David what a great job you did on this interview , I was working at Zuma Jays in Malibu in 82 .Cheyne came into the shop with his Laser Zap .At that time boards had the mid point above center .I had gone through factory training to take the orders behind the counter .I was telling all the customers to move the midpoint 2" behind center where we stand .We sold hundreds of them and the modern outline we surf today was born . Cheyne is the godfather of modern surfing . Lastly I purchased a star fin and made a board .The thing flys and does not lose speed in turns .Im living proof and testament to his knowledge and brilliance .I could go on for hours .
@lalaboards Wow, what a fantastic story! 🙌✨Cheyne is the godfather of modern surfing. 🌊🔱 Your firsthand experience is pure gold. We'd love to hear more! Email us to be featured in our "Pros in the Wild" series! 🏄♂️📧 #SurfLegends #ProsInTheWild #SurfboardEvolution
Cheyne is an innovator to this day. Super jazzed you got him in the show. I just wrote a piece on Legendary Surfers about Cheyne and Geoff McCoy. Super stoked on the historical aspect of surfing! Great work David
Thanks a bunch, @brentflaaten5944! Cheyne's innovation is truly remarkable, and it's awesome to hear your enthusiasm for his contributions to surfing history. Shoot us the link to your article; we would all be stoked to read it! 🤙 #surficons
Legend ! I am so grateful for being sanding his boards here in Australia ! Part of my history as groin up and seeing himself all over the magazines 🙌🍻 thanks for the great interview 👍
@Surfartefacts Legend indeed! 🙌🍻 Sanding his boards in Australia-what an epic part of your history! Thanks for sharing and for the great interview feedback! 👍 #SurfHeroes #CheyneHoran
Love the description of bringing the surfboard shape around to where you stand. His skateboard turn and operate from the one spot reference. AND his statements on seemingly irrelevant other stuff than the actual surf performance when judging, HMMM. YEA bland more characters are needed Bobby Martinez. AND love how CH remembers every Judge, competitor and events. AND his singular approach to surfing SEE he doesn't need others verifying what he knows is obvious. YEA CH at RJs.
Thanks for having this legendary dude on here. What a dead set prodigy!! I first started seeing Cheyne's Toyota Hiace Surf School vehicle at Surfers Paradise and Burleigh Heads. I was, who is this guy!! World champ. I've never heard of him. Coming from a surf, bodyboard, longboard etc kind of background. But yeah, even watching him surf I think I didn't like but will definitely have to go back and check it out. Seen his face, probably said gday a bunch but dam, so interesting. Keen to try his designs!!❤
I’m Cheyne’s age and thought back then he got ripped off and should have got a couple of MR’s titles. As a young surfer skater myself I related to his style and approach more. Legend.
He legitimately did get ripped off. I spoke with McCoy in Agnes before he passed and he explained that the big sponsors didn't like him because he wouldn't go to the after party's and crall up there asses. Cheynes scores suffered as a result.
Shit....Was listening and Cheyne said something that resonated with riding a Star Fin Zap...Hard boards to ride but you can actually carry speed in the flats
I bought one of Cheyne's old Rip Curl steamers from Bondi Surf Co back in the late 80s. It was a little too big, but I didn't care. I wore it home on the bus dripping wet. What a hellman, Horan is.
@joedirt8625 - I'm glad you enjoyed the interview 🤙 ......"You don't got no lady fingers, fuzz buttles, snicker bombs, church burners, finger blasters, gut busters, zippity do das, or crap flappers?"
Thanks for the shoutout, @bunsolo! Glad you found the content interesting. And hey, props for spotting Mjolnir in the background! 😄 #AppreciateTheObservation #surfpodcast
I have that keel in one of my single fins.. It goes rather well. I also watched Cheyne pull the longest floater I've ever seen at a coke comp in Wollongong from seemingly no speed. He was Kelly- like on water..anti gravity surfing you can't teach..
Use to see him rip it up at Bondi back in the 80s in after school waves. Just another level. Generated so much speed from nothing and if there was 50-60 blokes out in the water, he would be just dominating everything seemlessly. A phenom.
What an absolute legand very humble very normal and such a huge contribution to Australian and world surfing. Thank you for the interview. Was very fantastic 😊.
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Derek Hynd on a podcast tells the story of when Cheyne got rip off after he left Bronzed Aussies he was surfing in a heat at Haleiwa and as he was paddling into a wave at the end of the heat to win they sounded the horn early and the wave didn’t score… 2nd to MR. Cheyne’s brashness and popularity must of rubbed the old school the wrong way… So many dodgy scoring decisions in 2024 with video reply… can’t imagine 1980. Having a look at Cheyne in 2024 he has definitely won!
Greta show guys. Listened on my bike ride to and from work. Had a few McCoys. Loved holding them, I just could never bury the rail on bottom turns and would spin out quite a bit.
@@ba1428 . Cheyne is pulling down rails these days and the boards hold the rail Nicky in turns . Good luck . I heard they are doing stem cell treatment for eyes now too . Also stem cell tablets if I’m not mistaken .
@@lalaboards thanks for the tip. I'm basically on maks these days as a weekend warrior. Last time I face planted on a 6'5 McCoy bottom turn I sold my last one and swore never again. Haha
Thank you, great interview. Cheyne articulates and illuminates some very important matters of surfing history, progress, and ratfuckery. As he said, he stands alone. Bless him. The most ripped off person in competitive surfing. And what about the Greg Webber connection. Get him on.
Interesting comment on the judging. Nat Young should take this to WSL and get his results in the Gold Coast Pro rectified. I recon he should have come second. Great interview.
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Cheyne, and the star fin I used that fin up into the 2000, the 757 fins like his in the 80s 90s aero dynamic. is where its at kids, listen up good info
I remember surfing with him for the first time out at sanur while the Bali beach hotel was burning down it was the first time I had seen Im surf live. What a great day that was for me I will always remember it
Epic @wendymorgan6651 • surfing with legends always stays with you, especially at an epic righthander. That inside section is no joke! #surficons #SurfingMemories 🏄♀️🔥
CH remembers so much because he needed to process it all. Understand the impact of others on his successes and how to move forward positively. Great conversation. The titles should be investigated for righting wrongs of the past. That Lightning Bolt story is so bad. The thing with todays judging is hard for the average punter to understand. How do you become a judge? What quals are needed? Are they rotated? What is the training? Who are they? Id like to see an insight film into that side of surfing. For me it would be more motivating to watch the competitions. Nice work DLS
He rode waiama huge on a shortboard. Did you miss that. He can hold his own but he is not known for a big wave rider of that's what you mean. And kaina point I think.
Thank you for the chime and support @jamescondylis461 • but maybe read this?! "Cheyne Horan Riding Waimea on a 5’ 8” McCoy Lazor Zap." museumofsurf.com/cheyne-horans-20-wave/
come on @ta4760 • how about the "Horan Fan?" (wrong Horan). Star Fin? Have you heard of the "Floater?" #cheynegang (hit that subscribe por favor) *** It's like catching a magic carpet ride on the waves! #floater
Of course experimental and a big chance to take in a top competition but your statement to start the podcast doesn’t account for the growth the sport was still going thru at that time and the room for improvement available. You could say the same thing for Simon A and twins and anyone the first contest the showed up for, but this fin and design did not stand the test of time, thus rendering you comment less valid, not invalid but not nearly as revolutionary as you’re making it seem. The fin was basically never seen again. But hey, click bait. 😉
Hey @hoopsla5235, appreciate your enlightening feedback and podcast support! Your thoughts on surfboard design got me thinking. Are you secretly the surf whisperer? Your insights are pure gold! 🏄♂️✨
Your retort is filled with contention and sarcasm but so does mine, which would make me a hypocrite to not accept or invite an equal amount of conversational criticism. So first acknowledgement of your questions, no, never claimed to be, so I ask back, can’t people just be well researched and have opinions even if not self educated? There is a thing called the internet these days. Clearly my few comments lately have you provoked enough to engage yah? 😉 However you did not respond with any historical contradictions to my points, thus offering a counter conclusion or proving me wrong. Why not address my specific exact point that the same could be said for all the new designsx, thrusters from Simon, twins and other experiments along those same small timeline of years. That was a time period of advancement and experimentation. So any narrative like your comment could’ve been said about each invention at thier time of introduction to the sport. Who hurt me, am I an incel or some kook, - your surf whisperer comment is very unoriginal and not intelligently contributing to the conversation at all. Couldn’t the same be questioned of your statement about it of the wing fin? Bring me on a podcast or create a throw away email and link in your bio and we can have a know it all debate and talk it out 😉
For sure - give us a call on the listener line! Email is in the description too...My feedback with the fin would be it did stand the test of time and transitioned into the modern day foil! We definitely appreciate all our listeners opinions, feedback, and stories! 🤝 #surfdebate
@@SurfSplendor reaching bro, also trying to one up and lil bro people ain’t a sexy look when someone already called out helping kids. You just had to one up didn’t ya David. Weak sauce. You go on wit your bad self. Done…🤦♂
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Theres a parallel universe and Cheyne won 5 world titles...A true Australian gentleman
@GoonieGooner * Cheyne's talent is out of this world indeed. A true Australian legend! 🏆 #surflegends
I'm 62 and grew up in his period bloody champion who always did it his way
David what a great job you did on this interview ,
I was working at Zuma Jays in Malibu in 82 .Cheyne came into the shop with his Laser Zap .At that time boards had the mid point above center .I had gone through factory training to take the orders behind the counter .I was telling all the customers to move the midpoint 2" behind center where we stand .We sold hundreds of them and the modern outline we surf today was born . Cheyne is the godfather of modern surfing .
Lastly I purchased a star fin and made a board .The thing flys and does not lose speed in turns .Im living proof and testament to his knowledge and brilliance .I could go on for hours .
@lalaboards Wow, what a fantastic story! 🙌✨Cheyne is the godfather of modern surfing. 🌊🔱 Your firsthand experience is pure gold. We'd love to hear more! Email us to be featured in our "Pros in the Wild" series! 🏄♂️📧 #SurfLegends #ProsInTheWild #SurfboardEvolution
Cheyne is an innovator to this day. Super jazzed you got him in the show. I just wrote a piece on Legendary Surfers about Cheyne and Geoff McCoy. Super stoked on the historical aspect of surfing! Great work David
Thanks a bunch, @brentflaaten5944! Cheyne's innovation is truly remarkable, and it's awesome to hear your enthusiasm for his contributions to surfing history. Shoot us the link to your article; we would all be stoked to read it! 🤙 #surficons
@@SurfSplendor will do, thanks!!
RIP Geoff McCoy
You might need to get MR, Rabbit and PT on.. see what they think of the lightning bolt rigging?
Cheney rode a reverse teardrop (likt a 5’ 3”) with his keel fin at huge Waimea… his thighs are like tree trunks… Cheney Horan is Badass
What a show 🙏🏽
Cheyne is a huge legend! Awesome 👌
Big thanks, @wagnervieirasantiago8983! Cheyne's legendary status definitely shines through. Glad you enjoyed it! 👍 #AppreciateTheSupport
Great show. Cheyne is one of a kind!
Thanks for the praise and support, @rogerpye1865! Cheyne's uniqueness truly makes him stand out. Cheyne gang for life! 🤙 #CheyneSupport #surfhistory
Legend ! I am so grateful for being sanding his boards here in Australia ! Part of my history as groin up and seeing himself all over the magazines 🙌🍻 thanks for the great interview 👍
@Surfartefacts Legend indeed! 🙌🍻 Sanding his boards in Australia-what an epic part of your history! Thanks for sharing and for the great interview feedback! 👍 #SurfHeroes #CheyneHoran
Love the description of bringing the surfboard shape around to where you stand. His skateboard turn and operate from the one spot reference. AND his statements on seemingly irrelevant other stuff than the actual surf performance when judging, HMMM. YEA bland more characters are needed Bobby Martinez. AND love how CH remembers every Judge, competitor and events. AND his singular approach to surfing SEE he doesn't need others verifying what he knows is obvious. YEA CH at RJs.
I remember Cheyne surfing here in Brasil in 78, 80, 81. He was ahead of everyone, even MR. He should have been world champion at least once.
Thanks for sharing your memories, @pedromayallguilayn507! Cheyne was undoubtedly a standout talent. 🏄♂️ #surficons
Thanks for the interview with Cheyene.legend
Thanks for having this legendary dude on here. What a dead set prodigy!! I first started seeing Cheyne's Toyota Hiace Surf School vehicle at Surfers Paradise and Burleigh Heads. I was, who is this guy!! World champ. I've never heard of him. Coming from a surf, bodyboard, longboard etc kind of background. But yeah, even watching him surf I think I didn't like but will definitely have to go back and check it out. Seen his face, probably said gday a bunch but dam, so interesting. Keen to try his designs!!❤
Well done guys great interview 🌊🏄👍👍👍
I remember having a poster on my bedroom wall as a kid of Cheyne.
I’m Cheyne’s age and thought back then he got ripped off and should have got a couple of MR’s titles. As a young surfer skater myself I related to his style and approach more. Legend.
Same, and I second this. As Cheyne said, he was doing things that were not on the menu. And before him there was Larry Bertleman.
He legitimately did get ripped off. I spoke with McCoy in Agnes before he passed and he explained that the big sponsors didn't like him because he wouldn't go to the after party's and crall up there asses. Cheynes scores suffered as a result.
Shit....Was listening and Cheyne said something that resonated with riding a Star Fin Zap...Hard boards to ride but you can actually carry speed in the flats
I bought one of Cheyne's old Rip Curl steamers from Bondi Surf Co back in the late 80s. It was a little too big, but I didn't care. I wore it home on the bus dripping wet. What a hellman, Horan is.
Great Interview..Thanks
@joedirt8625 - I'm glad you enjoyed the interview 🤙 ......"You don't got no lady fingers, fuzz buttles, snicker bombs, church burners, finger blasters, gut busters, zippity do das, or crap flappers?"
Excellent interview 🏄♀️👍👍👍👍👍
What a legend. So interesting. Thanks for this one. Also Mjolnir chillin on the shelf behind… 😂
Thanks for the shoutout, @bunsolo! Glad you found the content interesting. And hey, props for spotting Mjolnir in the background! 😄 #AppreciateTheObservation #surfpodcast
I have that keel in one of my single fins.. It goes rather well.
I also watched Cheyne pull the longest floater I've ever seen at a coke comp in Wollongong from seemingly no speed. He was Kelly- like on water..anti gravity surfing you can't teach..
Nice setup with the keel, @paulrummery6905! Inventor and Master of the #floater
🤙🤙🤙 #floatgoat
Use to see him rip it up at Bondi back in the 80s in after school waves. Just another level. Generated so much speed from nothing and if there was 50-60 blokes out in the water, he would be just dominating everything seemlessly. A phenom.
What an absolute legand very humble very normal and such a huge contribution to Australian and world surfing.
Thank you for the interview.
Was very fantastic 😊.
@andrewgillen5636 Hats off to the icon! 🏄♂️🎩 Grateful for tuning in to our podcast! Don't miss out-hit that subscribe button! 🎧🔥 #SurfLegend #HumbleHero
@5:14 -
Was lucky enough to see Holeman surf when I was younger. boardwalk - used to be a decent break.
Appreciate you sharing that memory, @jeffg4686!
I respect this man because he was different he love surfing
Absolutely, @catinthehat8412! Cheyne's passion for surfing shines through his unique approach. Respect to a true surf legend! 🏄
Derek Hynd on a podcast tells the story of when Cheyne got rip off after he left Bronzed Aussies he was surfing in a heat at Haleiwa and as he was paddling into a wave at the end of the heat to win they sounded the horn early and the wave didn’t score… 2nd to MR.
Cheyne’s brashness and popularity must of rubbed the old school the wrong way… So many dodgy scoring decisions in 2024 with video reply… can’t imagine 1980.
Having a look at Cheyne in 2024 he has definitely won!
Truth.
Greta show guys.
Listened on my bike ride to and from work.
Had a few McCoys. Loved holding them, I just could never bury the rail on bottom turns and would spin out quite a bit.
He fixed that with the star fin .
@@lalaboards oh well, I can't get out until I can get contacts in,or eye surgery now anyways
@@ba1428 . Cheyne is pulling down rails these days and the boards hold the rail Nicky in turns . Good luck . I heard they are doing stem cell treatment for eyes now too . Also stem cell tablets if I’m not mistaken .
@@lalaboards thanks for the tip. I'm basically on maks these days as a weekend warrior. Last time I face planted on a 6'5 McCoy bottom turn I sold my last one and swore never again. Haha
Thank you, great interview. Cheyne articulates and illuminates some very important matters of surfing history, progress, and ratfuckery. As he said, he stands alone. Bless him. The most ripped off person in competitive surfing. And what about the Greg Webber connection. Get him on.
Interesting comment on the judging. Nat Young should take this to WSL and get his results in the Gold Coast Pro rectified. I recon he should have come second. Great interview.
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The Lightning Bolt mafia account: accurate. (Shipley was notorious) Such a shame watching people that I really liked, disgrace themselves for Bolt.
@davidfpuu, Spot on. It's sad seeing folks we admire stoop low for the Bolt. Real shame, man. ⚡
Cheyne, and the star fin I used that fin up into the 2000, the 757 fins like his in the 80s 90s aero dynamic. is where its at kids, listen up good info
@mannyaldama2450 • thanks for sharing 🏄✍ #finstories
I remember surfing with him for the first time out at sanur while the Bali beach hotel was burning down it was the first time I had seen Im surf live.
What a great day that was for me I will always remember it
Epic @wendymorgan6651 • surfing with legends always stays with you, especially at an epic righthander. That inside section is no joke! #surficons #SurfingMemories 🏄♀️🔥
Thanks
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Really enjoy seeing the interview and the photos compared to just listening.
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two years in a row 2nd place in XL awards (behind Carlos Burle and then young Rothman)
Was way ahead of his time and the judges didnt know how to score him.
while i love cheyne horan, the DLS chest wig really ties the room together!
looks like bigfoots chest on the Six Million Dollar Man
42:30 Cheyene, what about Pat Mulhorn from FLA Re. Aerials/
The rorting in the sport isnt surprising but very hard cop.
Did he say he came to California to do some skating?
Yep! Still skating, too.
CH remembers so much because he needed to process it all. Understand the impact of others on his successes and how to move forward positively.
Great conversation.
The titles should be investigated for righting wrongs of the past.
That Lightning Bolt story is so bad.
The thing with todays judging is hard for the average punter to understand.
How do you become a judge?
What quals are needed?
Are they rotated?
What is the training?
Who are they?
Id like to see an insight film into that side of surfing. For me it would be more motivating to watch the competitions.
Nice work DLS
Watched him surf back in the 70’s at Bondi Australia . Great surfer ,shame he couldn’t cope with the big waves .
He rode waiama huge on a shortboard. Did you miss that. He can hold his own but he is not known for a big wave rider of that's what you mean. And kaina point I think.
Thank you for the chime and support @jamescondylis461 • but maybe read this?! "Cheyne Horan Riding Waimea on a 5’ 8” McCoy Lazor Zap."
museumofsurf.com/cheyne-horans-20-wave/
👍😎
55:07 Two Thirds foil, please elaborate ?
Dude! Compile a list of all questions - we can do an entire podcast on these! #dudequestions 😎
Dance on water.
Boogie on your board.
Love the poetic vibe, @1punch1000x! 🕺🏄
Geez it doesnt put MR in a good light
Yeah but the Carbon looks Sexy. That’s all that matters to some
@dudeleboski2692 -easy upsell 😏 #CarbonCrush
1:07:22 Really Cheyne, are you sure that you’re family’s issues to being overweight is not due to Coke and Candy Bars?
@dudeleboski2692 • always on point...🍫🥤 #FoodForThought
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Laughable, the odds were against him in his generation of surfing, he was good a top tier competitor but he didn’t change or pioneer anything
come on @ta4760 • how about the "Horan Fan?" (wrong Horan). Star Fin? Have you heard of the "Floater?" #cheynegang (hit that subscribe por favor) *** It's like catching a magic carpet ride on the waves! #floater
Of course experimental and a big chance to take in a top competition but your statement to start the podcast doesn’t account for the growth the sport was still going thru at that time and the room for improvement available. You could say the same thing for Simon A and twins and anyone the first contest the showed up for, but this fin and design did not stand the test of time, thus rendering you comment less valid, not invalid but not nearly as revolutionary as you’re making it seem. The fin was basically never seen again. But hey, click bait. 😉
Hey @hoopsla5235, appreciate your enlightening feedback and podcast support! Your thoughts on surfboard design got me thinking. Are you secretly the surf whisperer? Your insights are pure gold! 🏄♂️✨
Your retort is filled with contention and sarcasm but so does mine, which would make me a hypocrite to not accept or invite an equal amount of conversational criticism. So first acknowledgement of your questions, no, never claimed to be, so I ask back, can’t people just be well researched and have opinions even if not self educated? There is a thing called the internet these days. Clearly my few comments lately have you provoked enough to engage yah? 😉 However you did not respond with any historical contradictions to my points, thus offering a counter conclusion or proving me wrong. Why not address my specific exact point that the same could be said for all the new designsx, thrusters from Simon, twins and other experiments along those same small timeline of years. That was a time period of advancement and experimentation. So any narrative like your comment could’ve been said about each invention at thier time of introduction to the sport.
Who hurt me, am I an incel or some kook, - your surf whisperer comment is very unoriginal and not intelligently contributing to the conversation at all. Couldn’t the same be questioned of your statement about it of the wing fin? Bring me on a podcast or create a throw away email and link in your bio and we can have a know it all debate and talk it out 😉
For sure - give us a call on the listener line! Email is in the description too...My feedback with the fin would be it did stand the test of time and transitioned into the modern day foil! We definitely appreciate all our listeners opinions, feedback, and stories! 🤝 #surfdebate
@@SurfSplendor reaching bro, also trying to one up and lil bro people ain’t a sexy look when someone already called out helping kids. You just had to one up didn’t ya David. Weak sauce. You go on wit your bad self. Done…🤦♂
Yes… Cheyenne is right… psychedelics only bring out what is already there… and build on that… my experience…with myself and seeing other personalities deal with things… as a hey come into your experience 🪷