Hand Engraving 101 - Graver Sharpening for Beginners
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- In this episode we'll discuss 3 different graver sharpening methods and teach you what a properly sharpened graver looks like. I'll demonstrate baic graver sharpening by hand with bench stones. Using the Crocker graver sharpening jig and finally the GRS Apex Dual Angle sharpening fixture that will take all the guesswork out of creating sharp gravers of different geometries. We'll look at standard and parallel heels and how to create them.
In future episodes we'll discuss other sharpening methods, and different gravers and geometries and their use.
Here are some links to the GRS Tools that I use if you are interested. Buy purchasing through Amazon you help support the channel. And most of these links include free shipping. Thanks!
The sharpener/hone you see in this video is the old version of the GRS Powerhone available here:
www.amazon.com/GRS-Tools-001-...
The GRS Apex Dual Angle Sharpening fixture is a wonder tool for the experienced engraver and beginner alike:
www.amazon.com/GRS-003-760-Ap...
This is the graver I recommend to beginners:
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I use GRS Quick Change Collets. They fit the Apex fixture.
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This handle set is my favorite for hand push and they accept the quick change collets
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The Crocker sharpener Is an old standby:
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I use the GRS Gravermax G8 Pneumatic engraving unit. It's robust and has room for up to 3 different tools at once. And GRS customer service is outstanding.
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The GRS Standard Block handles 99% of all my work holding tasks and I"ve used the same tool for decades.
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For larger work i recommend the GRS Magna Block
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If you are interested but don't know where to start this is the only "how to manual" of hand engraving available until my new book is published. And you'll wait a few years for that one.
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To see more of my work or to inquire about commissions visit my website at www.southerncustomengraving.com
If you need further information on graver sharpening, I highly suggest purchasing:
The experts Guide to Gravver Sharpening by Sam Alfano. You can find it on DVD at GRS Tools or directly from Sam at www.masterengraver.com
I use two microscopes in the shop. The Leica A60 and the Meiji EMZ5. Here's a link to the LeicaA60 with free shipping:
www.amazon.com/GRS-003-657-Ac...
The Meiji is a fantastic zoom scope that will last a lifetime. It's available here at a great price with the proper stand for an engraving bench. Shipping is free through this link last i checked.
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If you don't want to use a turntable the GRS Positioning vise will allow working under a scope while maintaining center of rotation
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Master Engraver TV uses Panasonic G7 cameras and Rode Microphones. Available as a bundle through at Amazon.
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I am the beginner you are talking about. This is exactly what I needed. Thank you.
After looking for tutorials to learn first steps to start with engraving, I spent around one month watching videos that did not teach me how to actually prepare the gravers. So I did what you explained, as a student I bought several gravers and I didn't know they were unprepared, I started trying to engrave and they would get stuck in the metal sheets while my pressure and frustration augmented as rockets to the sky :) so now I understand why that was. I needed to prepare the gravers! my God, thank you for a great video :) I will watch all the others you may have.
Always love this in-depth information. Thank you Mr. Zuelke.
OMG. I really appreciated this upload and can't wait for the next upload that discusses... different gravers and geometries and their use. Than you.
Thank you so much for sharing you knowledge. I have shared several of you videos with my jewelry classes
Absolutely wonderful teacher and video! Thank you so much for uploading this.
Thank you very much for the advice. I am grateful for good instructions.
Your engraving is next level and your videos are becoming on par! Best tutorials out there on the net. You're setting the standard my friend!
Please keep up the videos! I appreciate them. I did just buy a handful of gravers and I wold like to learn more! Thanks
Absolutely Epically Awesome Tutorial!!!
I should add that the gravers I use here are made from blank stock. I'll do a second tutorial later on sharpening traditional push gravers but the idea is still the same and the resulting heels look the same.
thank you for the tutorial, Could you give us paralell heels angels for GRS sharpening system. Gravers like 90 105 120 Thank you
@@TheDrMoroz 15 degrees is the angle for any heel regardless of geometry
Master Engraver TV what type of steel can you make gravers out of?
thank you!!!
I am getting started with push graving, as well as hammer and chisel (For now. An air graver would be wonderful when finances permit). I will be buying A GRS positioning vise, GRS S.A. Hammer and Chisel kit, and GRS Push Graver with QC collets. I guess one major question I have is what gravers to add to the mix for a beginner? The Kit comes with a bunch of tapered flat gravers and a 90 degree RFF point. Should I be getting a couple Onglettes and broader RFF points? I know eventually I can make my own, but I would like a decent starter set so that while I am reading and watching videos I will have the tools I need on hand. One big order beats many smaller ones. Thank's for your time!
Thank you very much! I'm ordering my first set of graver bits and you helped a lot!
Thank you, my first three gravers arrived today and you just took all the fear and intimidation out of sharpening them!
GREAT DIRECT INFO WHICH TOOK A LOT OF THE MYSTERY OUT OF SHARPENING< GREAT INSIGHT!
Can't thank you enough for the options in the tutorial. I'm such a beginner that I haven't a clue what to purchase to complete the project I have started. This helped me a lot.
Nice. I'm a complete beginner an this is one of the most helpful videos iv found! Thank u, big thumbs up from Ireland 👍
Excellent explanations. Thank you!
Fantastic information, Layne! Great and very clear explanation of something we see people struggle to understand. Thanks for making this!
Christopher Correll thanks Chris and thanks also for all you do on your end. Glendo is lucky to have you.
I've been looking at gravers for a purple of years now and I am almost ready to bite the bullet on a budget setup. This helped me a lot in that I can now see a realistic setup for my megre setup. IMS super happy I clicked on this.
Thank you for this education Lane!
Thanks this was just what I needed to understand graver geometry a little more.
I haven't watched 5 minutes yet and I already learnt quite a bit. Subscribing right now!
Thank you very much. What an excellent tutorial.
I ran into a problem with a new graver that splintered up the spine when I was doing a 4 pt star setting...this video helped me enormously so I could repair my graver by hand with a diamond plate. Thank you!
Thank you kindly for this great instructional video. Heeding your advice I just ordered a Crocker sharpener and I will attempt my hand at engraving metal.
Thanks for show this tips!
I always appreciate you info have a nice day!
Thank you very much for this tutorial.
This was informative and very useful. Thanks so much!
Great tutorial, thanks for sharing
Very good information! Thank you
Very interesting....I never thought about shaping and sharpening ‘gravers’....by ‘engravers’....👍🏻
Thanx pretty much for your shown how ever it's done
Awesome video, sir. Thank you.
Can't tell you how much this video means to Me. Thank you very much!. From the Buckeye State. Walter Van Cleave
Great video, thanks for sharing.
Very clear and concise. Thank you.
Love your videos. Thank you so much.!!!!
That is a really good explanation that can’t find on others channels just found it out
I did subscribed , like it , sharing , and activate the bell thank you for sharing
This was great! Thank you
Great vid, pure teaching at it’s best ,I’ve been in the jewellery trade for 50 years and yet I’m still learning .Thanks so much.
You are an exceptional teacher. By far the best video of this type I have ever seen on RUclips. And I am looking for such a clean and comprehensive information for a very long time.
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thank you so mach for sharing you knoledge,excellent explanations.Thank You
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Great video!
Beautiful work brother
Great video video.
Nice video Lane!
lol love the ball vise and whiteboard
Thx, ive watched this a few times these last few years, its hard to get a handle on all the info out there, but it does come together.slowly!!..few things , for me, im into hand push, the wedge heel as i call it, is better for hand push, the parallel , as with the, templates designed for etc, are really for air assist, but not hand push, a wedge heel not short but say medium, has no issues with heel drag, and cuts well...one more, i was lucky to pick up a load of 2mm square carbide at a good price, (ground to missed tolerances, from Germany )so i use this...ive found the direction of the hone makes a difference, one makes more tip fails, going into the graver, the other doesnt perhaps the former causes some micro fractures, that eventfully get exposed..im not sure..luving this journey!!
Thanks you so much for video.
Really great start to finish tutorial.
You guys both make it look so easy
Muy bueno, Gracias!
Thank you so much for your video it is very informative " thank you.
Buen video, maestro, saludos desde México México.
Very interesting
Thank you very much 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Nice explanation
Great vid
Excellent video, explaining how to get the correct angles and why they’re needed
The Bergeon 2462 watchmakers screwdriver sharpening tool works really well with a little practice…expensive, but many cheaper copies available
Great information, Thank You
David, Argentimagination Jewelry
Very cool.
Thanks so much!
Thanks a bunch.
this was perfect
I'm just learning about gravers and engraving and this was an excellent tutorial. I'm wondering if the GRS tool would work with a stone (rather than the turntable) by moving it back and forth on the stone on the bench top like you did with the Crocker?
Thanks !
thank you!!
I just wanted to let you know that I've been studying Engraving for awhile and you have answered so many questions. Thank you so much.
Frank
Sharp tools are the best
Спасибо за урок !
Great videos as usual, as a suggestion though you should include a close up of a before and after of each of the gravers so people can see the differences. Maybe post that as a screen shot on RUclips?
I included close ups of each graver at the end of each sharpening session. The only difference between before and after is you are starting with a square or round piece of stock.
I recall watching You teach a few computers ago. I kept them in My favorites, maybe I can find the lessons in this "latest computer". I'll keep these lessons as best I can, I have Your name and Master Engraver TV. Yup,.
Interesting stuff,I see a Elliott SL lathe 😀 too
Thank you sir. I would like to ask I have 2 air engraving chisel that doesn't work was wondering what to look for if they stopped working. Thank you
good video, and as a side note, woodworkers call that "doorstop" a honing angle guide, as their version handles all kinds of chisels/carving/turning tools, simmilar sharpening method; and the great thing is it removes variabillity of human movement in the sharpening process. one product you could use is a "belt sharpener", like woodturners use for their chisels, as this stops overheating the steel, and also has jigs for maintaining cutting profiles on the tools, no matter what it is, knife, scisors, axes called a "tormach" machine, and would be a lot cheaper than having to buy what amounts to a gem faceting machine to sharpen the tools.
I thank you for doing so detailed videos they are helping so much I have noticed in one of your carvings background it looks like tiny balls instead of the stippling you have shown I am wondering if you can show how to do it please
It's done with a beading tool. They come from jewelers supply houses.
Subbed. Thank you
I had to stop back to tell you thank you! I'm a complete novice and am actually trying this for a project that I'd like to put a monogram on a reproduction 18th century tin document box. Followed your example here with a preshaped 105 and a crocker. Totally nervous that I'd screw it all up. You could not imagine my excitement when I saw that teeny, tiny little curl of tin appear as I attempted a straight line!!! (Tho' the line wasn't so straight for hand push... will try sharpening a flat this weekend to attempt a wriggling look.) Thanks for the lessons & examples!!
kukrae fo keep in mind engraving takes an enormous amount of practice. It took me two years to become proficient enough with a hand push graver to do quality lettering. Patience is key.
@@MasterEngraverTV I truly understand!! This particular idea has a deadline of the end of March :) Me and my bright ideas that won't leave me alone until I attempt it. But even after, I won't be giving it up! I really enjoyed trying it. Tamara...
do you have a video using the Steve Lindsay templates for sharpening?
As I was watching this I saw the clouds separate and the Angel Choir was singing the Hallelujah chorus! Thanks so much. Love the GRS dual angle sharpening guide but doesn't that necessitate buying the rotary sharpening machine with the three wheels?
Yes
Super video thank you.
Could you possibly advise what grade sharpening stone I should purchase for some 2.5mm square gravers please?
Heck, you could use the concrete on the floor. A fine stone and rougher stone should suffice.
So glad to have found your videos/channel. For those of us with the GRS single angle graver sharpening fixtures (which I’ve been using for near 20 years now) would you be willing to do a demo on heel making/sharpening? I do my silver and copper work small scale and have yet to make the expenditure to get the dual angle fixture or any of the S. Lowrie (sp?) jigs, so, a nice run through with the less expensive gear would be appreciated by a good many of us (pretty sure it’s not just me). Thank you very much, awesome work!
Widgets-widgets absolutely. I have one in the shop and I’ll include it in episode 2 of sharpening which will also feature the Lindsay template system
Master Engraver TV many thanks, also for the name correction w/Mr. Lindsay (wow how I want all of his equipment). I’ll be looking forward to seeing part 2.
Hope you have a grand day.
What's the fiddle and banjo tune at the beginning? When I heard that, I knew I'd like the video.
thanks amazing :D
Genial!!!
These sharpening techniques apply to other types of gravers such as flat and onglette? Would you change anything for other materials such as hard woods or mother of pearl?
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I have noticed that there is alot of preference/variation in heel and face angles. How do I know what angle works for me? What is the optimal outcome?
Also, if working on a larger piece, would a larger heel be required?
Lastly, does everything need to be level when sharpening ( table, stones, etc )?
I WOULD LOVE LEARN SOME BEGINNING TECHNIQUE WITH THE GRAVE MAX?
Will it sharpen an ongolet craver also
Hello where you can buy for xheap carbide blanks 3mm?
Hi Mr Zuelke, love your videos please tell us about your mini lathe in the background it looks great for small metal projects what type is it, would love a video :)
Tusk Bilasimo
Looks like an Unimat
Looks like an Emco Unimat, Model SL:) I have one of those oldies. Still great.
Layne,
Your channel is great, and your work is fantastic. I was wondering why you didn't include the Lindsay sharpening templates hanging on your wall in the video. There's no adjustments to make, except graver length, so sharpening errors are very hard to make.
Too much to add in one video. I'll do a standalone review of the Lindsay templates in a separate video in the future.
@@MasterEngraverTV Thanks Layne. I like that Crocker fixture. I'll have to get one and add degree wheels to it.
this is an amazing tutorial! I loved it! only one comment. The run out on the coarse wheel was painful to watch.
I would like to inquire about the second way of the sharpener fixture, its name or the way to buy it thank you
hello, that's nice! can you teach me how engrave tiny letters?
When you were touching up the 105 at the end what grit were you using? 260/600/1200? And on the face touch up with a broken tip I assume you just take the face back far enough to remove the damaged area?
shawndrogoff you are correct. It only takes a second to dress the face past the fissure in the point. The wheel on my motor is 1200. But the edge has been worn down to around 8000 or so with another diamond lap so I have two grits in the same wheel.
Mr. Zuelke, thank you for a great tutorial on graver sharpening. I've recently subscribed to your channel in hopes of bettering my own engraving skill set. I've a question if you've the time, please. I've found that carbide gravers help to extend times between graver geometry touch ups while engraving. I use a ceramic wheel to grind my heels, but I'm curious about your technique when applied specifically on carbide to create heels. I most commonly use a 105 carbide for my work, so your advice and thoughts would be greatly appreciated. By the way, GEAUX TIGERS! I live in Gonzales, I'd love to spend an afternoon talking if you've ever the time. Thank you in advance!
There is no difference between carbide and HSS with sharpening techniques. Ceramic with diamond spray is perfect for polishing heels if that's what you want. I rarely polish heels though because most of my work gets inked and a polished cut wont hold ink as well. I only use polished heels when I'm cutting a gun to be blued and I want cuts to sparkle.
Thank you sir!
I am a, soon to be 78 year old hoby engrever. I need to know what ink, is used to darken the engraving. Thank you so much for vidos! You are a great help.
Michael Scott most of us use Flat or Satin Krylon. I use Krylon sidewalk striping paint. The formula is tougher. Flood the work, wipe the excess and then wipe with a stiff paper dampened with thinner after its dried to remove the rest of the film.
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Hello! Are you aware of some website in the EU that sells those v-gravers? For whatever reason I find that extremely difficult to find. Same for the ones used for woodcuts (not the gauges but rather the flat pointed ones). Cheers!
This video helped me restore the lot of gravers from the late 1800's! I wouldn't have trusted anyone else to help me restore these beautiful handheld graver tools!