceful yet powerful and full of optimism for the future.
Despite its Christmas turkey body (which I actually like) Enterprise D is definitely my all time favourite starfleet design.
With its role as a mainly scientific exploration vessel, amenities, carefully and intricately planned living, working, social spaces prioritizing the well being of all the species in any sense, it represent what SF aspires to be
As usual, your story format is excellent! I really enjoyed it!
When I first saw the Galaxy Class Enterprise, my first thought was, "Oh, god... I'd hate to have quarters in the bottom of the saucer section as the floor would be all window. Inspection of those quarters would be a nightmare.
LOL, I hear you! LOL
I love the Galaxy class, it was an awesome ship. And the Dominion war proved that it could absolutely kick butt when it was required to do so.
When it comes to the Galaxy Class its the war time version that does it for me
The Federation seems to always be unimpressed with their starships, despite them being either on par with, or outperforming all of their neighboring factions, with the exception of like the Borg and the Voth.
I love these videos.
I broke both legs in June and your content has helped me to remain sane during an otherwise boring recovery.
Thank you so much.
You are so welcome! And thank you for the support :) Glad I could be there for you, well my vids at least :)
This was the ship of my childhood, something that seemed just as real to me as the Space Shuttle!
thank you very much for this new Truth OR Myth BETA- The Galaxy Class, Early Design History
You're very welcome :)
I felt exactly the same as the fictional universe about the Galaxy Class. I did warm up to her eventually
You and me both Jeff!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I think as the story progressed and we saw her in action it
Became the “hero” ship! Truly an “Enterprise!”
Excellent video. Definitely been looking forward to this one. The Galaxy family will always be my personal favorites and is are some spectacular designs. Please cover the Nebula if you get a chance.👍
Thank you, and no worries, I will be :)
The Galaxy-class had to grow on me but I really learned to like it and the design style that came with it. These ships were supposed to be very impressive but story needs made them look much weaker than they were. Another excellent video and a great story for this class!
The Galaxy class ship was a great design but had a lot of design flaws plus exploding panels with rocks.
LOL I know right?
That comes as standard in all Starfleet vessels.
well it sure beats the oberth which just exploded at the slightest bump.
I've always liked the Galaxy class it's a really amazing looking Starship & the Dominion War refit is totally amazing
Most starship combat would be performed at out of visual range distances, but that's not as visually appealing as a 1/3 mile long galaxy class ship dogfighting as if we're a tiny fighter plane.
Fantastic job as always.
Thank you :)
I have only loved two bridges: Constitution's Red Rails, and Galaxy's Wooden Horseshoe. None of the other quite had that magic. Although Discovery came close.
These are the bridges that have a nice eyeline when you view from a wide angle.
To me; part of the design ideology for a long-range exploratory vehicle like the Galaxy class, was an attempt at a possible generational capital ship that can work for a LONG time without docking back at a starbase for repairs/refits, and resupplies. Until the Borg happened, pioneering exploration was at an all-time high in Starfleet. The alternate future Enterprise J was basically a super-sized version of the Galaxy Class "ideology" - it literally had a university or two inside it - I wouldn't even be surprised if it HAD a branch of Starfleet Academy within it as well in case some of the kids within wanted to sign up for a career in Starfleet.
In my opinion the Ambesador Class was ab back step form the Exelsior class.
In the video are so verry nice views form the Galaxy class it is a so imposant ship.
The Galaxy class can be named as a flying starbase.
i love your videos. I would like to see the Galaxy class dreadnought one day.
Nice update to the Galaxy Class video.
When we look at advances in starfleet ship design..Such as once powerful designs of their time like the excelsior and Miranda classes lasting well past original projections as a generic workhorse ship…I like to think that even with the various designs seen after the bog attack etc, that the galaxy class itself would live on as a general workhorse ship for centuries as well, the luxury aspect suiting well for transport of dignitaries, the immense interior space being viable for some refit as super carriers of cargo, or refit for massive bunk style cabins for colony establishment efforts and support…
Especially in the aftermath of the dominion war, the notion of a galaxy class going to a designated garden world to found a colony, running skeleton crew with refit interiors could conceivably carry all the materiel and personnel to get the colony going, something we already see in the second appearance of the crystalline entity, but to a less focused version of that task.
I look forward to the video in this series about project galaxy that covers the nebula class as well (unless I just missed it or was previously covered outside of this sub series)
Perhaps do one on La Forge's visor and the visual technology of the time. Even going into other things they were capable of seeing that we aren't.
I get the feeling they should've called it the Parton-class for obvious reasons. 😀
Love the videos bud. Hope ya have a good day:)
Thank you, and have a good day yourself :)
It was an interesting take on Starship design.
Awesome video
Thanks :)
Next Generation came out when i was a lad so I have a fondness for it. I'd love to see a TV series that actually shows all the unique features of the galaxy the never got put into play.
I like the galaxy class star ship.
Great video, I only have one thing to add
First!
Well 4th Actually :P But Still appreciate the support :)
I'd like to see a beta cannon episode on the proxima class starships..and a new version of the aforementioned proxima class...that.. would be a" Kick-Ass" star ship...
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and very well executed and informatively explained in every detail way shape and form possibly provided on all subjects of the Galaxy class starship's indeed, But my problem with the Class was how the saucer section primary hull dwarfed the secondary hull and the nacelles, Also for a ship that should have to go into battle having families and children on board isn't a very logical or very wise idea what so ever by putting them in jeopardy of getting killed or injured, I always found that to be a stupid premise by Starfleet for allowing that to be ok with in any way shape or form indeed!. Any ways I myself have a few of the Galaxy class models myself by Eaglemoss and various others as well by other companies and some model kits of it and various DVDs of the TNG TV show and all the movies as well...
Kirk: 'Spock?'
Spock(reading info on screen): 'As suspected, the videos are the product of a historian known as TriAngulum.'
Kirk: 'TriAngulum?'
Spock: 'Specifically beta-canon videos. They've been archived since at least the mid twenty-first century.'
Always felt that the Galaxy-class class became the B52 of Starfleet.
A reliable and easy to mod hull that you can do anything too without much issue.
Just need to trash the first generation of of Warpcores it had.
“Engineering to Captain Picard! Barkley stubbed his toe on the warp core. We’ve got an imminent warp core breach. I repeat, an imminent breach in 5 MINUTES! I’m sorry Captain, there’s nothing more I can do…” 😂
this was really interesting! what about a Beta Canon video on the USS Archimedes? I can't remember the class but it was in the S2 Finale of Lower Decks
Thank you, and no worries, once I get a 3d Model, a video about it will be made :)
Nice👍
Thanks ✌
more please 🙂
Noted :)
I wish the galaxy class be more proportional. The saucer section is so much bigger than its drive section.
I wish we saw exterior hatches for cargo bays
I saw them, didnt you? ;) :P
Galaxy class handles like an Earth School bus. Great on straight away, but can't turn on a dime. However, her pew pews will make sure the wee badies think twice on another strike.
She's built like a steak house but handles like a bistro
LOL
@@soknightsam lol she's that alright. not like fastfood vessels.
We get to the era of Picard, and the only Galaxy Class we see, is the nearly 40 year old Enterprise D.
Great video, did you add a little bit of your own imagination again to fill in the gaps?
I always do!
Next stop: Galaxy Class Dreadnough Edition (idk how to write this)
Honestly the best looking starship in star trek history imho
Well Im a Sovereign Guy! But I did love it's look in Star Trek: Picard :)
👍👍🖖
Oh i'm early
Well thanks for the support :)
I believe the Galaxy class represented Starfleet perfectly. One organization, two missions. With the Galaxy class; one ship with two missions. The saucer section was for peace with the drive section being for war.
I'm surprised they never just mass-produced engineering section-only Galaxies... drop all the superfluous systems...
Was probably a thought and i bet most of the anti borg fleet was created from that idea.
I know the actual reasons, but i would like to see her performance without the saucer section
The Love Boat!!.my bad I'm showing my age
She is indeed a big girl. Big and beautiful 😍
Yes she is!
Another great video. You touched very briefly on the refit version from All Good Things and have done Beta Canon videos on the Kelvin verse Constitution class. Would be great to see a Beta Cannon video about the dreadnought version of the Galaxy class, why it was refit in this way and why the Enterprise D received this refit. Or perhaps a Beta Canon video on the alternate history of the D after it narrowly escaped destruction at Veridian 3 and its time in the Dominion War and anything that may have lead to its dreadnought refit?
Well the Enterprise D didnt really receive the refit, that was a fake future created by Q, like Sherwood Forest... The Ent D was long destroyed by that point... And because it's a Beta Canon video, that takes place in the Prime Timeline, when I do the video, it will be about it's actual Beta Canon history, rather then a fake alternate timelines version... At least for now!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics ah.... it was worth a shot. Hahaha
Hey, I love the suggestion! So never worry about taking your shot, and one day, you may very well see that exact video :)
I don't care what anyone says. Most people think the sovereign class is cool I do. most people think the intrepid class is cool I do as well. "But the coolest class". Will always be the Galaxy class starship
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion! So keep loving the Class :)
First
Actually 8th, but still an achievement :) Thank you for the support :)
It can go even faster than 9.6....
There are two instances, one with the Traveler,
And the other when Lwaxana was on board :D
No one said it couldnt go faster then 9.6, but as the show actually said, 9.6 IS it's Emergency Maximum Speed :)
PS, Ba Doom Tsss ;) :P
I heard one lie in this entire video... The largest array of Shuttlecraft? Oh no, no, no. The Galaxy class has nothing on the Intrepid class on shuttle-bay capacity. The Galaxy class is downright pitiful in comparison. 🤣🤣🤣
The Intrepid class doesn't have that big of a shuttlebay, but they carry a ton of extra shuttles flat packed like ikea furniture so they can slap a new one together whenever they need too.
Question. If there were 1,000 personnel accommodated aboard a Galaxy class vessel including families who were not service personnel. Wouldn't this make the operating and scientific crew closer to 750 to 800?
Answer. Remember it's said the class was designed to be operated by about 100 Officers and Crew Members. Many times in the show however, we get crew numbers ranging from about 1100-1300... So that would be the additional families!
Still waiting for the Niagara Class and it's 3 Nacelles😁
Lol and youll keep waiting until I make/ release it :P
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I do Buddy I do.Keep up the good Work!
Thanks dude! Will do!
Why do you think they just didnt use the star drive section in the Dominion war?
Because of the Post Wolf 359 Refit made it a bigger powerhouse with the Saucer Section. Captains simply werent separating their ships as much as Starfleet thought they would! ;)
I'm guessing to retain the armaments of the saucer section
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I always felt that the saucer separation was a failed experiment as a combat tactic. It takes ages to transfer all the non-military personnel into the saucer and military personnel into the stardrive. Then you have to go through with the separation and leave the saucer behind. Because the saucer has no warp drive, it's now a sitting duck. These limitations make it impractical as a combat strategy unless you know well in advance that you are going into combat and are WAY out of sensor range of your enemy. Otherwise the enemy will just target the saucer instead.
If there was a big red button that engaged emergency transporters and beamed everyone on board to where they needed to be, and then the saucer was fitted with a secondary warp drive of it's own, even if a limited one, so it had the ability to flee, it MAYBE would be a more reasonable thing to do.
the ambassador class failure, so much so that it was still in service well into the domminion war. some failure.
the miranda and oberth were still in service for well over a hundred years but there was ample evidence both were completly useless. of course you get the feeling that starfleet was actually trying to kill some of its crews.
Sorry, but what episode or movie have you seen the Ambassador Class in during the Dominion War? Ill wait!
32 min ago
Huh?
Bulbous head,stubby nacelles, small body and warp core ejection system that never worked...I give the design a 'D'
Never liked the look of this version of the enterprise nor the glass canon esthetic!
It looked pretty good from the side, but every other angle was awkward. It always seemed really fragile as well, the systems needed most going offline after 1 or 2 shielded hits
I still dont like the fact that the saucer is so wide compared to its length.
Theatre's... you really pronounced it as you did? 🤣🤣
Yes, because thats how its pronounced here... Also I dont require your services as the pronunciation police, this channel is doing great without you ;) :P
The Galaxy Class experiment was a failure, just as the Ambassador was. This is why the ship design did a complete 180 after the Galaxy's vulnerabilities were exposed. I don't even think it would've been included in the fleet museum if it wasn't for Geordi.
You need to re-think your opinion on the Ambassador class
No I dont, and wont be! Its how it is, you just need to learn to accept the truth ;)
And as soon as they created the tricorder playmates toy I bought one when I stripped it so it was Hollow and I put lights and electronics and sound in it because I had to have one and I have to admit it was cool and I was surprised I actually did it my friend David at the time was jealous or envious and wanted his own but I wouldn't tell him what I bought or used as components from other things to make it work LOL
I'm so biased I basically have the feeling I grew up mostly on a Galaxy class starship because that's when the next Generation came out was when I was in my teens and so it became very comfortable place for me to never actually have visited and so it is my favorite ship and I know a lot of people would disagree but it is it's like home in a way it was my Escape and I loved the technology that had been created it was all so very interesting ISO linear Optical dated chips for my like awesome cool thing back then lol,