Boys axe Vintage vs. New

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  • Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
  • I’m this video I compare a vintage boys axe to a new boys axe. I discuss similarities, differences, and use both of them. #axe #pennsylvania #bucking #trees #nature #counciltool #felling #wood #outdoors #vintage #vs #new

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  • @matte8433
    @matte8433 2 года назад +2

    "We all got the bug" Truer words have never been spoken.

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад +1

      Absolutely !! I always tell myself I think I’m content with the axes I have and then I see one at a yard sale for a good deal and I’m like how can I just walk away from this lol !! Thank you for watching !!

    • @MountainMenAxes
      @MountainMenAxes Год назад

      ​@940joey2 One year later I'm still buying and fixing up axes.. ha ha you guys got the bud I think I have the virus..but awesome advice man.

  • @davidleasure9138
    @davidleasure9138 Год назад +2

    You provided good information for the ax purchaser. Keep going with the ax series. My uncle always said he could tell a chopper by the chips

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much, I really appreciate it !! I’ve never done a full review on just the council tool boys axe, but I plan to soon, keep an eye out for that !! Also thank you so much for subscribing, I hope you enjoy my other videos !! Hey man your uncle isn’t wrong about that for sure !!

  • @MrFlyrod7
    @MrFlyrod7 Год назад +2

    Council tool Boys Axe is also made for Echo and sold by Home Depot for about $60

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  Год назад

      Really !!! That’s awesome, I’m going to have to head to my local Home Depot and check that out !! Thanks for the info 🤙 thank you so much for watching !!

    • @MrFlyrod7
      @MrFlyrod7 Год назад +1

      @@940joey2 May have to Oder online and pick up at the store. Not sure if all HD carry in the store. If you are military or a vet you get a 10% discount. Can’t beat that price

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  Год назад

      @@MrFlyrod7 good to know thank you !! Well I actually have to go there anyway to pick up some paint. So I may as well pop my head into the axe section and who knows maybe I’ll come home with another one 😂 I’ll make it my truck axe !!! How are the hangs from echo. Do you know of echo is doing the hang or is council tool and then echo just puts its branding on the handle ?

    • @MrFlyrod7
      @MrFlyrod7 Год назад +1

      @@940joey2 not sure. Let me know if they have them in the store 😊

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  Год назад

      @@MrFlyrod7 will do thanks again !!

  • @WhiskeyRiverTradingCo
    @WhiskeyRiverTradingCo 2 года назад +3

    Great video comparison 👍👍

  • @JFBradfields-Axed-n-Answered
    @JFBradfields-Axed-n-Answered Год назад +2

    Giving either of those axes a convex profile at the edge will help to deter stickiness. CT recommends it for the boys ax, though it won't arrive that way. It will just have a rough ground blade. Sharp enough to cut yourself, but chopping as you are with it, check your edge -- you might see some curling. Convex, that won't be as much an issue. You make an *excellent* point that it all comes down to your own preferences. How much work do you want to (like to, enjoy) put into it. So might want to talk a bit more about the handle and the attention to materials in both handle and head. You can make just about any off the shelf hardware store boys ax into a good ax. But Council Tool is giving you a head start with hand-select hickory handles, with proper grain alignment. That's hard to find in hardware store varieties like True Temper, even "back in the day." You have to sort through 7 or 8 individual axes in other makes to find a decent handle. Your Council Tool will come hung well, mated so well to the eye that there is no shelf, just the tiniest amount of wood curl. Leave it or trim it off if you prefer. Other makes, you're just as likely to remove the handle, shape it and rehang it for a better fit. Many will have a harsh shelf on them that won't let them sit further. As they dry out, you're going to get some wiggle. Do these things matter? They are easily done and for ax afficianados, a pleasure to do. But with the Council Tool, you get a head with steel you know (1060 or 1080), if that matters to you, ground just enough to give your own profiling and sharpening a good starting point, and a handle you won't have to monkey with. Plus, CT gives them a coat of boiled lindseed oil -- no varnish or paint. Give it a few more over the first few days. These are bonuses that some people (like me) care enough about to pay the tiny different in price to get ($40 say, compared to just over $60 in 2023 for CT). *If* you find a vintage boys ax, run with it. With a little work -- if you want to -- you can get it closer to what you get out of the box from CT. And even with CT, there's plenty leftr for you to do: make a sheath or mask, maybe seal the handle with a few more coats of BLO... Just a few more things to think about that were missed in this comparison.

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  Год назад

      Thank you so much for the awesome feed back, great comment !! Reading your comment really makes me wish and maybe I still will do a review of just the council tool boys axe itself. This was mainly about the head geometry because I get asked the question vintage vs new so often I suppose I wasn’t really focused on certain details of the ct boys at. The council tool boys axe is probably my most used axe I own out of the bunch, I absolutely love this axe and council tool does a fine job. CT is doing an amazing job with all of those axes, from the quality and geometry of the head to the handles and fit and finish. I really can’t think of a better axe company on the market today doing what council tool is doing. Yes, I do agree that council tool has some of the best ready to use production handle out of any new axe I’ve ever used. Thank you again for the awesome comment you’ve inspired me to do a updates council tool review now being almost a year later and a ton more use behind this axe!!

  • @samzeng159
    @samzeng159 2 года назад +4

    Yup I found stickyness to be not a huge issue and all axes stick to a degree. The high center is nice for chip removal and overall more efficient for bucking and felling. The really thin Ochsenkopfs are really good at limbing that thin geometry cuts the limbs like butter.

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад +1

      I agree man, the amount of stickiness I see out of my axes isn’t really unbearable. The only time where it sucks is then you split with a thin axe and you bury it an it’s a bear to get back out … but there’s that saying use the right tool for the job. You know I’ve always hear of the ox heads being great limbing axes, I have yet to try one !!

  • @Bkellyusa
    @Bkellyusa 2 года назад +2

    I've have also heard that the Velvicut Bad Boys Axe has the ridges. I probably need to contact Council Tool to find out for sure.
    Keep up the good work.
    Hope your hand is healing.

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад +1

      Sorry I’m just seeing this comment now Brian, but since then yes I have confirmed the velvicut does have eye ridges. I think that’s awesome that they kept an old design around !!

  • @jamesnelson1443
    @jamesnelson1443 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thx sir!! Great info, I always wondered what “high center line” is!
    Also knowing that eye ribs are on the Velvicut!

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  5 месяцев назад

      @@jamesnelson1443 Thank you, I’m happy you enjoyed the video and we’re able to learn something. I wish I took a little more time to explain things better I’m this video, I’ve been thinking of remaking this for a while now. Thank you so much for watching !!

  • @ImHereForYourArtStream
    @ImHereForYourArtStream 2 года назад +1

    Hey Joey, I have the velvicut bad axe boys axe! I do not notice the 6 ridges from looking at the eye with the handle in but that doesn't mean they are not there. As far as chopping comparison from the velvicut to the sport utility boys axe, the velvicut definitely chops better night n day difference. Well to me it is. But with alittle edge profiling to the sport utility I think it could be close. I would like to get my hands on a vintage axe, but I can never find a decent example to purchase. It would be nice to have others that are into axes looking for a vintage one for me. Thank you again for all the awesome content you make, and the time you put into making your videos.

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад

      Hey !!! Thank you so much for watching and thank you for the info !! I’ve heard the velvicut boys axe is awesome, I haven’t had the opportunity to use one, I hope to one day !! If you’re interested in a good condition vintage American axe I think I can come up with one for you. I’m not sure if you’re on Facebook but you can reach me through Facebook messenger or even email if that works for you and I can show some examples you may be interested in. Also I’m in the middle of editing a video I shot this afternoon I’m about to post it I’m just proof watching it, and tomorrow I’ll be posting another video keep an eye out for that one I’m going to be announcing an axe give away !! You’re very welcome I’m very happy you enjoy the content I’m putting out, I have a great time making these videos and it gives me a great excuse to get out and chop 👍

  • @yungsmile7546
    @yungsmile7546 2 года назад +5

    IMHO, when you do buy a Velvicut you will know what axe reigns supreme in the world. I held off buying the Boy's Bad Axe and Felling axes, but when I at last did I only regretted waiting so long. Had I started out buying them first I'd need no others. Craig Roost designs them with sure intent to be used now and for generations. CT's production impeccable.

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад

      I really think when they come back in stock I’m going to pull the trigger on it !! Thanks for all the information on it !!! I should have grabbed on when I had the chance, I was torn between the FSS model and the velvicut bad axe boys axe. But I was indecisive and slept on it for a couple days and they were both sold out super quick so I ended up with neither. I’ll have one soon though just need to be patient 🤙

  • @brettbrown9814
    @brettbrown9814 2 года назад +3

    Good video! I have found that while most vintage axes make good splitters, many have bits that are too worn to be good choppers. Some axe knowledge is necessary to spot a good one and even then it is often difficult to determine it's actual condition from online photos. I love my vintage as well as new axes but thought this was worth adding.

    • @kurts64
      @kurts64 2 года назад +1

      Agreed!

    • @brettbrown9814
      @brettbrown9814 2 года назад +2

      @@kurts64Vintage is pretty pricey here now. A Kelly Dandenong (4.5# head only) went for $186 on Trade Me on Sunday with over 30 bids.

    • @kurts64
      @kurts64 2 года назад +1

      @@brettbrown9814 wow that's crazy. Kelly in good condition goes for big prices here too. Hytest is bit cheaper just due to numbers available, but any decent one is 100 bucks plus. I saw a 3.5lber (admittedly relatively rare model hytest, as you know!😉) go for upwards of 300... didn't see the final price, had to look away😫

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад

      Thanks Brett yeah man I totally agree !! I love my vintage axes, with that said my first few head I bought I didn’t know anything about them and I definitely bought some mistakes luckily they were cheap !! I liked it because they forced me to learn 👍 it’s tougher to buy on line because your right the pics don’t really get all the details. If it’s not clearly close to perfect it’s hard to see potential flaws, especially the ones hiding in the eye. Nothing better than finding them at yard sales, being able to pick them up and look for yourself !! Absolutely I love my new axes too, I think council tool has a great thing going 👍

    • @brettbrown9814
      @brettbrown9814 2 года назад +1

      @@940joey2 Agreed! There really are no mistakes. Lots of learning opportunities and the ability to save a piece of history with its own story to tell.

  • @rons3736
    @rons3736 2 года назад +1

    Great comparison! I was always a believer that the grind/angle effect the stickiness more than a high centerline when felling or bucking. Keep up the great work

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад

      Thank you !! And you’re absolutely right about the grind and angle I didn’t realize till after I proof watched my video I forgot to mention that, I thought I did. But yeah the grind and angle have a lot to do with the axe getting stuck obviously the more aggressive of a grind the farther back you are on the cheeks, resulting in the axe getting stuck more, but also you’ll cut deeper. and also if it’s a flat or convex grind will have a lot to do with it getting stuck as well.

  • @BBQDad463
    @BBQDad463 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for this nice comparison.

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад

      You’re welcome !! Thank you so much for watching 👍

  • @axeandturtle
    @axeandturtle 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for great video

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад +1

      You’re welcome, thank you for watching 👍

  • @kurts64
    @kurts64 2 года назад +1

    Good stuff Joey! You bought up some good points, and well presented I reckon. Most of my axes are vintage, though in the last year I've bought a couple of new ones. I've not noticed enough difference in steel quality to say that one is better than the other, what I find good about vintage is just that the variety and in some cases the refinement of the patterns can be better. Sometimes buying vintage is a pain though, both in cost and labour.

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад +1

      Thank you Kurt !! Yeah man I totally agree, I was going to talk on the steel quality but I’m not to educated on types of steel and their benefits. I just know that they both seem to hold up great and sharpen nicely lol !! 😂 yeah I can agree with that too the vintage heads have a lot more variety and if you buy anything with phantom bevels that’s is vintage they seem to be much more pronounced and functional. Yeah vintage can be tough but it’s such a great feeling when you take that old rusty barn find into something beautiful and functional again !!

  • @MatthewAmsbaugh
    @MatthewAmsbaugh 2 года назад +1

    Cool video! Good comparison. Buying vintage can be tough. You have to pay close attention before you buy one. Many old heads were retired long before they were listed for sale. Sharpened so much there is very little tempered steel left, and left with a ridiculously stout profile that’s only good for splitting. If you can find a nice vintage head with a full bit and minimal poll damage, you’re going to pay a pretty penny for it.
    I have such mixed feelings about eye ridges 😂 I hate them… I hate hanging them, and I hate trying to remove wood from the eye when replacing the handle. But they really do help prevent the head from slipping. Blessing and a curse.

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад

      Thanks Matt !! Yeah I agree finding vintage can be tough for someone new, I know I struggled with it on my first few vintage finds. But what I loved about it is it forces you to learn how to work with the tool. Honestly my heart is with vintage axes. As far as eye ridges go it’s such a love hate relationship !! I absolutely love them and the idea behind them but hanging them could be an absolute bear !!

  • @wesbodine6102
    @wesbodine6102 2 года назад +2

    To me it looks like the vintage axe blows the chips out better??

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад

      Thank you so much !! Yeah absolutely !! The high center line of the vintage axe definitely helps with that. The new axe doesn’t do a horrible job of removing chips, but yes the vintage axes will always have my vote !!

  • @Running-with-skizers
    @Running-with-skizers Год назад +1

    This was a great video man!!!

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  Год назад

      Thanks man I really appreciate it !!! You know it’s funny because I wasn’t too crazy about this video and have always wanted to remake it more thought out. So the reason my hairs all done and I’m wearing nice jeans and all that is because I made this video right after coming home from my best friends funeral and I was all tore up and just had to go out and make a video to chop and clear my head. That being said I was pretty scatter brained and I’d like to remake it one day, but I’m really glad you liked it man. And I’m the other side of the coin I’m happy I made this video because the hoodie I’m wearing under my jacket is my friends hoodie (the one that past away) and shortly after this the hoodie got ripped at work so it’s kinda cool that I can look back at this and remember my friend and see the hoodie. Sorry about this wired long explanation but yeah that’s something I never talked about and no one knows about this video.

    • @Running-with-skizers
      @Running-with-skizers Год назад

      I'm sorry to hear that about your friend man I don't think it should be redone I mean, hell, you were dealing with a loss and still managed to do exactly what he'd want you to do... what makes you happy.

  • @davidarwood6264
    @davidarwood6264 3 месяца назад

    I've just acquired a vintage Diamond Edge boys axe. I've only took the spit handle off so far. It's in good shape. I have nothing to compare it to except for a cheap Truper boys axe , but the Diamond Edge is quite a bit beefier than the 2 1/4 lb Truper. I picked the Truper up at a hardware warehouse that I work at very cheap. I haven't used it yet , but it's a hundred times better than the new True Temper boy's axe . That's for sure. 😅 The same day I got the Truper someone gave me the Diamond Edge. Actually before I bought it. I only paid $16 and some tax though. 😅

  • @peterfletcher8411
    @peterfletcher8411 2 года назад +1

    Vintage seemed to have it for my money. Good vid.🙂

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад +1

      Absolutely !!! My vintage boys axe is probably my favorite axe to use and sees the most work 👍

  • @dennisobrien3618
    @dennisobrien3618 2 года назад +1

    I'm enjoying your content very much. Personally, I prefer the closer shots of bucking (I find myself watching to try to predict where each stroke will impact, and whether I would follow the same cutting pattern). It's amazing how much influence Steven Edholm has had on the axe user community. It used to be that all the axe-related content I could find was videos about splitting (with some dubious techniques being shown) and "restoration" videos where people want to take an old, worn out item and buff and modify it into some shiny wall hanger that's less functional than what they started with. Now it's not hard to find videos of people who are very proficient (especially Kurt S and Owen Jarvis) as well as watching the rapid improvement of relative newcomers to the community.
    As far as the Council Tool boy's axes, I originally splurged on the Velvicut version, and later bought the Forestry Service Specification version from Whiskey River Trading Co.. I haven't been able to put them to extensive use yet, but I do have a couple observations. Although the Velvicut is definitely a premium price, the fit & finish is top-notch, and the handles are almost always near-perfect in grain orientation and (lack of) runout, as well as requiring very little, if any, thinning or shaping. I have four different Velvicut axes, and the only one I feel the need to modify is the 4lb. Premium American Felling Axe. It has a handle that's thick enough to cause hand fatigue because my hands don't close far enough to create that "effortless" grip that a well fitted handle offers (mind you, I have XL hands and can palm a full size basketball). The other difference I noticed between boy's axes is that the Velvicut came with a thinner, sharper, more refined edge, ready for use out of the box. I didn't use an angle gauge to measure them, though. I can't tell how the steels will compare long-term, as far as edge retention and corrosion resistance, but they both perform well so far.. It might be interesting to throw the base sport-utility finish version (in whatever their base steel is [1050/1055/1060?]) vs 1080 vs. 5160. Enough rambling for now. Keep up the good work!

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад +1

      Thank you so much !! I’m glad you enjoyed the video!! Yeah man Steve Edholm is extremely knowledgeable and kind of where it all started for me, which led me to all these other great axe users. The first video I ever watched of Steve’s was his make it chop video, it was long yet very engaging. I was hooked. Then I started watching Ben Scott and Owen Jarvis and thought wow these guys are great I want to get an axe and chop like them. Never once did I think I’d have any input for the axe community and definitely never thought I would film myself. Then I started learning more about the cord wood challenge and I really wanted to become more comfortable around an axe and become a proficient user. At this point (last October) I had never used an axe before in my life !! I’m sure glad I came across these great people and pushes myself out of my comfort zone !! As far as council tool axes go, I think they’re amazing !! Best modern affordable user axe on the market !! I honestly think they can get away with charging more for some of their products (I’m glad they don’t because I can still afford them lol) I haven’t pulled the plug on the velvicut boys axe yet, I will one day !! Thank you for the added info on it. I wish I jumped on the forestry axe when it came back around, I still kick myself for more jumping on it. Thank you so much for watching and for the awesome comment !! I hope you get the time to check out my other videos and future ones, I look forward to seeing back in the comments !! Thanks again 👍

    • @dennisobrien3618
      @dennisobrien3618 2 года назад +1

      @@940joey2 don't worry I've watched all your videos and enjoy pretty much all of them. Keep up the good work!

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад

      @@dennisobrien3618 oh wow thanks man !! I really appreciate that 🙌

  • @townieoutdoors8121
    @townieoutdoors8121 2 года назад +1

    Council tool handle needs some thinning, the vintage looks like it is flexible enough already . Cool video

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад

      Hey thanks for watching !! Yeah I couldn’t agree more, i thinned my council tool down a bit and the vintage axe i thinned that handle is about 3/4” think and if your not from the states about 19mm. I think the CT is a great option for new and veteran axe users and if someone didn’t want to touch it it’s kinda capable but I def lean on the side of tuning it up 👍

  • @Apalm12
    @Apalm12 2 года назад +1

    Yes they have the ridges and I love them little more work to hang but it will never come loose. I’ve even seen them with horrible shelf’s on the handle and those ribs still don’t let it come loose

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад

      Thank you !! Yeah I agree they can be a bear to hang but the fiction behind the idea is great, I’ve never had a vintage head with eye ridges come loose !!

  • @bushleague3472
    @bushleague3472 11 месяцев назад

    I agree that on my sub 3lb axes there seems to be little difference between the convex and flat cheeks. On my 4lb axes I do think theres a noticeable difference. I use these bigger axes mostly for splitting though, so I personally cant say whether its something to do with the bigger bit, or if its something to do with splitting bigger rounds.

  • @Codi_Clapper
    @Codi_Clapper 2 года назад +2

    I agree with you, I have a vintage council tool boys axe and a 2020 stamped one. The vintage has a high centerline and thicker poll. Truly a superior design. But in the small wood that you cut with a boys axe it really just doesn’t make much of a difference. In fact I use the new, flat cheeked one a lot more because it makes a great limber.

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Codi !! Yeah man I agree, when it comes to a boys axe for the size work you’re doing with it, it doesn’t make to much of a difference. Now when it comes to bigger axes let’s say a jersey vs a Dayton full size axes like 3.5 lb to 4 lb. the jersey is more flat cheeked where the Dayton or Michigan is a noticeable high center line and in the case they act like completely different axes. 👍

    • @Codi_Clapper
      @Codi_Clapper 2 года назад

      @@940joey2 Absolutely!

  • @KevinsDisobedience
    @KevinsDisobedience 2 года назад +2

    Yes, the CT Velvicut has those damn ribs, which I hate. Topic for another time. As for as the hcl goes, I don’t think it matters on a small axe. It’s just too small to make any real difference.

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад

      Thanks Kevin, interesting that they’re still putting an axe out with eye ridges. I agree, for me eye ridges are such a love hate relationship !! I love those function and the idea behind them, but hanging them can be an absolute bear !! Yeah I grew with that as well HCL doesn’t seem to impact a smaller as much as it does on a vintage full size axe. The vintage full size axes seem to have a much more pronounced HCL especially a vintage Michigan or Dayton.

  • @rogerrobinson4446
    @rogerrobinson4446 2 года назад +1

    Three years ago one of the best investments to be made was vintage axe heads. With the increased interest lately they're bringing almost triple the price on eBay. Better snatch them up for cheap at yard sales and flea markets while you can.

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад +1

      Absolutely I couldn’t agree more !! I love my vintage axes but the way the market is now unless you find a real gem it’s not worth paying triple the price for an unmarked head just because it’s vintage on eBay !! Yard sales are where it’s at, some of the flea market people are starting to get educated on the vintage axes but you can usually pull a way better deal then you’ll ever get on eBay especially if you buy more than one from the person selling them if they have more than one 👍

  • @cannontaylor97
    @cannontaylor97 2 года назад +1

    Good Video! What woods are you cutting in?

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад +1

      Thank you !! The tree I’m chopping was a dead standing beech tree and I’m in northeast Pennsylvania. Not sure the correct name for my kind of woods.

    • @cannontaylor97
      @cannontaylor97 2 года назад

      @@940joey2 Really thats awesome! Im from Utah on the border of Idaho. Lots of pines and aspens!

  • @JFBradfields-Axed-n-Answered
    @JFBradfields-Axed-n-Answered Год назад +1

    The Council Tool utiilty model has a tapered eye. Holds the head fine without ridges.. That, and it's hung proud to mushroom over the eye.

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  Год назад

      Thanks for watching !! Yes I’m glad they do the proud hang I hang all my axes that way, so I was happy to see that. Believe it or not the ct boys axe is not a tapered eye unfortunately, I wish it was it makes for a better hang. Unless my particular axe head isn’t tapered, but I measured it with a micrometer and found it’s a straight through eye. Im wondering if that’s since been addressed I’d have to get my hands on a newer one. Thanks again !!

    • @JFBradfields-Axed-n-Answered
      @JFBradfields-Axed-n-Answered Год назад

      Point well taken. They just made some big changes to the line in '23. Some things I point out were not true about the red-painted ones, definitely. @@940joey2

  • @maxhannum4616
    @maxhannum4616 2 года назад +1

    Yeah, I noticed my vintage boys axe had more of a straight wedge shape compared to another newer axe head I had, not sure if it really affected much

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching !! Yeah you do see some more true wedge shapes on the vintage axes, on the lighter axes I feel maybe it’s not too noticeable but once you get into the heavy stuff it makes a big difference. The vintage true wedge shapes are usually from Maine !! They’re great man hang on to it 👍

    • @maxhannum4616
      @maxhannum4616 2 года назад +1

      It was pitted to hell, but cuts through wood like it's nothing, crazy stuff

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад +1

      @@maxhannum4616 heck yeah !! Ya know the pitting isn’t always bad I have a couple heads like that and it gives it character it tells a story 👍

  • @jamesschneider3828
    @jamesschneider3828 2 года назад +1

    Standing on that unstable log I cringed on the thought you would lose your balance and do some chopping of leg parts. The second half with you standing on the ground looks much safer.

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching !! I totally agree, I was thinking the same thing after I re watched it, I didn’t really think to much of it in the moment !! Yes keeping the axe away from the legs is imperative 👍

  • @chimmy4244
    @chimmy4244 2 года назад +1

    Cool comparison. I'm a vintage axe guy but I've been thinking about a Council Tool boys axe lately just because you can't beat the price. Has the head remained tight on yours since you rehung it?

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад +1

      Thanks chimmy !! Yeah man I complete agree my heart is definitely with the vintage axes, there’s nothing like them. With that said the new council tool axes are great and quite possibly the next best thing to vintage, they got it going on !! Yeah man once I re hung the head I’ve used the hell out of it hasn’t come loose yet !!

    • @yungsmile7546
      @yungsmile7546 2 года назад +1

      All nine of my CT axes are excellent in all regards and several are perfect. I returned two of eleven for defects upon receiving them. Council Tool is IMHO the best that can be had at any price and all materials sourced and Made in 🇺🇸

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад

      @@yungsmile7546 you hit the nail on the head there !! I couldn’t have said it better myself. Council tool is definitely top notch !! Love them 👍

  • @tomvana4270
    @tomvana4270 Год назад +1

    Combining log rolling and wood chopping.

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  Год назад

      Hahaha heck yeah !!! Thanks for watching 🤙

  • @scottflanagan7927
    @scottflanagan7927 2 года назад +1

    jute lesson thanks you

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад

      You’re welcome !! Thanks for watching 👍

  • @Bkellyusa
    @Bkellyusa 2 года назад +2

    Does either one make any difference in how much effort it takes to use it? Efficiency versus effort counts for me.
    I don't know how.much difference new vs vintage means to me. I like new cause it's ready to go but with all the mods people make with both types axes I don't know if you could really claim that one is inherently bett than the other.
    I know Ben Scott prefers new and has made several good points but ultimately a good tool is a good tool. When it was made is not the most important difference between the two.

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад

      I think both options are great honestly !! It would be really hard for me to pick one or the other, they both chop extremely well. Obviously 90% of the time a vintage head will need work even if it’s just simple work. Yeah a new axe you can take out of the box and use which is awesome, but that really comes down to the user and the more you use axes you’ll eventually find what suits you best. I’m that case it may not be how the axes comes so you’ll be doing some kind of work anyway but it’ll mainly be minor, like changing the bit and cheek angle, and thinking the handle if it’s too thick. That’s why I think council tool axes are the best go to users out of the box, you really can just use them as is. I have another CT I haven’t touched and it feels and works just fine. The handle is next to perfect !! Ben Scott is very knowledgeable, I always listen to what he has to say he makes very good points on vintage vs new !!

    • @Bkellyusa
      @Bkellyusa 2 года назад +1

      @@940joey2 - Thanks for the detailed reply. I only have two Council Tool Axes. One is a 40 year old full size axe and the other is the Flying Fox. To me the Flying Axe is very much underpriced for the quality you get and with the hardened poll and bit it's in a class by itself.
      Lately I've been looking at a Snow & Nealley. The many positive comments about the quality of the steel they use has really got my attention. If you have an opinion about that brand one way or the other I'd love to hear it.
      Much continued success.

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад

      @@Bkellyusa you’re welcome, yes the flying fox is a great tool and I believe a bit under estimated, it’s quite capable !! As far as snow and neally go I love them I don’t own any but I have used a couple of the vintage ones and I think they’re great, now with that being said I have Zero experience with they’re new line of axes. What I’ve heard is a mix of good and bad like anything else. I think for the right price I would definitely give them a shot 👍

    • @Bkellyusa
      @Bkellyusa 2 года назад +1

      @@940joey2 - First off, sorry aobut your injury to your hand. Hope you get well soon.
      As it is now, of the newer axes I am most impressed with the Council Tool axes. Mostly because I think they build classic style axes but at the same time they are more innovative sometimes than other companies. Hardening the poll and bit on some of their axes is one of their better features but phantom bevels, ribbed heads for the handle are also worth mentioning. It's not that they invented all of that stuff but it is noticeable that they are using those features on their current axes while most others are not.
      The steel they use is on there Velvicut models is also impressive. No one I know of is using that kind of alloy. I am not that familiar with is but I know people who are and they are impressed with it.
      That said I restrain my complete enthusiasm for the brand due to the annoying amount of quality control issues they have. Every manufacture has these issues occasionally but at the prices that some of the CT axes are going for currently I expect better.
      What gets me about the Snow & Nealley is the steel they use. I think it's 1080. That's good stuff. Plus they're made by the Amish who are known for their quality craftsmanship skills but not only that they are a culture that still uses axes regularly. With all of that they should excel at making axes. That impresses me.
      I am retired and have to watch my money so I am not in the habit of just buying axes to try out. I need to buy what I want and need. In truth I have enough axes to get my work done but I'd like to get a few more for specific uses. The Boys Axes type of axes look real interesting to me.
      Anyhow, thanks for all of the great videos.

    • @940joey2
      @940joey2  2 года назад

      @@Bkellyusa thank you so much I’m trying to take it easy as I can with my hand. I totally agree while I think council tool axes are amazing and they’re doing great things like continuing great axe styles of the past, but they do have some QC issues I agree. Other than 2 of those axes coming loose on me I haven’t had any major issues. Now with that said to some people that may be a huge issue and I totally get that.
      Yeah I did a little research on the news snow and nealley line of axes and yeah supposedly they were bought by an Amish company or at least they’re made by Amish now and anything made by the Amish is known to be good, so that’s a good sign!!
      Yeah I totally hear where your coming from about just randomly buying axes to try out and possibly not being satisfied can get a little expensive. And at the end of the day you can only use one axe at a time. Also yeah man I couldn’t agree more, the boys axe size and weight has to be my absolute favorite !!