TOP 5 WAYS to EARN $100,000 as a CNC MACHINIST | DN Solutions
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- Top 5 Ways to make $100,000 salary as a CNC Machinist in a CNC job shop.
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When the machinists increase productivity and profits it only means more bonuses for the management in most cases
How true . Make them a millionaire and you will be lucky to get a bonus
haha, my job in a nutshell.
There for, know the value of your work.
I just left a shop because all the Machinist got a raise except me only 3 of us...back story short CNC lathe guy only ran cnc Lathe (PUMA), mill guy only ran mill (HASS). I ran other HASS, Mazak (programed in Mazatrol programmer couldn't), manual Lathe and Mill, and a few other old machines. I was also only one who could probably run them so I left. Pay I was making was $20/hr start new job Jan at almost $30/hr its a job shop were ill get to learn the CAM programs hopefully.
Good hiring guys, keep crackin that whip!
The most important thing is that you must be working at a shop that will value your skills and have that room for growth! If you are working in a shop with shitty owners or bad management, learn all you can and seek out a better shop when your ready.
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Just got into better management. Feels good man
I taught myself conversational and then mastercam. 8 years in and I'll be making close to 90k this year. Mostly medical manufacturing. That's where the money is
Yup. Medical and aerospace are the money makers. Your run of the mill ISO9001 shops are not going to be able to compete.
Best way to make 100k as a machinist is to have a second job that pays 60k, Worked for a big shop as the lead programmer/QC manager, and sales. Brought them a 2 mil a year customer that they had been trying to get, but couldn't. I had some inside connections and made it happen. After a year of busting my ass, doing some really sexy programming, some of which got published in some trade pubs, I talked with the owner, with the 2 mil of completed PO's in my hand. He gave me some BS about they didn't know if they made money on the work or not. Took me to a cheap ass dinner as my "bonus". Quit the next day and went to sell cars.
fucked up smh
bingo I'm doing this on my weekends
😂🤣🤣
Good for you.
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As a CNC Supervisor a big part of my job was increasing efficiency and quality. That covers a broad scope of things from tooling, programming, fixturing, operator training, looking at better machines for different jobs etc etc etc. The rest of my day was quoting jobs, meetings, programming, purchasing tooling, materials etc etc etc. And last but not least supervising everyone.
My number one rule as a supervisor or manager you're only as good as the people that work with you. 💕
Got that right.
yes boss
I have a question bro, currently finished school at this place called NTMA training center for CNC machinist I’m considered a CNC machinist l more like a CNC operator and i have this job currently getting paid $20 but I want to program and also learn QC but I’m. It sure where I want to go in my career!?! Any tips? Was working on Solidworks but it’s difficult a bit tryna learn off RUclips but I really wanna make money in this trade
Any vacancy there
You still don't make $100k though.
-No.1 >> Start your own machine shop.
Yeah basically! I've halved (on a bad day) or cut down run times to a third or less (on a good day) every single program that I got my hands on that I didn't originally create at every company I've been to. You know what that's earned me at most of these companies? Hardly 💩. But that has given me the greatest gift of all. The frustration to feel fed up enough to the point where I've made my own business plan and look forward to competing with them in the open market where I know I'll shove their faces in the dirt. 🤙see ya and your dirt programmers out there soon boys... most programmers are incompetent.
@@phuckyocouch9098 learning about machining as a hobby and i often see hate towards programmers at manufacturing shop.. Why?
@@whatever_12 it's because when they're terrible at their jobs it makes everyone on the shop floors job harder and constantly in jeopardy due to the crashes the mistakes cause if you don't happen to catch it in time. When a programmer constantly screws up a machinist is bound to miss one of his mistakes eventually. Usually managers side with the programmer in these situations as well. They tend to say things along the lines of "well you should have proven out the program properly." Watch that happen enough times and the programmer will build a reputation with the rest of the shop and people become resentful/don't want to run that guys programs.
The problem is I've really only worked with two or three programmers that I really hold their abilities in high regard out of the dozens and dozens I've seen come and go. I'm sure most people in this industry have similar experiences.
@@phuckyocouch9098 yeah I concur, to many shops are filled with bloat and waste and as a programmer operator, I've brought in work and found employees, none of it earned me anything except false promises. I just left a decent shop after being pushed to the edge and never receiving any of the promises after fulfilling my end of the deal . I think working for legacy or shops that were bought or handed to peoples kids is creating massive problems in small shops across North America.
@@daryllemire6503 all of the worst problems I've had are at shops that were passed down to children of the owners. They never understamd how difficult it is to become even a half decent programmer. It's kinda mind boggling because you'd think they'd figure it out after seeing how difficult it is to find someone who even knows how to do it let alone do it well. Don't even get me started on multiple axis.
I like your point of multiple ways to do the same thing. I repair CNC machines. Learning about all aspects including operation and setup helps me. I still have much to learn. Love your videos.
As a small job shop owner, best advise is to run. If its money then you will be better of as a welder, electrician, hvac, or even a plummer. To get all the experience necessary for 100K, which you wont get, you have spent decades. As for the people suggesting to open your own joint, investing 100's of thousands not to mention a crap load of taxes, epa, waste, tooling and everyday expenses to charge $80/hour is crazy. That is the going rate for non Aerospace and medical fields. If you do decide to get into those fields, then set aside another 1/4 million, start your divorce papers, brush up on your ass kissing, because that's what it takes to get into those fields. Not what you know but who!!!
100% wise words.
Literally everything you've ever touched involved a machine shop and the industry has made a ridiculous number of millionaires. No one would do it if what you say is true. Being a good machinist and good business professional is rare combo and that's the real problem. So many people just don't know how to manage well. I would bet my ridiculous salary that nearly all shops that go under could have survived if someone who could really manage and lead others was at the helm (I realize that economic downturn closes a number of shops as well). I'm not claiming to posses either skill set. Just calling like it is. Your opinion is very one sided and clearly inaccurate or you wouldn't have "stuff". You think folks are just out there making stuff for fun. Starting a business to lose money... The answer is no.
I partially see and understand your comment. However, you shouldn't be selling/bidding jobs by the hour. It should be per part or lot based on total contract. If someone wants a part that takes an hour to mill, that part is not $80's (using your number) since there are other factors involved taking up more time. It could take you 5 hours to design the program and then an hour to tool it plus clean up and setup, plus the material costs. There are other miscellaneous things too. So a 1 off custom part should actually cost close to $2,000. Now, if they want 100,000 parts all the same, you still need to build in all the other costs, plus tool replacement/wear, quality control expenses, loss due to parts milled wrong, machine depreciation, building overhead, material costs then salary and owners profit. The total per unit billed should be a minimum of 5 times the labor expense. The client shouldn't be seeing a cost per hour only the cost per unit/contact. Those 100,000 units taking a minimum of 1 hour each at a labor rate of $40/hour including all taxes and benefits to the employee to produce takes 100,000 hours. That 100,000 hours should be multiplied by $200/hour and therefore the bill should be $20,000,000. Maybe a bit less if you need to give a discount. If a tool, programmer, fitter or anything else can make the job faster, that makes each part cheaper. Keep the savings in house and/or share the profits with the worker(s). Buyers usually don't know the costs associated with making the pieces. They only know they want the parts made and how much overall they are willing to pay. They will give the contract to 1 of the following companies: the cheapest, the quickest, the best quality, the owners buddy or the biggest briber.
Welders in shops make $20-40 per hour typically plus OT. Electricians at a company make similar $25-$40/hour, HVAC and plumbers too. Of course these change geographically.
Bingo. I've seen enough guys in their 50's that know more than I ever will about machining, but only making a handful of dollars an hour more than me to know this trade is absolutely not worth the time unless you just can't get enough of running a machine.
If you just want good pay and a steady career, anything is better than machining. It's unfortunate and I know that the people who are really devoted to this trade hate hearing it, but it's God's honest truth. This trade is going to have a really hard time attracting people in the coming decades when they're making more in a warehouse with full benefits.
It's just not sustainable in a country like the US where over %80 of the country lives paycheck-to-paycheck (US Bureau of Labor Statistics, 2019), God knows what that number is these days... And of course robotics companies will continue to innovate and try to plug that gap in manpower with robo-Randy's which will ultimately drive earning potential down even further for everybody but the select elites at the top who've already been at this for decades prior.
Oh well.
“You can learn Cnc programming in a few hours”
Yeah the definition of it
The savings a good machinist/programmer provide do not go to that person. They go to the owner/CEO/project manager.
That’s where knowing your worth and knowing how to market yourself comes into play. If you prove yourself to be good at saving the company time and money, then it’s time to try to market yourself as a process engineer or project manager either at your current job or somewhere new. I think the main point of this video is to make yourself as valuable as you can and then the next step is to use that as leverage to get yourself into a higher paid position. That’s the step that some people struggle to get to I think.
That's why the threat of going to a competitor has so much power.
Here are the REAL 5 ways to make $100,000 as a CNC machinist
1 Work the 92 hours a week they KEEP asking you to do and act like you like it !!!!!!!!!!!
2 Blow the owner whenever possible
3 Get a good part time job to go along with your 92 hour work week . P.S. keep pictures of your kids growing up , thats all you will see of them
4 Steal as much as you can from the shop and sell it on the internet
5 When you get lung cancer from all the poison you breath in , get a good lawyer , you should get a million out of that
Buddy you are spot on!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
#4 😂
@@tomashallengren6436 Good way to get fired. Unemployment doesn't pay that much.
Accurate AF !!
No.
Learn your craft and invest in your own equipment. Everyone should own a business, then you charge for YOUR skills, and don't have to settle for what someone else values you at!
as a good manual lathe guy I made about 75 - 85k. that is good enough and I enjoyed going to work everyday. but then again this CNC guru thing is attractive.
This trade will pay the bills and put food on the table for most, but keep in mind if you ever think of starting your own shop my advise is you will need atleast a 5 axis turn mill to make the parts that pay the big bucks and will have to be ISO certed to bid on the contracts for these jobs, also Cad/Cam licenses, tooling, cutting fluids, osha permits,plus rent and utilitie. That right there is ALOT of money to just start, money that the average 20/hr machinist is not able to accumulate, this is the reality and the truth my brother. There are other trades like plumbing, electrical or hvac that pay alot more, cannot be outsourced and doesn’t take a fortune to start your own business. Im just saying, been doing this for over 20 years so I know what im talking about.
Absolutely this! My soon to be brother in law left his corporate gig in October to start up his painting company. Total all in cost, he has about 10-15k in equipment. He's already killing it and approaching his salary of his former job only 3 months in.
You're absolutely right . Machining used to pay well when I started in 76 . Pay was equal to RN pay back then , certainly not anymore except rare exceptions. To do it all over again I would have done something else.
This! The machinist Trade is a joke. I graduated in 2008 and had a thirst for knowledge and I never once got the nut I needed to feel successful. Forget this trade. Let me tell you about the amount of money you can make with a box truck. And a newspaper add moving people. Machining was a pipe dream thats wages that got wiped out in 2008. These companies now want you to v9me in as 3 year+ temps
The main goal when you starting a such machine shop you must have a good tight connections with aerospace industry to a get contracts.
No CNC machinist is making $100k/year unless they own the shop. I mean realistically 90%+ of CNC machinists are just operators and you have a CNC supervisor thats making that $100k while the operator makes like $20-$25/hour. I worked as an operator for years in many different shops, i could do programing, operating, drafting, lathe, verticle mill and TIG welding and i didnt make $100k/year. Its a very underpaid profession.
I make over 100k a year but I do it through hella OT 🤣
That's why my ultimate plan is to open up my own shop.
@@KM-bc3lm Yup thats about standard. Unfortunately.
@@KM-bc3lm I feel that, I have a family as well and add in a 2.5 hour daily commute on top of my 12 hour shifts
Wanna see my check stubs 😉 #SixFiggaNigga
Wow, I was just thinking about jumping into Cnc because of tech etc… lmao I just spent 30-40 min reading y’all’s comments and thank you!! For being honest and it totally makes sense because that’s how it is in every other trade, even if u bring production up and cost down, they just tell you NICE WORK! And ur supervisor that don’t do shyt is eating the big peace of pie… so I see what y’all talking about and it’s sad man… I understand everyone’s points from the bottom of ladder to the top. Top be slowing down machines and not wanting new tech/ways of doing it because if they are on top with control and let it go then unfortunately their jobs are in jeopardy, then the bottom person slows the machine down because they ain’t stupid, they know approximately how much each peace cost/time/profit and then they see their paycheck at 15-20$ so they say hmm I can make hundreds of parts in a week but with me making 7-10 parts pays my weekly pay… then why the helll would I feed this greedy pig even if I make him just 1 hundred parts knowing I can make double/ triple that weekly, HE STILL BANKS!!! and let’s not add that there’s like 5-10 extra machines lol dammmm I was allll into it too reading and dreaming about cnc…. Nope I’m good I’m that person that hates the person on top holding down the business and pay of everybody because he’s content on what he’s making… can’t stand it and won’t place myself in the situation because it won’t end right…
Mad respect for doing this ! Fun to see people with same passion
I have 6 cnc machines and after overhead and income, I make about 75k. I had to pay for all my machines at the tune of almost 3M. I don't get free or discounted machines or free or discounted tooling or free or discounted inserts. I'm not living the fantasy. I need no advice. The end.
Then you are pricing wrong. A person mowing lawns can make $75+ per hour by themselves using a $3,000 mower and $1,000 in trimmers and blowers using a $5,000 truck with minimal insurance expenses and some gas money. That is $75 per hour for 40+ hours and 26 weeks in the north and 30+ in the south. Minimum of $78,000 per year gross minus gas and other expenses is about $70,000 per year pre-tax working 6 months.
@@shannonp4037 you can't outsource lawnmowing to China or India. My company is forced to compete with insanely low cost producers. I have to price what I have to price.
Start a RUclips channel and start teaching online like these guys are and maybe eventually you can free stuff too
Top tip on how to make 100k: dont be a machinist. I swear they are some of the most underpaid workers in engineering
Especially in the UK...most I've seen over here is equivalent to about $65k
@@Bawbag0110 yeah exactly, most of the money is made through overtime which means your basic pay is going to be much lower anyway
100k doesn't go as far as it did 10 years ago.
@@Bawbag0110 most of them in the USA are basically 32, 50k if u get lots of yrs of experience
@@christiantough5 I get equivalent to about $48k...maybe a bit more depending on overtime
Titan seems on the surface (I only say that because I don't have first hand knowledge) to be incredibly generous to his employees. We need more of this in the world. If ever my small shop grows, I aspire to be able to pay people VERY well. All too often company owners and management see all the money. I def understand that leadership is worthy of a good salary and the owner took all the risk so they can do whatever they want. But I wanna be the guy who makes everyone a ton of cash. Seems like Titan has this philosophy as well. No reason everyone at the company can't be rolling.
Take it from me, he’s great!
He also kinda has to pay real fuckin well... He's running it in the Democratic People's Republic of Kalifornistan...
Sure it's a great location for work with many large clients, but you have to make like 90k to have a small studio apartment in most Kali cities...
We are not in california anymore, we are in Flower Mound, Texas. Just north of dallas
@@barrysetzer Wise move on his part. I've got some family down that way, I'd love to tour the shop some day..... Just sayin....
@@matthewlee8917 he's able to pay well because he doesn't have the astronomical cost of tooling which he gets free from kennemetal. It's a fairy tale. He won the business lottery. 99.999999% of the other shops like mine do not get to live in fantasy world.
I’m a month into machine operating. I’m machine operating in a aerospace company. I’m really enjoying it can’t wait for what the future holds
Solvay?
#1 Programmers set the pace in the shop. Best machines and tooling don't.
#2 Somebody that can show up put everything together and make it a learning experience for the apprentices while motivating them to the next level.
These will get you money and a spot in your company no matter what your producing.
That’s part of our Performance Review process. How well you do your job and how well did you do to train those under you to take over your job
You forgot to mention the 70+ hr work week for that 100k
I work 50-56 hours a week and push around 76k-80k a year but making 100k means 12 hour shifts and weekends . No manufacturing company I know works only 40 hours and makes 100k not even the engineers and they work 50 hours plus lol.
@@dortiz81706 - So what are you an hour if I may? What state?
@@greeneyesfromohio4103 26.50 and live in Texas 10 years experience.
@@dortiz81706 oof 10 years and you know cam? You should have broken 30 at least. I'd start lookin somewhere else.
@@phuckyocouch9098 nah not worth it I’m 5 mins away from work I rather stay lol maybe later
I do contract programming, fixturing and set up for several companies who can't afford a full time programmer, mostly 3 and 4 axis mills. $50/hr with a 3 hr minimum. I do the CAD/CAM work for the part, fixtures and get the job push button operator ready. I have my own Haas CNC mill for playing with and testing programs before I go to the shops. This could be a great business if I were not wanting to stay more retired than not.
Hi I'm from CT, been machining 15 Year's. How do you start this
the way to make good salary as a machinist is to find a shop that lets you do set ups AND programming even at an entry level. Getting hands on experience with setting up tooling and fixtures based off of advanced set up sheets and actually programming parts with a CAM package. The next step is to move on to a company with a LARGE shop or production facility that is grossing millions or even billions per year. The turn over rates are high and only getting higher. They will hire you as a programmer and give you a generous salary. Be aware that it is demanding in ways that you can't imagine.
In Australia workshop fitters earn similar to a truck or a forklift driver, to earn 100k you must be an airline pilot or a dentist.
Maybe Titan can pay this being a key supplier to spacex, exception, but not the normal scenario.
I work with Inconel and Waspaloy everyday...I enjoy being a machinist even though the wages are not so competitive
San Diego wages for CNC sucks big time! I'm thinking of moving to L.A. or another state if someone makes a good enough deal.
Worked for a company that became a billion dollar annual company while I was there, learned 5 different trades while I was there, maintained annual certs each year for them but never received more than 2.5-3.5% annual merit raise...
Yeah. That's a bullshit raise when this November to last November, the United States has seen the highest inflation rate increase ever recorded in our history of 9.7%.
I work for a small machine shop that just tranfered owners. I have been there almost 5 years and I moved from the debur guy to the main mill machinist here in that time and its pretty much all thanks to your academy. Ive been having problems with debating on how a part should be ran. Now this is me with only 5 years experience in the trade vs someone with 40 years in. We butt heads alot on some things and Im sometimes forced to try something out then ask for forgiveness later. What should someone in my position do when the previous owner doesnt want to push limits and try new fixturing out? Also to add on to that the new owners haven't really been involved in any type of manufacturing aside from engineering. So they are wanting parts quoted that we may not be able to do and I am doing my best to keep production going because i dont feel comfortable with anyone else starting my machines. Like i said im very new to this trade but the academy has helped me shoot up the ranks so to speak. Im just frustrated that certain things are the way they are and I am in no real position to implement changes. All i can do is give my opinion and help make things more efficient in what i do. I know this is a lot and more of a rant but i would really like some outside looking in opinions of where i stand. Thanks again for the academy. I wouldnt be where i am today without it.
Ur job right now is to point out the mistakes that the programmers is making. Don’t need to tell them how to do it cuz u need to learn the machinist way of talking. Spend ur extra time learning the G codes n M codes. Take classes about programming. If ur willing to learn( but on ur time. )U will get ur chances
I just started as the manufacturing engineer for a small shop. I'm the youngest guy there with the exception of the owner and I'm 52. Everyone else is in their 60's. I'm trying to introduce modern cutting techniques and tooling but, running into a stone wall because the guys on the floor are very set in their ways. I've talk with my new boss about getting me on a machine when I have some down time so I can show these guy that it works and works great. Hopefully it will open their minds...
Careful because even if you find a way that is better the majority of the time they still won't use it due to ego's on the shop floor. For a lot of engineers they stop learning and believe they have mastered the trade. And if they've already mastered it then there is nothing you can show them.
@@cygnascent Crabs in a boomer bucket.
the old ways work. go work in a shop where that sort of thing is encouraged.
@@cygnascent The new owner and I understand this isn't going to happen overnight and we need to start getting new blood in to start transitioning. We have a guy starting after the new year in his 30's so, we're hoping he will be able to lead the floor in 2 years when the current lead retires. Most of the guys there are 2-5 years from retirement.
@@douglaspierce7031 I start at a new company after the new year and I'm in my 30s...
Very good video with good advice. I really liked watching this and even shared it with a valued friend.
Titan, I hope you evaluate your company culture and see if your people are using your hands too much to tap the part down rather than using a hammer. This practice can have cumulative affects on your health.
Merry Christmas , great video as always!
NUMBER 6: Be humble.
We work in a trade with a higher level than most jobs
A lot of machinist/programmers get very cocky and arrogant over time because we all know we create crazy stuff not everyone can make.
Don't get the arrogance get you, stay humble and KNOW what your weak points are and own your mistakes
Im actually doing a video on EXACTLY that in the coming weeks. So accurate
Correct
First let me say, Titan for POTUS....Much respect to Titan and his crew. The problem is the area you live in will dictate the wages you can expect. My area thinks 21 dollars an hour is a grp. Also I have worked for many people who couldn't do the work I do. They were the managers who made 100000+. They thought by telling me I made good parts and did good work. That I was knowledgeable and proficient at machining, that would be good enough. While they got bonuses and promotions.
I just started working in a shop that makes a lot of different parts from lots of materials. Lathe, Milling, 3 and 5 axis. We aren't allowed to talk about pay, lol. I think I understand what's going on here from reading through all the comments. It's still a good, honest job so I'll see where I can go with it.
Did you sign an NDA regarding wage? USA? I have replies turned off anyway but this sounds illegal to be barred from divulging wage, especially personal pay.
I fully agree most programmers will only cut a part one way and never try anything new. If you ask them to try it another way they usually will get very upset and say this is the only way. I personally have been programming G code for 32 years and I've been able to do things with sub programs and Macros that the cam guys don't want to try.
been wanting to change careers and machinist/programmer has always been on my mind, wat do you recommend for someone who is sorta starting out?
Basically…….learn everything inside the trade and you can earn a fraction of what your boss makes.
Lol...just hustle bro...watch more gary v and drink kale shakes
As both a former owner and machinist, I can tell you with one hundred percent certainty that this trade is the hardest earned income for the knowledge and ability there is. As a business there’s little margin and extreme risk. The major problem in a nutshell is the world got very small. Containerization and communication means things can be made anywhere and that means that you are competing with low wage/low regulation locations. Can you make over 100k as a machinist? Sure, but you won’t have a life and one major screwup and you’re caned. Can you make millions as a shop owner? Sure, but a major event can erase decades of profit. Young people stay away from mechanical engineering and the machinist trades.
Sir! God bless you! May He bless you and your generations. You are on the right track. I have shared your story with my principal at the school I teach art in. I am praying our paths can cross.
Thank you!
Go back to school and become a Computer Engineer. Thats what I did. Now i work as an electromechanical engineer.
How much does that pay and what do you do in that position?
@@ericl3272 Looking at 80k-100k to start and 125k+ after a couple years. Get into a good company and $150k-200k after a few years.
@@ericl3272 Blauschuh is right.
I really appreciate and respect you guys
Thanks for the pep talk, but I am one of those machinist that steps up to the challenge and solve problems. My main machine is a large 5-face bridge mill. When the other guys on there smaller machines have problems and the head programmer can’t answer them, they come to me. Over the summer, they moved me to a smaller 5 axis mill. There I learn that the post they were using for the last ten years required them to enter the gauge lengths into the cam system so it would not crash. I knew this wasn’t right, but I have never ran a machine with a control like this. So I contacted our cam reseller about this and they could not give me a answer. So I stuck my nose the the book, and less than a week later I knew exactly what the problem was. When there is a Job that needs to get done, I will hang around on the second shift, sometimes for additional 4 hours l, to ensure the guys on second have a good handle on things After all of this, I manage to gross 65k last year. I did manage to pull in 65k last year, pretty good for Grand Forks North Dakota, but honestly, I am getting tired.
This sounds great! But its not reality in 99.9999995% of the shops around. Think $15 an hour as the average. Often working with drunks, idiots, and some of the worst human beings on earth. Shop down the street was paying $13-14 an hour and lowered everyone to $11. Pretty much any other skilled trade pays better. Often much better. McDonalds near me is paying $14 with free meal and college tuition. Last place I worked at, the owner drove a brand new corvette, couple harleys, Gave $.50 raise. "thats all I can afford".
you are an American Mechanical Hero!!
Love NIMS Got so many skills and Certs
This is a lot of solid advice
I have guys making over 100k a year. They are working overtime but not crazy. Not expected to know programming or fixturing. We are looking to hire, if you are in the north Philly area get in touch with me.
I worked as a machinist in a shop for 5 years after going to tech school and getting trained in precision machining. after the 5 years, I was making $16.50 an hour. I quite, because I knew I should be making twice that.
I’ve been most of these thing, but I still haven’t made it up to the program room. Always fixing the head programers mistakes. Boss refuses to recognize me.
Boss refuses to recognize you because he wants to still keep paying you low wages and you are far more valuable to him as a problem solver.
You need to hit the job market.
You dropped this 👑 know your worth king go and ask what you deserve
Take classes, get certificates, put resume out there
Every new part will have mistakes in the program. It's almost impossible to avoid. If your programmer is good those mistakes will be mostly feed and speed related though. If you're a good machinist you will be able to optimize those at the machine. If you can't do that then you're not a machinist, that's your job as one. If I had a dollar for every machinist that complained for having to increase a feed or speed by 10% on a new program I'd have enough to buy my own mori. And that's on a good day! Most machinists will reduce your feeds and speeds by half before they'll ever increase because they're bad at their jobs.
It's time to leave my friend
I am from 🇮🇳India really like your video's, 🙏 Inspiring
Job shops in my area are paying like 15 an hour. There is no contract shop around here where you will make 100k.
In Texas I presume?….is that $15 an hour to be a first year CNC machinist or?
@@greeneyesfromohio4103 Tennessee actually. And nobody around here gets paid much unless they are working at Y12 or something similar
I think wages will go further up at the same time number of machinist required will reduce to run a shop. Say from 20, 40 or 60 years from today the CNC machines will be lot more complicated with end-to-end automation and another big thing will be Artificial Intelligence. It will become far more specialized field than it is today.
So machinist of the future not only have to know how to handle each unit separately, but also understand how to orchestrate the entire production line with automation. Not just that, on top of it understand how AI can be involved, tweaked and executed.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all!
Dropping knowledge worldwide harder than Santa dropping presents. Merry Christmas to everyone.
Note to self: free cnc programming academy!!!!!!!
Merry Christmas Titan family crew and friends
Same to you!!!
So, the idea of this video is to tell us that if we want to make 100 000$ we need to become more valuable for the company, which means we need to make the company more money. Why should we let somebody to decide what size of the pie they let to share with us?
You cant get rich working for someone else....
While i appreciate the sentiment, that's flat out wrong.
@@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 Keep dreaming
I have earned over 100k as a programmer for 4 different companies. No problem. May not be a millionaire but im comfortable
#1 work overtime
I must be one lucky son of a bitch. I've barely got 20 years in the trade and I'm well north of $100K. I'd have to do the math on it, but I'd be willing to bet that the first job that I programmed and set up at my shop has paid my salary for the 3+ years I've been at the shop. That job/machine is still running to this day. We just bought another machine just like it to make another version of the same part. We have 17 swiss machines at my shop and at one point 6 of those machines were running jobs that I had programmed/set up/proven out and dialed in for reduced cycle time. The rest of the machines are running production on parts that the customer buys as fast as we can make them.
Can a guy on the floor that just does set ups and running machines make $100K? It's hard to do without a doubt. To make that kind of money you need to have a larger impact on the bottom line of the company than setting up/running a few machines can have. If you have the skill set to be handed a print and can turn around and hand back finished parts, then yes making $100K is possible in the right shop.
A word for the people that are down on the trade. Working at a ISO9001 shop is basic now adays. If you want to make more money you have to step up to a AS9100 or ISO13485 shop. That is where the money is today. Job shops without advanced certifications are just too common and have too much competition to be able to pay good salaries. They have to keep the bottom line in check because a job that goes bad or machine that gets crashed could ruin their profitability. The margins are too thin to be able to absorb too many people making high dollar salaries.
lol this is hilarious ! i love machining but im happy i retired from it years ago. made my money and ran !
Merry Christmas
I am earning more then $80000 fixing machines after people trying to earn $100000 as a machinist.
I'm awful proud of ya!
Oh good for u bro.😁
If you are that good, best thing to do its to start your own business, because your own business will certainly grow up.
Five ways to make $100K a year in CNC machining?
1) Have a rich parent who owns a lucrative CNC shop that passes on and names you successor...
2, 3, 4, 5) Be the successor of a rich parent that passed on whom was an extremely successful middleman that offshored all the work to CNC shops in China, India, and South America, all for pennies-on-the-dollar labor costs - and then turned around and had the finished products shipped back to the US while marking up the price to twice, if not three times the amount as if they were made domestically in-house...
I finished trade school and started a job in May, I'm at 54k around there. A lot of different places to work with a bunch of opportunities to make money.
How much you pay for trade school
#1 Do what Titan did, bust your ass for capital, and start your own shop. The economy is rigged for "workers" and 100k is a pipe dream for most, even if your good.
Exactly gotta run your own shop!
Absolutely, even if you start small in your garage! Tormach/Mini Mill whatever you can make happen. Get making parts and build a customer base.
@@matthewlee8917 the most expensive part is running your 3phase or converting it and cutting your runtime.... it's about 20k per pole you have to put up. The amount of poles depends on the distance to the nearest connection. You think machines are expensive? Wait till you have to run some 3 phase or buy a spot that already has it.
You know the way they say double your initial estimate for any real estate build project? If it's a machine shop project triple it.
It really isnt worth having a shop. The startup $$ is absurd and way too many people already doing it. We have the machine shop infrastructure based on 30-40 year old need. When the plants moved oversees it left all the supporting shops behind. Cutting eachothers throats. Go into other trades. Plenty of them and they all pay better. And you dont have to spend $75K on a vmc.
@@frankgrabasse4642 how many shops have you had?
never heard on 100k as a machinist.. maybe in high areas of living i guess. but in Detroit. I see about 45-60k a year. never heard of salary machinist. but i guess i learn something new.
My cousin runs a cnc boring mill at a company right by dtw airport in Michigan..he makes 39 hr and works 52.5 a week with weekends off..he clears like 115k..Michigan actually has many companies that pay..don’t waste your time at a company that’s offering you 25/26/27….30 minimum..and 10hours ot ea week you’ll hit 85…
Been a machinist since 98. No company gives a rats beehind about their machinists. You have to fight or quit to get your recognition and move up the money totempole in this trade. The times you spend sitting and waiting that extra year for a lie the company is selling you on is a year you could have spent getting into a better company. Never trust upper management. They have absolutely no clue what we do. And they have no clue how to properly care and compensate for our hard work. A 60 minute lunch break once a month won't cut it!
I can't sleep. Been awake since 2:45am running through verbal scenarios I'm possibly gonna be having with my supervisor, operations manager and site leader at 7am on how they are trying to get away with such a great review and horrible merit increase. Should NOT have to fight for this! I'm gonna be 50 in 2 weeks and I do not wanna have to be jobless during my birthday. This adds to the misery I deal with wishing I would have chosen a different career path in my late 20's. This company without me is gonna be in so much hot water with their customers and they know it but yet they choose to play games with the only guy in the whole shop that can write programs, re-do damaged fixtures, start-up, program and run new machines that are bought in from sister companies and has a great record of training new guys straight out of trade school.
Be very careful with who you're dealing with out there. They all wear these rose colored glasses and they don't care about us!
Sounds like u know everything but sale yourself. Anyone is replaceable. I think u should play the same games as them. Tell them u find a job that pays more with better benefits but u really like working here cuz the people . If u really think that ur a good ass machinist than they won’t let u walk.. it’s actually machinist market right now
@@oulinsaeteurn9078 I went this similar route you are mentioning and the boss said if you bring in an offer letter from another company then he might be willing to sit down and talk again. That never happened. I went in daily after that for 4 or 5 weeks looking upset and depressed on what they did to me. They called me into the office. I told them how I felt cheated and they basically said they didn't care. I re-wrote a program they we were having a problem with. Got it dialed in nicely and they didn't like the fact that it took scrapping a part or two so that was their excuse to fire me. They wanted me out regardless at that point. A month later I got a job at a much better company, 2 dollar raise and a 10 minute drive away. F-em! That's how you sometimes have to play the game. I still talk to old coworkers. They said nothing has changed. More people are quitting. 3 people from that place are new coworkers at my new place.
@@cranke99unfortunately this is how you move up the wage ladder , you can lie and say you have a new job, and they match it or u go..or you actually find a job paying more and leave. Stay there a year and start looking again , rinse repeat..before u know it you’ll have a good hourly wage ..do not stay anywhere too long until, your at a wage you can live with , the. Back off and stay there a little bit…#1 thing people do at jobs is get all scared about leaving and stay way too long and don’t make any money…gotta pack and leave
A job shop is awesome. That's where I learned the most. I wish the pay reflects that. I just need to advance my CNC programming skill.i have decent advance fixturing skill. I'm trying to apply at these advanced companies the one's that pay $20-$40. But seems like I'm hitting a road block. I had my fair share of $16/hr-$18/hr and they want me back but the pay isn't reflecting that they want me back.
I'm addicted to making parts faster. And number six, own and manage your own company.
Took me 5 years in the trade and I made it, 6 figure salary! Boom! Thank you Titan for the inspiration and the motivation.
Who do you work for the higest i ever see for cnc machinest is 70k
@@lenkeyboi6933 I was doing travel for Flextrades, pay ranges $36-$38 plus $315 a week per diem and Flextrades pays hotel and $.62 a mile to location and home when contract is completed. Just finished a 10 month contract in Kansas. Back home now and will be working for local place.
First of all, congratulations on reaping what you've sewn. If you don't mind me asking, what age were you when you started and what level of education did you have prior? I am 22 and I'm about to finish a bachelors, but I'm frustrated and unenthused by my job opportunities. It's long been a dream of mine to make even half of a 6 figure salary in the trades, especially this one, let alone 6 figures.
@@FirstnameLastname-lx4jl Thanks! I was working as a paramedic in the ER and was tired of the insanity of healthcare. I was 51 yrs old. So I quit and went to Georgia Northwestern Technical College full time. I had college classes that transferred so that cut a year off of the program I was in, Machine tool and CNC Technology. I spent 2017 in school and got a job in a small shop about 6months after I started school(told them I would sweep chips if that’s what it took to get in a shop and start learning hands on, I was making $11 and hr to start. I finished school in December and went full time with that company but they could only pay me $14hr. I found a job making $17 and hour in 02/18 in aerospace as a machinist(just north of Atlanta). My Husband got a promotion for work which required us to move to south Alabama but it was too good to pass up and I had a job before we moved making $21. Aug 2022 was when I went over $100k, so just over 5 years. I did it by taking a position as a travel machinist. Did that for a year and came home after a contract and had a company reach out to me about a job so I interviewed. Didn’t think I would get the same $ not traveling but I am getting the same hourly rate(not the per diem because I am home but I like being home and the hrly rate is great. I won’t like I work my butt off, I do anything that needs to be done, I stay late, I always offer to help others at work, in short, I’m there to help the company make money. They make money = I make money lol I don’t sit around on my phone when I have a long run time on parts, I’m either sweeping, mopping, wiping down machines anything I can do to stay busy. Attitude and a willingness to learn goes a long way. I may not know what some machinist know but I’m gonna be doing my best to learn everything I can and work my tail off.
@@dawnstaten5191 what a legend
Eh titan I want to see some videos of how you guys tap on the machines to depth. I haven't seen your videos of that yet and I know some real good tools and ways of taping to depth but sometime I feel like its a secret no one knows about, let's see you way of taping on the machines and not having to fish out taps.
I agree with your advice, to the extent that all 5 are requirements IMHO. And yes a Machinist with those skills should be making the big bucks.
But...
80% of the self proclaimed "Machinists" out there are actually "Machine Operators". And generally will not make anywhere near $100K.
There is a huge difference between the 2
what's the difference ? 🤔
@@Maaaaaax-07 knowledge and experience in a wide range of machines, tools, setup, etc.
I made over 100K for several years before I retired two years ago. It all depends on the shop you work for. I worked in the nuclear power industry. We rebuilt huge electric motors for the power plants all over the country. There is constant work in this field. You never get laid off.
What company was this for?
I just started working for a similar company as a CNC Mill Machinist, I actually was hired on to run a CNC Lathe but because I had interest and they needed help I was put in the milling department on day one, now its been a few months and I normally set up and run a VF2 but Ive also had my fair share of time on the Horizontals and even our brand new 5 Axis. Although I dont think anything we make is for anything nuclear we make large bearings for those huge electric motors you were talking about.
@@nickdovgi Do you have and advice or know of any learning resources for Cnc, Cam, Cad, g code? I just started my first job with a manufacturing company dealing with Cnc machines.
@@luqmuhmmad2616 Go on Titans website, his academy has a bunch of short vifeos that will teach you anything you need to know. I am still learning programming myself.
Great stuff!!!
You're the greatest machinist alive titan !!🔥💙
I'm 26 and a CNC Machinist level 2 where I work. I make $24.75 an hour in Dayton Ohio. I work 50 hours a week and overtime on top of that. You can live on that but not be rich.
In 2008 I got lucky, all the top payed guys in the job shop got the boot. The shops had no choice back then. I was not there yet money wise, I kept my job and moved up if you will. So after 30+ years my salary is under 6 figures. Which I feel good about :-) plus we have a job shop where everyone gets along very well. That right there makes up for being so called under payed.
It’s really frustrating when you work at a shop! When they don’t wanna teach you other challenging stuff! Like oh it’s my job! I don’t wanna waste my time on you!
Agree
Is this with or without OT? Cause we have a guy like this at our shop, works crazy OT, and is not bring home 100k
Really, Good And Important Information...
Love this video 🤠👍😻
Thanks Titan
1: Don’t even think about it if you’re over 40.
Many companies will lay you off the second you turn 50 unless you’re the cream of the crop.
2. The company will only pay you $30K a year if you’re making them $90K a year pushing buttons.
3. Most small shops have only ONE guy allowed to do GCode programming and they won’t train YOU.
You will push buttons, running back and forth between two machines and loading blanks.
4. If there’s a “hiring” sign out front that never comes down, don’t expect to stay there long.
That kind of company will force 12 hour shifts with no weekends until you give up.
5. If you watched this guy, he’s obviously ex military.
The Navy has ALWAYS had engine lathes on their ships, and unlike the Industry, they NEED to train your ass.
6. If you take a tour at Niles Precision, they’ll show you mating parts machined to fifty millionths of an inch.
They won’t show you a job application unless you’re related to somebody.
Very inspiring!
Become an AE for a builder. Learn g code, macro programming, plc reading, industrial electronics and multiple cad/cam systems. I won't accept an offer less than 140k these days.
This is so me and I have the check stubs to prove it 😎
Not everyone is going to be able to make it to 100k a year with this advice. This is all subject to tons of variables like the company itself, the machines they have, what they charge per hour, etc. etc.
You touched on the machinist but nothing about the companies ability to support a workforce of people who make 100k a year.
I agree with all of what you said,, and also depends on location. I'm pretty good at all 5 of these steps, not a master(nobody is) but I do well, and I don't make anywhere close to 100k, nobody I'm the shop does. Friend of mine has been through 4 shops in the area, he never met a machinist/programmer making close to 100k.
He for got to include OT on this list "then tie it all together"
@@anthonymangia8890 OT isn't really the same as being paid 100k salary.
@@PlinkingLePew I've been threw several shops in several states...I always get the same statement "pay is what it is, we can hire the guy from McDonald's to do it" smfh
@@christiantough5 yup, this video gives a false hope to those who are on their way into the trade. Do the 100k salary jobs exist? Sure, but good luck finding them.
my work before is cnc turret punching machine 2 type of machine. similar to finn power and yawei nishimbo
Thanks bro
That’s right. If you can make the company $2M more, surly you can ask for $200K or more. Key is added production rate and everyone likes you and you help others as well.
What planet do you machine parts on?
Its not what you know, its who you know.
Im blessed my dad owns a machine shop, I'm currently learning machining and programming so i can run the shop and expand it one day
Own the machine shop!
- Leave the machinist field and start working for management
Quick story from a couple days back:
Order came in, Delrin, repeated production, last time i made those parts with part times between 3-4mins only limited by the speed of our machines. Now as it was already programmed and we were sure all was good, we decided to let the night shift run those parts. Guy decided that the program was too fast and reprogrammed entire parts, smaller diameter endmills, shallower depths of cut, slower feeds... Final time for part was in the realm of 12-15mins.... Because he thought the program was too fast and wanted to relax a bit. 3 hours of work were done in 9 hours, manager was not amused when we found out why it took him so long... Setup time should be within 1 hour, as those parts were fairly simple, plonk it in the vice, mill one side, flip it, remove rest of stock material...
Sounds like something I would do when we worked the grave yard shift. 🤣🤣 I would literally slow the speed RPM change some tools and feeds just so I can kick it and watch movies at night 😂😂😭 ended up getting promoted to day shift and was bumping heads with the programmer because he was an idiot at programming and always had to trouble shoot on the spot for every piece he programmed smh we both didn’t last long there lmao
Requires a unsustainable amount of overtime with revolving door contracts from the Military Industrial Complex. No thanks.
Good Job.
What if you are self motivated and learned CNC, CAM, and software engineering but want to try being a machinist as a PT job. Is there any company even willing to entertain such a scenario?
My son is a graduating high school in two months with three years worth of classes in welding. He is going to community college next year to get a certification in welding. Do you think that is a good path?
At first i worked at a shop with bad owners just for the basics - when i learned everything i needed immediatly switched to a better one
I did this only two times to get where I am today and been working in one of the best workplaces here in germany since 2020 and am so happy - i probably stay here forever
The ones who tell you that you wont earn money with machine operating are the ones who dont know how to sell professional knowledge and talent
Wo arbeitest du jetzt und wie hoch ist dein Gehalt ?
Mache eine Ausbildung zum Feinwerkmachniker 👍🏻
@@mrmuab212 Wo genau ich arbeite sag ich hier lieber nicht, aber es ist im nördlichen Bayern. Ich bekomme ca. 3.000€ netto und arbeite 5 tage die woche, früh und spätschicht, bekomme ein 13. gehalt und habe 32 Urlaubstage.
Wichtig ist, dass man sich nicht unter dem Wert verkauft und schon nach der Ausbildung standards festsetzt. Der erste Betrieb kann natürlich schon der richtige sein, ist es in der Regel aber nicht. Gerade als Feinwerkmechaniker kann man ordentlich was rausholen und ein ruhiges Leben haben.