Aquaponic Mineralization tank UPDATE!
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- Here's an update on the mineralization tank system along with some laboratory test results!
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0:00 Intro
0:30 Looking back at some changes
2:00 Adding a new airlift
2:37 Explaining how the airlift works
4:50 Installing the airlift
8:09 Few last changes
9:15 Checking the performance
13:05 Testing the water
14:30 Lab results
15:43 Outro 
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good morning I'm an organic farmer from Koh Samui, Thailand. I've been interested for years. Thank you for making us look at it as a guideline. I will use the knowledge I have. adapt to what you have been taught To make it an aquaponics standard you have made as a guide. Thank you and wish you happiness and good health 🙏♥️🇹🇭
great to get an update on the bioreactor. Looks to be doing a great job!
Good job explaining the functional process
been a long wait for this update... nice to see the charts with the nutrient values..
I appreciate that your designs are maintainable. I made a similar air pump (idea from the internet of course) but made it using glued PVC fittings. Hogging out the 'stop' from a 3" PVC fitting (as was suggested on the net) was much more difficult than your method of using the rubber reducer. Once again, excellent use of off the shelf parts, creating a device that can be disassembled and maintained if needed. BTW, got my first shipment of GrowGrips today. Looking forward to using them. Kudos.
I saw a big air lift done for a natural swimming pool and they used the couplings...so i can't take credit for the idea. ;-) Enjoy the GrowGrips!
Greatly explained and built
About the angle, the center of a stream/river always travels the fastest due to friction at the edges. So aiming toward the center will act on the part of the water with least resistance.
Great design. I use compost worms to help keep the waste down in my growbeds and I drain my swirl filter for 10 seconds every day.
Thank you so much, from vietnam.
YOURE A CHAMP! Mechanical engineer here - I love the creative designs and your whole planet-friendly work. Let me know if you need a part 3D printed. If it's small I'll CAD it up for you and there are low-cost print shops all over. A few bucks can get you a lot of things you cant solve with off-the-shelf parts.
I have 2 FDM and 2 SLA printers. Plus a laser cutter and CNC machine. 😉
Seems you have already figured the mineralization process will cost more than just reusing the sludge for another application or selling it & putting the minerals back via more direct methods.
There are millions of ways you could use the sludge in addition to spreading it on fields for fertilizer as you showed. One of the ideas we are working with is creating worm compost beds that will later feed fowl (Japanese Quail, chickens, & so on) as well as feeding other fish. Other possibilities are growing mushrooms as well.
Ultimately I think teh extra plumbing, tanks, airlines, & the energy use for the compressor are going to be much more expensive than reusing elsewhere or selling.
It is very interesting seeing how you would use a mineralization system though :D
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Looking at your air pump, when mine like that failed I upgraded to a smallish Gast regenerative 'blower' style (vs the oversized aquarium pump/septic aerator with the rubber diaphragms as you have). The regenerative blower produces lots more air volume that may be useful in the future for aerating beds, but be advised that it has trouble creating enough pressure to blow deeper than 18" down from the surface. My previous 'aquarium' pump style would push air to the bottom of my 42" tank. The regenerative pumps don't have the 60 cycle 'hum' noise (I don't like noise) .....but they can sometimes have a high pitched whine (mine does).
that's the main reason I don't use a regenerative pump....the high pitch whine drives me crazy.
I'm pleased to see you go with the "dual chamber" air lift.
It moves a substantially larger volume of water with a air pump that uses about 60w.
It would be interesting to see a flow diagram of the path your water/solids take throughout your system.
Also, I was wondering if you could maybe squeeze a trompe into the system somehow, to provide the air supply for the air lift pumps on the remineralisation tank?
The older build videos I did a couple of years ago shows the general design for this setup. I think trompe would not generate enough air flow with such little water flow through the system.
I dont know if you invented this setup or not, but I have seen a few inline mineralization setups in the videos, so you've definitely started something!
I probably can't take the credit for inventing it. I had never seen one before, but I've been told they've been around for a while.
@@Bigelowbrook its venturi style, sort of :D
Fascinating work! Do you have a plan for analyzing the monetary cost of the mineralization tank like you have done for other equipment in your system? Perhaps the cost of electricity used (air compressor) per unit of nutrient vs the cost of raw nutrient (i.e. fish food).
Probably when I have the greenhouse fully running so I can check it while it's under full load. My initial thought is it's not worth the cost to put the nutrients back in and I could sell the "compost tea" for a higher profit and just buy the supplemental nutrients. However the purists don't like to hear that because they think it's not as sustainable🙄...
@@Bigelowbrook It's not like the nutrients would go to waste if you sold them as a high quality AquaFuel (trademark??) product! Considering how much people sell worm tea for you could potentially make it rather profitable. Not to mention you have the lab test to show what the chemistry is. Can't wait to see what you do, good luck!
Curious if you could throw decaying plant matter into the mineralization tank.....and if snails would be useful in there too.
Nice work! Thanks for the mineral tank info. Did you have to cut out the center main pipe since you already had holes drill in it’s side for water and gas exchange? Could you have just slid everything up from the sliding valve intersection? Maybe more holes in main pipe would have been needed but then leaving it continuous would be less dependency on the rubber skirts?
The original pipe didn't have any holes in it. I suppose I could have not cut the section out and left it as one long piece and just drilled the holes in the original and slid everything into place. However, I wasn't sure how large/small the holes should be or how many. I got lucky on the first try.
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Make sure your swirl goes in the direction your hemisphere drains! Meaning the direction of how your water drains from a sink is the direction you should swirl your tank. Northern hemisphere goes clockwise, Southern hemisphere goes counter clock wise. If you go in the opposite direction it will increase resistance to swirl. Coriolis effect is from Earth's rotation effect.
coriolis effect. It's to insignificant to make any difference for something like this.
where to get those cone shape tanks and how much do they cost?
we appreciate your update. after removing the 6" pipe in the middle of your mineralization tank , did you still retain your 1'" drain out of your growbed?
The pipe is still there because I didn't feel like removing it and it's just capped off now. The only way the water leaves now is from draining it into the buckets.
So since you nh4 is way higher after mineralization, do you feed the outlet back into the bioreactor?
Hi, how do u do it to move such an amount of water with an air pump. Can u show us please.
How many holes in a 2 inch pipe? Its just a line or all aroud de pipe?
Try flipping the swirl direction. The rotation of the earth gives rise to an effect that tends to accelerate draining water in a clockwise direction in the Northern hemisphere and counterclockwise in the Southern.
The coriolis effect is insignificant on something of this size.
Why not make a hole in the pipe you had in the first place and connect the air tube? Is it some sort of venturi what you eventually did?
I'm guessing the water has a huge effect on temperatures and thermal energy storage especially in cold weather? Love to hear your experience on temperatures in hot and cold weather?
Thanks so much for the video - working on our own system now and this is the best design I've ever come across for solid waste management. With the removal of the stilling well in the middle of the tank, does that remove the only outlet to the grow beds? Is the objective then just to cycle the water in the mineralization tank until you drain the 10 gal which gets returned to the vortex settler? Once removed, do you leave the valve open between the settler and the MT to equalize the water level?
yes, the outlet has been removed so the only way to drain water is through the bottom. I keep the valve between the tanks closed so the water level remains uneven. Then once or twice a day I open it for about 10 seconds which flushes any of the solids in the radial flow settler over to the MT.
@@Bigelowbrook thank you, much appreciated! One more question: how large are the conical bottom tanks you use, and who is your supplier? I'm in Ontario, Canada and I haven't been able to find these specific tanks
@@lukeridgway1887 These came from Ace Rotomolding
How much food do you grow out of this system? I think you showed an Excel sheet before but it looks like you have not scaled up? Great update!
It's not fully running....too many other projects going that actually pay the bills. ;-)
Hi there!
Really like your videos!
But I wonder though does the mineralization tank & Radial Flow Settler will have some smells? like Fishy smells?
I really want to try aquaponics but at home scale (maybe indoor) but I do think it will not be nice if it makes the whole house smells...
Does anyone have any ideas?
How is the present mineralization tank connect to the main water line?is it still like it did before skimming the good water little by little through a 1/4” hole? Or can you explain it me how please? I copy all your ideas into my basement aquaponic system,and thanks for your knowledge.
the tank no longer directly drains into the main line. The only way to drain the tank is draining it into the buckets like I show in the video. Thanks!
Where did you get your 1350 gallon fish tanks from, do you have a website or link where to buy them format? Thanks
These are from Ace rotomolding. If you look them up, theirs site will provide a list of distributors.
Great!!
Just a line of holes?
yes. I didn't measure them but I think they're 1/16" holes about every 1/4". I didn't feel like taking it apart to see what I did. 😉
@@Bigelowbrook Do you know how much air is going through the holes? It looks as if the top and bottom connections are just dry joints and I wonder whether the air is taking the path of least resistance out the top joint.
I think it's probably worth it to remineralize. Food is expensive, probably would save money with some solar.
Hi Sir. Nice work!
Some questions:
1. Will the fish poop eventually get decomposed in the mineralization tank?
2. Water from the mineralization tanks is poured back to sump tank or to the biological tank?
1) it will if it's in there long enough but I usually remove some and put it on some of my soil-based plants. 2) I usually put it into my media bed so it can capture any solids that may still be floating in the water
I heard someone say that vinegar unclogs airstones.
Where do you get tanks that are shaped like that? I'm trying to figure out how to do something like this in my back yard without spending hundreds...
You will spend many, many hundreds on these tanks. ;-) look up Ace Rotomolding.
What's your thoughts on sand ponics or iavs????
I haven't tried it
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Big fan of your work. If you want to really dive into the rabbit hole of water flow, look into the work of Viktor Schauberger, known colloquially as the Nikola Tesla of Water. He has a lot of very intriguing designs and ideas about water flow and movement.
Does adding that small amount back to the system dilute the mineral concentration to an irrelevant amount or do the plants use such small amounts of those minerals that they actually help?
I was wanting to reintroduce water from a mineralization tank into my system as well (now that I see these results lol), but I feared that it would either be toxic to the fish or it would get so diluted that the plants wouldn't really notice it. What are your thoughts?
Did you by chance test the water going to your plants to see if the water being added back is giving them more nutrients?
It seems like there's a lot of up and down out there about this, with no specifics regarding aquaponics. I may make things easy on myself and just use the water from the mineralization tank to top feed my dual root zone plants and mix in some crushed oyster shell to help buffer the pH.
Love your videos! Look forward to your thoughts, and thanks in advance. You, bright agrotech, and Rob have taught me all I know (well the relevant and practical knowledge) and I have a successful system thanks to you guys. Now I'm at the point where I want to reduce power consumption and waste.
BTW I totally stole the top drain into the RFF that you did. But that system isn't running yet, so no comment on if I like it better than the bottom drain into the RFF yet.
Adding it back in is insignificant...but it makes people think that it helps. ;-)
@@Bigelowbrook So, it's probably best to use it as a stand alone fertilizer, yeah? Thanks for the response, hope all is going well!
Do you have a background in engineering? Thanks I really enjoy your videos
Yes I do!
@@Bigelowbrook no wonder! Gifted with a bright mind. Best wishes and take care
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This looks soo familiar and seems so 2016. 😂😂😜
There you are.....👍
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@@mattolsson8816 i sent you an email. Bough a farm. Have a great 200m² barn now. Next step rainbow trout RAS. It will be good to catch up with you Squire.
@@barrypeters5136 that is awesome.. I will try to find that email.. Not sure which email you used.. :)
why worry about putting the sludge back in? just feeding the fish reintroduces whatever minerals you take out during cleaning doesn't it?
Most of the trace minerals are still in the sludge. If you can break it down it's far better for the system.
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