Do The Most Attractive Women Have More Sex?
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Alex DatePsych explains whether the most attractive women have the most sex. Is there a relationship between attractiveness and sexual partners for women? What predicts promiscuity in relationships? How does Evolutionary Psychology explain this?
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Only the attractive women would know. Survey data is unreliable and certainly a male's speculation on the data is not reliable. invite an attractive woman on the panel and tell her to show you all her direct messages from her sexual partners. There you shall find the truth.
@@kenyanicholas6809 which is a waste of a perfectly good spam bot. god what drek.
In my life experience its the average and below average people that have the highest body counts.
For women yes. For men is the opposite. Attractive men have a lot of intimate partners.
@@azar1520 So that means the attractive men are sleeping with average and below average women.
@@crimson6172
With all of them to be honest. However, they would only date seriously the attractive women.
@@azar1520 The difference is that what makes a man attractive are not necessarily his physical attributes. We know that most players are average looking.
Facts 🔥
Extremely attractive women have less partners because the attention they get is enough to satiate their feminine need for approval.
While less attractive usually have to go all the way to get attention.
That’s true. However, if the very attractive woman was abandoned by their father at a young age then you end up seeing an extremely promiscuous woman; this goes for all women, but the very attractive women with “daddy issues” are capable getting with more men. I’m talking about setting up “trains”, or****, etc… They also end up capitalizing on this which makes them even more promiscuous.
There is another aspect; I can only speak for myself, but if I want to have sex and i saw two women, one is a 10 and one is a 6 I'm going for the 6 every time, because she is far more likely to say yes. Any reasoning man would likely say the same.
nahh… more like they don’t find anybody worthy enough to have s*x
@@johnnyringo3871 you are 100%right... this is very true... of course it will never reach the level of sexual relation... but three years ago i had a collegue at university and he was engaged so i trust him and considered him as a brother, but he suddenly started texting alot and started even calling and saying lovely word (which i hate very much bc as a woman i beleive if a man love me he would ask me for marriage other than that he is lying) so i figured out his engagement failed, although he had many girls as collegues but i guss being the most ugly made him to choose to annoy me, i immediately ended the whole brotherhood and stopped trust him or ask him anything , he insulted me and kept annoying me but i don't care, even if i am average i am more confident than all pretty girls. 😊now i am graduating from college clean🤣🤣🤣🤣
“Feminine need to approval” everybody crave approval it has nothing to do with femininity or masculinity. It’s deeply ingrained in human hardwire.
Worked for a modelling agency for years in NYC & London - this is pretty much exactly my understanding. Almost all the main board models were in relationships with some successful guy or someone they've known for years in their home countries. They weren't partying or any of the usual stereotypes.
It also made them super reliable and easy to book - which in turn makes clients more likely to repeat book or have extend buyouts.
Interesting research. Now all these experiences make much more sense.
Truly beautiful women aren't seeking validation
@@ironmonkey1512 Every woman likes attention. Happily married or miserably single. 😘😁
@@davidbolha
Or miserably married and happily single
@@wyleecoyotee4252 🤣👍
At 5:15 is very true with the number tryout marriages
This matches my experience and observations. Less attractive women and many times overweight unattractive women will resort to sex more often than very attractive women.
I think it depends on s3x drive and what is available out there. If a woman has a high libido, she will obviously have more s3x. That is why even older women like Madonna are still thi*rsty. And then it also depends on what is available. In general, an attractive guy might not be good in pleasing a woman. And there are ofcourse other factors (his intelligence, his status, his money) which women consider before entering a long term relationship.
Also it depends on how driven the woman is. There are women who are very hardworking and passionate and want to achieve things before settling. For example, Taylor Swift and Selena Gomez are both extremely rich by themselves (both have net worth 400 Mil plus). Both had a huge dating list. They haven’t married yet despite both being 30+. Same with lawyers, doctors and so on. These women may be good looking (I recently saw many good looking doctors, what’s up with that?) but they wont settle down young.
I think also, for some women, getting sex can help temporarily boost their self esteem. If a woman is feeling unattractive, getting a guy to sleep with her may make her feel more sexy. However, that's temporary and an illusion, as many guys will sleep with a woman if she's offering it, even if they don't want to date her.
Bingo! I went to an all girl school. Ugly girls went down on boys within minutes of knowing them. It was the only way to tear their attention away from the hot girls. Insta sex is their only weapon.
Mhm. They want to create that emotional bond very quickly (to hide their character faults) so they can manipulate their partners early on. That of course reflects the state of one's self esteem,... 🤔😐
I can confirm the overweight hypothesis. 25% of girls marry with their first partner, when their first partner is a hookup, how much do you think that's gonna fuck their mind up.
Hi Chris you may have already read this book but, in the book "Dataclysm" by Christian Rudder he actually speaks about this. Basically the data points to the fact that most men avoid the most unattractive women but, they also avoid the most attractive women because they're afraid of them. Which means that 98% of men focus on women that are in the middle: the 4s, 5s and, 6s. This may seem like a benign thing but, the results on dating are monumental! Because of the fact that most average women (according to the data) get the majority of male attention they therefore over value their sexual market rating whereas the most attractive women under value their sexual market rating.
As a side note this may explain why most women that are 6s always think that they are 8s & 9s and, the women who are the true 9s always think they're just 7s & 8s. What I love about that book is that his sample size was 80 million people so no one can deny this is what is really happening... I mean I know they still will but I'm just saying.
I confirm this info
Wow that makes so much sense! Thanks for sharing this.
They are not afraid of them. Average is a better bet for longevity of the relationship.
Awesome
It's also because people don't want to put up with "Ferrari provlems" when they own a Ferrari...meaning there is certain level of real fear of losing, imposter syndrome and disbelief when you have an actually knockout woman...you don't want to fight the whole world for her everyday and still keep her ego from sky rocketing while not treating her like shit to maintain a good relationship that's NOT superficial.
Many hot but not (drop dead Gorgeous) women have Zero personality cause they were never forced beyond their looks.
When I was in college, the girls who slept around the most were the ones who felt they couldn’t say no whenever they received any kind of validation for their looks. So they would get tremendous validation from sudden sexual interest from men after being ignored all through high school.
The University of Notre Dame has issued a press release highlighting the research of sociologist Elizabeth McClintock (H/T: Stuart Schneiderman):
Handsome Wants as Handsome Does: Physical Attractiveness and Gender Differences in Revealed Sexual Preferences
“McClintock studies the impacts of physical attractiveness and age on mate selection and the effects of gender and income on relationships.”
1. For women, the number of sexual partners decreases with increasing physical attractiveness.
2. Very physically attractive women are more likely to form exclusive relationships than to form purely sexual relationships.
3. Attractive women are less likely to have sexual intercourse within the first week of meeting a partner.
4. Underweight and normal-weight women are more likely to report romantic experience.
5. Overweight women report approximately 10% more partners than normal-weight women whereas obese women report approximately 10% fewer partners.
6. For women the effect of being underweight on within-relationship outcomes resembles the effect of being very physically attractive. (Women don't have to be beautiful if they are really fit.)
1. For men, the number of sexual partners increases with increasing physical attractiveness (just the opposite of the finding for women).
This suggests that men seek a greater number of sexual partners than women. It also suggests that women only want to have sex with hot guys. Physically attractive men do better in the resulting competition for sexual access.
2. For men, being very physically attractive increases the chance of reporting purely sexual relationships (versus exclusive relationships).
3. Being physically attractive also increases the chance of having sexual intercourse in the first week of acquaintance. (Women will bang hot guys much earlier in the dating process.)
4. Normal-weight men report the most partners.
5. Underweight men report 17% fewer partners, and obese men are report 27% fewer partners.
Ok
Both men and women look for healthy partners and health is linked directly with attractiveness.
very interesting!
😊 I'm glad that the study mentioned that women prefer attractive men. Because I am a lady. I'm attractive and I like my man to be gorgeous too. And I'm so tired of hearing guys online lying saying that looks don't matter to women. When they definitely matter to attractive women, we don't want to F up our future kids DNA.❤
@@monejohn9973 they matter but they matter less to women than they do to men. Also I've heard women say other factors can make a man start to appear more attractive to them. Don't try to outshallow us 🤣
The hottest women are always the pickiest. If you aren't of some status, monetary level, or notoriety, they aren't going to pay attention to you let alone sleep with you. It makes sense that they have lower body counts. They know how to leverage their beauty for the maximum returns
@@Carlos.Rivera wouldnt very attractive women have many giga Chads chasing them. They would still be picky because of that
@@Carlos.Rivera gigachads chase these women but that doesn’t mean she’ll give in to all of them! She may settle down with one of them in the end, preferably if he has money! 😉
Yes, this makes sense. Also, the very attractive women understand instinctively that the more promiscuous they are, the greater their value diminishes. And they want to leverage their hotness and beauty into snagging the highest value man they can get, and they dont want to mess that up by lowering their worth to those high-value men by being being the town hoe.
I used to be a model and people do consider me a 8 on 10 in terms of attractiveness. I used my modelling money for my master's degree. I am 29 and my sexual body count is 4 men. I have a non modelling career now with a job I really like.
I don't give sex in first few months atleast. I have been taught by my mom (another very attractive woman...she is 58 but looks like 34 or my elder sister) that don't trust men easily, never undervalue yourself, never give sex easily, and they should like you for your personality, your values, etc - not your looks.
@@rocketlioness Bad idea. You’re approaching the wall and men with options aren’t going to wait months to have s3x with you especially when you’re not a virgin. Only desperate simps will. Also if you want guys to not see you solely as an object than you need to add value quick. Whether that’s cooking, cleaning, helping them with their business, etc. if you do that he will definitely keep you around and not treat you as an object.
This sounds about right when you look at women who are in polyamorous relationships. They’re not the best looking women.
Generally speaking, it's generally the unattractive people who are into kink because they have to appeal to someone's exotic fetish in order to get laid.
yeah I've noticed that. In my experience women that i find have more casual sex usually are unattractive to me anyway so it doesn't bother me as a virgin that they are having sex and I'm not.
@@michaelcueva530 you want these 10s, these top women
@@mrmaly9861 He wants 10s but like any man would ultimately be okay with 4s.
@@oemj7147 Why would men want an unattractive woman?
As a healthcare professional I got to perform Covid and HIV testing at a sex party and I saw that the average to cute looking girls (excuse my language) got passed around often and the hot women took their time and were very picky with whom they had sex with.
As an attractive woman, I’ve gone 1-2 years at a time without having sex. I get attention and offers from men but I don’t feel the need, and if I’m being honest, sex feels like a slightly different version of the same thing every single time… I’d take an honest and meaningful conversation over sex any day.
Simple appearance has little bearing on quality experience. There is also beauty of the genitals which may not translate.
"feels like the same thing every time" Is this cause there is an emotional component missing from the sex?
Aaaaaand WE can have as many meaningful conversations with friends, family, ANYONE. If we're attracted to you physically and want to spend time with you we WANT SEX. Great to know that you don't enjoy it at all. You're SUPPOSED to enjoy it. Why the hell does it have to be DIFFERENT every time? Jesus christ this is CLEARLY why y'all are way more likely to cheat "I'm bored"
And you wonder why men have given up. LOYALTY is resisting those CHILDLIKE urges to want constant new stimulation and attention. Go DO something CREATIVE if you're bored.
Reminds me of the tinder match that hadnt had any in 2 years. Subsequently claimed I used her for sex. In the beginning "yeah Im just looking for some good d". This was the ONE time that putting the size of my d on my profile worked. Said f it and did it to see what would happen 🤣
Single mother, two kids, two different fathers. Yeah I'm gonna get hitched to THAT. Delusional. Be thankful I effed you as good as I did. Made your workday great hooking up on lunch in the car because we worked a mile away from each other.
FELLAS as it's been said many times do NOT PAY ATTENTION to what women say, watch what they DO because it MOSTLY DOESN'T MATCH
It is because you are asexual or lesbian. And that is okay.
I was with these 2 girls near an Opera House once, and one said.
Girl 1: mmm, great opera is like great sex
Girl 2: Huh? Opera? You're crazy!
Girl 1: You haven't heard great opera!
Girl 2: You haven't had great sex!
I have to agree with girl 2. But I get what you mean. The wrong sex can seem that way. I'm a guy, I've had lots of sex that felt that way (even when the women seemed blown away, I wasn't). It's not that it didn't feel good and I didn't enjoy it biology does most of that - kind of like food. You can eat meh food, bad food, good food, REALLY good food and then sometimes you get "OH MY GOD!!/SLAP YOUR MAMA" kind of food.
The last line summed it up perfectly: men are mistakenly ascribing male behaviour to woman, erroneously assuming, "that's what I would do if I was an attractive woman."
Honestly it’s scary being a woman. Because people still try to rape you even if you’re unattractive so the idea of being a tractive scares me so much because I’m like no why would I want to be hot if I already don’t like the amount of attention I’m getting when people don’t think I’m attractive.
@@Alicia-vq8jg Yes, exactly! Men can't even begin to understand how it feels to be constantly stalked like prey.
There is a great video from psychologist Teal Swan where she explains to men how women live under constant fear of threats and attacks .
@@Alicia-vq8jg oh please, get some therapy, honey. And stop thinking all men are rapists. You're a misandrist.
@@Xianne027another male-bashing comment. And Teal Swan is no psychologist.
Well, this guy said it... Beautiful women don't have as much sex because they don't need to. They have options. Most men will hit on a 5 because they know she puts out, because she has to buy affection and attention with her "services", but a confident, attractive women can keep her dignity. It really puts a strong division between high-quality women and low-quality ones.
What
Well put
Does that mean it's a good thing I don't really get cat called? I have really low self esteem because I notice throughout the years my friends get hit on and men seem to run away from me. But it doesn't matter now because I'm with a sweet person. But in the past, this made me a bit depressed. Like I wasn't desirable
@@Ladeliciadelinda if you weren’t fat, you were probably too beautiful.
Well said 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
women that want to have a lot of sex have a lot of sex. any woman who has a waist smaller than her hips has no problem getting laid, and can from time to time punch way above her weight class than any man ever could.
I've never met an involuntarily celibate woman that wasn't obese. Ever. And I have been all around all types of women.
Im thin. Small waist. Attractive face. Involuntarily celibate for 10 years.
Dude you're one guy it means absolutely nothing that you haven't met an involuntary celibate woman.
How much s3x attractive women have depends on s3x drive and what is available out there. If a woman has a high libido, she will obviously have more s3x. That is why even older women like Madonna are still thi*rsty. And then it also depends on what is available. In general, an attractive guy might not be good in pleasing a woman. And there are ofcourse other factors (his intelligence, his status, his money) which women consider before entering a long term relationship.
Also it depends on how driven the woman is. There are women who are very hardworking and passionate and want to achieve things before settling. For example, Taylor Swift and Selena Gomez are both extremely rich by themselves (both have net worth 40 Mil plus). Both had a huge dating list. They haven’t married yet despite both being 30+. Same with lawyers, doctors and so on. These women may be good looking (I recently saw many good looking doctors, what’s up with that?) but they wont settle down young.
And yes, in casual dating women can get much higher quality of man than they themselves are.
@@ipercalisse579 Are you just looking for sex or a relationship?
Id never trust a man with this kind of beard and a christmas tree in in march
I don’t trust people that don’t know how film works
@@emilyearl1858😂
Having more sexual partners is not the same as having more sex. Someone with 1 sexual partner could have more sex than someone with 10 sexual partners.
Someone with one sexual partner could be having no sex.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 not true. Sexual partners are people who engage in sexual activity together. If you don’t engage in sexual activity, then you don’t have a sexual partner.
@@Apophis392
Many consider their spouse as their sexual partner
@@wyleecoyotee4252 well they’re correct if they have sex with that spouse.
Someone with many sexual partner couldn’t have very little sex 😂😊
Just think about it. If you had 50 guys, all are decently attractive in there own way, all of them telling you they love you, and all will have sex with you if you give them the chance. Just think about it, an attractive woman would have to value totally different things with these many options. She would have to test all of them, to narrow the numbers down. She knows for a fact not all of them love her, she knows for a fact some of these guys are lying. So honesty, trust and loyalty would probably be a huge attraction for them. Now imagine the opposite, if only 2 guys were giving some attention to a woman. The woman's options are barely any, so she has to offer more to just get them to stick around.
Spot on.
This is true. The most good looking women I’ve gone out with have major trust issues that actually make me unattractied to them in many cases.
YES!!! Exactly!!
Very well said!!!
@@docd2295 It's not our fault that we have trust issues. It's due to the mistrust we have suffered. Why don't you kindly take the time to understand and show her that she can trust you?
If you found an abused animal on the street, you would give it the patience and nurturing it needs to trust you... but not women?
@@Xianne027 I don’t think I would. I’d go get a different dog. I’ve never been cheated on or cheated. Nor had bad family upbringing in the aspect of trust (anger/disrespect, yes). I think it’s wise for people to try to get with someone who understands their background. I can’t relate to the trust issues, and I’m not a therapist. I’ve had women who can’t relate to my anger issues, and they’re not my therapist either. Some of each of those or other things is ok, but too much is too much. Regardless, only you can fix you. With the Lord’s help and that of professionals. I’d rather be with a 6 who can trust than a 9 who can’t. It’s not your fault but it’s not mine either.
Attractive women can pick and choose more,so they are probably having quality not quantity
Makes sense
I think many of those attractive women actually choose quantity. A big quantity of one way, half-relationships, followed by discarding.
I've started caring less about sex as I get into my 30s and it's relieved a lot of stress
Your testosterone levels are changing, depending on your lifestyle habits. It is probably going down, hence the lack of interest. I, and many of my physically active health conscious friends in their 40’s feel the opposite; it mimics tue sensation of late-college for most of my peers.
Good for you.
Check your testosterone.
When the prefrontal cortex finally matures in the late 20s, the hormones start to level out & the mind switches from short-term, emotional & hormonal decision-making to long-term, logical decision making. So it's really just that you've finally become a biologically mature adult.
Thanks all. I have check my T levels, they are slightly below norm. And frankly I wouldn't want higher levels. The absolute life distraction that comes with obsessing over females/sex is such a waste.
Loved this one, Chris. Gotta get him on here again
To be fair. The topic/question doesn't really match the answer. The question seems to be about amount of sex and it doesn't mean amount of partners. I think attractive women are more likely to find a spouse or stable fwb and they can be sexually active without having tons of different partners.
Good point. What if a less attractive woman can't keep her partner as easily. She may end up with more partners.
Really attractive women don't need to offer sex in the hope of enticing men into a relationship. They're hot enough for even high status men to want to 'settle down' anyway, even without a quick offer of sex. Therefore, because they're hot, hot women are more effective at extracting commitment and monogamy from men. And therefore, hot women usually achieve another monogamous relationship quickly after a previous one ends - ultimately meaning they typically have lower body counts than average or below average looking women, who resort more to the 'quickly offer sex in the hope of a relationship' route....
I was called smoking hot on my younger days and I would say that man made me feel that they where happy to hold the door for me just to take a close look or to get back a thank u and a smile. So I lived in my own skin u are treated in a very different way when u are considered very atractive. I got all kind of things for free, I didn't even had to ask, they just came to me. I'm much older now but still happening everytime my partner is not around. But now it only happening with man from 30.
@@catalinaahumada7367
And do you notice the same trend of more attractive women having fewer number of sexual partners?
Guys are often more afraid to approach hot women.
Maybe hot women get higher status and higher quality males which causes them to be more loyal and more likely to stay in the relationship.
Both can be reasons hot women have lower body counts.
That's the most logical comment that I have seen so far.
Good sex is more important than more sex.
No sex is better than bad sex
Both true, and sex doesn't have to mean appearance, that box is hidden no one sees it.
simple answer with analogy - very few people can handle or drive a Ferrari.
Like attracts like
From what I understand, people assume good looking people have a high count when average people are the biggest offenders.😂
Mate switching thing makes sense. My ex wife did this to her second husband. Honestly worked out great for her. Not sure how I should feel. At least it wasn't me😅
Yet :p
@@ez-g3090 read again … you lack comprehension lol
@@craigsaid I think Clinton boy was the first husband 😉
This is why you should steal wives, they can't cheat that would be illogical, women monkey branch and cheat on those who let them.
I'd like to see more research into "highly sexual women." Highly sexual women are women who (A) have a lot more sex, and (B) who self-report that sex is a key element of their life.
And I'd like to see more research that looks into ADHD/Dopamine, rather than just Testosterone/Estrogen. In my experience with highly sexual women, I think the common denominator that I observe, more than anything, is the presence of ADHD. I know a lot of ADHD women who are NOT ADHD, -- ADHD also coincides with hyposexuality (avoidance/disregard for sex.) But in almost all cases of hypersexuality in women, I've seen ADHD. (Then again, that could be because I am ADHD, and hyper-sexual women with ADHD relate more easily with me. I think that ADHD people generally have affinity towards other ADHD people.)
I'd like to see more evidence of people looking into this.
I like having a lot of sex does that mean I have ADHD
Temperament and endocrinology account for these things, not adhd. You're oversimplifying
@@tinononit8623 coomer
@Lion Kimbo The answer to your question/ stated observations and your resulting theory regarding the relationship between dopamine and hypERsexuality is this; the reason you’ve actually observed hypERsexuality in women with ADHD despite the fact that the condition is actually associated with hypOsexuality is actually a result that is caused by the medications used in order to treat ADHD.
Allow me to explain, 🤓🤪 so the reason that ADHD is associated with hypOsexuality is due to what the primary cause of attention deficit disorder is, which is low/ not enough dopamine present in the brain, which, and as I’m sure you are also well aware, when the brain doesn’t produce enough dopamine, and since dopamine is associated with reward/ motivation, focus and *pleasure, this is why/ how not having enough dopamine present in the brain is actually associated with hypOsexuality, i.e. your motivation to do things (including seeking and partaking in sex) is greatly diminished, and those activities don’t feel nearly as pleasurable to partake in.
So, this is why the condition of ADHD *untreated is associated with hypOsexulaity, while people with ADHD that are currently taking/ being treated for it with any of the widely available dopamine agonists commonly prescribed to treat ADHD, such as Aderall or Vyvanse etc. then they go from hypO- to hypERsexual since hypERsexuality is just one of many possible common side effects of taking a dopamine agonist, they also cause o e to have much less impulse control, causing many to participate in an increased amount of risk taking and pleasure seeking in general, such as gambling, sex and impulsively spending their money on things.
-Hope this helped to answer your questions/ theories regarding the relationship between dopamine and hypersexuality. ✌🏼😊
@@Phosphene_Dream I am both hypersexual (people give me a lot of flak saying this, because I am a man, and “what’s the difference between a man, and a hypersexual man?” but I would like to put that to the side, and just that it please be said) and I have intense ADHD.
Some things I have found is that ADHD shows up very different in people. I am an “idea” person so board games and ideas stimulate me. I have met ADHD people who find absolutely no stimulation in ideas though- they find stimulation in experiences. For example, motorcycle riding, or jumping out of airplanes.
I think that ADHD people have a strong and near constant need for stimulation, to get the dopamine levels to “normal.” Like you described.
But the things that stimulates people differ strongly person to person.
For ADHD people for whom sex is not stimulating, I think it is avoided- it is just more boring stuff to be avoided altogether. For ADHD people for whom sex IS stimulating, I think they become hypersexual.
As I discovered about ADHD - I came to realize that I was stimulated by ideas, puzzles, color, and sex. And this explained for me my hyper sexuality: sexuality is ALWAYS stimulating. ALWAYS interesting, and always keeps me awake. But I also have several close ADHD friends who are Hypo-sexual.
Incidentally, none of us have ever taken medication for our ADHD.
The sexual partners I have been closest to were ALSO ADHD, and also hypersexual. Sluts have always been my best friends and lovers. But I also have close ADHD female friends who are hypo-sexual as well. Who identify as Ace.
I think that ADHD people just tend to have more in common with each other than other people and more patience for ADHD things and masking methods and such. So I make ADHD friends.
The “danger” here data-wise is that I surround myself with ADHD people so I don’t have a good picture of hypersexuality outside of ADHD. That’s why I am making no definitive statements, and merely calling for further research here.
But I have definitely seen research out there linking both hyposexuality and hypersexuality with ADHD, and it makes total sense to me, both ways.
nothing beats doing it with your soulmate, anything else is just hormones...
“Using someone else’s body to masturbate” as Chris once put it
There is no such thing as "soulmate." Also your perspective is a female one. Most men can have the hottest and best sex with a very attractive woman they just met. Men dont need an emotional connection to enjoy sex. Come to think of it, not a lot of women these days need that either.
@@hv3115 I doubt it’s female, it’s common depending on your value system. I knew I met the one when felt a sense of us belonging together and with no one else, and it was mutual, but it does sound abstract when you haven’t experienced it. Casual sex is toxic to me, my dog can do it, I need my connection.
Perhaps I’ve never found that lifelong soulmate but without doubt some of the best sex in my life has been with very attractive women I’ve only recently met. They become soulmates while we’re making out.
Hi Chris, I highly appreciate the work you're doing on this channel. I'm glad this "dual strategy" of women finally has been refuted because it has always seemwd strange to me. It would be great if you could also shed some light on the differences between men amd women not only with respect to sex but also with respect to finding a long time romantic partner. As probably all women do I would very much like to know: How do men go about it? Thank you so much!
Without watching the video first I'll say that the most attractive ones actually don't have as much sex as the ones that are about 6-7 on the looks scale. And that's because they are too picky and therefore the potential number of men that tick all their boxes is much lower (and even the best looking men generally have no problem picking slightly less attractive ones, especially just for sex). But obviously, they still have it great in life compared to even decently above average men, not to mention average ones and below.
Amazing how people like this dude can make careers stating the obvious.
But he does it so eloquently.
Have a look at today's world. Common sense is anything but common these days. That's how.
Things that are common sense can also be mistaken. The expertise and range of information needed to scientifically report the exact same conclusions that "common sense" arrived at long ago, is much larger, required a lot more effort, and therefore carries more weight.
It’s all in the beard.
@@crimson6172 exactly. I mean, if you ask a woman in her 20's, what a woman is, she won't be able to answer you.
Attractive women usually find their partner fast, so they are out of the market.
No, because even very well-rounded, educated, good men act like complete fools around beautiful women. Beautiful women are on the receiving end of very odd social situations with men and women alike.
@@DanMulberry That's rude
why do we always have to compare? what if some people just enjoy it.
This makes a lot more sense to me.
Wife material women tend to be taken by like 23/24, then the ones that are still single in their 30s tend to be those who have less to offer - despite having the attitude of someone who's highly attractive.
They also tend to be the ones that talked endlessly of how they 'love sex' and date endlessly - always looking for the perfect thing, when really I think they're just aiming too high and get rejected by the men they sleep with when they ask for commitment...
this is why Christian college girls are so often married before they leave college.
@@Jointknight but the irony is that a lot of people looking to marry go to these colleges...I hear stories
@@nowyouseeme3402 I think most(?) do at that age, but at least they have a chance at something real. Non-traditional women, are just for the most part ruined. unless you get really, really really lucky and find some paragon of virtue. But good luck at that. Like some 'out of africa' encounter where the woman went to go on a mission.
but wifeable women usually aren't in regular college.
Also to be said that
We tend to want to marry the people that were sexually attracted to that aren't good for long term relationships, but the long term relationship people aren't "sexually attractive/fun" enough to commit to.
Were caught in a childish spiral where we put what we want (sex lust violence fun) ahead of needs (respect, Communication, competent leadership, true consideration).
It's fked
And how many of them stay married ? I wish people could use actual data to make actual conclusions.
When you're attractive you are more selective, therefor less to chose from. Because you have high standards
why are alot of h0es and girls with high mileage h0t tho? it is isn't as clear cut as that, hot chicks are usually ran thru then settle down, uglier girls don't get as much attention
Finally someone spoke the truth... unattractive women =had more sexual partners.
100% I've been saying this for years. I'm considered very attractive so I've been told thousands of times and I'm very selective. And don't let guys touch me unless he marries me
@@bertbrowm4488 good for you.
Remember the old theory that the prettiest/hottest girls had fewer dates (if any) because all guys just assume she is out of their league (which may be true) and would turn them down, or she is already spoken for and/or heavily booked with dates well into the next decade?
Does that old theory (still) hold up today, in some form or another?
If I had to guess I'd say not relevant anymore, because they have the hottest guys locally but also the hottest guys from afar sliding into their dm's too. Whereas it used to be just the hottest local guys who would have the confidence to approach gorgeous women
@@billytheripper4
Ahh yes, of course. The anonymity of the internet gives even the most insecure shy guy the nerve to approach the most gorgeous of women, regardless of any presupposition as to her status or availability - with their male egos mostly left intact even if rejected. Not like IRL where a guy must endure the "walk of shame" from a table of women back to his buddies at the table clear across the room, after being thoroughly rejected.
So I guess even hot girls are getting laid pretty frequently, more than before anyway, lol.
IMO and experience - yes. It’s still relevant. The comment below is nonsense. The rule still applies for social media.
No, a few drinks on board and men will flock
@@patrickdoyle9304
Yeah, I guess times have changed and insecurities have gone to the wayside... guys don't even need the booze ; they've acquired all kinds of ego and arrogant "charisma" from all PUA gurus and other macho dipshits.
Wouldn‘t this be more of a narcissistic subtype of women, who are prone to mate switching? It seems highly narcissistic to switch mates rather than ending a relationship before looking for a new one. It seems to me much more like a symptom of a highly psychotic society, as stated by Sam Vaknin.
Hypergamy
Haven’t watched the video but I know it’s a NO. Why sleep with just anyone when these particular women are aiming for something better and they know they can use their looks to draw in anyone. They will eventually say yes to the right man!
What is an extremely attractive woman to begin with? And are we talking about college age females, 40 year-old women, post-menopausal women? These type of questions sound like pipe dream questions. Women’s sexual behaviour will have a lot more to do with her life experiences and environment than what she looks like physically.
Models; any age affluent. Being better looking is condition,raw natural physical appearance is only in children. In no way would a high level fashion model look as good as they do without alot of care.
Most people are less unique than they are led to believe. We're all biological animals first, human beings second when we're born. We can flip that, of course, but that's after knowing which are our biological motivators. Evolutionary Psychology is extremely important in that sense because we're not a 'blank' canvass when we're born as the posmodern world would insist that we are.
I wonder, have studies been done to determine if attractive women are actually more fertile? Because isn’t attractiveness in women supposed to be indicative of fertility and/or health (waist-to-hip ratio, etc.) So do the most attractive women get pregnant more easily? Have more babies? Have healthier babies?
I don't think so the most ugly women has the most babies in my circles but yes their babies are not good looking
No. They probably settled down with the man they wanted early on and therefore stopped dating. So why would they have more sexual partners? They wouldn't. From my observations its ussually the average looking women with the highest number of sexual partners
What is considered a high number from a woman? I think there is a disconnect between what women think vs men.
It's probably because if a woman is really attractive many men assume she will be arrogant and assume she will reject them in a nasty way if they approach her and she thinks he is not very attractive and humiliate him and treat him as if he is beneath her
Are you speaking from experience,
You do hear this sort of thing a lot from both men & women. Women constantly talk shit about beautiful women and older men tell younger men to stay a way from beautiful women because they have huge egos and look down on everyone.
Honestly you'd get the same response from women who are mid and below. Too many women overrate themselves.
Attractive women really treat men badly. As a women i saw this many times in Highschool and now in corporate world
love this chat. HUGE to realise the dual-mating theory was retracted in favour of the mate-switching theory. makes so much more sense.
shame about alex's unattractive lighting! ;P
My female friends who are upwards of 7/8 out of 10 in attractiveness can count their sexual partners on one hand and still have a finger or two spare.
Fascinating.
Are you sure about that?
@@barryepsteins4984 it makes sense if you actually use your brain
i don’t trust a woman to rate female attractiveness…y’all give each other 10s lmao
They are pure capping 🧢🧢🧢🧢🙈
Take the number of partners a woman says she's had and multiply by three. Take the number of sexual partners a man says he's had and divide by three. No idea what you do with these kids who claim to have fluid genders and use all pronouns. 😮
Being more attractive doesn't mean long lasting relationships. Means more work. More distrust.
i knew this all the time and and its mentioned immediately on here
Its obviously average looking ones that are going to have the most partners for obvious reasons
Attractive ones are pickier and ugly ones are easier but not attractive enough to have too many options
I’ve been told I’m super cute, pretty, gorgeous, beautiful and sometimes hot when I dress up for a night out. Yet I dress like a girl next door very laid back and no makeup just tinted lip balm daily lol….one reason is because i don’t want the stereotype that all I have to offer is my looks and the other is that’s just my personality I am low maintenance and laid back lazy with my everyday looks. I have a 4.0 GPA lol and I get hit on a lot but I’m picky! I rather find a guy who likes me for my brain and personality and not my looks solely if that makes sense.
I relate, especially to the last sentence. I don’t put much effort into my looks.
@advancedapathy chief, I see you’re tryna be helpful but you honestly come off as condescending and ignorant, and a bit tone deaf too. Being here on this channel, you think we haven’t heard a dozen variations of this wall of text before? It really seems like you’re projecting your own motivations and mentality into your “advice” for what you think women should do.
Have you considered that we don’t want shallow men who don’t respect us for who we are as people? I do not want a partner who primarily values me for my looks, for my body, for my fleeting physicality. In addition to being insulting and disrespectful, it’s also simply a senseless strategy; aging will come, and we won’t be young and beautiful anymore, so then what? Have a partner who will replace us like a rusty appliance and run off and leave for the 18 year old intern, because he only wanted that one thing?
May as well stay on the sidelines rather than play a game you’re destined to lose either way. I can’t speak for OP, but me personally, I decided a while ago that I’d rather just not date men than settle for fake love. I’m willing to completely forgo opposite-sex intimacy if it will not provide the companionship that I seek from a relationship.
What you speak of is optimizing for quantity rather than quality, which is absolutely worthless; OP presumably wants a monogamous relationship, not a harem. She is better served by getting that one rare unicorn (apparently) of a man who does value her personality and brains, rather than attracting a solar system of simps and orbiters who seek a piece of meat.
Moreover, this logic that something isn’t valuable in a partner if it can be gleaned from somewhere else makes no sense. A relationship is different interaction and engagement. Hell, an entire industry exists solely for men to satisfy this “huge void” in their lives, which at least undermines the point you are trying to make. And now that, in the developed world, women can make our own money, we literally have no need for a man - however there isn’t mass female celibacy, because connection and intimacy are their own goods. Looking at relationships through such a transactional lens is honestly beyond me.
As for “every man likes to feel like he’s the smartest person in the room”, one, I highly doubt that because that’s both impossible and impractical; the fucking janitor at MIT is under no delusions that he’s the biggest brain out of all the students and staff, and actual smart people recommend against being the smartest person in the room, because that leaves no space to learn. Either way, it’s not on women to shrink ourselves to accommodate men’s fragile egos, and a lifetime of that sounds like torment rather than partnership.
Haha there is so many women in this comment section saying: “I’m a 10/10 incel.” Lol somebody is lying here.
@advancedapathy She is not here to offer anything to you or other men. She will develop her personality as she likes and the men will adapt to her preferences.
@@rf-uj5sc Exactly! If she can get a 10 without wearing makeup and teetering around on heels, more power to her.
Becky has to use her body more often to compete with Stacy.
It is not about look it is about morals and self value.
no silly, just because you like that doesnt mean the over-whelming majority does. I think you are trying to convince others to be like that
If they want then yeah. That's my opinion.
Nope attractive women know their (high) value, they don’t give it away for free to men who can’t or won’t offer them what they want - security, faithfulness, love, stability, finical security, family etc etc. This is why you always see v attractive young Russian women married to older men (I don’t mean in their 70’s but usually a women in their late 20’s or v early 30’s with a guy in their mid/late 40’s) and they have young children/babies and no need to work. Always saw this type on holiday before Europe kicked out the Russians. Russian women are excellent at knowing their worth and ruthless in pursuit of the right partner.
Because Russian society/culture is a rough place and breeds tough people, the women are smart.
Yes, Russian and slavic women are cold, calculating materialistic gold-diggers. They don't tolerate weak or broke men. They haven't had the luxury to wallow in romantic fairy-tales. They have had to be realistic if they wanted to survive and thrive. They understand relationships and marriage are transactional and cannot be built on the quicksand of romantic love.
The issue is, women that have more knots in their bedsheets, they become less attractive with every knot. I’m still amazed how some women don’t protect their numbers, it effectively ruins them.
Not really. This is just a male myth. Males say they want pure woemn but actually males are legit obsessed with promiscuous women.
Instinctually they do know. That is why attractive women have lower body count because they know they got much more to lose compared to if they're not attractive.
I don’t know if I can trust his intellectual credibility. The man still has his Xmas tree up… We are more than halfway through March.
Perhaps it’s an Easter tree?
@@sirrathersplendid4825 Oh yes, how could I have overlooked the Easter tree… and to think I called myself a Christian 🤣🤣
Sometimes things are filmed and then posted way later.
Logically speaking, an average woman in the middle of the attractiveness scale is open to the idea of sleeping with those both up and down on the scale with respect to her position on the scale. She can sleep around with attractive men above her grade, average men, and even below average men if she so desires. On the other hand, usually, an attractive woman that's high on the scale is highly unlikely to sleep with average guys... and below average guys are simply out of the picture.
Women don't need to be promiscuous because it's not needed, evolutionarily speaking. A woman can have only one child a year. Then she gotta protect and raise the child for two decades (preferably with the same partner she had the child with) while also having a few more children (preferably with the same partner or there would be conflicts). Men, on the other hand, can have way-way more children if they so desire (Genghis Khan had thousands of children). That's why polygamy used to be a thing in the past because it was a viable option and actively encouraged by societies. As a result of this, men tend to be more promiscuous and hornier in general. A man gotta spread his seed, you know :P
To make things worse, a man can stay fertile for decades. Even old grandpas can have kids (certainly not with grandmas lol).
In short, evolution is unfair to women as it wants them to have as few partners as possible (ideally one). However, evolution is even more unfair to men because it keeps us horny all the time and wants us to mate with as many women as possible (ideally all the time with all sorts of women). What a dilemma you have created, evolution. How will a woman find that one loyal man she is looking for when men are genetically programmed to "spread" the seeds. There's inevitably going to be cheating. That's what we have got on our hands, folks. A cheating pandemic. Now, even women have started cheating and sleeping around, empowered by the cutting-edge technology of birth control.
They don’t need to, they get validated 1,000 times a day anyway.
Duh! Women are hypergamous and hence go for the highest status guys. The prettiest women can get high status guys to commit, they don’t need to sleep around.
The new bond villain really seems to know a lot about women
The most attractive women aren’t approached the same, men dont think they have a shot so they settle for an more likely successful target. Unless the woman pursues the man (which is unnatural) then the men pass up the most attractive.
This could be true but is a gem cause I therefore o only aim at the top, and have near failed
Attractive women already knows that everyone wants to sleep with them, you know you’re wanted, you don’t need to prove it, and it also makes you more selective cause you can
I think it depends on s3x drive and what is available out there. If a woman has a high libido, she will obviously have more s3x. That is why even older women like Madonna are still thi*rsty. And then it also depends on what is available. In general, an attractive guy might not be good in pleasing a woman. And there are ofcourse other factors (his intelligence, his status, his money) which women consider before entering a long term relationship.
Also it depends on how driven the woman is. There are women who are very hardworking and passionate and want to achieve things before settling. For example, Taylor Swift and Selena Gomez are both extremely rich by themselves (both have net worth 400 Mil plus). Both had a huge dating list. They haven’t married yet despite both being 30+. Same with lawyers, doctors and so on. These women may be good looking (I recently saw many good looking doctors, what’s up with that?) but they wont settle down young.
@@manifest2203 those are really good points, I agree that a driven woman will always achieve first no matter her looks. With the high libido, I do know the research have backed up the existence of such women but I think overall, women’s libidos lose out to men, not to mention the hormone fluctuations throughout the month can make that inconsistent.
@@bluetears2 agree that men are always more th*rsty than women. The point is for men it is a different kind of th*rst than women (even women with high libidos). And yes the hormone fluctuations play a part too.
@@manifest2203 interesting, how is the th*rst different? Is it hard to ignore, cause as I woman even if I’m feeling it, I can just turn it off if I want too.
I’m a woman and🧐I concur with these findings.🤪
This definitely explained my last relationship. Ouch.
I have been very beautiful in my teen and young adult years. The amount of bullying and attention from both men and woman is hard to describe, and to be honest quite toxic. Usually I was always one that have been dumped in romantic relationships. I have been very carefull when picking men.
Yup, being attractive like the word itself, can only attract, maintaining a relationship is an entirely different game, that's why it doesn't matter if you're ugly or hot, if you have a good relationship you win.
I think they are so focused on looks that’s there primary obsession.
“Women are not that promiscuous” This is a real truth . Women want a SERIOUS man to be loyal to her ONLY and his children …. If men like to be USED then get yourself a young female .
Thank you I'll do that
Excellent, makes a lot of experience make a lot more sense.
I'm curious why someone would want to ask this question in the first place. What's the benefit or the outcome?
Many hard up men could simply aim higher and see results.
I only go for top top tier females, Ive know a couple lower and they were big problems.
@@elasticharmony Top-tier. Yeah, those lower ones are horrible. Lower people are disgusting, top-tier only.
I think the issue is, a lot of people treat this as if it’s intrinsic to women. Women are very reactionary.
Attractive women do know that they have a lot of options. They hold out sexually for a man with a lot of resources because they know the value of youthfulness and beauty. But this is simply a reaction to men throwing themselves at these women and being willing to offer sexual exclusivity and monogamy to them.
Most men are holding out for a beautiful woman. The Halo Effect gives them the impression the women with the best character and happiest are the most attractive. So they offer their resources to the prettiest women (including marriage offers) and test out the average looking women.
The average looking women are forced to compete for whatever those men offer them. Even below average looking men still prefer the best looking women, and may have sex with average women while reserving marriage and family for the beautiful women.
I see it everyday. Men all prefer beautiful women. And in a world where that is the case, most women won’t fit into that category and will do anything to find the best deal possible.
WHAT A LOAD OF BULL CRAP. LOL
DNA testing supports the dual mate hypothesis. And is why paternity testing should be mandatory at birth.
That's the scientific term for "alpha fucks beta bucks"?
In France it is banned - it would destroy their society.
Not really, according to what is said it the video. According to the new theory that holds in the real world, they cheat because they actually want the new partner for a long term relationship. But as they are unable to get him, they stay with the current guy for security.
@@Leonhart_93 but mandatory paternity test should be a thing regardless right?
There was a recent meta-analysis that has thrown the dual mating hypothesis into dispute. However, it’s not entirely invalid. I think the mate switching hypothesis seems to be a viable option.
My experience (clearly anecdotal only based on my social group) has been that there is little or no correlation between a woman's beauty and how interested she is in sex once in a relationship, or how good she is in bed. In fact, beautiful women tend to be not very good in bed, whereas less beautiful women seem to be more interested in sex and better at it too. In discussions with my buddies we hypothesised that good looking women have never had to try very hard and life as a target for men has put them off sex. Less attractive women have to work a bit harder so that they are much better in bed and their libido is generally higher. It isn't clear whether this was deliberate or subconscious behavior.
Very interesting. I married my first love (who I met in high school) x27 years now. My sister, who is super attractive, divorced x15 years, still single + frustrated with the male mating pool- is neither promiscuous (definition "insert" please) or celebate...maybe more "causal" at best. Perhaps there is a lot more nuance than one might believe when asking the questions is there a relationship between attractiveness and sexual partners for women and what predicts promiscuity in relationships??? A riddle of sorts that may never get answered...
There are way too many variables. For example, i bet you’re the older sibling, likely more mature. The attention you got from your parents matter. Also, if she’s beautiful, she has to deal with more crazy men as well, even if monogamous. List goes on and on
he is your soulmate ????
You’re attractive
christ, women never fail to make a general observation specifically about themselves....
Unless a beautiful woman is sleeping for financial gain or as a sex worker typically the prettiest women don’t tend to sleep around there’s no point,
My wife and partner of 26 years is hot hot hot! I've been with her since she was 16. ❤
so drink spiking works well
I don't know why I'm watching this when the subject makes me so sensitive. Though I do think it's a bit funny he mentions Leonardo DiCaprio... his dating pattern is quite stark and delineated
@Sarah that's an interesting theory about a non disclosure. We will never know!
This dude has the 1990s Christmas background setting on
I am agree. I thought I am beautiful and attractive woman but less sex with man. Because I look for a good man, if I do not find one. That is fine. I want to what I am looking for.
All these videos talk about is physical looks…I’m a 7-8 depending on who you ask and I can get first dates all day long but cannot get a woman to stay long term. And none of my exes criticize my character, they simply don’t like me enough to marry. We need more research and content on what makes women commit.
If you're that attractive you can easily have wife I barely see any attractive man to marry most of the men are ugly
Definitely stability & maturity. That was my problem when I was a bit younger but now as I have established myself a bit better they been flocking and stuck to me I can’t shake em off.
Have you ever been outside? Is water wet?
I don't how this is gonna land, and I am not going to explain myself very much because I just don't see this crowd of gigachads and dudebros as being able to see my point but I think there is subtle undertone of woman hating to all this. Call it a feeling.
I get it.
I get it.
I agree with you. It's like these men hate us.
@@jz372 Lol, hate? How? Isn't this just the reality of the dating scene?
David Buss didn't necessarily retract his original dual mate theory. Things simply evolved. Based on the data at the time and how women have acted historically, he was right then and he's right now as well because dating culture has changed significantly.
Men have a lot of complex when approaching attractive women, you suppose they try more with them, they dont. Especially those who seek serious commitment, they presume that the more one is attractive the more she wouldnt be interested in them. Attractive women do attract mostly the attention of the nasty type of men, and it is A LOT of sexual harrassment and sexist comments so they are just good for the game, and they get played a lot. It is so disheartening at one point that an attractive woman may think she attracts what she deserves, because she gets only scums, questioning her self-worth. And im not talking about the "bitch" type of attractive women, but the ones who are also lets say beautiful inside, sensitive, intelligent. I happen to be one of those, maybe not a supermodel, but i know what im talking about, i cant put myself on any apps because the messages i get are tons and quite miserable, and ive been also stalked in the past, the risk is too high. Also although im still young and look young im not 20 anymore. I dont have a partner, and i long for one, but im more and more discouraged. Sorry for the English, im from Italy.
Also, an attractive spouse (male or female) is more likely to cheat.
Women want romance...they want to fall for a Man,to be seduced,to admire Him.They want for Him to choose Her,eventhough He has many Woman pursuing Him.She want to be special to Him.The deep connection they crave.
@@macmcleod1188 Ahh yes. I know this too, not because i ever cheated, not at all, but ive experienced some men getting strange all of a sudden, when randomly mentioning a friend of mine. I couldnt understand why all grumpy so suddenly, then i realised: jealousy. Oh my gosh
@@ipercalisse579 I would give the apps a shot again, don't be hesitant to immediately unmatch men who send messages you don't like. That's what the feature is there for. I don't want to disregard your stalking experience, I'm sorry you went through that, but try not to let that put you off them. I know that's easier for me to say as a guy. I guess removing certain personal info off your profile could be a precaution you could use. I have my own issues with the apps though, I can only really get matches in a nearby city an hour away. The distance makes a relationship more difficult I think, I would rather meet someone in my local town, in person.
Go to the gym n work 2 jobs you’ll get a women fast
Attractiveness is subjective though so these discussions are giving high school boys lockeroom . Lots of “hot” ppl don’t know they are hot. Lots of “ medium” people don’t know they are medium. Who determines what’s very attractive and medium attractive.
But I am sure I am not a good looking women. No doubt
@@ratnakordosshu6291 someone may differ. Just because you think it doesn’t mean it’s true for everyone. You may think you are not attractive but someone else can find you attractive. I have had many examples and situations in my own life where people say that person is gorgeous but I don’t see it or I think someone is attractive and someone else doesn’t see it.
@@tanyamilewski5700 That is true, even if i consider myself a unattractive women still actually high quality men find me attractive!!! But i am not a swimsuit type lady, so i am not always surrounded my 200 men, but that is Ok, some people find me attractive some not, at the being born as a beautiful is not someone's quality, being good at other area as a human is most important, because those we achieve slowly and hard work for that.
in my culture i find pretty(sexy) women actually kind of little bit stupid. because whose 2 percent women get everything for free, other 98% women actually work hard, and that is matter.
but i don't understand why this Chris Williamson guy always so curious about MEN-SEX-WOMEN-SINGLEHOOD-SEXY WOMEN , this kind of topic, if you follow him 3 days you can find out. strange.....
Thank you. I pretty much wasted 10 minutes of my life. But based on the claims of the study, I assume that a very attractive woman must be blonde, with blue eyes, slim and tall.
My ex-bf used to say the less attractive fat girls he dated 'tried harder' for him. Lol
Sounds like you didn't try very hard at all.
@Johnny Bombardak
Just another of his gaslighting attempts.
I'm thin, in shape, and attractive.
Not a day went by that he didn't compare me to an ex-gf.
@@wyleecoyotee4252should we call you lucky for dating a shallow man ?
@@lollmao249
No. That thankfully ended about 7 years ago.
ONe of mens mating strategies is to lower womens self esteems. Once you notice it, its pretty easy to filter them out.
In my life experience, women that were roughly 6/10 came off as having the most partners. Many of the most beautiful women were extremely cautious and single for a great deal of time.
The husband and I have both had only one partner. Married at 26/29 and we do have lots of sex. We are both average looking now that we are middle aged- not sure what we were when we were you. Seriously, y’all. Try religion. At least you won’t be as likely to get an std- partner or not. Even if you’re incel, you can find meaning and hope in Jesus.
Believing in a magic dead guy who frowns upon the sex I have prior to marriage sounds like one of the worst methods of getting laid I've heard of.
Yes when I was first learning to Joff Jesus was there he helped.
Quality over Quantity, always.
Very interesting! I never found the dual mating strategy convincing. Felt incredibly risky and just out of line with normal female psychology.
I think one reason it has stuck around is because it makes sense to men/is in line with their sexuality. As this guy says, it would apply to women with very high socio-sexuality. Guess who has high sociology-sexuality? Men. I think it’s a form of projection.
I agree that women using short term sexual experiences to fine long term partners if they’re unsatisfied feels much more correct and in line with how women think.
Nope, it's stuck because in the manosphere is was always extrapolated or understood by terms of the the new understanding of the researchers. We really don't think that most women are consciously think "I will have sex and get pregnant by Chad or this millionaire, that find a simp to help me raise the child of the Chad/Alpha."
In the manosphere it was always understood as all women are attracted to the same top 10-20% of men, this men's will fuck will almost all women that present themselves to them, dozens, hundred and some even thousands women. They never will marry any of them, or at best only one. It's very unlike the none of those women rejected for relationships wouldn't get pregnant by this high status males. At that point to not face the Herculean task of motherhood alone they look for a backup, a lower status male that will subject himself to create another men offspring in favor of access to the sexuality of a woman. Also when the situation they are describing of a woman not as satisfied with the current relationship trying to monkey branch, a lot of times they get pregnant the affair partner doesn't want anything to do with them. And given the choice of blowing up the relationship and becoming a single mother and committing paternity fraud cuckolding the current partner. A literal dual mating strategy, get pregnant with one pass the children as from other so they will take the responsibility.
In resume, it's not projection we understand women are different and act differently them men in their sexual choice. The thing is the "dual mating strategy" it's the consequences of a unregulated sexual market place when all men not only pursue but have sex with the same high status males. It's the only option left for women that got pregnant from those men and failed to secure a relationship.
Then they become damaged goods by age 30 and now NO guy wants her longer than the weekend.
The research seems to indicate that attractive women are less promiscuous than others, which lines up with evolutionary theories.
Thanks, @life-is-here
I can’t take this guest seriously given his look and his chaotic background at what looks like his grandma’s house. Oh, and also that he doesn’t say anything interesting or surprising at all… 😅
Some do.
I would call myself attractive (yeah I know it sounds douchey) and I have been involuntarily celibate for long periods of time.
I wouldnt brag with the second part
Cap
@@dwwdaddadwad9859 lady neckbeard vibes going on with this one
Try talking to attractive men in a friendly way. Easy fix tbh.
@@dwwdaddadwad9859 I'm not.
The answer is ABSOLUTELY NOT .
Amazing how a man claiming to know women’s preferences in men sports that beard 😂
He’s an expert in psychology not fashion :)
@@aikighost ah I see that the meaning of my comment escapes you 😆😄
@@sm4185 enlighten me.
I’m married , a wife, ❤a mother and professional .
I think it’s not “ quite right “ that men think oh I can go out and have lots of sex “ it’s my biology “
And then people comment that a young woman must be pious and chaste only ever wanting her husband .
Look at the biology of women it’s doesn’t exactly line up
Of course you want to protect yourself eg rape , unwanted pregnancy etc that’s common sense
But what about very fertile woman , we know that we act differently when we ovulate etc we have a period when our clocks are ticking etc
What about women with strong drives ?
( I realize as humans we can restrict , both men and women , to avoid the negative side effects of sex eg STD , unwanted pregnancy , hurt , Jealousy etc ) but just saying, let’s be real
Women are the gate keepers of sex and culture. If women are promiscuous with just the top 5% of men and the rest have no chance of obtaining sex (family) then their drive to achieve withers up. Since that has been happening more and more, especially with the advent of hook up apps you are starting to see men completely check out. When that cycle hits maturity you can guarantee the death of that society. Men will no longer uphold the infrastructure. You will see far more loneliness for both parties. The downstream effects of this will mean you will no longer have spiritual, materialistic and metaphysical well being, especially the longer this goes on.
No, men can not have "lots of sex" that's only the small pareto distribution of men. All men want to have lots, but frankly that's not what is happening. So what does that mean? Women need to gate keep men and pick. Women need to reinforce that through cultural shame if you cross the line. Right now the inverse is true and everything has fallen to shit with each generation since the Boomers started the Third Turning. We seen this happen many times, but only so drastically in Rome where they had a natural birth control. Both sexes need to be duty bound but there was a movement for one to not be. Now it's gotten so bad the other will join. We are now in the Fourth Turning. I don't think many people understand the scale of the problem from small scale to global scale. If you want to see what I mean watch the first part of Birth Gap here on YT.
Never compare men to women , a man emits a woman receives, those cells never leave they are embedded in the womb , women who have sex are scared women they are polluted women, should men thus enjoy other men, because that is what that kind equality means.
Remember these are just averages lol. I know a good handful of higher than average attractive women who have a lot of sexual partners. Maybe he mean 9s and 10s. But I also know 9s and 10s who have struggled and have had a decent amount of partners. I wonder if researchers are just asking women how many men have you slept with which we know everyone lies about their body count. Just at a lot of celebrity women who are really attractive and have the most exposure to the most powerful dudes. It seems like a lot of them have a good time
Not everyone feels the need to lie. I hate that assumption that the manosphere keeps making. If I knew someone well enough, I'd tell them just about anything. Otherwise, I would say "That's too personal."
What is considered a high body count for a single woman at 30?
@michaelw.8260 I think it is based on culture and numbers. 100 years ago maybe having 3 sexual partners would be considered slutty because people were marrying one person and society had different ideals. Today, if someone had 10 or more by 30 idk it would make me uncomfortable
@@miaranee That's exactly what I was thinking. However, I have a hard time believing any woman that has been single through her 20s would be honest about the number. That's my hang up and I have a hard time letting that believe go. Thanks for your response.
... and yet the narrative that is taught is so much different... I am guessing (shock horror) that some people are gaming the system for personal (ideological) benefit..
This is so frustrating for people like me who have worked to get mentally emotionally and physically well and leveled up in every area of life to get repeatedly rejected over and over for people who are clearly low value in every way- i’ll just keep being my awesome self and if nobody wants that i’ll just keep it moving 😊😊
Yeah man... Same... Just remember, we aren't deserving or entitled to what we ideally want. Just keep leveling up, and stay away from unwanted energy.
@@WeaponryFitness22 I don’t think its too much to think we deserve a happy healthy relationship but i get your point
Very good looking women spend most of their time rejecting attention. The others try to get it. And meet a lot of tw@!s on the way.