Is A Touch Probe Necessary On Your CNC Router | Onefinity CNC
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
- New to using your CNC? Use this video to learn to zero your CNC router using an XYZ probe on your Shapeoko, Onefinity CNC, or any other type of CNC router. In addition, we experiment with setting your zero position WITHOUT the use of an XYZ Probe. This video belongs in the "CNC for Beginners" or "CNC For Dummies" categories! The CNC has definitely added productivity to my woodworking shop!
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00:00 Introduction
00:44 Setting Your Origin
01:42 Setting Your Probe
06:24 Setting Your XYZ Without A Probe
08:21 Cutting Your Project
09:26 The Results
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Good video! I'd like to add to the discussion, if I may. When everything goes right, manually setting your X, Y, and Z zero is a perfectly acceptable method. It's when things go wrong that the 3-way touch plate like the one you demonstrated really earns its keep. I've had the power go out in the middle of a project, and that throws all of your project settings right out the window. Having the ability to probe the X, Y, and Z locations after the power comes back on, then resume the project with reasonable certainty that the tool is going to cut where it's supposed to cut is worth its weight in gold. You can also start a project, cut to a point, shut everything down, then pick up where you left off at a later date or time without having to worry about finding your zero locations. All in all, having a 3-way touch plate like yours is an easy way to reduce the number of possible mistakes, recover from malfunctions, and avoid wasting potentially expensive materials.
Excellent point that I hadn't even thought of.
Mark, I use WinCNC which can save offsets for just that scenario, do you know if Mach 4 does? Anything critical and I always do that. I will say my ShopSabre has a tool height sensor which is invaluable for tool changes, especially if you’re Z’ing something that gets milled in the middle of the job.
@@5280Woodworking The short answer is yes, Mach4 can save up to 260 work/fixture offsets.
I am a little way behind you in my CNC journey having finished my shed and getting up and running in the last 2 weeks so having someone discoving stuff just ahead is great, seeing the comments section also helps a lot with people like Mark jumping in to pass on their experience, congrats on 2k
I’m glad other people are getting something from this too. I just try to learn new things every day, and other peoples input helps me as well
Great video, again. Thanks for the content. I'll be ordering my Onefinity soon. 👍
Great info... thanks. keep it up for 2023.
Thanks, will do!
Good video. Just a comment about measuring depth with your micrometer. Rather than doing what you did, open the jaws about 3/4" or 1" and then look at the tail end of your micrometer. There is a little rod that is sticking out the amount you opened the jaws. place the end of that tail into your routed groove and then slide the ruler part of the micrometer down until it touches the top of your piece. That is an accurate measurement of the depth of cut. It is easier than trying to eyeball the points.
Congratulations on breaking 2000 subscribers.
good catch. I always forget about that part of the calipers.
Enjoy the holiday Damian. See ya next year!
Thanks. You too.
Great video as always. A couple of keys points I'd like to add. Definitely invest in a joypad, driving it around with an xbox type controller where you can adjust the speed and slowly walk it down to the probe is so much easier. Sometimes with smaller tipped vbits I will hold the probe against the bottom of the bit and walk them both down to the surface, it's much easier to see the space between the bottom of the probe and the wood than trying to swing your head around sideways to see the tip of the bit. It does go faster when you are closer to the probe, but you can be 3/4" above the probe before it times out no finding the touch probe. Also if finding x,y,z the touch probe only works from the bottom left corner of the material. Also, touch probes really shine when you are using multiple bits. Setting multiple bits by hand you won't get the exact same results and you will be able to see a noticeable height difference. With the probe, however, you will get the same results, and much more quickly. Using my calipers to find the thickness and my probe for the height, it's cut so precisely that it cuts through the material but not the blue painters tape underneath holding it to the bed.
Good points. Thanks for contributing.
XYZ Manually is by far the best for me. I've had my machine run the bit across the probe and cause me nothing but troubles, My new method is finding the offset numbers and using them for zero. The Z position is quick enough with he paper method. Also if you have multiple cuts building jigs is a great method in getting the correct area evetime. Great video, you need a joystick controller more than a touch probe IMHO. Have a great Holiday
I'll have to look up the Paper Method. You're the second person to mention it. I decided to include the manual setup in the video because a previous viewer mentioned that people tend to use the XYZ Probe as a crutch, which got me thinking about different setup methods.
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I agree the probe is the fastest and easiest way to set the machine. I would suggest getting the game controller from Onefinity, it makes it so much easier to move the xyz around and set everything up. Great video
Yeah, you're right, I just haven't taken the time to order the controller. I'm probably the only CNC owner on earth that still just uses the touch screen.
Hoping you can shed some light on probing and settings. I use the probe block successfully on my OF woodworker and haven't any problems until recently. I set my stock point of origin in the center of the work piece (butcher block) as the stock was larger than the machine parameters. Setting Z axis was not an issue but now X/Y confused me . Do I set X/Y at (0) at the center of Origin in the middle of the stock. Thank you, Great videos by the way.
Yes, if you set your XY origin to center, you'll need to locate the center of your workpiece. I typically set it to the bottom left corner, as I think it's more consistent to do it that way, but realistically, if you're using a workpiece that's larger than what you're making, there should be a little wiggle room.
Thank you for your input, the project came out fine , scarry but fine. it was a10" long teak butcher block counter top and cutting the opening for the sink in 1.5" deep material. Hence I couldn't use the bottom right hand corner. I was afraid to hit the go button in someone else $800 material but all came out fine. Thanks again. @@SothpawDesigns
So my sister in law just bought this same machine. It works great, but! When she unplugs the machine than plugs it back in. It will loose it z touch off and she will plunge through her material and waste board. (All most to China) She's using a puck style touch probe. I sent her your link to the x y z probe you use.
Have you ever unplugged your Machine and went back later and lost your x y or z pick ups? Great info on your videos. Thanks for sharing.
I would assume that when she unplugs the machine, all settings clear out. Suggestion #1. Don't unplug the machine.......
Update on the sister in-law's onefinity cnc loosing its z position. We unplugged the servo motor plugs and reconnected them and that seem to fix the problem. Will see?
Thank you for your time sir. You now have a new fan of your vids.
Touch probes are over used IMHO. I set XY with known offsets or eyeball and Z with paper or a jewelers loop. Highly accurate and repeatable. For anything absolutely critical I use a gauge that is +\- 0.001. I’m just an experienced hobbyist, but I also Zero to the spoilboard 90% of the time as do most industrial shops.
Thanks for the insight.
Nice video but your audio volume is erratic.
Yup, thanks for letting me know. New software, still learning how to adjust things.
Get yourself a remote controller. A lot easier than using the touch screen.
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