I think your Surfer hunch is astute. 12:52 Just took a near identical Surfer list to my first Infinity Conquest win! Didn’t pull for Makkari so I was running Copycat instead: she gives so much insight into what deck I’m facing that I’d say it’s near essential. For my conquest run I had opted for Red Guardian rather than Cass as I’m rarely seeing Arishem at my MMR. That allowed me to negate a Thena in one match and then a Darkhawk in another. *chef’s kiss* great work on this list!
Really enjoyed the video, thanks! Yeah Arishem feels really good, I'm playing in a kinda competitive alliance and I'm in the top of points gained thanks to arishem. I just slot in a bunch of random cards to get quests done in no time, and I can even play risk free with the deadpools diner. I think zoo will be the winner with the new season pass card + marvel boy in a few days, Docty snap had a really cool list with both of them in zoo.
16:22 you can also do another bounce if you put everything on a side lane bounce the stuff and then go middle with that stuff again and then grand master beast to the middle to bounce everything a second time which is nuts.
In the HazJax section, are you talking about falcon when you’re saying Cassandra nova towards the end? she is in the deck, but falcon is not and you mentioned him earlier.
It's weird because he was talking about its ability to beat Arishem, which suggests he actually did mean Cassandra Nova. It seems like he was maybe suffering from a case of temporary selective blindness and didn't realize she actually was in the deck.
@@payprplayn I've played around with it, and Shadow King definitely doesn't belong in a deck with Rocket, Hazmat...Cassandra Nova. I think you might be right.
The TLSG Deck was really fun to play. I got a bunch of wins with it. I took out rocket and put in spider ham. One have I think I grandmaster and beast in the same game. They just retreated lol
If surfer starts becoming really common, I can see Loki being added to those decks. Whoever plays Loki in a surfer mirror match will have a huge advange imo. We'll see
Arishem still needs some work. On ladder he seems fine, but in conquest he is still far and away the best card. They need to just throw a couple more cards in him to reduce consistency.
When it comes to meta discussion. I always wonder about Namora, since it seems like that deck typically does really well statistically just no one has the card.
So much Cassandra it's sad because it looks like I'm not getting that card. I am trying like hell to play Diner but every time I get up to Kabob I end up playing someone who looks like I've got them beat going into the last turn only for them to somehow play all the perfect cards in the perfect places to win and take all my bubs. I haven't even gotten the cardback yet so Cassandra just isn't happening
Great video. I'm surprised you didn't mention your ol' faithful destroy. It has a really decent matchup in Arishem, Athena, and Zoo. Shadow King / Shang can be a concern, but they have to decide if you're playing Zola or Knull on 6.
What do you think about Sera Control? It looks like it has to be good in current meta. It loses to Hela, Clog and uninteractable stuff like Stature/Miles. And it seems like all of these decks are not meta, and against everything else Sera Control is pretty good.
@@riperoni9302 Most of the cards would be underpowered or interactable in different ways and Sera Control has a lot of tools to deal with different threats (SK, Shang Chi, Enchantress, Red Guardian etc). Also Loki is a bit of a problem, cuz they get your stuff, and it's usually uninteractable. Kinda suprised you get it complete opposite.
I'm currently running Mirage, Shadow King, White Widow, Jeff!, Maximus, Red Guardian, Copycat, Nocturne, Gladiator, Shang Chi, Enchantress, Sera. I've tried to put link to a deck, but my comment was deleted. Also I've used this deck in previous meta (that's why it has Jeff! and Nocturne). I might replace those with Scarlet Witch and Killmonger, cuz there are no more Leech and Doctor Octopus.
I love grand master in bounce hitting a beast with grandmaster is alot easier because beast is always the only on reveal card at a location so there is a solid opportunity for grandmaster to just be a second beast witch is alot more frequent then copying beast with nico while also no letting you do some pretty cool stuff if you play him on a nico that doubles then you get an 8 power nico witch he is almost the only way to get that in bounce he can hit hood a 2/2 that adds a demon yes please what grandmaster is best case is a second beast but worst case he is repeating good on reveals the whole point of a bounce deck while being a good target for beast himself grandmaster does alot in bounce and it is by far the best home for him
Question: Wasn't your video about the patch all about you passionately bashing it for destroying arishem, now your like loki is better now then before.
Haven’t watched the video yet but I’m sure Thena package will likely be in 6 of the 8 based on my own experience. I’ll come back to this to see if I was right after I watch
i haven't played in 3 months. The new decks are insane. The power level of the newish cards is nutty. Like I don't even wanna keep playing, the new decks are oppressive. Every deck i've tried gets absolutely bodied
I think your Surfer hunch is astute. 12:52 Just took a near identical Surfer list to my first Infinity Conquest win! Didn’t pull for Makkari so I was running Copycat instead: she gives so much insight into what deck I’m facing that I’d say it’s near essential. For my conquest run I had opted for Red Guardian rather than Cass as I’m rarely seeing Arishem at my MMR. That allowed me to negate a Thena in one match and then a Darkhawk in another. *chef’s kiss* great work on this list!
Really liked your earlier surfer tip to hold nova cause you can generally fit him on curve later and it helps pump hope; has helped a lot!
Bring high evo back into the meta
The poor man's deck. It's still viable. There are better options though.
Hot take: I think you could revert every nerf to High Evo and it would be fine.
pls
Playing high ego right now in infinite and climbing
I’ve been playing triple hulk high Evo off and on since red hulk launch. It’s a solid deck. Sometimes armor and cosmo win the games on their own.
Heck YES! Timely AF KMB!! Tyty!
Thanks for the Boost KM. You are phenomenal. Have a great weekend!
Really enjoyed the video, thanks! Yeah Arishem feels really good, I'm playing in a kinda competitive alliance and I'm in the top of points gained thanks to arishem. I just slot in a bunch of random cards to get quests done in no time, and I can even play risk free with the deadpools diner. I think zoo will be the winner with the new season pass card + marvel boy in a few days, Docty snap had a really cool list with both of them in zoo.
18:58 me screaming internally that she’s right there
Samd
16:22 you can also do another bounce if you put everything on a side lane bounce the stuff and then go middle with that stuff again and then grand master beast to the middle to bounce everything a second time which is nuts.
Amazing to see Copycat in nearly every deck except Surfer, the place you naturally expect to see 3-cost cards.
You could have seen that coming
Solid work KMBest - keep up the quality videos
The colour of your shirt looks great on you 👍
What is a good replacement for copycat in the cassandra move deck?
In the HazJax section, are you talking about falcon when you’re saying Cassandra nova towards the end? she is in the deck, but falcon is not and you mentioned him earlier.
Or maybe shadow king, you are talking about tech cards like Shang Chi and maybe shadow king
It's weird because he was talking about its ability to beat Arishem, which suggests he actually did mean Cassandra Nova. It seems like he was maybe suffering from a case of temporary selective blindness and didn't realize she actually was in the deck.
@@payprplayn I've played around with it, and Shadow King definitely doesn't belong in a deck with Rocket, Hazmat...Cassandra Nova. I think you might be right.
Deck builder built me that exact build with cassandra nova and gwenpool. Now i see it's a top deck 😂 who knew!
Any Topdecks without : Mockinbird, Copycat, Thena, Arishem or Cassandra ,.. left ?
The TLSG Deck was really fun to play. I got a bunch of wins with it. I took out rocket and put in spider ham. One have I think I grandmaster and beast in the same game. They just retreated lol
If surfer starts becoming really common, I can see Loki being added to those decks. Whoever plays Loki in a surfer mirror match will have a huge advange imo. We'll see
Hi KM !
Instead of the GM i use US Agent in this List.
You can use it against big threats and it is usefull for ajax.
Greetings from Germany !
Arishem still needs some work. On ladder he seems fine, but in conquest he is still far and away the best card. They need to just throw a couple more cards in him to reduce consistency.
What’s the patriot + Sandman list?
Between Copycat and Nocturne, which one is an overall better card to buy?
Copycat
Nocturne, Moveable 3/5 > static 3/5 (sometimes)
When it comes to meta discussion. I always wonder about Namora, since it seems like that deck typically does really well statistically just no one has the card.
I like the buff version of surfer better I also threw in Shadow King for some unexpected tech
Midrange is gonna flourish with the change to Loki right?
So much Cassandra it's sad because it looks like I'm not getting that card. I am trying like hell to play Diner but every time I get up to Kabob I end up playing someone who looks like I've got them beat going into the last turn only for them to somehow play all the perfect cards in the perfect places to win and take all my bubs. I haven't even gotten the cardback yet so Cassandra just isn't happening
Great video. I'm surprised you didn't mention your ol' faithful destroy. It has a really decent matchup in Arishem, Athena, and Zoo. Shadow King / Shang can be a concern, but they have to decide if you're playing Zola or Knull on 6.
He has been down on destroy for a while if you’ve seen his meta updates
Thanks KM 🎉
Are 6 costs dead??
What do you mean…Not having Cassandra Nova?? She was in the deck. I have chi in place of doc works great.
Is your blue tongue a nod to the blue woman meta
its a nod to eating your vitamins
i found loki good in thanos with lockjow and all the card drow stons + mokingbird maybe worth traying
What do you think about Sera Control? It looks like it has to be good in current meta. It loses to Hela, Clog and uninteractable stuff like Stature/Miles. And it seems like all of these decks are not meta, and against everything else Sera Control is pretty good.
Wouldn’t it lose to arishem? Most of the cards would be uninteractable unless they running loki
Sandman might be the biggest problem imo, and I'm personally meeting quite a few
@@iDrKx Yeah, sandman is kinda a problem. It's not that big, if you can predict it, but you need to have a good knowledge of meta.
@@riperoni9302 Most of the cards would be underpowered or interactable in different ways and Sera Control has a lot of tools to deal with different threats (SK, Shang Chi, Enchantress, Red Guardian etc). Also Loki is a bit of a problem, cuz they get your stuff, and it's usually uninteractable. Kinda suprised you get it complete opposite.
I'm currently running Mirage, Shadow King, White Widow, Jeff!, Maximus, Red Guardian, Copycat, Nocturne, Gladiator, Shang Chi, Enchantress, Sera.
I've tried to put link to a deck, but my comment was deleted.
Also I've used this deck in previous meta (that's why it has Jeff! and Nocturne). I might replace those with Scarlet Witch and Killmonger, cuz there are no more Leech and Doctor Octopus.
Subbed out the jug for rogue in the case move deck - jug is perhaps too high skill cap or I am seeing too much discard - zoo - patriot
Hazjak does run Casandra Nova ur vid says otherwise.
I'm worried that I won't be able to get cassandra nova before the event ends. She is by no means guaranteed.
It's a very good Abs Man variant I'll say
KM how much longer do you think Thena will reigned unchecked?
i dunno. it seems pretty free to 2/0 her tbh
Long live Loki
House of X is a really good comic book!
I love grand master in bounce hitting a beast with grandmaster is alot easier because beast is always the only on reveal card at a location so there is a solid opportunity for grandmaster to just be a second beast witch is alot more frequent then copying beast with nico while also no letting you do some pretty cool stuff if you play him on a nico that doubles then you get an 8 power nico witch he is almost the only way to get that in bounce he can hit hood a 2/2 that adds a demon yes please what grandmaster is best case is a second beast but worst case he is repeating good on reveals the whole point of a bounce deck while being a good target for beast himself grandmaster does alot in bounce and it is by far the best home for him
Best Makari replacements?
We're in a post-arishem world. And I'm lost.
Quicksilver is the only card must have in every deck
Question: Wasn't your video about the patch all about you passionately bashing it for destroying arishem, now your like loki is better now then before.
No he didn’t bash it at all he said it was genius that Arishem was fun and got all the toxic nerfed in a single patch
what is high elo? top 1000?
Yes, around that
@@DoowapX i got to top 700. honestly it really does not feel that different than lower elos except that ppl know to retreat more often
Why is your tongue blue?
Also very nice video as always bruh!
Fits the color of his shirt 😜
when its blue the answer is my gummy vitamins, when its red its cough drops
Haven’t watched the video yet but I’m sure Thena package will likely be in 6 of the 8 based on my own experience. I’ll come back to this to see if I was right after I watch
You were incorrect my fellow snapper
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Bro, don't juice my cubes.
They nerf Loki because of Arishem, and the only place he still sees real play is Arishem. Clown ass devs.
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i haven't played in 3 months. The new decks are insane. The power level of the newish cards is nutty. Like I don't even wanna keep playing, the new decks are oppressive. Every deck i've tried gets absolutely bodied
I am so sick of kitty/thena/angela in every deck I face it seems
Interesting I would have thought that the Loki decks would be more on mysterio mocking bird stuff then random good card.dek
Copycat in almost literally every deck, new best in slot 3?
TOP 100? still thx thx
Blob isn't even all that great in the one deck he was good in now. Frickin sad.
Just writing this so no one can write "first"
Based
Really liked your earlier surfer tip to hold nova cause you can generally fit him on curve later and it helps pump hope; has helped a lot!