Lol… as someone who has pet rats they don’t even portray pet rat care properly- poor Sunshine’s in a really abusive setup. Tiny tank? Wire wheel? Setting up that rat to break her feet and get respiratory infections from the lack of ventilation in glass cages, not to mention the lack of any friends- rats are social animals and quite literally have to be kept in pairs or groups or else it’ll severely impact their health.
I noticed that to it looks like they got everything from a pet store and got the ones for The rats and they got this bad cage And it's super duper tiny And there's no friends for the rats but rats are very very social
@@theharvinator what do you expect they just kill all the animals they get and this stuff is propaganda they spread to distract the public from the truth i doubt they actually care about animals
So wait, Sam says that Sunny escaped from a college that was experimenting on animals? How would he know that? All he knows is that his dad found a rat. Sounds like Sam is lying for attention.
A high percentage of the time a person that knew what to look for could easily tell if it was a lab animal... there also the obvious that he could have been involved in the experiments and/or the removal of the animal from the experimenters group.
PETA presents animal cruelty as if it occurs because many people get a thrill out of torturing animals just for the sake of it. That doesn't lead to fighting cruelty effectively, because lack of information means attention isn't being focused on changing the actual circumstances that cause it. While there's a place for spurring people to action, shock value stuff like this is just going to lead to people flailing and outraged but not helping.
Also, saying "oh anyone who hurts animals is doing it because they're evil" makes people less likely to recognize animal abuse. Like, people will think "well, maybe I don't treat my pets as good as I should, but I still care about them so this can't be animal abuse"
Reminds me of something my English teacher taught me when we were covering the subject of debates and how to persuade people: you don’t want to call them a hollow insult like racist, abuser, homophobe, etc. you want to find the middle ground that both you and your opposer have and use that against them, essentially making them think you agree with them before pulling the rug under them. I feel like PETA would be a lot more effective if it used the latter method.
Yeah, i mean, the abusers are portrayed as being a generic antagonist kids probably see every sunday on a cartoon channel. There's also little reasoning provided, it's depicted as said generic antagonist hurting animals because they just can. Sooooo in other terms, a very muddied unhelpful message that just sells the cartoon bad-guy narrative instead of saying any reason testing goes on, so kids will probably just watch the problem on instead of acting on the problem And my comment isn't in support of animal testing, peta's message is just so muddied and diluted. Maybe my reasoning sounds weird, but that's what i thought. Also this is referring mostly to the first comic
Because PETA either doesn't actually care about the real problems and causes of animal abuse, or they are literal 12 year old thinking animal abusers are just superhero comic villains
The anti egg hatching projects is so bizarre to me because I’ve literally never seen a modern school do the project without an incubator that rotates eggs for them. As someone who keeps pet chickens, hatching in an incubator is literally a necessity at times due to hens not being broody enough to care for their eggs, the hens eating the eggs, or deciding that some of the chicks they’ve hatched aren’t theirs and killing them. Also it just not feasible to keep all roosters. Unless their unusually chill they will attack each other and abuse the hens. I’d rather kill and eat my extra roosters than let them kill each other and pull out the hen’s feathers. Side note, why isn’t PETA protesting getting chicks in the mail? Are they simply not aware that you can do that? I’m glad their not because it’s an extremely safe practice, about as many survive as they would without being shipped (99%) and day old chicks don’t need to eat, that preserves genetic diversity and rarer breeds. But it’s an odd blind spot.
a bit morbid but i'm curious, do you let the roosters grow first to get more meat? I know roosters fight each other and can't be kept in the same pen so how do you keep them separate if you do?
@@whatdoyoucallanalligatorin9174 ah I tried to reply but apparently RUclips shot me down for mentioning s3x linked and s3xing chickens. To summarize without using the Forbidden Phrases, there’s very few chicken breeds where you can easily tell the gender at birth. You can gently squeeze them when their very very young in such a way to tell what organ they have or spread their wing to observe their feathers, but both are difficult and dangerous so most don’t risk it. Instead, you just wait until their old enough to start crowing/acting like a rooster and work from there. Within the meat industry they do cull male chicks since they don’t taste nearly as good as females and industry is generally more capable of telling the gender, which sucks. I’d like to make it clear I don’t support that, especially not since scientist figured out how to tell the gender in egg and especially especially not through Maceration (meat grinder, the primary method in the us). The chicken industry is a nightmare, but PETA is PETA and can never just stick to that, can they?
I agree with this. Chickens definitely will cannibalize eggs, chicks, and adults. I also know of someone who had too many roosters from hatchings. They were all stressing the hens so much to the point where the hens stopped laying. They had bald spots on their heads from all of the roosters grabbing them there. Once most of the roosters were removed, the hens started laying again and their feathers grew back.
I had a teacher who wanted a class pet and decided to take fertilized eggs from her chicken coop and bring them to class, they were placed in incubator and once they grew to big she put them back into her original coop. 11/10 experience My favorite one was one named tiny and I got to hold the chick.
@@BlyskawicaThunderstrike Oh no, rat cages like that are pretty common especially with kids in America. Tiny Fish tank and especially bowls are also a big issue.
@@diobrando1616 i upgraded my fish tank but he was sick and put him back on the small tank to the medicine to be more efficient,when he get better i will put him on the big tank,but he seems to like the small one
@@CauãDacruz-k7z Yeah I guess depending on the fish they would prefer bigger or smaller fish tanks, it's usually big ones that are good, but also if it's too big it could stress them out too. Bigger ones are less likely to get dirty because the mess is more spread out. Just always do research on any pet you get! :D
For the rat comic they couldve just been, “oh yeah i got her at a pet store, she was all squished in a tiny cage with a ton of others. The people there said she was a science rat and wasnt good for feeding.” Kid asks what they mean bu feeding and is explained etc etc. its bad when an 18 year old can make up a better flowing exposition dump than a company.
You've inspired me, so I decided to make up my own story flow. "Yes, I indeed did get her from the pet store. There was like, 7 rats in one really small cage. Yes, rats have to have friends so they won't get lonely, but seven in one cage is too much! I bought two of them, the seller warned me that these were once science rats, and that they were treated badly." Kids start asking about Sunshine and her friend (who most likely is running around somewhere in the yard), Sam just tells about animal testing the way it is (who, when, how, why), and adds up with some rules about rat's care that animal testing companies don't follow (like big well-ventilated cages, proper healthy food, keeping rats in groups so they won't get lonely, let them explore and so on). And ends with: "Yes, animal testing has gifted us a lot of medicines and goods we use right now, but it doesn't hide the fact that it's really cruel. I think it should be stopped. I believe that in the nearest future people's will find the way to test vaccines and cosmetics without using animals as test subjects." And maybe Sam's mother gonna tell about some researches on this topic. This way comic will *educate* children, not just *scare* them with needless cruelty. I'm fifteen.
7:15 as someone who owns chickens and has hatched chickens the emotions of this chicken are highly inaccurate. The chicks when hatched dont wonder where mom is because if they were they would make a high pitched chirping noise repedetly to find her. But they never do unless they are the first to hatch in which case once another hatches they stop. In classrooms they do rotate the eggs and they dont leave the light shut off after school, it stays on. Baby chicks are meant to be handled by people when young so that they get acclimated to human presence. If you handle them enough they will enjoy your company.
My family handles them from day 3 (we get them from a feed store) and they love us. About the chirping thing: you can tell whether the chirps are just peeping or if they are scaredy/cold/hot. I like how they say they will “probably” be killed. No, they’ll be sent to a feed store to be bought by someone.
Not to mention that hens aren’t always super diligent mothers, especially not if she’s inexperienced. Using an incubator is _necessary_ sometimes if the hen won’t take care of her eggs.
@@azjz5243 maybe they are trying to make kids think that animals have to go all of the things in the comic about abuse and so they become vegan?? im very confused what is PETA is even trying to do here
Back in school we had a PETA activist visit, she obviously showed us bunch of animal abuse and started to guilt trip. Weird how our homeroom teacher was okay with that.
bro, that would be like if a dude was invited in to talk about stopping suicide and then he fucking pulled up the ronnie mcnutt video. that's a horrible thing to show to children, and it doesn't even do anything to solidify your case. the fact that woman wasn't immediately kicked out of the building is sad and disappointing.
*for Kids* PETA...it says *FOR KIDS* , at least be decent to give them material that'll _inform_ them, not scare them! But knowing them, that's only a thrown away concept
So the same way Nostalgia Critic says "for kids" when it comes to 80s stuff XD cuz everyone has an 80s movie that traumatised em as a kid... Mine was Jaws and dread deep dark water
For kids,in the internet,means like 8 year olds or MORE,not 4 year olds,because why a 4 year old would be on the internet? Also I don’t think a 8 year old would be soo scared,just guilty
My school did egg hatchings, we let them live free range on the campus. The rooster however became aggressive towards the little kids and had to be gotten rid of.
Heyo! My father worked for the animal testing area in NC in the first comic. (Or at least in a place similar) He didn’t do anything with the animal testing, just helped make better AC for the college since that’s what his job is. But the reason why the comic brought up cancer was because that college was using animal testing to find cures for cancer, I believe. If I’m wrong I’m sorry! Since my dad didn’t tour the animal testing area, but the college kept it a secret for a while to prevent protests. (I’m guessing this college either was found out, or it’s a different college) I believe they only used rats and a small amount of rats too. Just that additional (maybe) fact, or at least observation I had!
🚩STRANGERS OPINION WARNING🚩 Here's the thing, its ridiculous to just straight up *cut meat from your diet* because you want to save animals. The problem isn't animals being farmed, its the WAY. Factory farming and deal like that is unethical. We shouldn't try to convince people to give up foods that the love, to big of a sacrifice. Instead we need to impose reforms on industrial animal farming. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
@@andrewevanyshyn1709 who's to judge? The right from wrong? when we all touch grass I think we'll both agree. That violence breeds violence, but in the end it has to be this way.
@@Spider_aaaahhh I've curved my own path, you've followed your wrath But maybe we're both the same. The world has turned, so many have burned. But nobody is to blame. It's tearing across this barren wasted land. I feel a new life could be born beneath the blood stained sands.
@@andrewevanyshyn1709 btw I'm not sure it's 99%, it's greatly exaggerated. Even though yes fast food corpos will always be fast food corpos but then again, there are farmer who doesn't factorized their meat industry or milk industry. 99% is greatly exaggerated and it just makes you looks like a pessimist who doesn't believe that there are some farmer who put their livestock in great condition, even though it's mostly rare nowadays.
That factory holding the rat pic at 3:49 looks like some “lost media” crap someone would make a creepypasta about after being traumatized by it as a child.
4:24 so nobody is gonna talk about how the kids were literally playing with a rat, then ran to the kitchen and picked up a burger without washing their hands.
I gotta say I'm surprised they haven't said that having a pet dog is like killing a dog for it's skin Edit: I'm not even going to say thanks for the likes cause it's stupid
Lol next thing Peta is gonna do is scream that keeping dogs and cats is mean to the animals lol (not trying to make fun of pets bc Idc if u are vegan or not we are all the same)
I love how every single commenter with even a smudge of knowledge about animals can disprove these claims PETA addressed to children, because PETA knows so little, and is so misguided, that even when talking to kids they get everything wrong
@@chainsawvulture There's a dolphin animatronic out rn you should look at, it's pretty impressive too. I think it opens the doors for epic animatronics at the circus. Why have a tiger jump through a flaming hoop when you can have a fire breathing tiger lol
It's not the same T^T And the circus that they went after didn't abuse animals, it was the smaller European family circus that do, those circuses are just harder for them to come after.
As a goat owner and breeder ever since I was a clover cloverbud,this is HIGHLY inaccurate, we don't forcefully milk and breed them...we do it when necessary,and mainly we milk them to prevent diseases and to prevent them from being sick..
Everybody asking why this kid knows so much about unethical testing, but I am wondering why that blonde pony tail girl is the only one bare foot outside while the other two have shoes and socks on.
Speaking of animal testing, my school made us do some research into the topic about the pros and cons of this to then do a debate, in some of the topics there was a discussion about companies that do invasive and non-invasive tests and about organizations that tell you "this company does/doesn't do fucked up things to animals", and in unreliable organizations to tell you if the company fucks up animal was peta, idk I thought it was funny.
Imagine if peta made a popeye comic where popeye convinces wimpy to stop his hamburguer addiction, start being a vegeterian and support peta But seriously thought, without you not alot of people would be aware of peta's horrible ways of teaching kids about animals, veganism and vegetarianism.
5:42 I cannot get over the wet market panel, "they deserve to be free with their families" Bruh what makes you think animal families stay together? A very small portion of animals actually stay together in their families, most animals usually quickly leave their parents to live on their own. I hate when garbage like "animals need to be with their family!" its not accurate, and its acting like animals have the need for family like humans do. The lack of knowledge peta has about animals honestly hurts my brain. The literal mindset of an eight year old. Don't even get me started on the chick one. Chicks really don't mind not being with their mother's as long as you have other chickens around. The way they act like the chick actually has a comprehension of "sister, why aren't you hatching?" THEY ARE ANIMALS, THEY CANNOT THINK LIKE WE DO.
I'm 100% sure that there are 300 or more people that gets off to Peta's animal torture content. And more that'll discover them and develop a sick pleasure to animal abuse.
"She didn't have a name there, just a number." Me and my friends: *-laughing and wheezing because in our school they replace every student's names with numbers-*
W-.... ye- I.... What kind of school do you go to exactly? Because that just sounds downright illegal. Literally no other school I've heard about from other kids who went to schools with weird rules did this. Guess those who ever compared schools to prisons weren't that crazy at all.... After all, it never was about learning, it's about grades. Change my mind.
@@Idiotic_B_Purcell it's actually for a good cause, in my school there are many students in each classroom and many of them have the same names so they give us numbers instead of names to make it easier. I know it sounds wrong but it makes it more easier to handle entire classes with 20-36 students in them. It's a latin catholic school after all.
The funniest part about the rat story is that 1) Owning one rat at a time is not recommended since they are social creatures and most breeders will not sell you any fewer than two at a time 2) The cage show in the comic is WAY too small for a rat.
The fact PETA tries to show actual videos of real animal abuse to young children is gross. I get wanting to teach kids to treat animals kindly, but I think the only thing these would do is scare kids.
7:07 I own chickens; every year or two we use our incubator to try to hatch a couple dozen eggs. We usually get ~10-20 chicks (not all eggs are viable, and some just don't make it. It's not a tragedy, just life. Even less would make it if one of our hens tried brooding them - multiple hens have tried, none have actually succeeded.) But like, the incubator doesn't even need to shift the eggs around. All it needs is warmth and humidity and they're fine
Having worked in an animal testing laboratory, (and having quit because it was legit disgusting and horrible for several reasons) I can say that none of us had any smiles on our faces doing our jobs or if we caused any animals pain or suffering. In fact, to this day, that keeps me up at night. Also, why do people think life in the wild outside of captivity is some peachy happy dream of freedom? Animals in nature die slow, cruel, painful deaths regularly, if they dont suffer starvation. Captivation may not be perfect, but promoting sending captive animals into the wild is the opposite of promoting saving them
they hate killing animals for meat, yet somehow when they brutally murder and eat each other they don't bat an eye? why is it bad when we kill animals to eat them when they do the same thing? that's how nature was designed.
Never hated people doing animal tests, because what else we supposed to do? Test on people? There's not enough criminals to test everything. Plus all people who work on unethical, but neccesary jobs are heroes of some kind, because they're brave enough to do it. Also yeah, releasing captive animals in the wild is like a death sentence for them.
Hahaha, NO! It IS a exageration to say that lab rats were slaughtered and shit. I had an english teacher who was, a long time ago, a biomedical researcher that ACTUALLY used rats as test subjects. It was in fact waaay more conventional than what some people expected. Actually, these rats had a normal life in a shelter reserved for biomedical scientists, the shelters were like most independants shelters (like the one I had my cat at), until some scientists chooses them to be confined until they were ready for the tests. After that, they were tested on with some meds industries’ medications or, for beauty industries, beauty products. Finally, they were euthanized a.k.a the most conventional/human way of killing.
In middle school my class, (along with a few others, not too many, maybe three, all science classes) raised chickens, we got them from a local farm that let us hatch them, they had large incubators and the lights always stayed on, during the weekends the teachers (and the janitors) came in to make sure they were doing alright. I think only one egg didnt hatch in my class and we were allowed to lightly pet the chickens, but not for too long. I think some students who owned chickens took some home and the rest went back to the farm. I think it should be mentioned that i live in a somewhat small town so its common for people to raise chickens and have farms. Most of my neighbors have chickens and one of my buddies in my neighborhood has a pig.
I'm a phd student, and people don't know one key element when it comes to animal testing. You have to your research plan to the institute research ethics board (animals have a different one than the human IRB), and the board will ask you if the research can be done without an animal and what you as the researcher will do to minimize the harm done to the animals. It's not a free for all!
2:57 no, my dad works at a office and one of the places in his buliding have lab rats, they get brain surgery to make the rat remote control and my dad said they still play and act like normal rats, nobody is cruel to the lab animals.
"The other animals are still crammed inside tiny cages. A lot of them are really sick or have big cuts and tumors" Showns : -Shaved cat -Sheep partially shaved with weird tubes that look like eyes -Bunny with some kind of infection on its back, which reminds me of the Plague Rat of Doom from EarthBound/Mother2 -A monkey with ITS FUCKING BRAIN EXPOSED !
In 2nd grade, my class did a chick and duckling hatching project. The whole "where is everyone? I'm scared." Makes no sense to me as the chicks tend to bond to people easily. Chickens are domesticated. They are used to being around humans to a genetic level. Also, I'm pretty sure chicks don't tend to be sent into the wild. All the chickens and ducks in my class were adopted by students and their parents. About dissecting frogs! I know of several schools in my area that dissect invasive species of frogs, which is better for animals and the environment in general.
invasive species of frogs oh yeah definitely better than taking a native frog and dissecting it. wouldnt be surprised if peta would think thats inhumane even though invasive species slowly destroy the environment
I think Peta neglects to realize that if everyone goes vegan, then a quite substantial percentage of livestock would not get to live. They wouldn't get to repopulate and the population would decline to those who only keep those livestock as pets. They wouldn't get to live long and happy lives.
i agree with that but there does need to be significantly less of them at a time, their methane emissions especially when produced on a mass scale like they are is causing havoc to our environment.
I recently did an argument in school about animal testing, while finding arguments I found a picture of a cat with half its face cut open, I think about that sometimes...
5:55 I remember doing a egg hatching project in kindergarten and it is not as bad as it might seem like from the comic: instead of just a glass box it was just an incubator and it was not just 1 it was around like 9 to 12? I think which is not really important to what I’m going to say next: we do not release them almost immediately we send them to another person who has already been sent chickens don’t believe everything you see on PETA
When I saw the abused sheep in that first comic, I almost broke down in tears. I’ve always adored sheep and if I had seen this as a child I would have been SCARRED. Of course I’m going to tell my kids that animal abuse is deplorable, but not in a way that scares them for life.
@LEOLAMM Amen to that, you know that evil has a hold on this world when we commit atrocities against the least of these, those who cannot speak for themselves.
"Wait... are they going to acknowledge the benefits of animal testing as a means of saving human beings, thus exploring the nuances in a way kids could understand?" he asked, knowing the most likely answer to be no
maybe at one point but with the technology we have now, it would be better to try moving away from that. no matter how you spin it, it’s still inhumane.
Best thing yet, PETA CEO openly declared, that PETA, People for Ethical Treatment of Animals, is in fact NOT an animal rights organization (or something along this lines). Tho, many people who worked for PETA claim that the CEO is a disturbed woman, so maybe she's just out of her mind and just pulled that shit out of her ass, I dunno. Anyway, it's official that PETA doesn't actually give a shit about animals, they're all just talk.
you forgot "your mommy kills animals" a comic book that was given to the kids of mothers who were wearing coats made out of down and other similar products outside of a theater playing "the nutcracker", the book was featured on watchmojo's "ten times PETA went too far",
Never did an egg hatching project (our country just doesn't like these), but my friend from America did. And well, they were rotating eggs, because it was a part of project (they had to hatch a healthy, alive chick). They also were keeping temperature nice and warm, and after hatching gave chicks to the local farm.
We raised some baby quails in our class once. But my teacher knew about turning the eggs and would do so. He took very good care of them and now they have happy and loving homes. I loved petting them and giving them the needed affection. I'd let them sleep in my hands as well. Very cute! 💖
As a vegetarian this makes me even more angry than normal people not only are they doing all these hurtful things to animals and subjecting kids to gore but also giving vegetarians and vegans bad publicity alike it makes me not want to be vegetarian sometimes
At my school we had a librarian in the elementary school who wanted to do a hatching eggs project and she had a friend who came in with professional incubators and it was nice to watch the incubators turn the eggs and when they hatched no one was allowed to touch them so the chicks could be healthy (but me being obsessed cane to the school library after class and got to pet them with the librarian)
My brothers and dad and I went to see a circus this year that had horses, dogs, elephants, and cats. Yes, housecats. These cats gladly performed tricks with their tails held up and the tips curled. Not only that, all of the animals were very well groomed and fed, you could tell from just looking at their coats. There are for sure some circuses that take good care of their animals :)
i hate to be that guy, and i’m happy you had a good time, but there is pretty much no genuinely ethical way to house an elephant happily in a circus i’m afraid. :( i love the addition of cats, dogs, and horses though! they can do some really cool things too, they don’t have to be exotic. :)
@@NeroPawz That’s sort of what I figured, considering they’re big animals stuck in a tiny place. I’m definitely glad that they had more focus on animals actually meant to live in smaller conditions.
@@theanswerisa3758 it could also be leftover from how that particular circus was back then, it can be really hard to find rescues or zoos that will take an animal that size. elephants are hard to intergrade into already established herds, too. especially a circus elephant. they might be the last elephant they’ll ever have!
2:07 as someone who owns pet rats, glass/ plastic cages are not good for rats. That wired wheel? Wtf. And the fact that it’s only one rat in this tiny little cage? Rats are social animals, and need bigger cages than that, with ventilation. I know it’s not a real rat, but that could spread misinformation.
As a North Carolinan who has had pet rats, that first comic made me cackle harder than it should have. Not because I was cutting off the heads of rats, though.
Sunshine was terribly cared for! Instead consider HUGE wired cage Same water bottle works NO WHEEL, better toys are easy to tear ropes, little balls to carry (i think) jungle gyms, Dog food makes a good substitute for rat food! HAVE A ROOMIE! Rats will turn depressed if alone and eventually starve themselves, stop grooming, and show aggresion, and grow sick and die. MAKE SURE YOU RESEARCH BEFORE U BUY UR PET!!
mate when it comes to breeding cows in Poland, they are most often released for a few hours on a clearing (often several hectares) and rather feel well there, of course, the milk is taken from them but pk what's the milk if the young that she gave birth to, most often do not drink this milk anymore at the age of 2 so what the pete shows is a lie on a lie (sorry for ortography i translated it in google translator)
Our school had a incubation place. The eggs were brought in by local farmers and school students that raised chickens and we learned how reproduction and stuff and mitosis and miosis. All the baby chicks we got to name it was adorable and they got to go back to their owners after about a week of staying in the school
Fish can't be in a bowl, or small tank... the smallest size tank for the smallest goldfish is 20 gallons, but the kinds most people put in bowls (commet or common should be in at least a 75 gallon) actually a bowl is too small for any fish, the smallest tank for a fish is 5 or 10 gallons, but this would be avoided if people do their research before getting a fish. But I'm sure the peta comic says "all" fish belong in the ocean (when some are in lakes, and goldfish are motafied, and will destroy a whole ecosystem if released into the wild)
Now I feel guilty because I uploaded a video of some baby guinea pigs I saw at the pet store the other day. They all looked healthy, they were eating and popcorning and their cage was quite large, but you know how these animal wrongs enthusiasts are. The one thing that bothered me was that the guinea pigs were all male and I was worried that if I brought a couple home they would get aggressive and attack each other as they got older.
pet stores are interesting because it’s up the actual store itself to treat its animals nicely, not necessarily the chain it comes from. i wouldn’t feel too bad about it, if they looked happy then they probably were. :)
Peta's relying on fear tactics and guilt tripping, and now they're targeting kids with this stuff?? If I was a young kid and I saw that comic about animal experimentation, I'd get the wrong idea and have nightmares over this stuff
I'm just going to say one thing regarding animal testing. You literally have no choice. We don't have supercomputers that can predict everything 100% yet. How else are you going to test new medicine? I think it's fair that the first testing trials are done on animals and not humans immediately. it would be worse if everything was done on humans.
8:06 i’ve been to the wet market in Vietnam when I was in the countryside and I definitely sure there is no exotic animal meat selling there. Maybe the place they mention might be from China
About the cow comic: cows *need* to be milked for their own health and safety. I do agree that some farm setups are uncomfortable and harmful for the cows, but the solution isn’t “just stop milking them”. It reminds me a bit of how PETA claims it’s “cruel” to shear sheep for their wool, when in reality, wool overgrowth can cause them pain, skin disease, wool rot, and even death.
Fun fact: some animals live longer in captivity so asking the animals to not be used in zoos or anywhere they are taken care of and be free is making their shorter and making them die faster And maybe even die from predators We are top of the *food* chain because we are smart Animals eat eachother and we are acting like being the predator and being one with nature is “bad”
I can tell you for a fact we don't laugh while we dissect animals. We wheeze uncontrollably. No but in all seriousness what? Nobody enjoy those labs. We actively dislike them but some of them are necessary. If you want a doctor to be able perform on you properly, they're going to have to have some experience on an animal in some way shape or form. I hate it too. I hated the labs that involved frogs and rabbits because I love animals. But I also get why it can be necessary.
Does… does PETA not know anything about kids? From what they think is kid friendly, I would think not, but I still feel the need to ask into the void!!
Oh boy! A comic about chickens. Would be a shame if I... _unleashed my hyperfixation_ First up, when chicks hatch they don't automatically assume hens are their mothers (this is commonly known as imprinting) and will typically look for cover from the nearest thing the chick assumes is its parent. Usually this is a(n adult) person offering cover with an open palm or an object. One thing to note though is that you should probably not keep chicks in a glass tank that looks like its meant for reptiles. Mother hens don't carefully rotate eggs, or at least a majority of them don't (though if you're hatching it's recommended you do so). With chickens behavior differs from breed to breed and even chicken to chicken, so ultimately the hen herself won't automatically do this. In some cases broody hens even leave chicks to die or peck them to death, but on the flip side some hens (usually if they're friends or the same breed) will 'co mum' chicks. But overall there's a lot of negative information about the ethics of chick raising without getting to vital bits or _why_ they're really important. Or even positive information that encourages people to raise their own chickens or buy from more reputable sources.
As a vegetarian and a huge animal lover myself it not only breaks my heart but extremely angers me to see PETA giving animal-rights activists a bad name every day with their terrible tactics offensive shock factor valuing marketing, and all the terrible things they have done not mentioned in this comment. Just a note out there to say that not all of us should be associated with people like them or other people with similar tactics such as that vegan teacher. They do more harm than good. Have a great day everyone :)
Taking out the milk of a cow doesn't actually hurt them. It helps them because when they get overly full of milk that they start crying in pain. So you have to milk the cow.
this reminds me of the time some PETA idiots were saying "sheep shouldn't have their wool stolen", when they actually need to be sheared or they will die. Since the large amount of wool would attracted parasites and could cause infection, not to mention likelihood of overheating
Facts About Milk: Casein and whey protein are some major proteins of milk that a human needs(I swear I'm not biased). They make out about 80% of bovine milk. Another protein in milk is called calcium. This protein is needed to create better and stronger bones. It can also help prevent osteoporosis and bone fractures. We should all probably know that the milk I'm talking about comes from goats and cows. And before some of you guys jump up on me with of how milking cows is bad, and they should not be milked, well then that's what you think and you can stick with that, but there are some problems with this situation. On dairy farms, or just plain farms, cows need to be milked every 12 hours (4 am to 4 pm). The reason behind this is because if they are not milked like, at all, cows can get a disease called mastitis, which is deadly for the cow. Other things that can happen to the cow are infections, udder injury, and a painful death. I'm not saying you should always drink milk, because you don't. But the excess milk has gotta go somewhere. Edit: Thank you for your time.
As a rat owner that small cage and wire wheel it can hurt their little feets and even break their legs rats need to be in groups or they will be lonely but I go to a local pet store and they are not in small cages and they are in big groups of 4 it's really sad that people do this pray for little sunshine and don't forget to protect the little ratti feet
The first comic makes me like... upset for reasons you may not except which is its enclosure seen in the background is actually inappropriate for a rat. Their cage needs to be bigger and have more verticality to it (rats love to climb). Furthermore it looks to be a tank style enclosure which rats CANNOT be kept it as those often lead to a potentially fatal respiratory condition. Lastly rats are extremely social and, unless they have aggression issues, they should always be kept with another rat. So yeah that whole comic went on such a tangent about how abusive animal testing is... while indirectly teaching kids exactly all the wrong ways one should take care of a rat.
I’ve always thought of animal testing as a moral and situational gray area. In cases where animal testing can be avoided with no significant cost, it should obviously be avoided. But in cases where animal testing is required, if the animals isn’t particularly intelligent and the cause is great enough, and tests have been done previously to increase animal safety, I think it’s worth it.
4:16 I SOMEHOW MISSED THAT SHE SAID THEY WERE VEGGIE BURGERS I APOLOGIZE
I guess they aren't veggie burgers anymore.
When is the next isaac character analysis
veggie stuff is cringe, it is better to eat water burguers or stone fried chicken, or what about, THE TREE HOTDOG!!!!! that is epic af
"veggie burgers"
Its people. Soylent green is people.
I was about to comment something like this
mom saying veggie burger: am I a joke to you
Lol… as someone who has pet rats they don’t even portray pet rat care properly- poor Sunshine’s in a really abusive setup. Tiny tank? Wire wheel? Setting up that rat to break her feet and get respiratory infections from the lack of ventilation in glass cages, not to mention the lack of any friends- rats are social animals and quite literally have to be kept in pairs or groups or else it’ll severely impact their health.
I only had hamsters Syrians perfer to be alone
I noticed that to it looks like they got everything from a pet store and got the ones for The rats and they got this bad cage And it's super duper tiny And there's no friends for the rats but rats are very very social
I have mice not rats but I know somethings about rats
That’s rodents in general.
Except hamsters, those little bastards will go all cannibalistic on each other, it’s fucking crazy.
@@beastmaster0934 well depends on the species
Campbell dwarf can be in groups
The rat cage they drew is inadequate, and rats need other rats unless they’re agressive. Good job peta
exactly
fr like they didn’t even do research lol
What would peta know about proper animal care? They euthanized a dog they stole from someones porch
Fr I heard that the loneliness can really affect their health
@@theharvinator what do you expect they just kill all the animals they get and this stuff is propaganda they spread to distract the public from the truth i doubt they actually care about animals
What annoyed me most is that they called it “a tigers life“ instead of “a tigers tail”. It rolls off the tongue better and has a slight pun in it.
But that would require PETA to use more than one brain cell at the same time.
@@Lissy_YT481 tttrrruuuuuu
@@Lissy_YT481 Dang, but thats true
"Some would throw them into a cooler, even though they were still alive" They say, while euthanizing almost all of their affiliates shelter pets
LITERALLYYYYYY
fr
Yeah, see? Peta kills the animals instead, so they can't suffer! It's totally humane! (/s)
@@peeblekitty5780 well that would normally make sense but hey it’s PETA
@@peeblekitty5780 So true! They even kidnapped a seeing eye dog and euthanized it so it didn’t have to work! Shame on that man for being blind. /s
So wait, Sam says that Sunny escaped from a college that was experimenting on animals? How would he know that? All he knows is that his dad found a rat. Sounds like Sam is lying for attention.
Mad rat dead did it better
Sounds like an average elementary student to me
Yeah, the story really doesnt add up unless he's saying his dad works there.
@@beansforlief5703 that just makes it worse, honestly
A high percentage of the time a person that knew what to look for could easily tell if it was a lab animal... there also the obvious that he could have been involved in the experiments and/or the removal of the animal from the experimenters group.
PETA presents animal cruelty as if it occurs because many people get a thrill out of torturing animals just for the sake of it.
That doesn't lead to fighting cruelty effectively, because lack of information means attention isn't being focused on changing the actual circumstances that cause it.
While there's a place for spurring people to action, shock value stuff like this is just going to lead to people flailing and outraged but not helping.
Also, saying "oh anyone who hurts animals is doing it because they're evil" makes people less likely to recognize animal abuse. Like, people will think "well, maybe I don't treat my pets as good as I should, but I still care about them so this can't be animal abuse"
Not to mention that saying every single person that works at meat factories or laboratories is a villain is really biased and just not true
Reminds me of something my English teacher taught me when we were covering the subject of debates and how to persuade people: you don’t want to call them a hollow insult like racist, abuser, homophobe, etc. you want to find the middle ground that both you and your opposer have and use that against them, essentially making them think you agree with them before pulling the rug under them. I feel like PETA would be a lot more effective if it used the latter method.
Yeah, i mean, the abusers are portrayed as being a generic antagonist kids probably see every sunday on a cartoon channel. There's also little reasoning provided, it's depicted as said generic antagonist hurting animals because they just can. Sooooo in other terms, a very muddied unhelpful message that just sells the cartoon bad-guy narrative instead of saying any reason testing goes on, so kids will probably just watch the problem on instead of acting on the problem
And my comment isn't in support of animal testing, peta's message is just so muddied and diluted.
Maybe my reasoning sounds weird, but that's what i thought.
Also this is referring mostly to the first comic
Because PETA either doesn't actually care about the real problems and causes of animal abuse, or they are literal 12 year old thinking animal abusers are just superhero comic villains
The anti egg hatching projects is so bizarre to me because I’ve literally never seen a modern school do the project without an incubator that rotates eggs for them. As someone who keeps pet chickens, hatching in an incubator is literally a necessity at times due to hens not being broody enough to care for their eggs, the hens eating the eggs, or deciding that some of the chicks they’ve hatched aren’t theirs and killing them. Also it just not feasible to keep all roosters. Unless their unusually chill they will attack each other and abuse the hens. I’d rather kill and eat my extra roosters than let them kill each other and pull out the hen’s feathers.
Side note, why isn’t PETA protesting getting chicks in the mail? Are they simply not aware that you can do that? I’m glad their not because it’s an extremely safe practice, about as many survive as they would without being shipped (99%) and day old chicks don’t need to eat, that preserves genetic diversity and rarer breeds. But it’s an odd blind spot.
a bit morbid but i'm curious, do you let the roosters grow first to get more meat? I know roosters fight each other and can't be kept in the same pen so how do you keep them separate if you do?
@@whatdoyoucallanalligatorin9174 ah I tried to reply but apparently RUclips shot me down for mentioning s3x linked and s3xing chickens. To summarize without using the Forbidden Phrases, there’s very few chicken breeds where you can easily tell the gender at birth. You can gently squeeze them when their very very young in such a way to tell what organ they have or spread their wing to observe their feathers, but both are difficult and dangerous so most don’t risk it. Instead, you just wait until their old enough to start crowing/acting like a rooster and work from there.
Within the meat industry they do cull male chicks since they don’t taste nearly as good as females and industry is generally more capable of telling the gender, which sucks. I’d like to make it clear I don’t support that, especially not since scientist figured out how to tell the gender in egg and especially especially not through Maceration (meat grinder, the primary method in the us). The chicken industry is a nightmare, but PETA is PETA and can never just stick to that, can they?
@@whatdoyoucallanalligatorin9174 i know that you let the roosters grow first. they are usually ready at around 5 months.
I agree with this. Chickens definitely will cannibalize eggs, chicks, and adults. I also know of someone who had too many roosters from hatchings. They were all stressing the hens so much to the point where the hens stopped laying. They had bald spots on their heads from all of the roosters grabbing them there. Once most of the roosters were removed, the hens started laying again and their feathers grew back.
I had a teacher who wanted a class pet and decided to take fertilized eggs from her chicken coop and bring them to class, they were placed in incubator and once they grew to big she put them back into her original coop. 11/10 experience My favorite one was one named tiny and I got to hold the chick.
PETA: “rats are usually kept in *small* dirty cages”
The cage in the comic: *am I a joke to you?*
unless it's some random 3rd world country in central Africa I don't think rats are kept in small boxes.
@@BlyskawicaThunderstrike Oh no, rat cages like that are pretty common especially with kids in America. Tiny Fish tank and especially bowls are also a big issue.
@@BlyskawicaThunderstrike Rats are better in my mouth than my cage
@@diobrando1616 i upgraded my fish tank but he was sick and put him back on the small tank to the medicine to be more efficient,when he get better i will put him on the big tank,but he seems to like the small one
@@CauãDacruz-k7z Yeah I guess depending on the fish they would prefer bigger or smaller fish tanks, it's usually big ones that are good, but also if it's too big it could stress them out too. Bigger ones are less likely to get dirty because the mess is more spread out. Just always do research on any pet you get! :D
For the rat comic they couldve just been, “oh yeah i got her at a pet store, she was all squished in a tiny cage with a ton of others. The people there said she was a science rat and wasnt good for feeding.” Kid asks what they mean bu feeding and is explained etc etc. its bad when an 18 year old can make up a better flowing exposition dump than a company.
You've inspired me, so I decided to make up my own story flow.
"Yes, I indeed did get her from the pet store. There was like, 7 rats in one really small cage. Yes, rats have to have friends so they won't get lonely, but seven in one cage is too much! I bought two of them, the seller warned me that these were once science rats, and that they were treated badly."
Kids start asking about Sunshine and her friend (who most likely is running around somewhere in the yard), Sam just tells about animal testing the way it is (who, when, how, why), and adds up with some rules about rat's care that animal testing companies don't follow (like big well-ventilated cages, proper healthy food, keeping rats in groups so they won't get lonely, let them explore and so on). And ends with: "Yes, animal testing has gifted us a lot of medicines and goods we use right now, but it doesn't hide the fact that it's really cruel. I think it should be stopped. I believe that in the nearest future people's will find the way to test vaccines and cosmetics without using animals as test subjects." And maybe Sam's mother gonna tell about some researches on this topic. This way comic will *educate* children, not just *scare* them with needless cruelty.
I'm fifteen.
7:15 as someone who owns chickens and has hatched chickens the emotions of this chicken are highly inaccurate. The chicks when hatched dont wonder where mom is because if they were they would make a high pitched chirping noise repedetly to find her. But they never do unless they are the first to hatch in which case once another hatches they stop. In classrooms they do rotate the eggs and they dont leave the light shut off after school, it stays on. Baby chicks are meant to be handled by people when young so that they get acclimated to human presence. If you handle them enough they will enjoy your company.
My family handles them from day 3 (we get them from a feed store) and they love us. About the chirping thing: you can tell whether the chirps are just peeping or if they are scaredy/cold/hot. I like how they say they will “probably” be killed. No, they’ll be sent to a feed store to be bought by someone.
Yeah, a heat lamp, siblings, and human company usually makes for a perfectly functionable replacement for a mother
Not to mention that hens aren’t always super diligent mothers, especially not if she’s inexperienced. Using an incubator is _necessary_ sometimes if the hen won’t take care of her eggs.
@@anerrorhasoccurred8727 and eating the own eggs is not uncommon among birds in general.
@@epicthecandydragon6079 especially when the humans provide everything the mother would
They don’t know what “for kids” means.
They think it means lower quality
Obviously they are trying to draw a terrifying image in those kids brains.
This is not "for kids" its "kids targeted"
They probably treat their kids the same way they treat the captured animals.
@@azjz5243
maybe they are trying to make kids think that animals have to go all of the things in the comic about abuse and so they become vegan??
im very confused what is PETA is even trying to do here
same with youtube
So they're just gonna ignore that rats can die from loneliness and that everything used for that rat was garbage? Yeah seems about right.
Back in school we had a PETA activist visit, she obviously showed us bunch of animal abuse and started to guilt trip. Weird how our homeroom teacher was okay with that.
Are you okay after their visit? (How school even let in someone from Peta?)
@@Creative_StudioMic that's what I'm saying
bro, that would be like if a dude was invited in to talk about stopping suicide and then he fucking pulled up the ronnie mcnutt video. that's a horrible thing to show to children, and it doesn't even do anything to solidify your case. the fact that woman wasn't immediately kicked out of the building is sad and disappointing.
Guys never do drugs!
*Proceeds to show a video of a man dying from drugs to little kiddos*
Yes... better hide the facts from kids.😂😂😂
*for Kids*
PETA...it says *FOR KIDS* , at least be decent to give them material that'll _inform_ them, not scare them!
But knowing them, that's only a thrown away concept
how the fuck does peta know this real or not i think its peta whos doing tths because aint nobody knows this stuff just out of the blue
So the same way Nostalgia Critic says "for kids" when it comes to 80s stuff XD cuz everyone has an 80s movie that traumatised em as a kid... Mine was Jaws and dread deep dark water
For kids,in the internet,means like 8 year olds or MORE,not 4 year olds,because why a 4 year old would be on the internet? Also I don’t think a 8 year old would be soo scared,just guilty
@@HYDROCARBON_XDidk man,some kids might be scared of peta's comics tho.
@@reid_spencer some but those are usually abnormally squeamish
My school did egg hatchings, we let them live free range on the campus. The rooster however became aggressive towards the little kids and had to be gotten rid of.
Did y'all have chicken for lunch?
Roosters seem to be assholes to everything so Im not surprised
@@Sumschmuck I'm from the south so a lot of us already have chickens so we just took any roosters home that the school didn't want.
@@ArtistocraticFool did you enjoy holding the roosters?
@@Sumschmuck you can't eat rooster, they're too gamey and thin for that
I love when comic have an actual storyline and aren’t just pure exposition by the characters
Yeah me too
Heyo! My father worked for the animal testing area in NC in the first comic. (Or at least in a place similar) He didn’t do anything with the animal testing, just helped make better AC for the college since that’s what his job is. But the reason why the comic brought up cancer was because that college was using animal testing to find cures for cancer, I believe. If I’m wrong I’m sorry! Since my dad didn’t tour the animal testing area, but the college kept it a secret for a while to prevent protests. (I’m guessing this college either was found out, or it’s a different college) I believe they only used rats and a small amount of rats too. Just that additional (maybe) fact, or at least observation I had!
So they want her to have cancer ig
Yes yes curing cancer is such a terrible thing to do because you sometimes have to test on rats to save thousands of humans lives
@@Blacksmith52 yep
🚩STRANGERS OPINION WARNING🚩
Here's the thing, its ridiculous to just straight up *cut meat from your diet* because you want to save animals. The problem isn't animals being farmed, its the WAY. Factory farming and deal like that is unethical. We shouldn't try to convince people to give up foods that the love, to big of a sacrifice. Instead we need to impose reforms on industrial animal farming. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
@@andrewevanyshyn1709 local farm products exist? 🤨
@@andrewevanyshyn1709 who's to judge? The right from wrong? when we all touch grass I think we'll both agree. That violence breeds violence, but in the end it has to be this way.
@@Spider_aaaahhh facts
@@Spider_aaaahhh I've curved my own path, you've followed your wrath
But maybe we're both the same.
The world has turned, so many have burned.
But nobody is to blame.
It's tearing across this barren wasted land.
I feel a new life could be born beneath the blood stained sands.
@@andrewevanyshyn1709 btw I'm not sure it's 99%, it's greatly exaggerated. Even though yes fast food corpos will always be fast food corpos but then again, there are farmer who doesn't factorized their meat industry or milk industry. 99% is greatly exaggerated and it just makes you looks like a pessimist who doesn't believe that there are some farmer who put their livestock in great condition, even though it's mostly rare nowadays.
That factory holding the rat pic at 3:49 looks like some “lost media” crap someone would make a creepypasta about after being traumatized by it as a child.
Yeah
4:24 so nobody is gonna talk about how the kids were literally playing with a rat, then ran to the kitchen and picked up a burger without washing their hands.
I gotta say I'm surprised they haven't said that having a pet dog is like killing a dog for it's skin
Edit: I'm not even going to say thanks for the likes cause it's stupid
Lol next thing Peta is gonna do is scream that keeping dogs and cats is mean to the animals lol (not trying to make fun of pets bc Idc if u are vegan or not we are all the same)
@@uzi_-_ what
@@RiseLeon_Turtle ...Hate to say this, but PETA's already said that
@@genericname2747 ok ok I hate peta
...so, owning a pet = murder? Are you familiar with the old robot phrase, " DOES NOT COMPUTE"?
I love how every single commenter with even a smudge of knowledge about animals can disprove these claims PETA addressed to children, because PETA knows so little, and is so misguided, that even when talking to kids they get everything wrong
As a kid, I went to a circus without animals. It was absolutely fun and had amazing CGI at the end. I wondered how they could do CGI in a circus.
I’d love to see CGI or animatronics used in marine parks
@@kiwi6421 I wish so too. Seaworld would do anything just for money,
I remember hearing about a circus that uses a holographic projector to portray their aninals
@@chainsawvulture There's a dolphin animatronic out rn you should look at, it's pretty impressive too. I think it opens the doors for epic animatronics at the circus. Why have a tiger jump through a flaming hoop when you can have a fire breathing tiger lol
It's not the same T^T And the circus that they went after didn't abuse animals, it was the smaller European family circus that do, those circuses are just harder for them to come after.
As a goat owner and breeder ever since I was a clover cloverbud,this is HIGHLY inaccurate, we don't forcefully milk and breed them...we do it when necessary,and mainly we milk them to prevent diseases and to prevent them from being sick..
Bruh. I never got why people hate milking, would you prefer they get clogged up?
@@Nerodotnet exactly,if a goats udders gets clogged it is is deadly
goats are also a lot better for milk farming than cows, we can actually digest goat milk probably! most animals can
@@NeroPawz good point and plus its Alot more easier
what is a clover bud?
Everybody asking why this kid knows so much about unethical testing, but I am wondering why that blonde pony tail girl is the only one bare foot outside while the other two have shoes and socks on.
She's poor
Shoes kill ants when you step on them, therefore they are cruel torture devices and shall not be worn.
2:15 this is true for some chain pet stores (petco,petsmart etc.) but getting her from a rescue means you **rescued** her from a worse environment…
Speaking of animal testing, my school made us do some research into the topic about the pros and cons of this to then do a debate, in some of the topics there was a discussion about companies that do invasive and non-invasive tests and about organizations that tell you "this company does/doesn't do fucked up things to animals", and in unreliable organizations to tell you if the company fucks up animal was peta, idk I thought it was funny.
Imagine if peta made a popeye comic where popeye convinces wimpy to stop his hamburguer addiction, start being a vegeterian and support peta
But seriously thought, without you not alot of people would be aware of peta's horrible ways of teaching kids about animals, veganism and vegetarianism.
I can imagine a flash game called, “Popeyes Chicken is Choking Knives!"
5:42
I cannot get over the wet market panel, "they deserve to be free with their families"
Bruh what makes you think animal families stay together? A very small portion of animals actually stay together in their families, most animals usually quickly leave their parents to live on their own. I hate when garbage like "animals need to be with their family!"
its not accurate, and its acting like animals have the need for family like humans do. The lack of knowledge peta has about animals honestly hurts my brain. The literal mindset of an eight year old.
Don't even get me started on the chick one. Chicks really don't mind not being with their mother's as long as you have other chickens around. The way they act like the chick actually has a comprehension of "sister, why aren't you hatching?"
THEY ARE ANIMALS, THEY CANNOT THINK LIKE WE DO.
I'm 100% sure that there are 300 or more people that gets off to Peta's animal torture content. And more that'll discover them and develop a sick pleasure to animal abuse.
How ironic
"She didn't have a name there, just a number."
Me and my friends: *-laughing and wheezing because in our school they replace every student's names with numbers-*
W-.... ye- I....
What kind of school do you go to exactly? Because that just sounds downright illegal. Literally no other school I've heard about from other kids who went to schools with weird rules did this. Guess those who ever compared schools to prisons weren't that crazy at all....
After all, it never was about learning, it's about grades. Change my mind.
@@Idiotic_B_Purcell it's actually for a good cause, in my school there are many students in each classroom and many of them have the same names so they give us numbers instead of names to make it easier. I know it sounds wrong but it makes it more easier to handle entire classes with 20-36 students in them. It's a latin catholic school after all.
The funniest part about the rat story is that 1) Owning one rat at a time is not recommended since they are social creatures and most breeders will not sell you any fewer than two at a time 2) The cage show in the comic is WAY too small for a rat.
The fact PETA tries to show actual videos of real animal abuse to young children is gross. I get wanting to teach kids to treat animals kindly, but I think the only thing these would do is scare kids.
When the trauma is rated E for everyone.
My mom forgot to rotate my egg which is why I’m like this
7:07
I own chickens; every year or two we use our incubator to try to hatch a couple dozen eggs. We usually get ~10-20 chicks (not all eggs are viable, and some just don't make it. It's not a tragedy, just life. Even less would make it if one of our hens tried brooding them - multiple hens have tried, none have actually succeeded.)
But like, the incubator doesn't even need to shift the eggs around. All it needs is warmth and humidity and they're fine
Having worked in an animal testing laboratory, (and having quit because it was legit disgusting and horrible for several reasons) I can say that none of us had any smiles on our faces doing our jobs or if we caused any animals pain or suffering.
In fact, to this day, that keeps me up at night.
Also, why do people think life in the wild outside of captivity is some peachy happy dream of freedom? Animals in nature die slow, cruel, painful deaths regularly, if they dont suffer starvation. Captivation may not be perfect, but promoting sending captive animals into the wild is the opposite of promoting saving them
they hate killing animals for meat, yet somehow when they brutally murder and eat each other they don't bat an eye? why is it bad when we kill animals to eat them when they do the same thing? that's how nature was designed.
Never hated people doing animal tests, because what else we supposed to do? Test on people? There's not enough criminals to test everything. Plus all people who work on unethical, but neccesary jobs are heroes of some kind, because they're brave enough to do it.
Also yeah, releasing captive animals in the wild is like a death sentence for them.
Hahaha, NO! It IS a exageration to say that lab rats were slaughtered and shit. I had an english teacher who was, a long time ago, a biomedical researcher that ACTUALLY used rats as test subjects. It was in fact waaay more conventional than what some people expected. Actually, these rats had a normal life in a shelter reserved for biomedical scientists, the shelters were like most independants shelters (like the one I had my cat at), until some scientists chooses them to be confined until they were ready for the tests. After that, they were tested on with some meds industries’ medications or, for beauty industries, beauty products. Finally, they were euthanized a.k.a the most conventional/human way of killing.
In middle school my class, (along with a few others, not too many, maybe three, all science classes) raised chickens, we got them from a local farm that let us hatch them, they had large incubators and the lights always stayed on, during the weekends the teachers (and the janitors) came in to make sure they were doing alright. I think only one egg didnt hatch in my class and we were allowed to lightly pet the chickens, but not for too long. I think some students who owned chickens took some home and the rest went back to the farm. I think it should be mentioned that i live in a somewhat small town so its common for people to raise chickens and have farms. Most of my neighbors have chickens and one of my buddies in my neighborhood has a pig.
Mmmm, fresh meat 🤤
@@ourgloriousgodoursaviourbe2757 damn chill
I'm a phd student, and people don't know one key element when it comes to animal testing. You have to your research plan to the institute research ethics board (animals have a different one than the human IRB), and the board will ask you if the research can be done without an animal and what you as the researcher will do to minimize the harm done to the animals. It's not a free for all!
2:57 no, my dad works at a office and one of the places in his buliding have lab rats, they get brain surgery to make the rat remote control and my dad said they still play and act like normal rats, nobody is cruel to the lab animals.
4:56 I…I have the sudden urge to edit these text boxes-
Good idea
...why is that a lone rat...
also worst possible setup. although like the promotion of adopting lab rats
"The other animals are still crammed inside tiny cages. A lot of them are really sick or have big cuts and tumors"
Showns :
-Shaved cat
-Sheep partially shaved with weird tubes that look like eyes
-Bunny with some kind of infection on its back, which reminds me of the Plague Rat of Doom from EarthBound/Mother2
-A monkey with ITS FUCKING BRAIN EXPOSED !
In 2nd grade, my class did a chick and duckling hatching project. The whole "where is everyone? I'm scared." Makes no sense to me as the chicks tend to bond to people easily. Chickens are domesticated. They are used to being around humans to a genetic level. Also, I'm pretty sure chicks don't tend to be sent into the wild. All the chickens and ducks in my class were adopted by students and their parents.
About dissecting frogs! I know of several schools in my area that dissect invasive species of frogs, which is better for animals and the environment in general.
invasive species of frogs oh yeah definitely better than taking a native frog and dissecting it.
wouldnt be surprised if peta would think thats inhumane even though invasive species slowly destroy the environment
that cage for the rat is tiny, sunshine deserves a better home :(
Like the warm comfortable stomach of a cat
@@Sumschmuck bruh.
@@IMPofTHEGASsTATION rats aren't pets, they're pests.
@@Sumschmuck Tell that to my local humane society who takes in pet rats
@@blakeripples ok, what's their number?
2:28 HEY SAM ALL SHE DID IS ASK IF YOU GOT THE RAT FROM A FUCKING PET STORE NOT THE RATS FULL LIFE STORY
my guy heard pet store and just fucking went off on her
I've always wondered something, people say we should stop eating meat because it came from living animals but plants are also alive sooooo
We should eat dirt. Only dirt
@@royalblanket agreed , it's both saving the animals and the plants 🙂👍
But we are harming the plants by taking their dirt
We should resort to eating stone
@@goldenknightninja true , it's the price we must pay cuz plants and animals are more important than human beings , reasons? Because why not
We become scavengers and eat what is already dead
I think Peta neglects to realize that if everyone goes vegan, then a quite substantial percentage of livestock would not get to live. They wouldn't get to repopulate and the population would decline to those who only keep those livestock as pets. They wouldn't get to live long and happy lives.
i agree with that but there does need to be significantly less of them at a time, their methane emissions especially when produced on a mass scale like they are is causing havoc to our environment.
Peta is basically if the vegan teacher made a company
I recently did an argument in school about animal testing, while finding arguments I found a picture of a cat with half its face cut open, I think about that sometimes...
Oh no! What was the context of the image?
@@marinanieto7670 or maybe is just photoshoped
@@marinanieto7670 oh damn. I feel terrible.
@@sangu1v0r3 I have no idea what the context was
@@marinanieto7670 just an FYI I'm a high school student & I was when I saw the image
5:55 I remember doing a egg hatching project in kindergarten and it is not as bad as it might seem like from the comic: instead of just a glass box it was just an incubator and it was not just 1 it was around like 9 to 12? I think which is not really important to what I’m going to say next: we do not release them almost immediately we send them to another person who has already been sent chickens don’t believe everything you see on PETA
When I saw the abused sheep in that first comic, I almost broke down in tears. I’ve always adored sheep and if I had seen this as a child I would have been SCARRED. Of course I’m going to tell my kids that animal abuse is deplorable, but not in a way that scares them for life.
@LEOLAMM Amen to that, you know that evil has a hold on this world when we commit atrocities against the least of these, those who cannot speak for themselves.
"Wait... are they going to acknowledge the benefits of animal testing as a means of saving human beings, thus exploring the nuances in a way kids could understand?" he asked, knowing the most likely answer to be no
maybe at one point but with the technology we have now, it would be better to try moving away from that. no matter how you spin it, it’s still inhumane.
I actually have two cats, and had a physical copy of A Dog's Life at one point. I don't think I have it anymore though. Kinda glad about it
Best thing yet, PETA CEO openly declared, that PETA, People for Ethical Treatment of Animals, is in fact NOT an animal rights organization (or something along this lines). Tho, many people who worked for PETA claim that the CEO is a disturbed woman, so maybe she's just out of her mind and just pulled that shit out of her ass, I dunno. Anyway, it's official that PETA doesn't actually give a shit about animals, they're all just talk.
you forgot "your mommy kills animals" a comic book that was given to the kids of mothers who were wearing coats made out of down and other similar products outside of a theater playing "the nutcracker", the book was featured on watchmojo's "ten times PETA went too far",
Never did an egg hatching project (our country just doesn't like these), but my friend from America did. And well, they were rotating eggs, because it was a part of project (they had to hatch a healthy, alive chick). They also were keeping temperature nice and warm, and after hatching gave chicks to the local farm.
Peta is a great example of good idea, bad execution
I like how peta took the term “beat evil with greater evil” too seriously lol
We raised some baby quails in our class once. But my teacher knew about turning the eggs and would do so. He took very good care of them and now they have happy and loving homes. I loved petting them and giving them the needed affection. I'd let them sleep in my hands as well. Very cute! 💖
As a vegetarian this makes me even more angry than normal people not only are they doing all these hurtful things to animals and subjecting kids to gore but also giving vegetarians and vegans bad publicity alike it makes me not want to be vegetarian sometimes
Why is no one talking about this goofy ahh painting? 5:35
At my school we had a librarian in the elementary school who wanted to do a hatching eggs project and she had a friend who came in with professional incubators and it was nice to watch the incubators turn the eggs and when they hatched no one was allowed to touch them so the chicks could be healthy (but me being obsessed cane to the school library after class and got to pet them with the librarian)
My brothers and dad and I went to see a circus this year that had horses, dogs, elephants, and cats. Yes, housecats. These cats gladly performed tricks with their tails held up and the tips curled. Not only that, all of the animals were very well groomed and fed, you could tell from just looking at their coats. There are for sure some circuses that take good care of their animals :)
i hate to be that guy, and i’m happy you had a good time, but there is pretty much no genuinely ethical way to house an elephant happily in a circus i’m afraid. :( i love the addition of cats, dogs, and horses though! they can do some really cool things too, they don’t have to be exotic. :)
@@NeroPawz That’s sort of what I figured, considering they’re big animals stuck in a tiny place. I’m definitely glad that they had more focus on animals actually meant to live in smaller conditions.
@@theanswerisa3758 it could also be leftover from how that particular circus was back then, it can be really hard to find rescues or zoos that will take an animal that size. elephants are hard to intergrade into already established herds, too. especially a circus elephant. they might be the last elephant they’ll ever have!
2:07 as someone who owns pet rats, glass/ plastic cages are not good for rats. That wired wheel? Wtf. And the fact that it’s only one rat in this tiny little cage? Rats are social animals, and need bigger cages than that, with ventilation. I know it’s not a real rat, but that could spread misinformation.
As a North Carolinan who has had pet rats, that first comic made me cackle harder than it should have. Not because I was cutting off the heads of rats, though.
4:16 The mom clearly says "I made veggie burgers"
I LITERALLY DIDNT SEE THAT
Lmao nice
Sunshine was terribly cared for!
Instead consider
HUGE wired cage
Same water bottle works
NO WHEEL, better toys are easy to tear ropes, little balls to carry (i think) jungle gyms,
Dog food makes a good substitute for rat food!
HAVE A ROOMIE!
Rats will turn depressed if alone and eventually starve themselves, stop grooming, and show aggresion, and grow sick and die.
MAKE SURE YOU RESEARCH BEFORE U BUY UR PET!!
mate when it comes to breeding cows in Poland, they are most often released for a few hours on a clearing (often several hectares) and rather feel well there, of course, the milk is taken from them but pk what's the milk if the young that she gave birth to, most often do not drink this milk anymore at the age of 2 so what the pete shows is a lie on a lie (sorry for ortography i translated it in google translator)
Peta thinks chicks have such complex thought that they're immediately asking where their moms are, rather than imprint on whatever they see first?
As if it wasn't obvious that they don't understand sh1t about the animals...
Our school had a incubation place. The eggs were brought in by local farmers and school students that raised chickens and we learned how reproduction and stuff and mitosis and miosis.
All the baby chicks we got to name it was adorable and they got to go back to their owners after about a week of staying in the school
PETA thought only having a bugs life wasn’t the best so they made their own comics on them!
7:50 because the vegan version of dairy products have different tastes, nutritional value and properties.
Fish can't be in a bowl, or small tank... the smallest size tank for the smallest goldfish is 20 gallons, but the kinds most people put in bowls (commet or common should be in at least a 75 gallon) actually a bowl is too small for any fish, the smallest tank for a fish is 5 or 10 gallons, but this would be avoided if people do their research before getting a fish. But I'm sure the peta comic says "all" fish belong in the ocean (when some are in lakes, and goldfish are motafied, and will destroy a whole ecosystem if released into the wild)
Now I feel guilty because I uploaded a video of some baby guinea pigs I saw at the pet store the other day. They all looked healthy, they were eating and popcorning and their cage was quite large, but you know how these animal wrongs enthusiasts are.
The one thing that bothered me was that the guinea pigs were all male and I was worried that if I brought a couple home they would get aggressive and attack each other as they got older.
pet stores are interesting because it’s up the actual store itself to treat its animals nicely, not necessarily the chain it comes from. i wouldn’t feel too bad about it, if they looked happy then they probably were. :)
Peta's relying on fear tactics and guilt tripping, and now they're targeting kids with this stuff?? If I was a young kid and I saw that comic about animal experimentation, I'd get the wrong idea and have nightmares over this stuff
I'm just going to say one thing regarding animal testing. You literally have no choice. We don't have supercomputers that can predict everything 100% yet. How else are you going to test new medicine? I think it's fair that the first testing trials are done on animals and not humans immediately. it would be worse if everything was done on humans.
Fun fact: despite Leafeon being made of leaves, it is omnivorous, and eats smaller Pokemon.
8:06 i’ve been to the wet market in Vietnam when I was in the countryside and I definitely sure there is no exotic animal meat selling there. Maybe the place they mention might be from China
About the cow comic: cows *need* to be milked for their own health and safety. I do agree that some farm setups are uncomfortable and harmful for the cows, but the solution isn’t “just stop milking them”. It reminds me a bit of how PETA claims it’s “cruel” to shear sheep for their wool, when in reality, wool overgrowth can cause them pain, skin disease, wool rot, and even death.
Fun fact: some animals live longer in captivity so asking the animals to not be used in zoos or anywhere they are taken care of and be free is making their shorter and making them die faster
And maybe even die from predators
We are top of the *food* chain because we are smart
Animals eat eachother and we are acting like being the predator and being one with nature is “bad”
I can tell you for a fact we don't laugh while we dissect animals.
We wheeze uncontrollably.
No but in all seriousness what? Nobody enjoy those labs. We actively dislike them but some of them are necessary. If you want a doctor to be able perform on you properly, they're going to have to have some experience on an animal in some way shape or form.
I hate it too. I hated the labs that involved frogs and rabbits because I love animals. But I also get why it can be necessary.
My dad does animal testing for cancer at a lab I won't name. The rats are put down humanly with gas, and yes their environments are cleaned regularly.
Does… does PETA not know anything about kids? From what they think is kid friendly, I would think not, but I still feel the need to ask into the void!!
fun fact there are low/no cruelty milk farms where any extra milk is sold after the calf are fed by their mama's
Peta goes off about animal rights and display Sam, the good guy whos their mouthpiece, improperly caring for his rat.
It's stunning.
Oh boy! A comic about chickens. Would be a shame if I... _unleashed my hyperfixation_
First up, when chicks hatch they don't automatically assume hens are their mothers (this is commonly known as imprinting) and will typically look for cover from the nearest thing the chick assumes is its parent. Usually this is a(n adult) person offering cover with an open palm or an object.
One thing to note though is that you should probably not keep chicks in a glass tank that looks like its meant for reptiles.
Mother hens don't carefully rotate eggs, or at least a majority of them don't (though if you're hatching it's recommended you do so). With chickens behavior differs from breed to breed and even chicken to chicken, so ultimately the hen herself won't automatically do this.
In some cases broody hens even leave chicks to die or peck them to death, but on the flip side some hens (usually if they're friends or the same breed) will 'co mum' chicks.
But overall there's a lot of negative information about the ethics of chick raising without getting to vital bits or _why_ they're really important. Or even positive information that encourages people to raise their own chickens or buy from more reputable sources.
As a vegetarian and a huge animal lover myself it not only breaks my heart but extremely angers me to see PETA giving animal-rights activists a bad name every day with their terrible tactics offensive shock factor valuing marketing, and all the terrible things they have done not mentioned in this comment. Just a note out there to say that not all of us should be associated with people like them or other people with similar tactics such as that vegan teacher. They do more harm than good. Have a great day everyone :)
RIP my grammar in that one sentence lmao I hope my message is still clear.
Well I mean, they're corpos. Don't expect anything good coming from corporation
2:38 NO WAY MAD RAT DEAD REFERENCE
Taking out the milk of a cow doesn't actually hurt them. It helps them because when they get overly full of milk that they start crying in pain. So you have to milk the cow.
this reminds me of the time some PETA idiots were saying "sheep shouldn't have their wool stolen", when they actually need to be sheared or they will die. Since the large amount of wool would attracted parasites and could cause infection, not to mention likelihood of overheating
Facts About Milk: Casein and whey protein are some major proteins of milk that a human needs(I swear I'm not biased). They make out about 80% of bovine milk. Another protein in milk is called calcium. This protein is needed to create better and stronger bones. It can also help prevent osteoporosis and bone fractures. We should all probably know that the milk I'm talking about comes from goats and cows. And before some of you guys jump up on me with of how milking cows is bad, and they should not be milked, well then that's what you think and you can stick with that, but there are some problems with this situation. On dairy farms, or just plain farms, cows need to be milked every 12 hours (4 am to 4 pm). The reason behind this is because if they are not milked like, at all, cows can get a disease called mastitis, which is deadly for the cow. Other things that can happen to the cow are infections, udder injury, and a painful death. I'm not saying you should always drink milk, because you don't. But the excess milk has gotta go somewhere.
Edit: Thank you for your time.
This is all true! More people honestly need to hear this
Calcium isn’t a protein,it isn’t even an organic molecule
Wild cows produce much less milk than domestic cows,that’s obviously why they don’t need to be milked
@@HYDROCARBON_XD but you pretty much still need it
They need to learn what “For Kids” means!!!
i think you forgot the "what"
@@_raboot_ what
@@MamutaBCU you forgot the word "what" - they need to learn what for kids means :)
@@alexthefemboy Whoops! Sorry about that
As a rat owner that small cage and wire wheel it can hurt their little feets and even break their legs rats need to be in groups or they will be lonely but I go to a local pet store and they are not in small cages and they are in big groups of 4 it's really sad that people do this pray for little sunshine and don't forget to protect the little ratti feet
The first comic makes me like... upset for reasons you may not except which is its enclosure seen in the background is actually inappropriate for a rat. Their cage needs to be bigger and have more verticality to it (rats love to climb). Furthermore it looks to be a tank style enclosure which rats CANNOT be kept it as those often lead to a potentially fatal respiratory condition. Lastly rats are extremely social and, unless they have aggression issues, they should always be kept with another rat. So yeah that whole comic went on such a tangent about how abusive animal testing is... while indirectly teaching kids exactly all the wrong ways one should take care of a rat.
5:14 We have Fallout VR tech of course with a vr headset, what do we use? SURGEON SIMULATOR!
2:22 as someone from North Carolina, people here are nice and wouldnt do stuff like this, not even college students
I’ve always thought of animal testing as a moral and situational gray area. In cases where animal testing can be avoided with no significant cost, it should obviously be avoided. But in cases where animal testing is required, if the animals isn’t particularly intelligent and the cause is great enough, and tests have been done previously to increase animal safety, I think it’s worth it.
Btw when a cow has a kid the milk can't be used so the baby cosa Have all the milk they need