Another great informative video. Thank you! Great to see that ModelFlight here in Australia is now importing Precision Aerobatic models. I'm sure they will sell well.
Pa owner here, you don't see many of these because they are worse at almost everything compared to an extremeflight or like brands. PAs ideology is to be as light as possible, but that isn't ideal for modern day 3D so nobody buys them.
@@evanwhittaker5287 absolutely true! PA just focuses on wing loading, but theres more to that when it comes to 3d and aerobatic perfomance. I like to talk about overall volume to weight ratio, including evereything instead (wing, fuselage and control surfaces) which most often gives you a better picture of how well a 3d airframe behaves. The fuselages of all these PA airframes are just too small, too skinny and most importantly do not have enough side area. Side area helps a lot in high alpha stability and rudder authority. Michael in this video talks a lot about how awesome knive edge performance is with these PA Airframes, but thats easy with a top notch pilot at the sticks and no other (better) airframe in comparison. Another thing you have to recognise with all of PA's bragging about building the lightes airframes: It's not because of their superior construction, but - again -because their fuselages are just TINY when compared to their competition with the same wingspan. For example, put a 60inch EF bird next to a 60inch PA Katana and you'll immediately see the difference. The katana would be dwarved by the EF plane. And the bigger plane would simply fly bigger as well. Bigger and better! PA planes aren't bad, not at all. They are very light and very floaty, high quality built as well. But That's it more or less. Other planes are simply better overall packages, especially when it comes to high energy 3d and precision aerobatics (ironically that's what actually may be one of PA's airframes biggest weakpoints). And some of them don't even lack in terms of being floaty as well ;)
@florianN132 that's exactly it, every time I fly my XR61 it truly humbles me because of how much influence wind has over it. That in combination with almost every maneuver feeling uncanny takes away from the experience a lot.
nothing in it - they look and more importantly "feel" exactly the same in a half decent pair of hands. Showstopper: a guy who has a regular Pilot-RC or EF plane can fly in most conditions, the PA owner will take the covers off on the calm days if he doesnt want to get his arse blown all over the place - precision flying with Precision Aerobatics - forget about it! Having said that, I have the XR61, the once ubiquitous Addiction, Addiction XL, their Extra260 and the XR61 love them all, BUT only on the "right" days, which in the British summer, means I can enjoy their floaty low wing loading only 3 days of the year :). If it wasn't for my Pilot-RC planes I'd be at home ticking off the wife's never ending list of chores....
Another great informative video. Thank you! Great to see that ModelFlight here in Australia is now importing Precision Aerobatic models. I'm sure they will sell well.
Interesting. I bought a Katana 60 last year. Shall fly it this summer, with a brushless. Hope I will like it.
Don’t see many PA planes at the field?
Pa owner here, you don't see many of these because they are worse at almost everything compared to an extremeflight or like brands. PAs ideology is to be as light as possible, but that isn't ideal for modern day 3D so nobody buys them.
@@evanwhittaker5287 absolutely true! PA just focuses on wing loading, but theres more to that when it comes to 3d and aerobatic perfomance. I like to talk about overall volume to weight ratio, including evereything instead (wing, fuselage and control surfaces) which most often gives you a better picture of how well a 3d airframe behaves.
The fuselages of all these PA airframes are just too small, too skinny and most importantly do not have enough side area.
Side area helps a lot in high alpha stability and rudder authority. Michael in this video talks a lot about how awesome knive edge performance is with these PA Airframes, but thats easy with a top notch pilot at the sticks and no other (better) airframe in comparison.
Another thing you have to recognise with all of PA's bragging about building the lightes airframes: It's not because of their superior construction, but - again -because their fuselages are just TINY when compared to their competition with the same wingspan.
For example, put a 60inch EF bird next to a 60inch PA Katana and you'll immediately see the difference. The katana would be dwarved by the EF plane. And the bigger plane would simply fly bigger as well. Bigger and better!
PA planes aren't bad, not at all. They are very light and very floaty, high quality built as well. But That's it more or less. Other planes are simply better overall packages, especially when it comes to high energy 3d and precision aerobatics (ironically that's what actually may be one of PA's airframes biggest weakpoints). And some of them don't even lack in terms of being floaty as well ;)
@florianN132 that's exactly it, every time I fly my XR61 it truly humbles me because of how much influence wind has over it. That in combination with almost every maneuver feeling uncanny takes away from the experience a lot.
Xr61 vs xr61t
nothing in it - they look and more importantly "feel" exactly the same in a half decent pair of hands. Showstopper: a guy who has a regular Pilot-RC or EF plane can fly in most conditions, the PA owner will take the covers off on the calm days if he doesnt want to get his arse blown all over the place - precision flying with Precision Aerobatics - forget about it! Having said that, I have the XR61, the once ubiquitous Addiction, Addiction XL, their Extra260 and the XR61 love them all, BUT only on the "right" days, which in the British summer, means I can enjoy their floaty low wing loading only 3 days of the year :). If it wasn't for my Pilot-RC planes I'd be at home ticking off the wife's never ending list of chores....