This is MY definitive way to play FINAL FANTASY VII (Modding Tutorial)

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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Комментарии • 136

  • @DragonDreamVNY
    @DragonDreamVNY 9 месяцев назад +25

    Steam Deck users, make sure to check out 7th Deck ❤ 🎉

    • @Station9.75
      @Station9.75 7 месяцев назад

      Does 7th Deck allow all the same mods?

    • @Only_Some
      @Only_Some 7 месяцев назад

      threre are a total of 76 or so mods on the net.. all mod mngers work the same@@Station9.75

    • @davidlevendosky6172
      @davidlevendosky6172 Месяц назад

      question, and hopefully you get this. If i were to play the game on my pc and use the 7th heaven mods, and then at night go play my steam deck, is it possible to just continue the save through steam cloud without the mods, and then when i continue on pc i can just run them with the mods? just curious as to options. i will most likey try to do the 7th deck i just want to know if thats possible

  • @awgabe
    @awgabe 6 месяцев назад

    every time i open up this pack of mods, i get a yellow border that indicates something is capturing my screen. Anyone else had this problem?

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  6 месяцев назад

      What pack of mods?

  • @JamesBrown-xb7yi
    @JamesBrown-xb7yi 6 месяцев назад +2

    Can u show us more gameplay battle gameplay

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  6 месяцев назад

      I have a playlist of the full play through of the game on my channel

    • @JamesBrown-xb7yi
      @JamesBrown-xb7yi 6 месяцев назад

      @@OtenP_ oo I'll check that out

  • @Elgar337
    @Elgar337 8 месяцев назад +3

    Man, you shouldn't begin such a video with a spoiler. Most people come here to see how to mod the game to play it for the first time. Other than that, great stuff.

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  8 месяцев назад +1

      You’re right, wasn’t thinking much about it honestly. I’ll do better next time 👍🏼
      Appreciate the feedback!

  • @ImTheKingOfHyrule
    @ImTheKingOfHyrule 5 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you very much for explaining the bit about installing the canary builds for 7th Heaven and FFNx! I couldn't get the sound effects and voices to work for like an hour but I followed your instructions and now everything is working great!

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  5 месяцев назад +1

      That's awesome! I'm glad it helped you out and thanks for sharing! Hope you enjoy your play through

  • @solomani5959
    @solomani5959 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you. Order doesn’t matter?

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  6 месяцев назад +1

      It does for certain mods, I suggest using the auto sort

    • @solomani5959
      @solomani5959 6 месяцев назад

      @@OtenP_ ty

  • @wren7195
    @wren7195 Год назад +7

    Thank you my friend, a great pleasure for a computer noob like me to stumble across such a detailed tutorial for something I've been dying to try. Would subscribe again if I could! :D Thanks again

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  Год назад +2

      Appreciate you very much! Glad I can help, also this was my first time doing any kind of tutorial but your feedback is much appreciated really!

  • @djz3r063
    @djz3r063 5 месяцев назад +1

    I have everything set correctly, but it asks to insert disk 1 2 or 3 it doesn't auto mount, any ideas?

    • @Harry6ol
      @Harry6ol 5 месяцев назад

      same thing happened to me all i had to do was run 7th heaven as administrator

  • @HumbleRose-rg3qp
    @HumbleRose-rg3qp 2 месяца назад

    ok ok. hi. what is a mod, that will fix the Park area, where Aerith and Cloud go after leaving her house? the one with the slide at the start of the game? that area looks messed for me.

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  2 месяца назад

      @@HumbleRose-rg3qp what texture mods are you using? You might have them in the wrong order

  • @bakedaf843
    @bakedaf843 Год назад +2

    I’ve done everything and whenever i try to launch the game it says i have a “standard install” and not a “maximum install” do you know anything about this or how to fix it?

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  Год назад +1

      I’ve never heard or seen that before, that’s odd. What build is your 7th heaven manager? Only thing I can suggest is to completely uninstall the manager and reinstall final fantasy 7 on steam and try again

    • @bakedaf843
      @bakedaf843 Год назад

      I did that and its working great now only problem im having is the music is stuck on the midi sounfont, music mods dont work and i cant even get it to use the original soundtrack. Any ideas? Thanks for the help!@@OtenP_

    • @weisskitsune
      @weisskitsune Год назад

      Do you launch the game from 7th Heaven or from steam directly? If you launch from steam it will always be the normal version of FFVII and not the one with the mods (so you need to launch it from 7th Heaven directly).

  • @tasselhoff1293
    @tasselhoff1293 6 месяцев назад +4

    I watched this about 3 times last night. Im horrible with computers and really wanted to play this MOD. You explained this perfectly! I have the mods installed, FF7 looks amazing now! Feels like a brand new game almost. Ty sooo much for the careful and thorough explanation on how to do this.

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you very much for the kind words and feedback, really do appreciate that thank you. I’m very glad you got to get this working and experience the closest thing to a remaster for final fantasy 7. I’ll always cover updates for all this stuff in the future because I’m sure there is much more mods to come. Again, thank you🙏🏼

  • @rtc7788
    @rtc7788 3 месяца назад

    0:08 wtf that looks like trash

  • @s1lent_gr
    @s1lent_gr 7 дней назад

    Sorry but it detects 7th Heaven exe as malicious so watch up?

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  7 дней назад

      @@s1lent_gr actually I just looked it up and it says it’s best to download it from GitHub

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  7 дней назад

      @@s1lent_gr steamcommunity.com/app/39140/discussions/0/4203616172202903037/

  • @Diettaka
    @Diettaka 2 месяца назад

    I am struggling with the game being very Glitchy even with just playing from the 7th Heaven App, is a new install needed or any suggestions? it's mostly screen tearing stuff.

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  2 месяца назад

      @@Diettaka I haven’t really messed around with these mods in awhile so not sure if there was an update or something. I would suggest to check your settings, vsync might help, make sure your resolution is the same as the monitor your using, also mess around with the FPS, adjusting that might fix it

    • @Diettaka
      @Diettaka 2 месяца назад

      @@OtenP_ I appreciate it, I may just do a fresh install and I uncovered some things about direct X12 with AMD products.

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  2 месяца назад

      @@Diettaka awesome! Yeah there’s for sure ways to fix the tearing. Not to familiar with AMD but I know a lot of people who run this game beautifully on it

  • @mikezigma
    @mikezigma 2 месяца назад

    well i guess i said a no no word in my last comment. anyway, i have no idea what im doing with modding. i can see a bunch of mods to choose from and download except for when i do they dont actually download theres a list of qued up things i didnt even pick but whatever i figured that was part of it. either way nothing is downloading just says starting. I am desperately trying to follow along but i cant even seem to get started i dont know how i got as far as i did

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  2 месяца назад +1

      @@mikezigma is 7th heaven up to date? Also there’s a refresh button on the main mod list, after you download them try refreshing see if they appear in the downloaded section

    • @mikezigma
      @mikezigma 2 месяца назад

      @@OtenP_ yeah it just needed a refresh i guess idk what all that stuff was maybe it just glitched out. anyway its workin now. thanks for checkin in

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  2 месяца назад

      @@mikezigma awesome! Yeah the mod manager can be a bit glitchy at times, glad you got it though 👍🏼

  • @Digital-Cajun
    @Digital-Cajun 16 дней назад

    I'm looking for info about ow to fix the issue with everything being in slow motion during dialogue scenes. I'm modded through 7th Heaven, of course, and this is the one issue that I cannot fix. I would love some advice, please.

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  16 дней назад +1

      What build are you on? Stable or Canary? I haven’t really been up to date since this video that I’m sure there’s new updates.

    • @Digital-Cajun
      @Digital-Cajun 16 дней назад

      @OtenP_ I stick with Stable. I downloaded 7th about 8 days ago.

    • @Digital-Cajun
      @Digital-Cajun 16 дней назад

      @@OtenP_ There is an update that prompts me, but I'm warned that it is Canary, so I'm dodging it for now until I become more familiar with 7th.

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  16 дней назад +1

      Yeah that’s weird. Im in the tsunamod discord and there’s a mod support page where they will definitely help out more than I could

    • @Digital-Cajun
      @Digital-Cajun 16 дней назад

      I'LL give it a shot. Thanks, man. 🖖

  • @sofia-fc9ke
    @sofia-fc9ke Месяц назад

    thank u so much for this!! took me so long but it ended up working perfectly

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  Месяц назад +1

      @@sofia-fc9ke awesome! So glad it helped you out, enjoy the awesome play through

  • @winktinktillium4362
    @winktinktillium4362 9 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you so much for this guide OtenP! Not kidding you, i watched 6 other videos and spent a good amount of time trying to get 7th Heaven to work. Your video was the only one that worked for me to be able to actually get the newest version of 7th Heaven to work. Changing the build in program to Canary then updating was the only way to get the one file to register and allow for Game Driver settings to be changed!
    Your mod list is amazing and i cannot believe how great the game looks sounds etc. I too replay this at least every few years and this by far will be my most anticipated playthrough. Very much agree that with these mods, this is the remake that I at least wanted.

    • @winktinktillium4362
      @winktinktillium4362 9 месяцев назад +1

      oh and liked and subbed!

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  9 месяцев назад +2

      No problem! I’m glad it could help you out! I was on the same boat as you, I couldn’t find any video until I read a lot of forums and Reddit that helped out a lot but I wanted to make a video to help others out. Want them to experience the game this way as I did so they can see how incredible it is.
      Thank you for the awesome feedback really made my day. Hope you enjoy your play through!👍🏼
      Also welcome! Thanks for the sub! 🙏🏼 appreciate you

  • @DrummerPunked
    @DrummerPunked 7 месяцев назад

    7th heaven won't install for some reason on windows 11. I'm not sure why, but any help would be appreciated.

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  7 месяцев назад

      Not sure, I’m in windows 11 and it works fine. I would suggest joining the tsunamod discord and going to mod support and they can help you out much better

  • @stylin4905
    @stylin4905 8 месяцев назад +2

    anyone else getting asked to move the game folder to c/games and when u do the game loads but not the mods even tho u change the location to where they are

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  8 месяцев назад

      What build of 7th heaven are you using

  • @Only_Some
    @Only_Some 7 месяцев назад

    uninstalling does nothing.. you have to remove the mods from within the program to remove them before uninstalling. because the mods are not within the program.. they are your replaced game files

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  7 месяцев назад

      Okay cool

  • @darkgladiator27
    @darkgladiator27 6 месяцев назад

    I’m playing a modded version on switch and damn. This footage here is incredible compared to what I’ve seen on console

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  5 месяцев назад

      oh yes, its night and day. I've played the Og so much that these mods made it refreshing!

  • @alemonop
    @alemonop 7 месяцев назад

    The game keeps crashing whenever I use the finishing touch mod, does anyone know a fix around it?

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  7 месяцев назад

      Canary build or stable?

  • @iandc730
    @iandc730 7 месяцев назад

    Which controller would be best to use? Can use ps4 or ps5 controller right? Just had this mod working last night and it was epic man. Thanks!

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  7 месяцев назад +1

      I used a ps5 but you can you a ps4 or even xbox I'm sure. No problem! glad I could help, thanks for watching

  • @tahzib1451
    @tahzib1451 7 месяцев назад

    there are 3 moddershaven download files...which one should i get? the first one?or all 3?

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  7 месяцев назад

      Pick which ever one you want to play with, I just used the enemy pack and summons

  • @wcovell4120
    @wcovell4120 4 месяца назад

    Any advice for load order with the New Threat mod and these?

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  4 месяца назад

      I haven’t tried new threat myself but try using the auto sort button on the side with new threat in the list

  • @tidus298
    @tidus298 7 месяцев назад

    can you not put the mod list in comment cos cant see them clearly in the pic

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  7 месяцев назад

      I just checked you can see it clearly. You can’t put images in comments I don’t think. I need to update the mod list, this one’s older

  • @Dman25
    @Dman25 6 месяцев назад

    I’ve been trying to play FFVII, and I got it on Switch a while back. I didn’t make it very far though, in large part because of how generally dated the game feels. I’m considering picking it up again on Steam (it’s only $5 after all) so I can play it with mods. I imagine that would make the game more enjoyable for me by merit of it feeling less off-putting. Would you recommend doing this, or would experiencing it vanilla first be more ideal?

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  6 месяцев назад

      Hard to say, I played the game back in the day and even to this day I enjoy the vanilla version a lot. But as a new comer I understand how off putting the original maybe. These mods for sure will make it more enjoyable and make it a little more pleasing to the eye. I do recommend to play the OG one but if not definitely give it a shot with mods it’s a better translation I think than the original

    • @Dman25
      @Dman25 5 месяцев назад

      @@OtenP_ I’ve got a little update: I decided to just keep playing on Switch, and the game’s grown on me massively! The occasional bit of datedness doesn’t really bother me anymore (especially with online guides to help me through the more obscure stuff lol). I think my real issue the first time was that I abused battle boost mode and barely touched materia because when I first started it, I was honestly pretty bad at jrpgs lol. A full game restart fixed that issue. I’m now at the start of the third huge materia mission after the Cloud memory shenanigans. I can’t say most of the twists surprised me much (the curse of playing a 27 year old game that’s taken over pop culture), but I have enjoyed seeing them in more detail. Overall, I’m having a pretty great time with it, no mods required!

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  5 месяцев назад

      As an OG gamer I’m VERY happy you decided to give it another shot and now you are seeing why it’s a timeless classic lol. That was actually a good move you did by starting over. The “boosts” they offer is good but for it being your first time I would recommend just using the speed up function. You gotta level up your materia of course like you said, makes the game more enjoyable. Also once you get to the part of the game where you have more freedom, makes it more fun to explore and discover things.

  • @eugineshaitan8215
    @eugineshaitan8215 7 месяцев назад

    Tell me, can I run it on a 32-bit window?

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  7 месяцев назад

      Not at home atm, but I believe there were options before to pick. Might be wrong

  • @shawn1676
    @shawn1676 7 месяцев назад

    Even with the mods cant get into this game owell

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  7 месяцев назад

      It’s from 1997, hasn’t received no type of care from square gameplay wise. Can’t expect much

  • @onizukathegame4808
    @onizukathegame4808 10 месяцев назад

    Hello. I dont need any mods... I only need full screen without black places right/left. This is good think?

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  10 месяцев назад +1

      For that I think the only way is to go to the display settings on the 7th heaven manager and change to wide screen, but it stretches the image

    • @onizukathegame4808
      @onizukathegame4808 10 месяцев назад

      @@OtenP_ echhh i have problem becouse 7heaven are not comability whit my polish translator.... Ok i play full screen orginal Ff7 :) Thx :)

  • @shahryarrizvi1
    @shahryarrizvi1 7 месяцев назад

    Great video, thank you. I was planning on just getting FFVII on switch because the main things I wanted were the ability to skip battles, go at a faster pace, etc. But I'd like to see what the games like with these other visual mods. It's been a long time since I finished it

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  7 месяцев назад +1

      No problem! Thank you for checking out the video, yes I highly recommend to try the game like this and add the mods you prefer. You can always still skip battles and even put faster speed up options than the console versions

  • @texaspete1523
    @texaspete1523 8 месяцев назад

    I have v3.3.1.0 release and installed it to c: drive didnt change nothing on where as it already makes destination so i didnt mess with that. So upon opening 7 heaven your paths ff7 exe and library paths are set and mine are blank. So i browsed where my steam ff7 exe file is my g: drive but library yours has a folder labeled mods and i dont have.. do i need to install 7heaven to my ff7exe file or whats the deal?

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  8 месяцев назад +1

      That’s odd, there’s a new version out now not sure if that maybe a problem. When I downloaded 7th heaven I left it at default location as well like you. And my ff7 steam in on my D drive, it should locate it.

    • @texaspete1523
      @texaspete1523 8 месяцев назад

      At first it did show nothing but afterwards after install and uninstall multiple times it shows up and a mod folder came up. having a hard time @@OtenP_

    • @texaspete1523
      @texaspete1523 8 месяцев назад

      mines on d drive as well@@OtenP_

  • @kiritopier3099
    @kiritopier3099 10 месяцев назад

    Greetings, question, do you know why 7theaven appears as a virus on my computer?

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  10 месяцев назад

      Hello! So I’m not sure why that is happening with you. I’ve been using 7th heaven for a long time and have never had issues. This is a guess I’m taking I’m not entirely sure but might be because the manager has a speed hack so your computer might be reading that as a virus

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  10 месяцев назад

      Also to be safe make sure you download from the website I did. That’s the official one

  • @PROM3TH3US1991
    @PROM3TH3US1991 6 месяцев назад

    Having a hard time finding the Qhimm Community Mod for Field Scenes, they removed the mod list from the webpage....

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  6 месяцев назад

      finalfantasy.german-syslinux-blog.de/FF7/ I still found it by googling it

    • @PROM3TH3US1991
      @PROM3TH3US1991 6 месяцев назад

      @@OtenP_ LOL i just spent like over an hour googling it and couldn't find it lol

    • @PROM3TH3US1991
      @PROM3TH3US1991 6 месяцев назад

      @@OtenP_ it also looks like you have t download them all separately now?

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  6 месяцев назад

      @@PROM3TH3US1991 I just downloaded one file and import to 7th heaven

  • @zZiL341yRj736
    @zZiL341yRj736 9 месяцев назад

    What about Ever Crisis? Isn't that the closest Remake to this one?

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  9 месяцев назад

      Closest to the this mod?

    • @ganymede4030
      @ganymede4030 7 месяцев назад

      I mean I guess? Ever Crisis also has gacha stuff and is separated by chapters that are released periodically. You don't get the full game immediately and are stuck doing mobile game gacha pulls. This is still the definitive way to place over EC.

  • @Tanner_Video
    @Tanner_Video 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you! Got it working fine, but the footsteps are sort of crunchy sounding or some sort of audio clipping here and there...know what mod might be conflicting with each other? I have the exact same modlist as the imgur

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  9 месяцев назад

      Glad it’s working! So for the footsteps no quite sure what would be causing it. Might be cosmo memory cause some issues. I have a part 2 video going through each mod options. IN DEPTH explanation for modding FINAL FANTASY VII (Modding Tutorial)
      ruclips.net/video/mo3Wz6wCn_Y/видео.html maybe this could help, I need to update that imgur because I think I have some out of order compared to the ones I’m using now

  • @ganymede4030
    @ganymede4030 7 месяцев назад +2

    Nice! Thanks man. Also just wanted to add that FF7 is $4.79 (usd) on steam right now! It's on sale through the 12th of February 2024

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  7 месяцев назад +1

      No problem! Glad the tutorial helped you out. That’s awesome! Yeah steam has the best prices when things are on sale

  • @DBoy176
    @DBoy176 8 месяцев назад

    When i try lauching the game through 7th heaven i get this mssage Could not find file 'C:\Games\Final Fantasy VII\mods\7th Heaven\c0d1e191-a251-465d-8a3c-a3be5366d849_60_30_FPS_Gameplay_1.12.iro'. what do i do?

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  8 месяцев назад

      What version are you using, are your mods in the correct order? If not try auto sorting them. Might have the 60fps mod in the wrong place

  • @ItzVALOR
    @ItzVALOR 7 месяцев назад

    i need help mine don’t load the paths on top they are empty

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  7 месяцев назад +1

      you have the game on steam? If yes, what drive is it downloaded on

    • @ItzVALOR
      @ItzVALOR 7 месяцев назад

      @@OtenP_ the system c drive i only have one as of now

  • @mir6685
    @mir6685 10 месяцев назад

    Hello. I am watching your video and trying to organize my 7th heaven. How do you add the moddershaven into the 7th heaven?

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  10 месяцев назад +1

      Check out this video it’s basically a part 2 ruclips.net/video/mo3Wz6wCn_Y/видео.htmlsi=T9MdE72WIgRexhy4 there’s an import button you’ll see in the video.

    • @mir6685
      @mir6685 10 месяцев назад

      @@OtenP_ Thank you bro!

  • @Nator316
    @Nator316 Год назад

    What a bust. I got it from Steam for $4.04

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  Год назад +1

      That’s good, normally when games are on sale on steam they are way cheaper but when there’s no sale CDKeys has the best prices

  • @TheRedRaven_
    @TheRedRaven_ 7 месяцев назад

    What file are you downloading from ModdersHaven Official release? Base pack only?

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah I believe it’s the base pack, it’s the one with enemies, bosses, summons, Vincent’s transformations. I have a part 2 to this video and I believe I go over that

    • @TheRedRaven_
      @TheRedRaven_ 7 месяцев назад

      @@OtenP_ I watched the second video also, you tell us what it is and where you downloaded it from but you don't actually go to the "files" tab and show which file. I'm almost positive it's the base pack but just wanted you to confirm.

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  7 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheRedRaven_ pretty sure is then, I made these videos a while ago. It should be the base model pack

    • @TheRedRaven_
      @TheRedRaven_ 7 месяцев назад

      @@OtenP_ So looks like I'm good to go, everything is downloading, aside from one set of mods I can't find. Where did you download the Tsunamods SYW V5 textures? In the catalog I can only find "unified" versions. Is that the same thing, because they do look recently updated...maybe the name was changed?

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  7 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheRedRaven_ yeah it’s a name change. If you are going to use those field textures I recommend just to just use “ cosmos limit break” it will be true widescreen. Only have that active for field textures other wise it will cause issues

  • @rigoureusetiti6485
    @rigoureusetiti6485 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you guys i will test

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  9 месяцев назад +1

      No problem! if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. Ill try my best to help.

  • @sodapopbox5785
    @sodapopbox5785 Год назад

    Have u modes FF8?

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  Год назад

      Are you asking if I have modded ff8?

  • @Martel4
    @Martel4 7 месяцев назад

    The battles look awesome

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  7 месяцев назад

      Yes, it’s a whole new experience for sure 👍🏼

  • @bitsuuuuuu
    @bitsuuuuuu Месяц назад

    Sucks, pirated don't even work with the mods. Why no one even found a way to make it possible?? No kind hackers I guess. I'd rather play the remake, it's better than these mods.

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  Месяц назад

      @@bitsuuuuuu a legit copy is pretty cheap.

    • @bitsuuuuuu
      @bitsuuuuuu Месяц назад

      @@OtenP_ Meh. Better play some other free games.

    • @OtenP_
      @OtenP_  Месяц назад

      You can literally get this game cheaper than a McDonald’s happy meal