Thanks for this, Jeff. Hope the fun comes back to your brewing soon, but I appreciate you giving me new things to try even when you’re not feeling it yourself.
I really enjoy Bounce Move. It’s been my main ladder climber because “numbers go up” against all sorts of different decks, including lockdown and clog. I’ve also been able to leverage Grandmaster into Dr Strange to pretty good effect.
Played the agent klaw deck while subbing speed for red guardian and used it from 94 to 7050 snap points starting from like 6880 ish in infinite. Most part I agree that speed as a stat stick is much better and that applies to most cases where your trying to claw or Ironman for surprise stats or even mystique copy Ironman into a big speed. But I still found it useful as a means of tagging cards such as other thena their own Ironman and in some cases their Dracula. But for the most part it was a 5 power swing (This was during the league event)
Just got Infinite with the Misery Ramp deck after seeing your deck highlight reel for it. The deck is really fun and people continually forget about the Infinaut She-Hulk combo when play against it seems
So there's a new Hela deck I've been running that replaces Jubilee with Misery - you replace the extra chance to pull Hela out in exchange for getting extra discards when you blow up Blade and Lady Sif. The trade off is one less point of power, but more spaces cleared in case of clog (and you can eliminate and Green Goblins/Hobgoblins that get thrown your way, plus Hoods or Elektros that got Vipered).
how is it healing? l was winning with hela, waited almost 2 week for her to show up in rotaton in the monthly freebie and boom gets hit, like ok what else do l play, l dont have all the cards in the game
@@NuggyPoundy1 hell cow discarding 2 definitely made it way too easy and safe to play, you could summon 4-5 (assuming you have black cat and she got discarded) strong cards at the end with 0 risk if you timed the blade/lady sifs well. Hell cow definitely needed the nerf
I like those (but can't play them, cause i lack 2/3 of the cards anyway for now), because right now i am almost falling asleep when i see another Wong build, or the typical destroy deathpool and wolverine, so more variety is always welcome.
i’ve been toying with a thor package lockjaw misery deck utilizing the new zabu rework - good 4 cost cards + grandmaster, phastos w misery interactions all while lockjaw letting us cycle hammers for combo enablers leads to some nutty combos albeit the brew is not consistent yet
Tried the bounce list from a different video, got kicked around -- if other video had told me it was top performing I wouldn't have touched the deck list at all due to impending popularity. Thanks for putting everything into context.
I went 7-3 with the first deck and got to infinite, funny because 4 of those games, I have seen Noor Dimension and its easy snap when Misery is in the hand. Thanks for the brew.
I am enjoying the agro move deck: Araña-Fist-GSpider-Torch-MWeb-Dagger-Havok-AVenom-Strange-Sage-Cosmo-Vulture. Also the surprise Skaar deck. With all that 4 drops if you have Zabu in hand or by turn 2, is pretty good. Namora feels better now with less clog. But the games when you dont draw Zabu early are tough Lastly with the movement change i sub Jugg out in my MoveRange deck. I go with the Kitty-Angela-Thena-Hope package alongside Kingping-Scream-Polaris-Stegron-Aero-Cball and my pieces of `technology´ are Negasonic and Gladiator (right now he kills all but Infinaut and Hela shit)
I have been trying to play misery in thanos with wiccan, making space on the board while drawing more cards via misery feels pretty good and planning which lanes to misery is fun. i can often get thanos up to 20 power and play him out (by retriggering mind/timestone ), but it still doesnt feel strong enough to win consistently. im also playing hitmonkey, black swan and falcon (for hitmonkey but also to play out stones again for wiccan). I often don't have enough space for big turn 6 hitmonkeys, and i lose to linear wong decks because i dont have interaction. i'm thinking of going a viper clog orientation in place of the monkey stuff. tips/ideas welcome
I've been enjoying the Wiccan deck from a few weeks ago a lot. It feels like a good midrange deck with the tools to compete against some of the more unfair decks. Sersi can win games and Mobius still makes some decks pretty awful. Top it off with a Magneto or Alioth at the high end and you've got some play against most decks.
I've been trying to use Misery in Vlog and my God, I don't remember having such a miserable (pun intended) time against such a variety of decks. It's either Hela, Arishem, or Scream and I have never wanted to play less. Here's hoping next week is more interesting.
I’m f2p but love bounce so without Agent Venom this particular season has felt lackluster. Honestly I just haven’t touched bounce as I did not want to play what I thought is a strictly inferior version of it without AV. I’m surprised to see the non AV version being reasonable perhaps I’ll take that up, thanks for the video!
I played a deck very similar to "Misery Ramp" before Misery came out, but I used Sersi to clear the Electro instead. Sunspot, Hope Summers, and Alioth were different cards too, I think it was White Widow, Storm, and Legion.
Unfortunately I think Namora is in a bad spot right now, but she's also been good in the past. In general I think pulling any time you are missing two cards is a fine choice.
I'm running agent hawk, the only card I am missing is silver sable, so I've been running Iceman instead. If anyone feels there's a better one drop sub, let me know.
The eternal Jeff conundrum: when Bounce is bad it's fun to brew with, when Bounce is good it's not. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. 😂
Thanks for this, Jeff. Hope the fun comes back to your brewing soon, but I appreciate you giving me new things to try even when you’re not feeling it yourself.
As always, thanks for looking out for us F2P people. I spent keys to get Namora and also got Misery. I think it'll work out, long term. 🤞
I really enjoy Bounce Move. It’s been my main ladder climber because “numbers go up” against all sorts of different decks, including lockdown and clog. I’ve also been able to leverage Grandmaster into Dr Strange to pretty good effect.
Played the agent klaw deck while subbing speed for red guardian and used it from 94 to 7050 snap points starting from like 6880 ish in infinite.
Most part I agree that speed as a stat stick is much better and that applies to most cases where your trying to claw or Ironman for surprise stats or even mystique copy Ironman into a big speed. But I still found it useful as a means of tagging cards such as other thena their own Ironman and in some cases their Dracula. But for the most part it was a 5 power swing
(This was during the league event)
Nice was just waiting for this video!
Just got Infinite with the Misery Ramp deck after seeing your deck highlight reel for it. The deck is really fun and people continually forget about the Infinaut She-Hulk combo when play against it seems
As always, that's the video I'm looking for during the weekend for new fun decks to try. Thanks.
Thank you. A lot of interesting choices to try.
I love ramp, this misery ramp looks fun.
So there's a new Hela deck I've been running that replaces Jubilee with Misery - you replace the extra chance to pull Hela out in exchange for getting extra discards when you blow up Blade and Lady Sif. The trade off is one less point of power, but more spaces cleared in case of clog (and you can eliminate and Green Goblins/Hobgoblins that get thrown your way, plus Hoods or Elektros that got Vipered).
Huzzah we've survived Hela meta yet again! Marvel snap is healing
how is it healing? l was winning with hela, waited almost 2 week for her to show up in rotaton in the monthly freebie and boom gets hit, like ok what else do l play, l dont have all the cards in the game
@@NuggyPoundy1 skill issue
@@NuggyPoundy1good thing Jeff calls out plenty of substitutions for each deck in the video.
@@NuggyPoundy1 hell cow discarding 2 definitely made it way too easy and safe to play, you could summon 4-5 (assuming you have black cat and she got discarded) strong cards at the end with 0 risk if you timed the blade/lady sifs well. Hell cow definitely needed the nerf
@@estebanroque3396 dont say skill issue cause the RNG in this game is insane
so happy he's actually pronouncing Aña/Araña!
I like those (but can't play them, cause i lack 2/3 of the cards anyway for now), because right now i am almost falling asleep when i see another Wong build, or the typical destroy deathpool and wolverine, so more variety is always welcome.
i’ve been toying with a thor package lockjaw misery deck utilizing the new zabu rework - good 4 cost cards + grandmaster, phastos w misery interactions all while lockjaw letting us cycle hammers for combo enablers leads to some nutty combos albeit the brew is not consistent yet
Tried the bounce list from a different video, got kicked around -- if other video had told me it was top performing I wouldn't have touched the deck list at all due to impending popularity. Thanks for putting everything into context.
As is always the case, I think context is key. Simple 1 through X best deck lists miss a lot of it.
I was using a wacky surfer list with misery/pheonix force and zabu. so on turn 6 they are both 3 cost and you can get 3 surfer triggers.
I went 7-3 with the first deck and got to infinite, funny because 4 of those games, I have seen Noor Dimension and its easy snap when Misery is in the hand. Thanks for the brew.
I don’t know if I’m just a fellow dad gamer yelling at clouds, but I find I violently agree with Jeff’s meta opinions.
I am enjoying the agro move deck: Araña-Fist-GSpider-Torch-MWeb-Dagger-Havok-AVenom-Strange-Sage-Cosmo-Vulture. Also the surprise Skaar deck. With all that 4 drops if you have Zabu in hand or by turn 2, is pretty good. Namora feels better now with less clog. But the games when you dont draw Zabu early are tough
Lastly with the movement change i sub Jugg out in my MoveRange deck. I go with the Kitty-Angela-Thena-Hope package alongside Kingping-Scream-Polaris-Stegron-Aero-Cball and my pieces of `technology´ are Negasonic and Gladiator (right now he kills all but Infinaut and Hela shit)
Hey jeff, are you planning to use a zabu + namora deck after the zabu buff
in the Agent Speed deck, I don't have Speed so I replaced him with Hope Summers with very good results.
Great vid 🎉
Im kinda happy with this metagame so far, played tons of games yesterday and got only 1 Hela and very few clogs
I have been trying to play misery in thanos with wiccan, making space on the board while drawing more cards via misery feels pretty good and planning which lanes to misery is fun. i can often get thanos up to 20 power and play him out (by retriggering mind/timestone ), but it still doesnt feel strong enough to win consistently. im also playing hitmonkey, black swan and falcon (for hitmonkey but also to play out stones again for wiccan). I often don't have enough space for big turn 6 hitmonkeys, and i lose to linear wong decks because i dont have interaction. i'm thinking of going a viper clog orientation in place of the monkey stuff. tips/ideas welcome
I've been enjoying the Wiccan deck from a few weeks ago a lot. It feels like a good midrange deck with the tools to compete against some of the more unfair decks. Sersi can win games and Mobius still makes some decks pretty awful. Top it off with a Magneto or Alioth at the high end and you've got some play against most decks.
good stuff as always
I've been trying to use Misery in Vlog and my God, I don't remember having such a miserable (pun intended) time against such a variety of decks. It's either Hela, Arishem, or Scream and I have never wanted to play less. Here's hoping next week is more interesting.
I have all the cards for the war machine lockout thing, but I don’t play it because it is not fun.
Whats the best grandmaster replacement for high p 2 i didnt understand
I’m f2p but love bounce so without Agent Venom this particular season has felt lackluster. Honestly I just haven’t touched bounce as I did not want to play what I thought is a strictly inferior version of it without AV. I’m surprised to see the non AV version being reasonable perhaps I’ll take that up, thanks for the video!
I played a deck very similar to "Misery Ramp" before Misery came out, but I used Sersi to clear the Electro instead. Sunspot, Hope Summers, and Alioth were different cards too, I think it was White Widow, Storm, and Legion.
Should i pick up Namora? My intial plan last month was to grab her to pair with Capt Marvel but now idk
Unfortunately I think Namora is in a bad spot right now, but she's also been good in the past. In general I think pulling any time you are missing two cards is a fine choice.
Comment for the algorithm! Glad that Hela has been kicked into the dirt
l get it that hela was giving people wins but damn bro, what deck do l play now?
@@NuggyPoundy1 This video has tons of options, as does last week’s!
I'm running agent hawk, the only card I am missing is silver sable, so I've been running Iceman instead. If anyone feels there's a better one drop sub, let me know.
Wasp
Hood
Nico
Mysterio
Red Guardian
Agent Venom
Viper
Debris
Patriot
Mystique
Bishop
Iron man
enjoy, let me know how it goes 🫱🏾🫲🏼