Despite Aksis gone, i don't think the splicers are giving up, they have lost so many leaders over time, they have probably gotten used to it, right now, they are probably like, "Aksis? Gone. Boo-hoo, who will take his place? next?"
Even well over five years later this is my favorite destiny raid by both atmosphere and gameplay. Something about the dark siva facilities is cool in my opinion
My favorite visual is when you go to Aksis’s boss room and you see this giant siva node in this huge dark room so godamn cool. Way more intimidating than the pyramid ships from d2 lol.
he probably didnt catch him. Ive been through that (amazing) raid so many times on HM and have still yet to see for myself, Randall himself. and as a side note, whenever i'm not the 1st one in that room from the fall, i always ask my fireteam if they can spot him. and i usually get a responce that always baffles me: "who's randall the vandal?"
Arlan Abenojar "Its the second hour in the tomato isle, the repugnant cold stare beams back at me. A face of regret? No. A face of pity, realising its my reflection in said tomato I swiftly turn back, there on to me"
On the subject of what's controlling SIVA, perhaps it's something far simpler and far more sinister than most theories might believe: It's self-aware, eating away at the minds of its hosts and slowly forming its own consciousness, like Corvus was in Black Ops 3.
Battle Rifle Yes, COD has a story that isn't just shoot stuff in the face. Also, you're complaining about a game series not having a story on a DESTINY video.
Jacob Kern COD's story at this point is the most cliched and cringiest experience I've even went through. It pretends to be more then "shoot stuff in the face", but the effort put there is laughably pathetic. And yeah, you got me on the second part there. GG.
James Day Destiny's lore is the "most extensive ever" because they don't bother putting 1/2 of a story into their games and would much rather put them into cards.
What if in hard mode, after you kill Aksis, Bungie adds another boss. One we haven't seen or heard of yet that is the real mind behind Siva. That would probably be the slickest move Bungie has pulled yet.
Piano Manplayer I never mentioned fists look up the definition of melee. And also it's said they grappled for hours so there would have been a lot more attacks than just one headbutt
No not really the only true story was them both eventually losing their weapons and as solkis was picking saint -14 up and crushing him, saint-14 caved the kells' skull in with a headbutt.
I think what the cryptarc meant by "you're not done with siva yet" is that you destroyed the production of siva but there is still siva out in the cosmodrome. After all you only destroyed the PRODUCTION of siva not all of siva itself.
I just thought of an encounter perfect for the hard mode- in hard raid, after we defeat Aksis again, a path opens up behind his alter. When we follow this path we are lead to a room completely entangled in siva. In this room is the revived Devil Kell, but he isn't alone. In the room with him, hanging from the roof are the remaining Iron Lords, long dead and siva infused (Remember there are 4 more). In order to defeat the kell, we must defeat captains and kill servitors to get the siva charges to lower his shield. However after his shield drops, we must defeat one of the siva Iron Lords to reclaim his axe. Like Crota, only the axe can do damage to the Kell. However there is a twist, after the Iron Lord is defeated, the Kell is surrounded by a siva swarm. One guardian is empowered, allowing him/her to enter the siva swarm without taking damage. If the guardian is unable to deal damage or is killed while empowered, the Kell will deem you unworthy and kill your entire fireteam. I feel this encounter would be amazing to have in the raid. Not only would it be challenging, but would put to rest the story of the Iron Lords.
Nothing quite like listening to some lore while doing Homework. This was my first lore video from you surprisingly and I loved it. Can't wait for more and I am excited to look back at previous videos Byf.
That was beyond intense and thought-provoking. I'm quite interested to see what hard mode brings next week. You did a fantastic job and I cannot get enough of these videos
Man I miss destiny 1…. It was such a perfect game, I really do wish destiny too was basically an add on or the whole game just came out in DLCs so we could have all our gear and raids and missions…
All the details that Byf here has gone into so much work to put together, is what we should have in the raid in some sort of narrative. If we don't go into the grimoire, we don't find out the purpose for any of the actions we do or the bosses we fight and their reasons for being. Thanks for putting this together Byf
Very small chance of you reading this, but your narrative is enthralling. I watched this video just because it was there. I will now go and watch the other raid videos, for your brilliiant storytelling skills. My single sub may not be much, but you have it.
Seeing as SIVA is a self replicating "nanomachines son", I see no reason not to believe it could generate a hive mind of it's own. Either just through the mass of SIVA entities creates a consciousness or an actual physical computer mind is built by it. Or perhaps a different theory is the more of yourself you replace with SIVA, the more like it you become. Not just in body but in mind as well. SIVA's prime directive is to "consume enhance replicate", that is it's sole drive. By the looks of the grimoire card, this constant message is playing in the back of Aksis's mind, to the point where he's replaced so much of himself with SIVA that he questions whether his mind is even his own. Which if he's replaced any of his thinking matter with SIVA he's probably right. If left to his own devices, I imagine Aksis would incorporate so much SIVA into himself that there would be no Aksis left, no skin no skeleton no bone, and no mind. Completely "consumed" by SIVA. What would a brain be completely replaced by SIVA? Just a lump of SIVA, and if that is all that is left as the thinking matter of this creature, then it will only have one directive. Consume Enhance Replicate
Yet another reason why this raid just FEELS so much like Vault of Glass. "Guys! the Vex are up to no good! Go do something about it!" or some such nondescript reasoning for going in. Also, getting to Atheon AND getting to Aksis both got the same reaction out of me: "wait, who is this guy?"
Aksis: stupid random archon transformed to SIVA and blessed with >10,000,000 health. Atheon: big ass Minotaur, who is also annoying with the projectiles on hard
@@ChaoticAnamnesis VOG was different. It's supposed to be like that. It's meant to be mysterious, creepy, anxiety inducing, etc. It makes you feel small and alone, even when surrounded by friends.
Missed out on this bc I was sick of Destiny around Taken King but I have to say that this raid had the best looking armor and coolest looking raid boss in all of D1 and D2.
bro you just brought so much more depth to the raid for me I can't wait to go raid again this weekend this kind of depth needs to be in game so bad I love what u do byf I love the channel but if bungie put this kind of stuff in game with cut scenes
I love the theme of this dlc. The idea of a living machine that grows and spreads on its own is awesome and the way it has red veins and black diamond/pyramids is just so aesthetically pleasing. Plus the gear looks really good(especially upgraded weapons), I just wish the raid was harder... The raid gear in King's fall and crota's end was pretty shit in my opinion.
nah bruh, not pressing read more! Done with people like you! Either just tell me the joke or dont. Dont make me press click one more time just to see your joke, that probly aint even good :P
I mean, we can kind of see it in the normal game. For instance, the Vex took over Mercury in hours. Look at the Burning Shrine and Vertigo, and especially their backgrounds. As for the Cabal, look around on Mars. The Hive, we saw how far they ate away at the Moon, even to the point of making a portal to the Ascendant Plane for Crota. As for the Fallen, look at the current state of the Cosmodrome.
that sounded so much cooler than the raid. like the final mission of the campaign the first time you play it awesome. or the mission to get the gjallarhorn. or even when you get the new subclass in TTK.
So Byf, I've looked around grimoire having to do with Exos and there always seems to have some kind of reference of something else talking. I've theorized about another consciousness in control myself. I especially looked into Exos becauss the Clovis Bray facility on Mars specializes in Exo science, and since we connected Clovis Bray to the Warmind network, it would make sense that the SIVA has just come awake now instead of sooner. We accredit the fallen for finding the SIVA, but what if the SIVA found them, and was using them
That’s a pretty good theory, I do have a question though. Is it possible that this SIVA outbreak could be caused by a certain project failure in the Clovis Bray Corporation?
@@varikstheloyal4875 damn, I totally forgot about this comment from 4 years ago lol. So this is pretty outdated speculation on my part, I believe that what we know about SIVA is that it was something utilized by Rasputin for self defense, and that it doesn’t have a “mind of its own” that found the fallen
I still haven't done the raid. However it did not spoil the raid for me. On the contrary. I t has excited me. It has peaked my interest on the raid all the more. Now I must experience it for myself. Keep up the good work.
Watching this from D2, when we’ve seen the Exodus Black on Nessus. Not only did it carry colonists to settle on Nessus, but also some SIVA to help create a place for them. Furthermore, I’m almost entirely sure that the boss from the end of the Exodus Crash strike (the one where you clean the Fallen base from Failsafe’s ship) can be seen wearing the colors of the House of Devils, not Dusk
"And it only takes a second, For it to break through."
*cue Titan bellowing a mighty roar as he brings a fist of havoc down on Aksis*
And here I thought there was not much lore on the new raid! Nice work as usual
Myelin Games Melin Hey bro!!!
Great to hear that from a fellow Exalted Wizard!
Guys if you haven't already, check out Myelin! His Destiny Lore content rocks!
+My name is Byf I've seen it, pretty cool
The two best lore keepers of Destiny!
They could have just closed the gate
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Despite Aksis gone, i don't think the splicers are giving up, they have lost so many leaders over time, they have probably gotten used to it, right now, they are probably like, "Aksis? Gone. Boo-hoo, who will take his place? next?"
Dieperdors W tru
Dieperdors W
Ozzie Ozbourn3 Its Randal the vandals time to shine.
Tayler phoenix He was killed too.
Dieperdors W Randal will never die, him and xylar will rise
Even well over five years later this is my favorite destiny raid by both atmosphere and gameplay. Something about the dark siva facilities is cool in my opinion
My favorite visual is when you go to Aksis’s boss room and you see this giant siva node in this huge dark room so godamn cool. Way more intimidating than the pyramid ships from d2 lol.
Randal... it must be Randal...
ShiverPike ...
...
...
... Mind. Blown.
By god.... O.O
My name is Byf senpi noticed me...
Why do I put 3 periods at the end of every sentence? I don't know....
ShiverPike yeah its randal
Randal the vandal?
No mention of Randall the Vandal in his perfect form? I'm disappointed
he probably didnt catch him. Ive been through that (amazing) raid so many times on HM and have still yet to see for myself, Randall himself.
and as a side note, whenever i'm not the 1st one in that room from the fall, i always ask my fireteam if they can spot him. and i usually get a responce that always baffles me: "who's randall the vandal?"
Nothing makes me happier with than enjoying food while listening to lore.
God damn Byf. You could make grocery shopping sound badass. Lol
Arlan Abenojar "Its the second hour in the tomato isle, the repugnant cold stare beams back at me. A face of regret? No. A face of pity, realising its my reflection in said tomato I swiftly turn back, there on to me"
Tayler phoenix and then I ate the whole tomato
Tayler phoenix me: "There was a tomato there...then it dissapeared. Cause I fuckin' ate it, bitch!"
On the subject of what's controlling SIVA, perhaps it's something far simpler and far more sinister than most theories might believe: It's self-aware, eating away at the minds of its hosts and slowly forming its own consciousness, like Corvus was in Black Ops 3.
Nice theor-
"in Black Ops 3"
Jacob Kern Skynet
Battle Rifle Yes, COD has a story that isn't just shoot stuff in the face. Also, you're complaining about a game series not having a story on a DESTINY video.
Jacob Kern COD's story at this point is the most cliched and cringiest experience I've even went through. It pretends to be more then "shoot stuff in the face", but the effort put there is laughably pathetic. And yeah, you got me on the second part there. GG.
James Day Destiny's lore is the "most extensive ever" because they don't bother putting 1/2 of a story into their games and would much rather put them into cards.
15:40
That moment was worth watching the whole video
What if in hard mode, after you kill Aksis, Bungie adds another boss. One we haven't seen or heard of yet that is the real mind behind Siva. That would probably be the slickest move Bungie has pulled yet.
oh god they pulled that holy shit that would have been fucking genius
And so it was documented that the guardian known as Byf, dealt the final blow to Aksis... by slamming him, with arc.
Solkis. They Revived Fucking Solkis. The Devil Kell. The One That Saint-14 Melee Brawled With And Won.
Would be awesome if they did. Even more amazing if Saint-14 comes back as well.
AsakraZz awesome theory
Correction he headbutted no fists were involved
Piano Manplayer I never mentioned fists look up the definition of melee. And also it's said they grappled for hours so there would have been a lot more attacks than just one headbutt
No not really the only true story was them both eventually losing their weapons and as solkis was picking saint -14 up and crushing him, saint-14 caved the kells' skull in with a headbutt.
I think what the cryptarc meant by "you're not done with siva yet" is that you destroyed the production of siva but there is still siva out in the cosmodrome. After all you only destroyed the PRODUCTION of siva not all of siva itself.
Josiah Sawyer i have a simple solution, KILL IT WIFF 🔥
Waaaait. Spoilers? in a Raid lore video? Unacceptable.
The nerve of some people, right?
Kevin Taylor
WE MUST HAVE BLOOD...
I just thought of an encounter perfect for the hard mode-
in hard raid, after we defeat Aksis again, a path opens up behind his alter. When we follow this path we are lead to a room completely entangled in siva. In this room is the revived Devil Kell, but he isn't alone. In the room with him, hanging from the roof are the remaining Iron Lords, long dead and siva infused (Remember there are 4 more).
In order to defeat the kell, we must defeat captains and kill servitors to get the siva charges to lower his shield. However after his shield drops, we must defeat one of the siva Iron Lords to reclaim his axe. Like Crota, only the axe can do damage to the Kell. However there is a twist, after the Iron Lord is defeated, the Kell is surrounded by a siva swarm. One guardian is empowered, allowing him/her to enter the siva swarm without taking damage. If the guardian is unable to deal damage or is killed while empowered, the Kell will deem you unworthy and kill your entire fireteam.
I feel this encounter would be amazing to have in the raid. Not only would it be challenging, but would put to rest the story of the Iron Lords.
Senpai Nemesis No Aksis is complicated enough D:
I like it.
Damn. Really pulling out all the stops.
LoganSoulsBorne4 It's not complicated or difficult at all. You just need a decent team, OR a team of friends and you need to know the mechanics.
+Get Rekt That's what I thought, it's easy to get the mechanics but hard enough to be a raid mechanic.
Great narration. Really, that "It only takes one second for light to shine through" line with the Fist of Havok was perfect.
Good lore video man, I was completely enveloped with your story telling. Keep up the good work!
That Titan slam to kill Aksis gave me chills lol great job, and awesome narration.
This was great! This is the reasons why I love the game. I cannot wait for more content Byf!
Been waiting on a WOTM lore video! Thanks Byf!
I want this raid back (for good, Byf would say)!
Who managed to memory of Timur an exploder shank?
That's one reason that I love Rise of Iron!
Reflecting taniks scorch cannon takes up no ammo
Not like it does anything....
Mecha Zard been there done that
Jagroop Cheema try a Hallowed cursed thrall
That was awesome when you finished off Aksis with the Fist of Havoc. Thanks Byf, you make the coolest Destiny videos. Keep up the great work!
Nothing quite like listening to some lore while doing Homework.
This was my first lore video from you surprisingly and I loved it. Can't wait for more and I am excited to look back at previous videos Byf.
That was beyond intense and thought-provoking. I'm quite interested to see what hard mode brings next week.
You did a fantastic job and I cannot get enough of these videos
That clip where you slam Aksis to death is so epic! Well done Byf!
Man I miss destiny 1…. It was such a perfect game, I really do wish destiny too was basically an add on or the whole game just came out in DLCs so we could have all our gear and raids and missions…
All the details that Byf here has gone into so much work to put together, is what we should have in the raid in some sort of narrative. If we don't go into the grimoire, we don't find out the purpose for any of the actions we do or the bosses we fight and their reasons for being. Thanks for putting this together Byf
I like what you did there with the Fist of Havock when you mentioned about the light. Beautiful touch!!!
that titan smash was really dramatic and good
What a beautiful video. I never stopped playing this raid. Thanks for this Byf.
Very well done. Beautifully put together. Loved every bit of it.
you and Meylin games is all we need for Destiny lore
Very small chance of you reading this, but your narrative is enthralling. I watched this video just because it was there. I will now go and watch the other raid videos, for your brilliiant storytelling skills. My single sub may not be much, but you have it.
Seeing as SIVA is a self replicating "nanomachines son", I see no reason not to believe it could generate a hive mind of it's own. Either just through the mass of SIVA entities creates a consciousness or an actual physical computer mind is built by it.
Or perhaps a different theory is the more of yourself you replace with SIVA, the more like it you become. Not just in body but in mind as well. SIVA's prime directive is to "consume enhance replicate", that is it's sole drive. By the looks of the grimoire card, this constant message is playing in the back of Aksis's mind, to the point where he's replaced so much of himself with SIVA that he questions whether his mind is even his own. Which if he's replaced any of his thinking matter with SIVA he's probably right.
If left to his own devices, I imagine Aksis would incorporate so much SIVA into himself that there would be no Aksis left, no skin no skeleton no bone, and no mind. Completely "consumed" by SIVA. What would a brain be completely replaced by SIVA? Just a lump of SIVA, and if that is all that is left as the thinking matter of this creature, then it will only have one directive.
Consume
Enhance
Replicate
KjcKiesh does he harden under physical trauma?
He's making the mother of all omelettes. Can't fret over every egg.
KjcKiesh hey I have a directive for SIVA, if the fallen come for you, F**k em and take over
Jesus...this guy is an INCREDIBLE narrator...he needs a role in the dang game....seriously...good show byf
Fist of Havoc. Perfect Timing!
Great video man, I listen to all your lore videos while I'm working and the videos are well done. Keep the good work up.
I didn't feel like they explained why we went into this raid very well. I was wondering why and who we were killing in this Raid.
same with vault of glass
Alpha at least we got byf to tell us why
Yet another reason why this raid just FEELS so much like Vault of Glass. "Guys! the Vex are up to no good! Go do something about it!" or some such nondescript reasoning for going in.
Also, getting to Atheon AND getting to Aksis both got the same reaction out of me: "wait, who is this guy?"
Aksis: stupid random archon transformed to SIVA and blessed with >10,000,000 health.
Atheon: big ass Minotaur, who is also annoying with the projectiles on hard
@@ChaoticAnamnesis VOG was different. It's supposed to be like that. It's meant to be mysterious, creepy, anxiety inducing, etc.
It makes you feel small and alone, even when surrounded by friends.
Feed me more lore byf, MORE LORE, FORCE FEED ME LORE BYF!
You shall grow fat from knowledge.
Owen Pollreis 3 years later, can confirm.
I enjoy your lore videos. I think it would be great to have one exploring what it's like for the agents of the darkness to face guardians in battle
probably the best video you've ever made
I promise these Lore videos and content be the truth!! it makes playing Destiny more enjoyable and understandable. please keep more content coming!!!
Hey man, this was REALLY well made. Well done Byf!
Well written. Well delivered. Well illustrated. Great job!
This was just absolutely lovely Byf. Nice work!
Missed out on this bc I was sick of Destiny around Taken King but I have to say that this raid had the best looking armor and coolest looking raid boss in all of D1 and D2.
bro you just brought so much more depth to the raid for me I can't wait to go raid again this weekend this kind of depth needs to be in game so bad I love what u do byf I love the channel but if bungie put this kind of stuff in game with cut scenes
14:40 just casually tea bagging the orb.
Good work man, one of your best lore videos!
Great video Byf. That tether for the shanks should be much higher as it grabs the shanks better. You are a very good story teller.
Best lore channel on RUclips
that voice. very soothing like a mad mans lullaby . i need you to voice a mad man in a movie
Awesome video and narration! Always look forward to your videos, and love hearing you on GR.
I'm the mind that controls the Siva.
Randal The Splicer Vandal That would be incredible.
omg i forgot about Randal the vandal
Randal The Splicer Vandal ohai randal
They actually added a splicer Randal in the raid but Randal is spelled differently
As someone who loves to read up destiny lore, I appreciate that "marvel with thousand arms" reference.
best video about siva storyline ... Byf keep going .. I almost left the game because it has no meaning but you just got me back to it ..
Byf kills it again. Freaking love your vids man.
holy crap i love your lore vids.
they just feel so....epic.
nice work
4 years later and still my favorite raid.
I loved this raid. I wish we could get some kind of flashback Raids so we could go back and play the old ones in D2.
I love the theme of this dlc.
The idea of a living machine that grows and spreads on its own is awesome and the way it has red veins and black diamond/pyramids is just so aesthetically pleasing.
Plus the gear looks really good(especially upgraded weapons), I just wish the raid was harder... The raid gear in King's fall and crota's end was pretty shit in my opinion.
I love these lore vids & your voice is smooth as silk dude
Byf, you sir are awesome! Love these lore vids you make!
one of your best videos buddy, loved it
Im hella early so heres a joke
Shoulder Charge was nerfed.
nah bruh, not pressing read more! Done with people like you! Either just tell me the joke or dont. Dont make me press click one more time just to see your joke, that probly aint even good :P
AwsomeSauceBigJ 😞
Nathaniel Moore you just made my day
This isn't funny. Titans for life
Warlocks reign supreme @byf
The amount of work that went into this video would have taken me until the release of the Santa Claus DLC. Damn good job.
There need to be a dlc showing what happens when every enemy succeeds without the interference of the guardians
I mean, we can kind of see it in the normal game. For instance, the Vex took over Mercury in hours. Look at the Burning Shrine and Vertigo, and especially their backgrounds. As for the Cabal, look around on Mars. The Hive, we saw how far they ate away at the Moon, even to the point of making a portal to the Ascendant Plane for Crota. As for the Fallen, look at the current state of the Cosmodrome.
Well that strike at the end was badass!
that sounded so much cooler than the raid. like the final mission of the campaign the first time you play it awesome.
or the mission to get the gjallarhorn. or even when you get the new subclass in TTK.
Excellent work as always! Keep up the good work!
Great video, really liked the outro music
Just EPIC! Amazing work Byf!
Thank you for this video, Byf. Really good!
Team with the greatest titans, warlocks, and hunters.
Me repeatedly dying and failing the encounter
So Byf, I've looked around grimoire having to do with Exos and there always seems to have some kind of reference of something else talking. I've theorized about another consciousness in control myself. I especially looked into Exos becauss the Clovis Bray facility on Mars specializes in Exo science, and since we connected Clovis Bray to the Warmind network, it would make sense that the SIVA has just come awake now instead of sooner. We accredit the fallen for finding the SIVA, but what if the SIVA found them, and was using them
That’s a pretty good theory, I do have a question though. Is it possible that this SIVA outbreak could be caused by a certain project failure in the Clovis Bray Corporation?
@@varikstheloyal4875 damn, I totally forgot about this comment from 4 years ago lol. So this is pretty outdated speculation on my part, I believe that what we know about SIVA is that it was something utilized by Rasputin for self defense, and that it doesn’t have a “mind of its own” that found the fallen
I still haven't done the raid. However it did not spoil the raid for me. On the contrary. I t has excited me. It has peaked my interest on the raid all the more. Now I must experience it for myself. Keep up the good work.
describes the light.
continues to kill aksis with a fist of havoc that doesn't even hit him nor the ground
I am so doing this
oddly enough is does hit aksis, if you look in the left bottom of the screen. it says he generated orbs of light.
+kaiokenx360 also you see the dmg numbers If I remember correctly
You've provided an invaluable public service, thank you!
excellent video byf! maybe one day youll be asked to make some grimoire of your own for the game!
That was really awesome!Looking forward to more lore videos :)
Thank you for the video.
Also, nice Titan smash. :D
Awesome lore video byf!
Byf, you're like the Vaati of Destiny.
Awesome vid as always bud. I swear bungie right these grimore cards with the knowledge that you will be reading them out in something like this :D
Another great video, you keep my love for this game alive! I watch your videos for hours mostly when Bungie gives us crap seasons, thank you kind sir!
This was awesome byf! Did you ever do ones on the old raids too? Either way love your stuff man!
Fallen: wants a machine.
Splicer: is a machine.
The fist of havoc on the aksis kill😂
Thanks for all the lore videos
I'm loving these lore videos
Love what you did here Byf, did or will you do this for the other raids?
4:11 lol that captain took a nade to the face on his way down to hell
Amazing video Byf! Thanks!
Damn, can't wait for hard mode and the next April Update type thing that might expand on this!
Your lore will always be exquisite!
Watching this from D2, when we’ve seen the Exodus Black on Nessus. Not only did it carry colonists to settle on Nessus, but also some SIVA to help create a place for them. Furthermore, I’m almost entirely sure that the boss from the end of the Exodus Crash strike (the one where you clean the Fallen base from Failsafe’s ship) can be seen wearing the colors of the House of Devils, not Dusk
Can this return in d2 this is deadass the second best raid in the entire series in my heart