WH40k: Dawn of War 2 - 3v3 | boogeyman + Stolensoul + Overtly [vs] Cpt. Slog + DeleD + oLev
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3.19.1.10320 + Elite Mod 2.9.11
boogeyman | Space Marines [Techmarine]
Stolensoul | Eldar [Warlock]
[EL] Klaus Schwab | Space Marines [Apothecary]
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Cpt. Slog | Imperial Guard [Lord Commissar]
DeleD | Ordo Malleus [Brother-Captain]
oLev | Imperial Guard [Inquisitor]
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GG, particularly enjoyed the Ven Dread managing to destroy the Land Raider before stoicism expired. 🤖🤜
This has nothing to do with the game, but Red team reminds me of some of the army comps I used to play back in 8th Edition of Tabletop 40k. Nice little mix of Guardsman, Inquisitorial support, and Grey Knights as the meat and potatoes of the force.
OG as a player is fine. The guy is nice (if a bit pretencious). My main issue is juste how plain it is to fight him. Its just always the same thing. Takes away some of that wacky suprise you see from some builds. He is still a really good player tho. Plus, he rocks Lamenters, so he has taste.
Loved watching the cast of Indrid's previous video. Well played Gunter, was entertaining to watch and for sure wasn't expecting that ending. I'm watching as a complete noob who doesn't understand anything about RTS so I couldnt understand how dire the situation was... just saw the VP dropping to double digit and then the comeback.
Well played. Keep it up :D
his strategy can actually create fun map plays cause the game stops being lane based. The reason I'll always hate his playstyle is his reliance on node spamming, a most obnoxious part of his strategy that people don't seem to mention
@Gioke. Thanks! Gotta say, my teammates did incredible, too. Unununium was just a rock that held the line while Orks were just running around, causing chaos allowing me to strike at valuable targets.
It's infuriating and unpopular because he exploits the game mechanics, which can be quite abusive at times. TACs with Apo support are very tanky in T1 and flamers rape gens so fast, and then tacs cap it at extra speed. He usually doubles one side with a team mate to allow him to do his fast flamer bash thing.
Especially races with no flamer type unit then take a long time (and need their whole army) to destroy the node to recap it again, at which point he insta nodes it again and repeat. (The infuriating part) Then after wasting a lot of time and you do get to recap it, his scouts stealth in and nade wipes the capping unit.
Yes, it's well played, but can also fail hard when the opposing side does know how to deal with it.. (Keep the pressure on his lane power),
And then of course the cyclone termie spam that insta wipes everything - tanks, infantry and yes, whole power farms in one barrage from 2 cyclone termies.
Well played, but still, it's cheese and it's infuriating.
The overtly build does fail reasonably frequently if he is pushed early game and prevented from getting going. Once the train leaves the station it is pretty irresistible.
I just wanted to get rid of that Apothecary quickly as he was like a kingpin to Overtly's 'terminator army' so went double ST. Yes those 2 words can be used in the same sentence.... I think Pblade would have been better but thought picking off models had better value...could have done a lot differently. Anyway it was a good long game.
O, are you Captain Slog? How would you rate your skill level?
@@2reeceybaby well I used to play a lot more often
the problem with spectating an overtly game is its always the same if it gets to your preferences.. he will get a few clutch plays, his team mates will be forced to carry and he is about as adaptable as a brick, it really takes away a lot of the excitement that a more natural back and forth game provides. Its not "how he plays" its more a problem with "how he only plays." 9 out of 10 games he loses that you cast he loses because he refuses to abandon the strat and help his team.
And then you jump into a few games of dow2 Elite and every match ends in T1 because Overtly's team gets rolled 3v2 every time as he is trying to do his late game termie build. Eventually you stop countering him just so the match can continue to T3.
Are you saying that there are few games of elite mode to watch and every match with overtly ends in t1? Because it is quite an opposite of what is shown in this channel in particular.
@@Ketiseb I am talking about when you actually play Elite mod. His build gets countered and his team always loses in T1 or early T2. Its just the same thing every match, game never gets to T3.
@@tsukkomigordoWhat is your in game name?
If overtly plays the exact same way everytime, congratulation's you know what hes gonna do, play accordingly. Vkewers may find it boring, but one tricking exists in everything, overtly has found his one trick and it works. As indrid said, it takes alot more skill than people think, especially when he didn't drop a single squad in this match.
When you need to control so little units you better not be losing units and micro well.
why not get manticore with crossbolt pistol(for control)to nuke the terminator blob?
3 Terms? Quite daring ...
An interesting experiment would be to see how OG does when unable to build more than one terminator squad
I wonder if a 1 cyclone limit per army would be possible, as a potential alternative.
I'm pretty sure he would quit the game.
Is it bad that I knew all the different players and their play styles Indrid was referencing? 😳
I miss this map. No one ever seems to want to play, but it can have some really awesome battles !
Wow!! Those names! The stars of replays when i was in my 40k infancy. Takes me back to all the "attitudes". Good times.
I appreciate Indrid sharing what he thinks, it is unique therefore you have to counter Overtly in a different way also.
This game was next level.
Great scrap Boyz!!! Indrid thank you for the sweet cast good Sir as always...
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13:45 that warlock played himself lmao.
Wow such uniqueness. Such terminator rush. Such fun. Give unit caps and this guy will just quit
Ingenious & unique play styles are always welcome. Haters gona hate, fact O' YT life.
Mr.Indrid, is there a replay where faction war 3v3 but both sides are imperial guard?
No I don't think so.
I don’t see any problems with how Overtly it plays. He positions his units very well and since he only uses 1 tactic, he gives his opponent the opportunity to counter it.
It's silly to listen to indrid try to defend overtly, and not understand the audience. It's not the way he plays, it's that he only plays one way and it is cheese. Cheese is completely legal and exist in every game that has pvp options, its simply means the most synergy of units. Which in this game is an apothecary with cyclone terminator spam, eventually you get to a point that no other team can push you off the field, that's the Cheese. If overtly ever played in any other method, used any other race, or hell a different hero, no one would have a problem. But if it's an overtly game, you already know exactly how it will play out:
He'll abandon his lane to power bash, leaving his teammates in a 2vs3, rush teir three, get cyclone terminators as soon as each cd is done, and if you do kill them or force them off the field, he'll switch to plasma spam. Highly effective very boring to watch and likely infuriating to play against. I can't understand why anyone would bother playing with him or against him. But then he doesn't play people that knows him, he trolls nubs mostly, and they're never prepared for his antics.
Edit: there's no maybe indrid, you cant beat three terminator with apocathery support, 3v1 can not beat three terminators with apocathery support. That's why its cheese, stop defending it. The community, or at least I, hate overtly games, we hate them because three terminators. Stop defending them, they weren't nerfed, they aren't capped like they should be, one would not be a problem, stop defending cheese.
Terminators should be capped at one 🤷🏻♂️ same with nobz.
I understand the dislike for a tactic considered very strong / cheese, but let's not devolve into hyperbole. It's not unbeatable, and certainly not unbeatable 3v1. Not only was it a very close game in VPs in the end, but the opposing team got multiple expensive vehicles when playing up against triple Cyclone Missiles.
Edit: I do agree that Terminators should be capped since Seer Council are, but then do you cap Nobs too?
@@IndridCasts Oh I agree with you Indrid. It’s not unbeatable, it’s just the same thing every game he plays. Or most of them, I can’t really claim I’ve seen them all. I believe the reason the game’s close is because his teammates have to play with a handicap till he hits Tier 3. Then it’s termies galore every single time. It’s repetitive thats all
@@IndridCasts your in a 3v3, you cant have your entire team chasing down terminators. Your right this game was close but it was actually over once the second terminator was dropped. This isn't hyperbole, which overtly game have you ever cast in which he has lost? Eventually the bar is simply to much of an ask for any team and any combination, meanwhile he can just plop his army where ever he needs it; an army you can push but never defeat.
So why doesn't every sm player use overtly cheese, I'd like to say the truth but it wouldn't be nice. The short answer is they are better people than to stoop to a one trick pony.
Yes his team gets handicapped, which makes it quite risky. Which goes against describing it as cheese, since cheese strats are usually called that because they are easy and always work. I don't think OG's play style is easy, he's just very good at this strat he's developed.
This discussion was had a lot ten years ago when Techmarine turret/beacon play was considered cheesy and super strong in 3v3. Much easier to do than what OG is doing.
Many players use the same builds and build orders all the time, or at least often. You develop a playstyle through the units you like and are good at using. They just usually aren't as recognisable as OGs, or as strong in certain scenarios.
Thank you indrid:)
I LOVE seeing Overtly play EVERY SINGLE TIME. Yes, it's the same strategy, but the fact that opponents know it's coming only gets them so far. There are always tactical adaptations happening. If you don't enjoy it, that's your preference, but more of us do. And as Indrid said, if you want to see less of him, submit more high-quality replays instead of immature and toxic complaints.
His signature play style isn't about incapability; it's a deliberate, skilled approach. It's like the distinct styles of great players in chess, shogi, or go. Recognizing a player's unique strategy doesn't make it boring; it shows skill and mastery. Appreciate the nuances and enjoy the game!
I've seen 2/3 of red team in low games. Fart huffing of this extent would make more sense in a matchmaking perspective.
@@WalknTalknStevnHawkn That's exactly the problem with Overtly. I've realized his game usually falls apart if the two teams are at equal skill levels.
yes absoluytely to the lvlup making abilities better, but by changing their behaviour (turrets gets both missiles and machinegun; lightning pull apply an aoe invulnerability for 7 seconds (late game its a must if you "jump into" the enemy with a warlock it just melts in seconds; same with banshee's. so such could allow them to be usable in mid and late game when combined with an alpha strike from warlock
Edjuth actually showed up on discord chat late last year to say Hi
Terminators being stupidly tanky, not having the inherent movement deficit of vehicles, having a teleport, and having weapons that are good vs everything seems good enough to limit them to 1 for me
Okay, then Nobs, Carnifex, and multiple other similar T3 units need to be limited to 1 as well.
@@Aodyri nobs carnifex and "multiple other similar t3 units" can freely teleport off the field + get to be medium size?
@@Alex-yv5do nobs get to retreat, have synergy with every Ork hero, and we have seen double and triple nob spam be the meta MULTIPLE times over the years.
Carnifexes get to count as vehicles with Regen, are extremely flexible in weapon load out, and are more accessible than termis.
Other cheesy builds include triple fire dragons (anti everything damage) or fire prisms (knock back and sniping) from Eldar.
Catachans and Ogryns for IG, plus multiple manticores back in the day.
Neither of the opposing guard players in this game got Ogryns. They just went for big tank. The heavy melee charge squad that can be obtained T2 and has been wrecking termis since vanilla. The grey knight player went paladins instead of GKT, and didn't get a dreadnought. Seemingly little to no unit choices based on what they are fighting, but what they like to play.
@@Alex-yv5do Yeah if termies get limited to one then nobs and flash gits definitely have to be too.
@@Aodyri avatar limit to one, seer council limit to 1, upgraded ogryns, limited to one, t3 lictor limited to one? But somehow nobz and terminators oh yeah that's fine. Such an absolute Inconsistent BS ruleset.
Make terminator stronger. Cap them at one. Be done watching the cheese from OG
Overtly Gemorous game. Liked, didn't bother watching.
Same here
It's not worth it, I watched cause olev is good and old player, but it as predictable as any overtly game. They did better than most nub teams but eventually there's just a block of terminators getting healing.
Congrats, you've unlocked more overtly generous games.
I think Overtly play is fine, but he is getting predictable lately, and sometime also getting countered hard (I think his build is especially vulnerable to an extremely heavy T1 push to take advantage of his predictably small army), and also not that great at recovering when his strategy doesn't work.
But then again, even if you know how he is going to play and how to counter him, not everyone managed to pull it consistently which is also a testimony to his skill as a player. Like in this case for example, Paladin and LR is so not a way to counter his Terminators build, I think Razorback would have been a lot better even if they are vulnerable to missiles (and they are one of the fastest vehicle in the game, so it's not like you can't doge it either). And if you want to melee, getting Purifier in additional to Interceptor will probably work better with their fast movement and silence ability to prevent teleporting.
I don't think limiting Terminator is fair on that note. Especially when you still have an army of Nobs, Flash Gits, Kommandos and Carnifex
I also have never understood why people hate on OG so much, Indrid. I've been watching your replays for around a decade now, and if there's one thing I've learned it's that OG's strat is extremely hard to pull of successfully and can be effectively countered.
First time since I hear or see how Overtly plays. No problem with the play style. Why float so much resources (req) though? You could get plasmacannon teams, scouts, marines 5 times over and help the team immensely more and still get all the terrminators and still have full resource bar floating as it cumulates over time.
If you've ever wished to buy a chunk of Terminators, you'll understand why.
Do you play the game?
OG is playing? Liked the video, won’t bother to watch. Lemme guess. He plays Apo, rushes tier 3 and spams terminators. I mean it’s in the game for a reason but…. ITS BORING. It’s REPETITIVE. It feels like it has no strategy, and it takes away from the other players creativity and tactics. I still liked the video cause I Love Indrid and what he does but… OG matches are BORING
That micro is just sad.
Overtly is my fav player because of his unique playstyle
Let's get some facts straight. Overtly is a very bad player. You only see the games on the channel that go long.
Most games with Overtly in it end in 5 mins because the other team have baselocked the team with Overtly in since he doesn't have an army and it's basically a 3v2.
His "playstyle" only works versus noobs.
Terminators don't need to be limited to 1. They are basically already limited to 1 in a real game thanks to their cost. T3/red/cooldown.
Would you rather have terminators be buildable from base? And have the global be replaced with something actual useful to win engagements?
Or have a no power call-in like seers? While also being buildable from base. How about assault terminators for everyone? Sure, limit them to 1 then. Good buff.
People also seem to forget they are slow AF and can't retreat. Stun them, or root them. Without Libby support they can be toast really fast.
The shit being said on here is both hilarious and infuriating XD
love me some overtly... the man knows what I love💓
what does canboy ratio say? 2 to 1? Owwwww i would not have picked that fight.
btw, imagine eldar had a good t3! now that would be a WONDER!
my most favorite games have tyranids in them. And are 2v2´s but other than that OG is my most favorite player because he outplays his opponent´s with unit positioning and good early power pressure. Back in the day it used to be that commissar player who 100% got the fist of brockus in every match. Very strong item and it brings a ton of guardians to the roster which is the way IG is meant to be lore wise.
i really like when overtly play, its different i really like it
Overtly is a good player with a style that only he seems to be able to pull off consistently, always fun to see 😊
An Overtly game? No thanks
I sent an 2v2 csm vs sm in the mail. Hope u watch it.
On of the reasons for og dislike is that he is a one trick poney. We only see "close" or winning games because that is better for replays but statistically he loses a lot with this stuff and frankly it's rather boring to see the same over and over and over again. This is also at the expense of his mates who must carry him through tier 1.5 and 2. This is also viewed by many as an abuse of the game balance that has SM authorized to build multiple super infantry units (terminator) that are excellent all rounder, while the other races are often limited to 1 super infantry "just because".
Its not so much glitchy or w/e its just the same old build.
allways rocket termies spam (which really needs to be toned down so much)
if your lucky you get to see plasma devs. mb.
WOuld be nice to see some varity from him, but hey, if it tickles his pickle, who are we to kink shame
I think people are just tired of watching mono strat players. Disliked and pass.
i mean, i get how people have a problem with Overtly being this massive one-trick, but that's no reason to not watch. there ARE 5 other players in the game, and going "uh, overtly is in it, just not gonna watch" is massively unfair towards the other five. Especially with these new, unknown people, they're probably extremely excited to be showcased here, and it's not their fault that you people dislike watching this one player. At least keep it to yourself instead of loudly proclaiming how much you're NOT gonna watch it.
Maybe don't cast OG games... Or maybe finally implement the basic change to cap terminator at 1.
We shouldn't be forced to watching a boring one trick pony abusing a stupid ruleset. I have been asking for a terminator hard cap since at least 2010 or 2012. You either nerf a unit or you cap it. Every excuse for it is absolute trash