@@christiansnaturestudio6599 Well, can't say the same for every continuity, but I believe this was addressed at one point in comics, and it was Bruce Wayne who opted for Gotham to NOT have the death penalty.
Love how joker gets more of an emotional send off than the literal hundreds to thousands of people he's killed over his life time as a villain. Really puts into perspective the detachment people feel towards strangers.
It's like Joker's line in Dark Knight: "If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a gang banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics, because it's all 'part of the plan'. But when I say that one little old mayor will die, well then everyone loses their minds!" Joker going on a killing spree or torturing a few innocents is "part of the plan", it's the status quo he's built in Gotham. But the moment when that status quo changes, when the most notorious man in all of Gotham finally bites the dust, and for once, a vigilante "hero" claims a life, no one can cope with it. It's less out of sorrow for the death of Joker and more out of emotional attachment to how things were before the plot twist.
@@takeoverurmemes It's just a somber reflection on how things have changed from the perspective of the characters, but the civilians who have lost friends and family receive precious little attention.
After seeing the Harley Quinn series, and how many people are slaughtered on a daily basis (zombies, parademons, etc), you have to wonder how insane you have to be to live in Gotham. I don't care if they Do have rental control.....
He has murdered many innocent people. Obviously he had to die to pay for all of the lives he took away. If you dont agree with me then you can respectfully go f urselves :) "the killer will be killed" that is just karma in action, that is just the way things should be.
@@dedsecdefalt7888 and many more criminals see an open space on top to take and may have kill many more to reach. Kill one, tens more pop. That why we call it a temepaory and impractical solution. It not as effective you think. Killing sjould be use as a last resort and not able to capture the criminal. Not a go to on site.
@@doctorwho3708 He was captured, probably, a hundred times over, and it didn't stop him. Every day he kills innocents, and never gets really punished for it. This is what he deserves. Justice. Single death to prevent hundreds lost souls. What batman shows him everyday is mercy, and it's super naive. Joker doesn't deserve mercy. And if anyone takes his place - we don't know. Letting him live and continue his madness simply because there are others like him is wierd argument. In fact, fear of punishment will make those others think again.
@@doctorwho3708 Redhood's plan>>>>> batman's plan Sure more villains will pop up and not because they want to take over Gotham now that joker is dead. D.C just loves introducing criminals. Jason takes out the worst criminals before he takes out some random thug. It is pretty effective. If batman in the original movie didnt interfere with Jason's plan Gotham would 5x safer. He was running the city with fear just like batman but different. Instead of taking down gangs he was making them work for him which is hella smart. I'd take Jason's way of running Gotham over Bruce's anyday
Dylan Bridgewater to be fair,he DID a bullet hole through his skull...don't see how that would be fakable...a whole bullet hole,not just some kind of wound
Aside from plotarmor, psychiatrists from all over the world usually call dibs on him to study his unique case rather than have the authorities kill him. That or he breaks free in time or Batman rushes in with his autism and saves him
Don't think so, it's likely Barbra doesn't want to see Jason because he just break the rules for killing bad people, he's probably no longer the bat family and he just break Batman's promise to not kill joker
Considering that the only person in tears for that monster is Harleen, and Jason is currently a criminal (having gone killing without even REALIZING IT, staining the cowl and mantle of Robin with blood)? Yeah, it's somber because Jason broke Batman's code (though he didn't say I promise before Bruce died...) And Gordon has to follow the law, even though part of him REALLY wants to celebrate the death of an irredeemable sociopath who crippled his daughter and terrorized Gotham for years... The only reason Barbara cried is because Jason cemented (at the time) himself as a criminal with the prior killings and Joker's death, while relieving, meant that Jason broke that promise.
I think he was so used to taunting Batman to make him kill him but Batman never crossed that line that’s why joker was obsessed with him and when he taunted Jason, Jason was ready to cross that line
they are sad because jason broke the rule not that joker is dead now they have to chase him and arrest him he may did the right thing but hes an outlaw now
Their vigilantes too so cops should chase them as much as Jason they don't have any special permission to be crime fighters Batman and Barbra commit crimes everyday even if they don't kill.
No. Lex was actually upset. Mist people don't know this, but Lex sees Joker as himself if he ever truly lost control fighting Superman and wanting to screw up everything in his life. With him dead now, he can bury that part of himself.
@@promesdiallo2002 if I remember (I could be wrong) that's not Bruce that is Dick Grayson in the cowl and Bruce's last wish to Jason before he died was to not kill joker
@@habibpines Well thing is, this leads down the idea that if joker dies he leaves behind more madness in his wake then alive. in the beyond series his death leads to multiple gangs and the near total destruction of Gotham and it can never be reborn. Joker if he dies becomes a symbol more powerful then the bat. I personally think Jason goes on to be the next Azrael type figure that in good intentions poisons the same people the hope to protect. Leading to a pure anti villian. It happens a lot in redemption stories. Sure joker is gone but his legacy is more powerful then anything else
@@TheDarkmasterchumble No because the whole stopping to Jokers level thing has always been stupid. If you're killing someone to stop them from hurting or killing an innocent person then it's justified. Batman's no kill rule is just a cowards way out. That's his way of dealing with the fact that him and the GCPD as well as the Gotham court system has the blood of every person Joker has killed on their hands. By refusing to stop him when they had the chance they allowed Joker to continue killing innocent people. Ironically, Jason in this moment was more committed to actual justice than Batman, the police and the law.
"And then the Joker decided to commit suicide by shooting himself in the forehead. Weird." - Gordon, probably "Yeah, sure is weird. Oh well." Every judge in the whole world, probably.
And create many other killers and people believe life has no more value since the way the Earth is going and the people running Earth are destroying it All Jason did was created power vacuum which needs to be filled and the way the they explained in the DC universe someone worse than the joker will rise up and he/she may have powers
@@scattershotjd9823 And I highly doubt the Bach family has the capabilities to take on people worser than the joker or even with superpowers hell that power vacuum might draw darkseid to Gotham Bush never became a hero because it draws villains create a power backing that causes a Domino fic where people go through so much miseries that they become villains to destruct hes extreme level of order because everything needs to be in balance
@@dedsecdefalt7888 He did though. He simultaneously lost and won. He can never hurt anyone again, but he broke the Batfamily and made a killer out of Jason, his self proclaimed greatest achievement.
Honestly, what's the point of Batman's whole existence at this point. DC and the Fandom have wrapped the Joker in such a weird state of "Immunity" that just leaving him to do whatever he wants is somehow the best option. By DC logic, killing the joker somehow makes all heroes into unstoppable mass murderers and somehow makes 58 different new jokers pop up because reasons. Gotham and Bat Family dont really do anything except give him a slap on the wrist and put him in a 3* motel for a week until he goes and does whatever we wants do again. Like I can't truly imagine any other villian going "If you kill me, i win" and the hero going "Well shit, can't argue with that, have a nice day killing hundreds of people".
It is flawed, but it's one of the reasons Joker is so good as a villain. Let him live, you lose. Kill him, you win but also lose. It creates some great storylines where you can really get into the flaws and psyche of Batman and his relationship with the Joker. The golden rule is generally the Joker and Batman are tied. If one dies, the other wins..... but they also lose. Batman faces the moral dilemma of whether he can kill more, and Joker defeats Batman but loses his source of...everything.
@@auberginemanproductions1608 i see it less as Joker being a great villian and more as Batman being a horrible fit for Gotham and gotham just being crappy in general
Batman is gay for Joker at this point, Joker could even eventually do something so tragic, Batman would probably wouldn't give two shits about it. The longer he lives the more he can get creative with his killings, for all we know his killing joke would be a homemade hydrogen bomb in the middle of Gotham. It also doesn't make sense how Batman is a afraid to kill, since even in human standards like the military does that shit in a somewhat basis in missions. You either kill him and spare Gotham as a whole, or keep him alive so he can eventually destroy Gotham at any given time.
That’s why joker is a Batman villain and not someone like the punisher, or hell even Spider-Man. It works, strangely..Any other sane person would have put him down ages ago. Only reason he’s still alive is because of Batman’s moral code, and since Joker knows he will never break it, he can pretty much do anything, and no one can take action, because Batman will come to save him, joker uses Batman like a bitch.
@ATrain Joker is too skilled, feared, and just down right profitable for DC to be killed of by a non-name. And even if the 1 in a million chance comes up where a police officer *could* potientially kill him with no cosmic reprecussions imposed by the author, batman has saved Joker from a police officer looking to try and off Joker on their own before. So there's no possible way for any other singular individual to do it. The legal system doesnt work because Joker has been written to be extremely powerful financially, not to mention threatning, so he can easily poof a lawyer into existence to defend him via insanity plea or whatever else being neccessary, so he'll just get shipped to arkham asylum for his 3 week vacation where he'll brake again and go right back to his usual schedule. But anyways, its been 9 months since I've made that comment, and im a bit more knowledgable on the situation, and it honestly doesnt make sense to argue about it. Batman is too mentally unhinged/compromised to pull it off, and Joker is just too popular to be stopped in any permanent or even semi-permanent way, so there's no use arguing. Any place that he could be put in for isolation/jailing will be broken out of, any cure for his insanity will be quickly reversed and even death is a minor hindrance via lazarus pits/whatever uncurable joker toxin he can stuff in himself to make a perfect copy on death that is impossible to be avoided or stopped, even by the great intellectual that is batman. So yeah, its really a worthless argument to have, hope you have a good one.
If we're putting things into perspective. Gordon is not sad at Joker's death, he's disappointed that Jason (or whoever he assumes killed Joker) stooped so low as to kill him execution style. Barbera is possibly sad for a similar reason, but she may not actually be sad, they may be tears of joy. The morgue attendants don't seem to be emotionally affected, but if anything, they're probably shocked to see Joker's body being the one cremated. Lex Luthor views Joker as a valuable asset, so losing that is upsetting, but this is probably more akin to losing a large sum of wealth or a valuable trinket, not so much losing Joker the person. Harley Quinn is probably the only person genuinely sad at Joker's death and this is solely because her mind was completely manipulated into being sympathetic for the sick bastard. But again, as the audience it's weird that this is treated so somberly, considering who Joker is and what he's done.
Luthor would have to find someone just as psychotic to keep Batman occupied. Harley would be a deranged killer in this timeline. No Joker to hold her back means she'll be just as dangerous as he was.
I would just add this. Barbara's reaction is probably one part catharsis and two parts reliving trauma. Hearing that the man that crippled her haf been killed would be an overwhelming mix of relief, replaying of bad memories, and then potentially being sad that Jason went so far as to kill (if she infers that it was him). Any sane person would react as she did.
Something to add. Yes, despite everything and despite what we know of Joker, Batman and Joker are basically two sides of the same corroded coin. While one stands for liberty, vengeance, and second chances as well as new lease on life, the other represents carnage, chaos, death, and destruction. But that's what made Joker so compelling to watch. Because, despite it all, we knew that Batman would stop him. He would never kill him because of two reasons. One, Batman is already teetering on the edge of insanity. To quote him "If I go down that road...I wouldn't be able to come back." Batman knows if he was to kill Joker, what's stopping him at one? He would basically be no better then Deathstroke in this regard, but instead of killing for cash, he would kill for justice. And that's not Batman. Second, this is what Joker always wanted. Every single thing he does is to basically taunt and goaded the Batman into killing him because, should he go threw with it, the Joker wins and has the last laugh for creating what could be a far worse monster then himself. But then...Batman dies. What then? Who is to be the Yin to Jokers Yang? This is where Red hood comes in. Yes, in many regards Gotham would herald him an unsung hero. After all, he just put down a man who basically has been nothing but a detriment to society. But the question is, what then? Jason killed Joker and...then what? Does he retire and leave forever knowing Batman can rest in peace despite him breaking the no killing rule? Does he continue the mantel of Red Hood and becomes a hitman for the scum of Gotham? And how long until Jason realizes that no matter how many bullets it takes, you can't just kill crime or evil? Would he be so far gone that Gotham would fear him and claim he's just a mass murderer? Would he turn into a new crime boss under the guise of cleaning up Gotham? By Jason killing Joker, he has basically filled in the roll that Batman never wanted filled and never wanted for Jason. A martyr. I think that's why Gordon looked so sad and why Barbra was crying. Gordon knows that whoever did in Joker most likely did it under good intentions but does that justify the means? As a man and father, I'm sure he has nothing but respect for the asssliant. But as a cop...it's far different. Because now he knows if he runs into the killer, he would have to try to take him in. And that wouldn't be fair...but it's what the law would want. And I'm sure Barbra is happy to see Joker 86d but...if Jason did do it...well she's more upset at what could happen to Jason and more worried for him. And yeah, he messed up but he's still family inn some aspect. As for Harley Quinn...Joker is dead. And Harley has such a broken and twisted psychie that I'm sure this would drive her over the edge and would probably turn her into the new Joker, or maybe even a Queen of Hearts. I think she would continue doing what Joker did, but it would be pure unrestrained chaos to the point of psudo nihilism. After all, Gotham took away her 'puddin'. Joker freed her and made her who she was...and now, Gotham is gonna pay in blood for what they had done. And where Joker would leave the world laughing and dying...Harley would leave it in tears and despair.
we're not sad the joker is dead, we're sad because of what joker's death means. Jason crossed _The_ line. No matter how much joker deserves to die, killing him is the bridge to far, the step you don't come back from.
I understand Batman's rule, but the Joker time and time again showed he was the exception. Each robin eventually graduated and in ways surpassed Bruce and this was Jason's moment.
Batman doesn't kill because that is the one line he thinks there's no coming back from, once you're a killer, then you're a killer. He admits that he does want to kill Joker but holds himself back from doing so because he doesn't want to be a killer like Joker or the guy that killed his parents. However, in my opinion, there are times when killing a villain is completely justifiable, Joker has killed ALOT of people and will never stop, Darkseid will always be a threat until someone finishes him, Doomsday will always be a threat. There is no saving or redeeming these guys and sometimes Superman or someone has had to kill them to stop them. Heroes certainly should not kill to solve their problems, only if there is no realistic alternative do you take that final step.
All the so called hero’s reactions to the Joker’s death is hilarious. They’re acting like he’s an old friend that they failed to save from a mass murderer or something.
I think the thing they're going for isn't Joker is dead, boo-hoo, it's that Jason became a wanted murderer. The problem with it is … didn't Jason become a murderer during the events of Under the Red Hood and associated comics? How's that not count? Not that comic writers know the details of these things generally, but technically in the DCUA film at least we never _saw_ Jason murder someone in UtRH. We saw him announce his presence and then get shot at, making a fair case for self-defense. But by comic logic that doesn't fly, and I still don't buy it. Mr. J is not the first body Jason's left the GCPD, even if he later rejoined the bat family. Yeah, but Jason straight up murdered Joker here. Executed him in cold blood. Can't argue with that, except even the good cops in Gotham aren't squeaky clean and the entire city's got reason to want Joker dead. So sure, replace a little evidence … Strange, this bullet wasn't fired from the gun Red Hood was using elsewhere. Like it was a fresh gun for just this one shot. Probably in the Gotham River by now. We know Red Hood did it? Maybe you know that, but … I can't prove it with this evidence, especially since the entire town wanted the clown dead.
Not quite, in every iteration he either cheats death somehow via super science OR he has a copycat killer since so many small time criminals revere him. They may not ever be as vile or smart as him but a dangerous lunatic with a cause is still that a dangerous friggin lunatic.
"You become just as bad as he is by killing him" "You did it first when you spared him and let him kill much MUCH more than I just did. You let people die because you couldn't kill one. I saved God knows how many because I killed one."
To be fair, the fact that Gordon has never gone to a judge to authorize lethal force against a lot of the Rogue's is pretty much a slam-dunk criminal negligence case, but after Gordon's out, who else is gonna take the job? Gotham is just THAT messed up.
I REALLY like how Joker didn't die with a smile on his face. He doesn't deserve a happy ending. He was shocked that the very thing he helped create, ended his life. A fitting end. Jason understands that to preserve life he must throw away his moral compass. He knows what's needed to keep the people of Gotham safe. A true hero in my opinion.
All those People that Joker has Kill are NOT people, but IF they are people? Why they keep living in Gotham and continue to suffer by the Villain? or better yet, How come Gotham continue Developing City unlike every other city in comic, game, animation?
You have to realize that only criminals have money in gotham. Civilians, can't leave gotham because they can't afford it. Plus, even if they did move cities, who would accept them? Id they apply for work and their interviewer sees where there from they'd most likely not get the job(Most in gotham are criminals or have a criminal record). Also, the rich people pore money into gotham. Although, if this was real, the joker would have already been killed(By police, death sentence, or rando).
@@Phantom9587 what do you mean by 'people that joker has killed are not people'? for why they keep living in gotham, it's because they have no choice. new jercey is a real life shithole but people keep living there because they have no choice. gotham keeps developing because of the 1% of rich people that live there and also because it's fictional. gotham's development has nothing to do with joker. i can't believe there are people that defends joker even if he does irredeemable shit like blowing hospitals up and burning orphanages down. i know that the joker has an immature and edgy preteen autist fandom but damn, this is grade A retardation
@@frecklenuckle4450 That the crazyJoke about it, If Joker kills sooooo many over the years then how come to the number population in Gotham still the same? also how come the people don't act afraid living in that curse where they could be killed any second and I'm pretty sure it not because of the Bat-family is there to protect them. Also for the type of peoples that have no choice but to live there is easily been replace? Joker Know That Gotham is nothing but a Sick Joke Of a City
He shot Barbara crippled her nothing happen killed Jason nothing happened, talked to shit to Jason and got killed he probably thought Jason was still boy wonder had this been t or dick joker be alive but Jason he picked the right one
@@equarg In one of the comics it is revealed, that the Joker has cosmic awareness. He knows, that he is a fictional character, and for as long as he is popular he cannot truly die.
I love how everybody's acting like it's a terrible and horrible thing, literally everybody besides Bruce and Harley would be partying, not even other villains liked the joker.
my question is, why everyone seem sad about it. i understand batgirl, she was traumatized by him, so she felt relieved and also quinn cause she loved him. by why the rest is sad about it.
@@egge6145 i see your point and also let us not forget that they wouldnt kill him (maybe except for luthor) cause of their moral code (looking at you batman), but red hood just said "screw it" and done it. Which is why i think he is such a great character.
This goes to show that Jason is the most sensible person in Gotham. Literally just got rid of the biggest threat. Also shows how ungrateful everyone else is they rather have the Joker alive
This is what Batman never understood: Men get arrested; rabid dogs get put down. Had he known that distinction earlier, Barbara would still be walking and Jason wouldn't be a ruthless and borderline crazed vigilante...and about a few thousand people would still be alive. Instead, he chose to stick to his principles no matter how many of his friends and loved ones got to suffer because of it -- because of his unwillingness to take action. Batman may have achieved the moral victory but he still lost the war and now he has to live with his failures, knowing he could've prevented them all had he just learned to draw a line in the sand and say "enough is enough".
@@kemp9842 And it isn't. But that's the thing: Batman always cared more about proving how better he is than the Joker, even if it means letting innocent people suffer because of his refusal to kill him no matter what. Look no further than in Batman: Hush if you need proof of that: one of the few times where even Batman's finally had enough of Joker's bullshit and decided to kill him, the only reason he didn't do it was because Gordon told him if he did that, he'd be no better than all those crazed psychos over at Arkham...because in his mind, killing a mass-murdering psychopath like the Joker makes you no better than him even though you're killing him in order to stop him from hurting any more innocent people and because Gotham's penal system is too corrupt and negligent to take care of him itself. Never mind that in the story Batman: Devil's Advocate, the one time Gotham finally decided to put the Joker on death row, Batman wrecked everything because he found out the Joker was actually innocent of the crime and that nobody, not even Gordon -- ironically -- wanted to believe him until he finally found the proof he needed to save the Joker instead of just letting him die at no cost to himself. And let's not talk about that one time Batman decided to stop the freaking Punisher of all people from killing Joker... So yeah, it's safe to say the man's moral compass is just as broken as the Joker's sanity.
@@kemp9842 Your damn right he ain`t, and i think he knows it too. I remember him saying sometime along the line like "Deep down Clark is a good person, and deep down i`m not". Here`s the deal Superman generally doesn`t kill, he will exhaust every freaking other option in order not to do so... but the simple fact he CAN be pushed to kill (and even has done so before technically in comics) is ironically the reason why he is a good person. Fact is, Supes will do anything and everything to protect the innocent or loved ones when it absolutely comes down to it, no matter what. Because to him innocent lives are the most important. Batman however, has proven that there is absolutely nothing that goes above his rule, at the cost of other people.
Gotham: please help! our criminals are out of control! also Gotham: no! don't kill them! think of the criminals! at that point, they're asking for homicidal psych-clowns to terrorize them
For anyone wondering Why Harley Quinzel isn't Harley Quinn. The reason is complex but let me explain See death in the family happened in 1988. 2 years after Barbra was paralyzed by the joker Harley Quinn didn't appear for the first time until 1993 This movie takes place (in comic logic) in the early 90's so Harley had fallen in love with the Joker but hadn't had the time yet to fully commit to becoming a supervillain
Barbara Gordon would never shed a tear for the man who violated and crippled her unless it was only because she didn't get to bring him to justice first.
The main issue is that by convincing Red Hood to solve 'The Joker' problem by murdering him, The Joker proved that his way of thinking was correct and that Gordan and Wayne's philosophy had failed. The potential ripple effects of this decision on the future of Gotham City cannot be understated.
They traded one psyco killer for another. Jason will go on a killing spree like the joker did, while it may be criminals and villains killed. It's no different than when the joker was killing people. Murder is in the name of the murder, the body count will continue to rise and the bat family has to hunt one of their own now.
@@Baldeagle-tw2nv Not to mention that Red Hood was already going on a killing spree in the name of vigilante justice. This absolutely tanks the already shaky credibility of the Gotham authorities and could push the city to the brink of anarchy.
DC actually demonstrated well in the Injustice series. When superheroes kill, the difference between justice and evil is DIMINISHED. Because to the normal people like us, superheroes or villains are both monsters who threatenen the humankind. The only way superheroes can convince the weak that they are the GOOD people, is by the CODE. When they cross the line, it's the end for us.
Since people are asking why everyone's sad about Joker, my theory is that some could be sad for Jason. You gotta remember: What he did was a pretty ballsy move and it could haunt him for the rest of his life that *he* was the one who killed Joker, in the most wrong way possible. Imagine if Batman killed Joker in The Dark Knight. That would mean they would lose and Joker would win regardless, except that would mean even worse since that movie's so deep! P.S: Now I don't really know what kinda sick, twisted plot would have Batman dead and Joker alive, before he is also killed, but *damn* do I not enjoy the Joker dying part! Lol
Joker won. No matter what happened to him he would always win. He turned Jason into a killer. He succeeded in life, joker never wanted to die to no one.
@@cratwane yes your right since he’s dead he can’t terrorize anymore but that’s mainly the reason why Batman kept him alive. Because he knew that if he were to kill joker, it would give joker exactly what he wanted. Therefor making J win.
@@thickwizardfingers4764 no he lost jokers sole goal was to die by Batmans hands. Tarnishing his moral code as a result,but Batman didn't die by Bats' hands and he didn't break bis moral code so he lost even after everything he did
The Joker is dead. murder rates in Gotham City have greatly decreased *Sad music plays* Such a tragedy. the streets of the city have become safe... too safe... who will kill innocent people now?
@@marseldagistani1989 why don't we fire incompetent cops and hire real cops then?? why don't we start arming ourselves and just shoot those villains, case close.
Cuz everyone was robbed of the one thing they wanted.......Justice. Jason killed Joker out of revenge. He was Judge, Jury, and Executioner. While at the same time there's this feeling that the Jason Todd everyone knew is Gone and is never coming back
Here's a stupid question: Why not do to Joker what Mr. Freeze did to his wife? It isn't killing him, so Batman doesn't break his one rule, and it will save countless lives! Unless of course some dumbass wakes him up.
That would make things even worse. Cryogenic freeze didn't stop another very evil man who not only did things worse but even 400+ years after his initial reign of terror pretty much banned genetic engineering in nearly all cases for almost any reason and his name inspired fear long after his death. I'm talking about Star Trek's own, Khan Noonien Singh. The baddest of the bad in that franchise. I'd think cryogenically freezing Joker would have a similar outcome to Khan's.
To everyone asking why people are sad: It's not because Joker is dead that everyone is sad. It's that Jason finally became exactly what the Joker wanted him to be and by killing the Joker, he got the last laugh. Jason is just another killer in Gotham now, but he could have been so much more if he hadn't given in to his rage.
@@belias360 another hero who tries to save the joker instead of just killing him. I think you keep forgetting that Batman has tried to rehabilitate Joker numerous times. It’s not that Batman is choosing his principles over human lives, if he were to kill the joker then he would the rest of his big name rogues gallery like bane and ra’s al ghoul, then scarecrow and killer croc, then poison ivy and Harley Quinn, then he would start killing anybody who disagrees with him. He literally can’t kill the joker because that line is too easy to cross and he knows he crosses it he can’t stop.
Except Jason had already killed a crapload of gangsters IN THIS VERY MOVIE, killing the joker doesn’t make him a true killer, Joker was just the latest body to drop at Jason’s hand, and since it’s the end of Jason’s revenge, probably one of the last. Batman and Red Hood are not the same in terms of morality, Batman can’t kill because he knows he can’t stop if he starts, but Jason doesn’t have that same pitfall, because Jason isn’t a symbol like Batman, he’s already in the grey and is comfortable there.
@@shindj2382 The hell with rehabilitation. Joker doesn’t want help. He’s beyond broken, he’s shattered into dust. All he wants is to spread as much misery and pain as possible so that the world can feel as empty and alone and dead as he is on the inside. He won’t be helped by doctors because he thinks they’re a joke. He can’t be sent to prison or death because the legal system is broken. So he’ll keep breaking out and killing again and again and again, leaving more people dead, more families to grieve lost loved ones. It will never end for Joker because he thinks he’s proving some philosophical point about the world being crazy. He cannot and will not be reasoned with. You can’t cure a rabid dog. Sometimes, the only mercy you can offer for the dog and the people it puts in danger is to take it out back and put it out of its misery. The Joker is such a creature. The only way to help him is to end his miserable life, and Jason did just that.
Joker: "Kill me, let me live, either way, I WIN AND YOU. STILL. LOSE." Red Hood: "readies gun" Joker:😈 Red Hood: *smirks* "I may lose......but at least no one else will." Joker:😓 *BANG*
I can see Harley being sad, but nobody else would be sad that someone finally killed Joker. Mathematically speaking, Batman should have killed Joker decades ago.
I know it implies sadness and the joker wining but I see it a different way sure they all are sad that he crossed the line and killed the joker and yes the joker wanted him to do it but from that Jason probably saved countless lives and misery by killing the joker I don't think this action made him worse or about the same as the joker I think he showed initiative
It could be seen as that. But we also need to remember that Jason took the law into his own hands in the worst way possible. It show not only that Joker was right, but also prove his point further that Jason will be a worst version of Batman AND Joker. Thr bullet to his brain may save lives and avenge many. But it also could be seen as a preview of what will come. At least, that what this scean is supposedly showing.
@@doctorwho3708 it could be argued self-defense, imagine a man was about to set off a bomb and kill people, he directly is not about to kill you but the resulting blast could, in that scenario are you allowed to take his life if thats the only choice? were talking about joker here, its not a question of if he will kill when hes free its a question of how many people will die, so i would argue that jason acted in self-defense
If joker dies doesn’t that always leave someone else to take his place? I mean look at what happened to Superman after he killed Joker, or even the Batman who laughs
Even though he was clearly shocked, I think that deep down he was happy with this outcome. This is literally what he lives to do and it’s just cause nothing but pure chaos. And that’s definitely what this killing likely would’ve done no matter what.
I don't think it's an emotional send off to the Joker. It's... more a moment of processing that.. he's gone. A constant in Gotham is no more. The Gorden's crying because they no longer have to worry about that monster, Batman contemplating his life and his methods, Harley... well... processing that her puddin' laughed his last. It's not an emotional send off by everyone. It's just that they're coming to terms with it.
So sad if only Batman was there to stop Jason. Joker deserves it though. For some reason I thought Barbra would be very happy but instead she cried??? Joker shot her in the spine!
Gordon: Barb sweetie, I have some terrible news. The man who shot you and crippled you for life is . . .is . . . is dead. Barbara: No! Daddy, say it isn't true! Bruce: Damnit! Now what am I going to do? My staple justification for vigilantism is gone! What am I going to do now? Alfred: May I suggest, Master Bruce. That you use this as an opportunity to give up the cowl. Using your family's status improve Gotham by legal means and progressive socio-economic reform. And maybe some therapy? Bruce: Alfred, SHUT THE F%^K UP!
that is what the Dark Knight Rises Alfred would do.. he said the same thing and dreams that before he retires, he sees Bruce Wayne is settled down having a family..
That part where Barbara embraces her father in relieved tears because the monster who took her legs and tortured her father is finally dead? That's a gift Bruce will never be able to give her
Joker: "Do you recall what you said to me while I was breaking your head in with that crowbar? " 'Please, Stop! Please' 'If you let me live, I'll do anything you say' 'I'll be YOUR ROBIN' "And look at you now my little 'Red Hood'. Shooting up people and making Batman's life miserable. You are MY Robin!"
*Jason shoots Joker, Barbara throws a batarang while trying to stop him but misses. Joker lays dead on the floor with his brains out* Jason: I hope this was the right one
I mean, anyone in Gotham with some sense would've scheduled Joker for the chair the first time he got in Arkham, if not the second. By the thirtieth time, the fact that there wasn't an immediate execution upon capture was baffling, let alone the military stepping in and sending a team after the guy while he's not in jail since he's the worlds most successful domestic terrorist. TLDR: Finally someone did it.
The crazy thing is. If you kill him you let him win. That everyone has a dark side and everyone is just as crazy as him. If you let him live he continues doing what he loves. Joker is the best villain I have ever seen.
Despite Joker's rhetoric, his death isn't a victory for him. He doesn't get to kill or corrupt anyone else. He's been stopped, permanently. His death is the end of his chaos and the reassertion of order. And frankly, the fact that killing him makes you as crazy as him is a load of nonsense. Joker killed thousands with a smile on his face and a song in his heart. He filled graveyards with his victims. By killing him, Jason saved every one of Joker's future victims. In this instance, killing ironically becomes a life-affirming act.
@@kemp9842 but it’s proving his point to Batman. That’s his whole existence. Yah Jason saved thousands but he proved joker right. He proved that with a push people can kill and everyone has a primitive instinct to kill
@@pancakepotato1953 Then that's a dumb point to make. He's pointing out something that's part of human nature; it's like pointing out that the sun rises in the East and sets in the West. He's like the annoying hipster trying to be deep, but has only an elementary schooler's grasp of morality.
@@kemp9842 tell him that not me. And tell Batman that also since he thinks everyone is good and has a chance to be good. I’m just saying what joker stated
Lol why is everyone sad ? Joker just killed and tortured people for shits and giggles so that Batman can caught his attention. Jason did the right thing.
,,You get what you fucking deserve" Jason should get praised,someone finally got some balls to end Jokers infinite loop of violence and suffering that he created. Kill one to safe many.
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Meanwhile average life expectancy has gone up drastically in Gotham City.
Facts
I don't why everyone is sad about it because Joker was in Arkham hundreds of times. Haven't DC ever heard of a death penalty used by courts?
@DoubleFailMech Really?
@@christiansnaturestudio6599 Well, can't say the same for every continuity, but I believe this was addressed at one point in comics, and it was Bruce Wayne who opted for Gotham to NOT have the death penalty.
Not in China
Love how joker gets more of an emotional send off than the literal hundreds to thousands of people he's killed over his life time as a villain.
Really puts into perspective the detachment people feel towards strangers.
I noticed that too.
It's like Joker's line in Dark Knight:
"If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a gang banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics, because it's all 'part of the plan'. But when I say that one little old mayor will die, well then everyone loses their minds!"
Joker going on a killing spree or torturing a few innocents is "part of the plan", it's the status quo he's built in Gotham. But the moment when that status quo changes, when the most notorious man in all of Gotham finally bites the dust, and for once, a vigilante "hero" claims a life, no one can cope with it. It's less out of sorrow for the death of Joker and more out of emotional attachment to how things were before the plot twist.
@@takeoverurmemes It's just a somber reflection on how things have changed from the perspective of the characters, but the civilians who have lost friends and family receive precious little attention.
@@takeoverurmemes thats sick
Ordinary PeePoo That’s how life is, unfortunately.
Batman: Jason took so many lives......
Gotham Citizens: Redhood saved so many lives!!!
After seeing the Harley Quinn series, and how many people are slaughtered on a daily basis (zombies, parademons, etc), you have to wonder how insane you have to be to live in Gotham. I don't care if they Do have rental control.....
@@maskedmarvyl4774That series isn't mean to take seriously, it's a parody/satire
Way more lives than Bruce himself ever saved
I agree with Jason's decision to kill the Joker.
Batman's decision could only be accepted after he killed the Joker in Dark Knight Returns
I have always wanted to see this moment happen. The Joker really deserved it.
He didn't deserve it
Not he did not
Cierra tu jeta
He has murdered many innocent people. Obviously he had to die to pay for all of the lives he took away. If you dont agree with me then you can respectfully go f urselves :)
"the killer will be killed" that is just karma in action, that is just the way things should be.
@@gaviriak no
Red Hood: "You get what you f*cking deserve!"
Joker: "Like I haven't heard of tha-"
*bang*
Clean and simple. The world has one less raging criminal now. Many lives have been saved.
Believe it or not, The joker won
@@dedsecdefalt7888 and many more criminals see an open space on top to take and may have kill many more to reach.
Kill one, tens more pop.
That why we call it a temepaory and impractical solution.
It not as effective you think.
Killing sjould be use as a last resort and not able to capture the criminal. Not a go to on site.
@@doctorwho3708 He was captured, probably, a hundred times over, and it didn't stop him. Every day he kills innocents, and never gets really punished for it. This is what he deserves. Justice. Single death to prevent hundreds lost souls. What batman shows him everyday is mercy, and it's super naive. Joker doesn't deserve mercy.
And if anyone takes his place - we don't know. Letting him live and continue his madness simply because there are others like him is wierd argument. In fact, fear of punishment will make those others think again.
@@doctorwho3708
Redhood's plan>>>>> batman's plan
Sure more villains will pop up and not because they want to take over Gotham now that joker is dead. D.C just loves introducing criminals. Jason takes out the worst criminals before he takes out some random thug. It is pretty effective. If batman in the original movie didnt interfere with Jason's plan Gotham would 5x safer. He was running the city with fear just like batman but different. Instead of taking down gangs he was making them work for him which is hella smart. I'd take Jason's way of running Gotham over Bruce's anyday
Ngl, if I was the autopsy doctor I wouldn't even have stood near the corpse out of fear the Joker was faking it.
*enters autopsy room with a ten foot pole*
*Endgame Joker flashbacks of Gordon shooting joker right through the heart and he rises right back up with an axe*
Truth
Dylan Bridgewater to be fair,he DID a bullet hole through his skull...don't see how that would be fakable...a whole bullet hole,not just some kind of wound
@@ethanmcdowell1164 He probably would've planted a fake body.
Joker torments and kills countless people: Nobody bats an eye.
Jason kills the Joker: *HOW DARE YOU?!*
Because it's all part of the plan
@@jamesricker3997 True
*High Councilor thumbs up *
Why has Joker never gotten the electric chair? Genuinely curious. He's an irredeemable monster.
because he's an essential character in a comic book lol
Aside from plotarmor, psychiatrists from all over the world usually call dibs on him to study his unique case rather than have the authorities kill him. That or he breaks free in time or Batman rushes in with his autism and saves him
Insanity plea.
Probably wen ever they tried doing that he'd pull a little prank and get away
He always escapes
With how much shit Joker's put Gotham though, wouldn't Jason be getting an unofficial parade, a large stack of cash, and a hug from Barbra?
Don't think so, it's likely Barbra doesn't want to see Jason because he just break the rules for killing bad people, he's probably no longer the bat family and he just break Batman's promise to not kill joker
Are you crazy? Joker is supposed to be the ultimate murderer: no one can stop him.
Therefore, this is buchitt !
@@peposo7 don't worry from what I can recall this movie has Alternet scenes and this is one of them
@@bonedaddy1729 Phew. What a relief. Our true hero can never be defeated by a failed robin!
Considering that the only person in tears for that monster is Harleen, and Jason is currently a criminal (having gone killing without even REALIZING IT, staining the cowl and mantle of Robin with blood)? Yeah, it's somber because Jason broke Batman's code (though he didn't say I promise before Bruce died...) And Gordon has to follow the law, even though part of him REALLY wants to celebrate the death of an irredeemable sociopath who crippled his daughter and terrorized Gotham for years...
The only reason Barbara cried is because Jason cemented (at the time) himself as a criminal with the prior killings and Joker's death, while relieving, meant that Jason broke that promise.
I like Joker despite all his taunting had a shocked expression on his face after he was shot. He didn’t actually think Red Hood would do it...
i think joker did know. after all, he did help to create him
When you die your muscles relax. Though realistically he should just be half a head, they call it getting your head blown off for a reason lol.
I think he was so used to taunting Batman to make him kill him but Batman never crossed that line that’s why joker was obsessed with him and when he taunted Jason, Jason was ready to cross that line
@@jaredboron2793 joker said that what he was doing isn't what batman does. so no. joker knows he isnt taunting batman, or see batman in him
@@joehill4094 Cleary you haven't seen someone get shot in the head have you?
why is everyone sad that the joker died and they aren’t celebrating everyone is literally frowning like they miss him
ikr
I think it’s more that Jason finally crossed the line.
they are sad because jason broke the rule not that joker is dead now they have to chase him and arrest him he may did the right thing but hes an outlaw now
Their vigilantes too so cops should chase them as much as Jason they don't have any special permission to be crime fighters Batman and Barbra commit crimes everyday even if they don't kill.
It's cause Joker won since he got Jason to cross the line that the Batfamily doesn't cross
Jason: "Good riddance."
Batman: "NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!"
Lex: "Eh."
No. Lex was actually upset. Mist people don't know this, but Lex sees Joker as himself if he ever truly lost control fighting Superman and wanting to screw up everything in his life. With him dead now, he can bury that part of himself.
@@KidGravityBeyond really?
Why the hell is everyone sad, in the end I would have thrown a party and everyone in Gotham is invited. Yes even others villians as well.
Yea me too but i think we all know why Batman got upset with it
@@promesdiallo2002 if I remember (I could be wrong) that's not Bruce that is Dick Grayson in the cowl and Bruce's last wish to Jason before he died was to not kill joker
@@sombreroguy4859 so that also means that the council Will not Grand Jason the Jedi master rol
@@promesdiallo2002 Indeed
Cause Joker won.
His death didn't mean he lost. It mean he was right and he won.
Sad how the Joker was given an emotional sendoff like his death was a tragedy. Please... if Jason did that I'd throw the dude a party.
Yeah he did what anyone else unable do, and he avange and save many lives in the process.
@@habibpines Well thing is, this leads down the idea that if joker dies he leaves behind more madness in his wake then alive. in the beyond series his death leads to multiple gangs and the near total destruction of Gotham and it can never be reborn. Joker if he dies becomes a symbol more powerful then the bat. I personally think Jason goes on to be the next Azrael type figure that in good intentions poisons the same people the hope to protect. Leading to a pure anti villian. It happens a lot in redemption stories. Sure joker is gone but his legacy is more powerful then anything else
@@TheDarkmasterchumble No because the whole stopping to Jokers level thing has always been stupid. If you're killing someone to stop them from hurting or killing an innocent person then it's justified. Batman's no kill rule is just a cowards way out. That's his way of dealing with the fact that him and the GCPD as well as the Gotham court system has the blood of every person Joker has killed on their hands. By refusing to stop him when they had the chance they allowed Joker to continue killing innocent people. Ironically, Jason in this moment was more committed to actual justice than Batman, the police and the law.
Joker's win, but he still he died so he can't hurt more innocents. People outside comic realm will be glad.
@@habibpines injustice kinda shows that's not true
Joker: Gives emotional speech to Red Hood
Red Hood: Your free trial of life has now ended
"And then the Joker decided to commit suicide by shooting himself in the forehead. Weird." - Gordon, probably
"Yeah, sure is weird. Oh well." Every judge in the whole world, probably.
Everyone: What have you done?!
Jason: Saved countless lives.
And create many other killers and people believe life has no more value since the way the Earth is going and the people running Earth are destroying it All Jason did was created power vacuum which needs to be filled and the way the they explained in the DC universe someone worse than the joker will rise up and he/she may have powers
@@davidspearim5552 then they'll have to die to.
@@scattershotjd9823 And I highly doubt the Bach family has the capabilities to take on people worser than the joker or even with superpowers hell that power vacuum might draw darkseid to Gotham Bush never became a hero because it draws villains create a power backing that causes a Domino fic where people go through so much miseries that they become villains to destruct hes extreme level of order because everything needs to be in balance
@@scattershotjd9823 how many lives will have to die to keep Gotham "safe"
It's an endless cycle
@@davidspearim5552 well why not blow up Gotham with people evacuating without Gotham then the people would be safe I guess?
You know the second Gordon left those two officers he was with alone, they gave double high fives and cracked open a couple of cold ones.
Meanwhile, Gordon went to tell Barbara and couple of other pals the good news.
Meanwhile some idiots are commenting that the Joker "won"
@@dedsecdefalt7888 He did though. He simultaneously lost and won. He can never hurt anyone again, but he broke the Batfamily and made a killer out of Jason, his self proclaimed greatest achievement.
@@auberginemanproductions1608 His goal was to break Batman. He failed at that. He always knew no one else stood by the "no kill" rule.
@@auberginemanproductions1608 he didn’t win lol, he’s a pile of ashes while not turning Batman to the dark side.
The Joker usually goes down with a smile on his face, he definitely wasn’t expecting that
Honestly, what's the point of Batman's whole existence at this point. DC and the Fandom have wrapped the Joker in such a weird state of "Immunity" that just leaving him to do whatever he wants is somehow the best option.
By DC logic, killing the joker somehow makes all heroes into unstoppable mass murderers and somehow makes 58 different new jokers pop up because reasons. Gotham and Bat Family dont really do anything except give him a slap on the wrist and put him in a 3* motel for a week until he goes and does whatever we wants do again.
Like I can't truly imagine any other villian going "If you kill me, i win" and the hero going "Well shit, can't argue with that, have a nice day killing hundreds of people".
It is flawed, but it's one of the reasons Joker is so good as a villain. Let him live, you lose. Kill him, you win but also lose. It creates some great storylines where you can really get into the flaws and psyche of Batman and his relationship with the Joker. The golden rule is generally the Joker and Batman are tied. If one dies, the other wins..... but they also lose. Batman faces the moral dilemma of whether he can kill more, and Joker defeats Batman but loses his source of...everything.
@@auberginemanproductions1608 i see it less as Joker being a great villian and more as Batman being a horrible fit for Gotham and gotham just being crappy in general
Batman is gay for Joker at this point, Joker could even eventually do something so tragic, Batman would probably wouldn't give two shits about it. The longer he lives the more he can get creative with his killings, for all we know his killing joke would be a homemade hydrogen bomb in the middle of Gotham. It also doesn't make sense how Batman is a afraid to kill, since even in human standards like the military does that shit in a somewhat basis in missions. You either kill him and spare Gotham as a whole, or keep him alive so he can eventually destroy Gotham at any given time.
That’s why joker is a Batman villain and not someone like the punisher, or hell even Spider-Man. It works, strangely..Any other sane person would have put him down ages ago. Only reason he’s still alive is because of Batman’s moral code, and since Joker knows he will never break it, he can pretty much do anything, and no one can take action, because Batman will come to save him, joker uses Batman like a bitch.
@ATrain Joker is too skilled, feared, and just down right profitable for DC to be killed of by a non-name. And even if the 1 in a million chance comes up where a police officer *could* potientially kill him with no cosmic reprecussions imposed by the author, batman has saved Joker from a police officer looking to try and off Joker on their own before. So there's no possible way for any other singular individual to do it.
The legal system doesnt work because Joker has been written to be extremely powerful financially, not to mention threatning, so he can easily poof a lawyer into existence to defend him via insanity plea or whatever else being neccessary, so he'll just get shipped to arkham asylum for his 3 week vacation where he'll brake again and go right back to his usual schedule.
But anyways, its been 9 months since I've made that comment, and im a bit more knowledgable on the situation, and it honestly doesnt make sense to argue about it. Batman is too mentally unhinged/compromised to pull it off, and Joker is just too popular to be stopped in any permanent or even semi-permanent way, so there's no use arguing. Any place that he could be put in for isolation/jailing will be broken out of, any cure for his insanity will be quickly reversed and even death is a minor hindrance via lazarus pits/whatever uncurable joker toxin he can stuff in himself to make a perfect copy on death that is impossible to be avoided or stopped, even by the great intellectual that is batman. So yeah, its really a worthless argument to have, hope you have a good one.
If we're putting things into perspective.
Gordon is not sad at Joker's death, he's disappointed that Jason (or whoever he assumes killed Joker) stooped so low as to kill him execution style.
Barbera is possibly sad for a similar reason, but she may not actually be sad, they may be tears of joy.
The morgue attendants don't seem to be emotionally affected, but if anything, they're probably shocked to see Joker's body being the one cremated.
Lex Luthor views Joker as a valuable asset, so losing that is upsetting, but this is probably more akin to losing a large sum of wealth or a valuable trinket, not so much losing Joker the person.
Harley Quinn is probably the only person genuinely sad at Joker's death and this is solely because her mind was completely manipulated into being sympathetic for the sick bastard.
But again, as the audience it's weird that this is treated so somberly, considering who Joker is and what he's done.
Luthor would have to find someone just as psychotic to keep Batman occupied.
Harley would be a deranged killer in this timeline. No Joker to hold her back means she'll be just as dangerous as he was.
I would just add this. Barbara's reaction is probably one part catharsis and two parts reliving trauma. Hearing that the man that crippled her haf been killed would be an overwhelming mix of relief, replaying of bad memories, and then potentially being sad that Jason went so far as to kill (if she infers that it was him). Any sane person would react as she did.
Something to add.
Yes, despite everything and despite what we know of Joker, Batman and Joker are basically two sides of the same corroded coin. While one stands for liberty, vengeance, and second chances as well as new lease on life, the other represents carnage, chaos, death, and destruction. But that's what made Joker so compelling to watch. Because, despite it all, we knew that Batman would stop him. He would never kill him because of two reasons. One, Batman is already teetering on the edge of insanity. To quote him "If I go down that road...I wouldn't be able to come back." Batman knows if he was to kill Joker, what's stopping him at one? He would basically be no better then Deathstroke in this regard, but instead of killing for cash, he would kill for justice. And that's not Batman. Second, this is what Joker always wanted. Every single thing he does is to basically taunt and goaded the Batman into killing him because, should he go threw with it, the Joker wins and has the last laugh for creating what could be a far worse monster then himself.
But then...Batman dies. What then? Who is to be the Yin to Jokers Yang?
This is where Red hood comes in. Yes, in many regards Gotham would herald him an unsung hero. After all, he just put down a man who basically has been nothing but a detriment to society. But the question is, what then? Jason killed Joker and...then what? Does he retire and leave forever knowing Batman can rest in peace despite him breaking the no killing rule? Does he continue the mantel of Red Hood and becomes a hitman for the scum of Gotham? And how long until Jason realizes that no matter how many bullets it takes, you can't just kill crime or evil? Would he be so far gone that Gotham would fear him and claim he's just a mass murderer? Would he turn into a new crime boss under the guise of cleaning up Gotham? By Jason killing Joker, he has basically filled in the roll that Batman never wanted filled and never wanted for Jason. A martyr.
I think that's why Gordon looked so sad and why Barbra was crying. Gordon knows that whoever did in Joker most likely did it under good intentions but does that justify the means? As a man and father, I'm sure he has nothing but respect for the asssliant. But as a cop...it's far different. Because now he knows if he runs into the killer, he would have to try to take him in. And that wouldn't be fair...but it's what the law would want. And I'm sure Barbra is happy to see Joker 86d but...if Jason did do it...well she's more upset at what could happen to Jason and more worried for him. And yeah, he messed up but he's still family inn some aspect.
As for Harley Quinn...Joker is dead. And Harley has such a broken and twisted psychie that I'm sure this would drive her over the edge and would probably turn her into the new Joker, or maybe even a Queen of Hearts. I think she would continue doing what Joker did, but it would be pure unrestrained chaos to the point of psudo nihilism. After all, Gotham took away her 'puddin'. Joker freed her and made her who she was...and now, Gotham is gonna pay in blood for what they had done. And where Joker would leave the world laughing and dying...Harley would leave it in tears and despair.
we're not sad the joker is dead, we're sad because of what joker's death means. Jason crossed _The_ line. No matter how much joker deserves to die, killing him is the bridge to far, the step you don't come back from.
@@dragonballandhonkaiimpact1022 imma need to retype this tho. Alot of spelling errors lol.
I understand Batman's rule, but the Joker time and time again showed he was the exception. Each robin eventually graduated and in ways surpassed Bruce and this was Jason's moment.
And his moment was ending a problem that’s been long overdue to fix. All thanks to Batman’s no kill rule that kept getting in the way.
Everyone should've realized that his rule SUCKED, the first second Joker escaped the asylum and killed even more people.
100% no killing is flawed just like 100% killing is flawed you need to use killing as a last resort in jokers case yeah cap the guy
@@LOVEPHOENIXDANCER Like Jason said, Joker isn't like Clayface, Ivy, Riddler, or Freeze. He's an unapologetic monster.
Batman doesn't kill because that is the one line he thinks there's no coming back from, once you're a killer, then you're a killer. He admits that he does want to kill Joker but holds himself back from doing so because he doesn't want to be a killer like Joker or the guy that killed his parents.
However, in my opinion, there are times when killing a villain is completely justifiable, Joker has killed ALOT of people and will never stop, Darkseid will always be a threat until someone finishes him, Doomsday will always be a threat. There is no saving or redeeming these guys and sometimes Superman or someone has had to kill them to stop them. Heroes certainly should not kill to solve their problems, only if there is no realistic alternative do you take that final step.
The most satisfying part of this is that when Joker finally gets what he deserves, he doesn't die with a grin on his face.
All the so called hero’s reactions to the Joker’s death is hilarious. They’re acting like he’s an old friend that they failed to save from a mass murderer or something.
I think the thing they're going for isn't Joker is dead, boo-hoo, it's that Jason became a wanted murderer. The problem with it is … didn't Jason become a murderer during the events of Under the Red Hood and associated comics? How's that not count?
Not that comic writers know the details of these things generally, but technically in the DCUA film at least we never _saw_ Jason murder someone in UtRH. We saw him announce his presence and then get shot at, making a fair case for self-defense. But by comic logic that doesn't fly, and I still don't buy it. Mr. J is not the first body Jason's left the GCPD, even if he later rejoined the bat family.
Yeah, but Jason straight up murdered Joker here. Executed him in cold blood. Can't argue with that, except even the good cops in Gotham aren't squeaky clean and the entire city's got reason to want Joker dead. So sure, replace a little evidence … Strange, this bullet wasn't fired from the gun Red Hood was using elsewhere. Like it was a fresh gun for just this one shot. Probably in the Gotham River by now. We know Red Hood did it? Maybe you know that, but … I can't prove it with this evidence, especially since the entire town wanted the clown dead.
Kill joker or let him live, he still wins no matter what but atleast he won't be able to hurt anyone ever again.
moral victories are for suckers, letting the joker live means you're complicit in every life he takes
Not quite, in every iteration he either cheats death somehow via super science OR he has a copycat killer since so many small time criminals revere him. They may not ever be as vile or smart as him but a dangerous lunatic with a cause is still that a dangerous friggin lunatic.
anyone who kill, its hard to return... and Joker know that. that his chemical/psychological "curse" - anyone who will kill him, will became like him.
Joker is actually afraid, afraid that he will be forgotten!
@@hyugalubbok7770 Wouldn't work on Jason, he'd leave the moment the bullet entered Joker's skull, plenty of confirmation.
"You become just as bad as he is by killing him"
"You did it first when you spared him and let him kill much MUCH more than I just did. You let people die because you couldn't kill one. I saved God knows how many because I killed one."
And he became a killer because of one
@@pingaspearce9403 he was alredy a killer
@Hunter Smith and who are you to know this? Can you bring dead to life ? Then why you are do easy judging who should die?
To be fair, the fact that Gordon has never gone to a judge to authorize lethal force against a lot of the Rogue's is pretty much a slam-dunk criminal negligence case, but after Gordon's out, who else is gonna take the job? Gotham is just THAT messed up.
@@TheSikerad so you’d really let a homicidal maniac who’s killed thousands with no intention to stop live? Don’t be stupid
I REALLY like how Joker didn't die with a smile on his face. He doesn't deserve a happy ending. He was shocked that the very thing he helped create, ended his life. A fitting end. Jason understands that to preserve life he must throw away his moral compass. He knows what's needed to keep the people of Gotham safe. A true hero in my opinion.
Joker: Shooottt ddadddyyyy!
*Red Hood shoots him*
Joker in hell: wait what I didn't know he actually did it : l
To be fair, Red Hood
Did the right thing with Joker
Its not the jedi way
@@promesdiallo2002 the Jedi way is never enough
well either way the joker wins in the end
@@promesdiallo2002 and the Jedi died...
@@peposo7 yea exactley (f*cking Anakin)
Joker: Kills tens of thousands of people throughout his life,
Red Hood kills the Joker
Everyone: sad uwu
All those People that Joker has Kill are NOT people, but IF they are people? Why they keep living in Gotham and continue to suffer by the Villain? or better yet, How come Gotham continue Developing City unlike every other city in comic, game, animation?
You have to realize that only criminals have money in gotham. Civilians, can't leave gotham because they can't afford it. Plus, even if they did move cities, who would accept them? Id they apply for work and their interviewer sees where there from they'd most likely not get the job(Most in gotham are criminals or have a criminal record). Also, the rich people pore money into gotham. Although, if this was real, the joker would have already been killed(By police, death sentence, or rando).
@@Phantom9587 what do you mean by 'people that joker has killed are not people'? for why they keep living in gotham, it's because they have no choice. new jercey is a real life shithole but people keep living there because they have no choice. gotham keeps developing because of the 1% of rich people that live there and also because it's fictional. gotham's development has nothing to do with joker.
i can't believe there are people that defends joker even if he does irredeemable shit like blowing hospitals up and burning orphanages down.
i know that the joker has an immature and edgy preteen autist fandom but damn, this is grade A retardation
@@frecklenuckle4450 That the crazyJoke about it, If Joker kills sooooo many over the years then how come to the number population in Gotham still the same? also how come the people don't act afraid living in that curse where they could be killed any second and I'm pretty sure it not because of the Bat-family is there to protect them.
Also for the type of peoples that have no choice but to live there is easily been replace? Joker Know That Gotham is nothing but a Sick Joke Of a City
@@Phantom9587 The answer to that would be the writer need to make the history pass in Gotham with victims.
It’s strange to see how Joker had a quite shocked face on his dead body. Looks like he genuinely didn’t expect that
He shot Barbara crippled her nothing happen killed Jason nothing happened, talked to shit to Jason and got killed he probably thought Jason was still boy wonder had this been t or dick joker be alive but Jason he picked the right one
For a man that never dies,
Joker sure does die a lot
The joker is a phoenix in disguise.
He can’t die.
He is banned from Heaven and the Devil has a restraining order against him.
@@equarg In one of the comics it is revealed, that the Joker has cosmic awareness. He knows, that he is a fictional character, and for as long as he is popular he cannot truly die.
I like how Alfred is comforting Batman when he finally closes the case on the Joker.
That was Dick Grayson as Batman
@@jaredwhittingham6478 he said Batman, not Bruce
@@Gabriel-rf1kf okay. Was just stating it in case he didn’t know, because not everyone knows.
Dark Knight Joker : Why so serious?
Red Hood Joker : Who’s your daddy?
Red Hood: Are you making this kinkier?
*Drops pants and reveals his second gun*
Red Hood: Cause I don't mind.
@@reinxraidenchannel9807 bro?
Joker: you get what you fucking deserve
I love how everybody's acting like it's a terrible and horrible thing, literally everybody besides Bruce and Harley would be partying, not even other villains liked the joker.
If Batman hadn't stopped The Punisher from killing Joker in a cross-over book the Red Hood wouldn't have had to do it.
my question is, why everyone seem sad about it. i understand batgirl, she was traumatized by him, so she felt relieved and also quinn cause she loved him. by why the rest is sad about it.
everyone who was seen in this clip wanted to get revenge on the joker, with red hood being the judge, jury and executioner they feel robbed of justice
@@egge6145 i see your point and also let us not forget that they wouldnt kill him (maybe except for luthor) cause of their moral code (looking at you batman), but red hood just said "screw it" and done it. Which is why i think he is such a great character.
And I was wondering was that Lex?
@@SlyJesterG4ming I believe red hood knows efficiency gets results
@@SlyJesterG4ming Jason/Red Hood: Not the Batman we needed, but the Batman we deserved!
Kinda weird to see Harleen Quinzel here. You’d think given the timeframe she’d be Harley by now.
maybe this would the thing that's breaks her. Her one bad day
Given Harley didn't come about until well into Tim Drake's time as Robin...I have no idea what you're talking about.
Maybe she's in disguise.
If she was in her costume she would have been with the joker when this all happen.
@@enkiduthesin-slayingbeast5306 If she was in her costume, the police would've shot her injured, no matter how agile she is.
This goes to show that Jason is the most sensible person in Gotham. Literally just got rid of the biggest threat. Also shows how ungrateful everyone else is they rather have the Joker alive
Well, jason could've paralysed the Joker (like Oracle)
Like, the Joker is alive, but can't do anything he wants
But, no, jason instead killed him
@Devin The Dude True Bro
@Devin The Dude The Joker is my favourite fictional character ever
Always really loved John Dimaggio's take on the Joker. It's like a hybrid of Heath Ledger's Joker and Mark Hamill's with his own touch.
This is what Batman never understood:
Men get arrested; rabid dogs get put down.
Had he known that distinction earlier, Barbara would still be walking and Jason wouldn't be a ruthless and borderline crazed vigilante...and about a few thousand people would still be alive. Instead, he chose to stick to his principles no matter how many of his friends and loved ones got to suffer because of it -- because of his unwillingness to take action.
Batman may have achieved the moral victory but he still lost the war and now he has to live with his failures, knowing he could've prevented them all had he just learned to draw a line in the sand and say "enough is enough".
Letting innocent poeple die doesn't sound like a moral victory to me.
@@kemp9842 And it isn't. But that's the thing: Batman always cared more about proving how better he is than the Joker, even if it means letting innocent people suffer because of his refusal to kill him no matter what.
Look no further than in Batman: Hush if you need proof of that: one of the few times where even Batman's finally had enough of Joker's bullshit and decided to kill him, the only reason he didn't do it was because Gordon told him if he did that, he'd be no better than all those crazed psychos over at Arkham...because in his mind, killing a mass-murdering psychopath like the Joker makes you no better than him even though you're killing him in order to stop him from hurting any more innocent people and because Gotham's penal system is too corrupt and negligent to take care of him itself.
Never mind that in the story Batman: Devil's Advocate, the one time Gotham finally decided to put the Joker on death row, Batman wrecked everything because he found out the Joker was actually innocent of the crime and that nobody, not even Gordon -- ironically -- wanted to believe him until he finally found the proof he needed to save the Joker instead of just letting him die at no cost to himself. And let's not talk about that one time Batman decided to stop the freaking Punisher of all people from killing Joker...
So yeah, it's safe to say the man's moral compass is just as broken as the Joker's sanity.
@@supereldinho Then he's not really a hero, is he?
@@kemp9842 His actions -- or rather, incation -- would certainly imply that he isn't.
@@kemp9842 Your damn right he ain`t, and i think he knows it too.
I remember him saying sometime along the line like "Deep down Clark is a good person, and deep down i`m not".
Here`s the deal Superman generally doesn`t kill, he will exhaust every freaking other option in order not to do so... but the simple fact he CAN be pushed to kill (and even has done so before technically in comics) is ironically the reason why he is a good person.
Fact is, Supes will do anything and everything to protect the innocent or loved ones when it absolutely comes down to it, no matter what. Because to him innocent lives are the most important.
Batman however, has proven that there is absolutely nothing that goes above his rule, at the cost of other people.
And like that Jason saved more lives than Bruce ever did
jason could've paralysed the Joker (like Oracle)
@@Ahmad1234-c5l oh I love that idea but can we do that can cripple his voice box so he can't talk
Let’s be honest the joker would whip up some insane scheme to walk again or he will be terrorising Gotham on wheels
The Punisher solution, it ends finally once and for all.
Gotham: please help! our criminals are out of control!
also Gotham: no! don't kill them! think of the criminals!
at that point, they're asking for homicidal psych-clowns to terrorize them
Lex Luther is like “He was trash anyway.”
I highly doubt it
@@davidspearim5552 Why wouldn't Lex say that tho. Kinda makes sense🤷🏿♂️
@@blackdynamite5016 Yes but joker was the only one he thought that was close to an equal
@@davidspearim5552 Wait really?! Lex thought The Joker was his equal?! Ok I gotta get back into the comics😁
@@blackdynamite5016 lmao at Lexluhor finding Joker as his equal. People cant be that delusional.
For anyone wondering Why Harley Quinzel isn't Harley Quinn. The reason is complex but let me explain
See death in the family happened in 1988. 2 years after Barbra was paralyzed by the joker
Harley Quinn didn't appear for the first time until 1993
This movie takes place (in comic logic) in the early 90's so Harley had fallen in love with the Joker but hadn't had the time yet to fully commit to becoming a supervillain
Wouldn't be surprised if she turned into a supervillain by finding out he's been murdered.
Lex Luthor: - Man... Now that I had invested so much money on Gotham's insurance companies... -
I was expecting Joker to have that wide smile on his face after he got shot.
Barbara Gordon would never shed a tear for the man who violated and crippled her unless it was only because she didn't get to bring him to justice first.
I think it was more she couldnt beleave he was finaly dead
Those were tears of joy though.
@@darkash900 *believe*
She was relieved
I think she was crying because of Jason. She knew that he killed the joker and she knew that there was no way he was gonna come back from that.
Part of me wants to think that the only reason Gordon was sad was that he wanted to shoot the Joker himself for what that asshole did to his daughter.
It was Bruce and Jim's philosophy against the jokers philosophy
The main issue is that by convincing Red Hood to solve 'The Joker' problem by murdering him, The Joker proved that his way of thinking was correct and that Gordan and Wayne's philosophy had failed. The potential ripple effects of this decision on the future of Gotham City cannot be understated.
They traded one psyco killer for another. Jason will go on a killing spree like the joker did, while it may be criminals and villains killed. It's no different than when the joker was killing people. Murder is in the name of the murder, the body count will continue to rise and the bat family has to hunt one of their own now.
@@Baldeagle-tw2nv Not to mention that Red Hood was already going on a killing spree in the name of vigilante justice. This absolutely tanks the already shaky credibility of the Gotham authorities and could push the city to the brink of anarchy.
@@Baldeagle-tw2nv Jason killing rapists, pyscho-killers and pedophiles... Horey!! its about time someone does the cleaning.. Horey!!
DC actually demonstrated well in the Injustice series.
When superheroes kill, the difference between justice and evil is DIMINISHED.
Because to the normal people like us, superheroes or villains are both monsters who threatenen the humankind.
The only way superheroes can convince the weak that they are the GOOD people, is by the CODE.
When they cross the line, it's the end for us.
That’s why Superman is demonstrated so well
Since people are asking why everyone's sad about Joker, my theory is that some could be sad for Jason. You gotta remember: What he did was a pretty ballsy move and it could haunt him for the rest of his life that *he* was the one who killed Joker, in the most wrong way possible. Imagine if Batman killed Joker in The Dark Knight. That would mean they would lose and Joker would win regardless, except that would mean even worse since that movie's so deep!
P.S: Now I don't really know what kinda sick, twisted plot would have Batman dead and Joker alive, before he is also killed, but *damn* do I not enjoy the Joker dying part! Lol
do love this part it remind me of phantom mask near the end all we missing is laugh.
Jason made the right choice.
Period.
Joker died! Gotham doesn't care. That's the Joker's fear.
Joker won. No matter what happened to him he would always win. He turned Jason into a killer. He succeeded in life, joker never wanted to die to no one.
@@thickwizardfingers4764 well in my opinion joker is dead and can’t terrorize anyone anymore so he lost.
@@cratwane yes your right since he’s dead he can’t terrorize anymore but that’s mainly the reason why Batman kept him alive. Because he knew that if he were to kill joker, it would give joker exactly what he wanted. Therefor making J win.
@@thickwizardfingers4764 no he lost jokers sole goal was to die by Batmans hands. Tarnishing his moral code as a result,but Batman didn't die by Bats' hands and he didn't break bis moral code so he lost even after everything he did
Joker - Wait they picked my death?
Jason - Always has been.
Red hood is the hero Gotham needs
The Joker is dead. murder rates in Gotham City have greatly decreased
*Sad music plays* Such a tragedy. the streets of the city have become safe... too safe... who will kill innocent people now?
probably black mask or Bane or perhaps killer crock.
though I heard Scarecrow was hot this season
@@marseldagistani1989 why don't we fire incompetent cops and hire real cops then?? why don't we start arming ourselves and just shoot those villains, case close.
A New Joker
@@saladinyamamoto8336 Then you have a populace scared of whether they'll be next.
To quote the Joker from Batman: Arkham Knight: who will be laughing then?
Why did it seem like everyone was sad about it?
Exactly Barbara especially.
Cuz everyone was robbed of the one thing they wanted.......Justice. Jason killed Joker out of revenge. He was Judge, Jury, and Executioner. While at the same time there's this feeling that the Jason Todd everyone knew is Gone and is never coming back
Because now they become jobless
@@kaijugodofoblivion5955 k
@@kaijugodofoblivion5955 true but justice is an interpretation of the norm of its society
I feel like commissioner Gordon would have smiled when he walked in on the body. Also why would Lex Luthor even care the joker died?
"You're afraid of being ashes, you're afraid of being forgotten"
-the big man
Jason just saved thousands of lives in Gotham City.
Try millions
Here's a stupid question: Why not do to Joker what Mr. Freeze did to his wife? It isn't killing him, so Batman doesn't break his one rule, and it will save countless lives! Unless of course some dumbass wakes him up.
That would make things even worse. Cryogenic freeze didn't stop another very evil man who not only did things worse but even 400+ years after his initial reign of terror pretty much banned genetic engineering in nearly all cases for almost any reason and his name inspired fear long after his death.
I'm talking about Star Trek's own, Khan Noonien Singh. The baddest of the bad in that franchise.
I'd think cryogenically freezing Joker would have a similar outcome to Khan's.
This time Joker didn't have the last laugh.
Similar in Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker
@@Ahmad1234-c5l Okay.
To everyone asking why people are sad:
It's not because Joker is dead that everyone is sad. It's that Jason finally became exactly what the Joker wanted him to be and by killing the Joker, he got the last laugh. Jason is just another killer in Gotham now, but he could have been so much more if he hadn't given in to his rage.
He could have been yet another hero who chose to let Joker kill more people, choosing his principles over human lives?
M'kay.
@@belias360 another hero who tries to save the joker instead of just killing him. I think you keep forgetting that Batman has tried to rehabilitate Joker numerous times. It’s not that Batman is choosing his principles over human lives, if he were to kill the joker then he would the rest of his big name rogues gallery like bane and ra’s al ghoul, then scarecrow and killer croc, then poison ivy and Harley Quinn, then he would start killing anybody who disagrees with him. He literally can’t kill the joker because that line is too easy to cross and he knows he crosses it he can’t stop.
Except Jason had already killed a crapload of gangsters IN THIS VERY MOVIE, killing the joker doesn’t make him a true killer, Joker was just the latest body to drop at Jason’s hand, and since it’s the end of Jason’s revenge, probably one of the last. Batman and Red Hood are not the same in terms of morality, Batman can’t kill because he knows he can’t stop if he starts, but Jason doesn’t have that same pitfall, because Jason isn’t a symbol like Batman, he’s already in the grey and is comfortable there.
@@shindj2382 The hell with rehabilitation. Joker doesn’t want help. He’s beyond broken, he’s shattered into dust. All he wants is to spread as much misery and pain as possible so that the world can feel as empty and alone and dead as he is on the inside. He won’t be helped by doctors because he thinks they’re a joke. He can’t be sent to prison or death because the legal system is broken. So he’ll keep breaking out and killing again and again and again, leaving more people dead, more families to grieve lost loved ones. It will never end for Joker because he thinks he’s proving some philosophical point about the world being crazy. He cannot and will not be reasoned with.
You can’t cure a rabid dog. Sometimes, the only mercy you can offer for the dog and the people it puts in danger is to take it out back and put it out of its misery. The Joker is such a creature. The only way to help him is to end his miserable life, and Jason did just that.
They're showing the Joker's death like it was a bad thing.
I think the sad music and such is less for Joker and more for Jason. The implication being that now that he's on this road, he can't leave it.
@@RaptorJesus but Red Hood was always a killer.
@@dedsecdefalt7888 Not this one
Good thing too.
It was
Joker when he died was like oh shit he actually did it
They should have killed the joker like a decade ago. The ethics of Batman were insanely wrong
Joker: "Kill me, let me live, either way, I WIN AND YOU. STILL. LOSE."
Red Hood: "readies gun"
Joker:😈
Red Hood: *smirks* "I may lose......but at least no one else will."
Joker:😓
*BANG*
Red Hood: So anyway, I started blasting...
I wish this dialogue would have happened before the shot happened
I can see Harley being sad, but nobody else would be sad that someone finally killed Joker. Mathematically speaking, Batman should have killed Joker decades ago.
I know it implies sadness and the joker wining but I see it a different way sure they all are sad that he crossed the line and killed the joker and yes the joker wanted him to do it but from that Jason probably saved countless lives and misery by killing the joker I don't think this action made him worse or about the same as the joker I think he showed initiative
It could be seen as that.
But we also need to remember that Jason took the law into his own hands in the worst way possible.
It show not only that Joker was right, but also prove his point further that Jason will be a worst version of Batman AND Joker.
Thr bullet to his brain may save lives and avenge many.
But it also could be seen as a preview of what will come.
At least, that what this scean is supposedly showing.
@@doctorwho3708 took the law into his own hands.. isnt that what literally every member of the batman family does?
@@InitialPC in a literary sense. Yes.
But what I'm talking about the Law on death.
@@doctorwho3708 oh I know vigilantism is not the right course of action Batman is one but he doesn't kill though
@@doctorwho3708 it could be argued self-defense, imagine a man was about to set off a bomb and kill people, he directly is not about to kill you but the resulting blast could, in that scenario are you allowed to take his life if thats the only choice?
were talking about joker here, its not a question of if he will kill when hes free its a question of how many people will die, so i would argue that jason acted in self-defense
Joker gets killed.
Bat Family: ;_;
My DCUO Character: Nah Nah Nah Nah! Nah Nah Nah Nah! Hey Hey! Good byeeeee~ !
If joker dies doesn’t that always leave someone else to take his place? I mean look at what happened to Superman after he killed Joker, or even the Batman who laughs
Yup, that’s basically the point.
Why do i hear the Scottish man from Samurai Jack?
PS: and also Jake and Bender?
It's the Same voice actor John DiMaggio
RATH!
@@darkgokussj Lemme Tell Yah Something!!!
Marcus Fenix from gears of war, Jake from adventure time, and bender from futurerama
@Daniele Guarangno Yep he also voice Jake the Dog and Bender from Futurama too 😀
Oh come on, why didn’t they bring back Jensen Ackles as Jason Todd? He was the DEFINITIVE Jason Todd/Red Hood voice!
He's filming episodes for Supernatural
@@awesomenova6355 I made this comment before I knew about Destiel trending, and I know why now.
I agree tbh, but yeah pretty much what they said lol.
Even though he was clearly shocked, I think that deep down he was happy with this outcome. This is literally what he lives to do and it’s just cause nothing but pure chaos. And that’s definitely what this killing likely would’ve done no matter what.
I don't think it's an emotional send off to the Joker. It's... more a moment of processing that.. he's gone. A constant in Gotham is no more. The Gorden's crying because they no longer have to worry about that monster, Batman contemplating his life and his methods, Harley... well... processing that her puddin' laughed his last.
It's not an emotional send off by everyone. It's just that they're coming to terms with it.
" I got you your crowbar" ,jajajajajajaja, that was just a fuu#$"!cking awesome line
So sad if only Batman was there to stop Jason. Joker deserves it though. For some reason I thought Barbra would be very happy but instead she cried??? Joker shot her in the spine!
What‘s with the somber music? Gotham should be celebrating, throwing a party and shit.
I didn't understand why everyone was sad about the death of the joker
Jason did the one thing batman couldn't do. All of the blood on batmans hands for not doing what needed to be done.
Gordon: Barb sweetie, I have some terrible news. The man who shot you and crippled you for life is . . .is . . . is dead.
Barbara: No! Daddy, say it isn't true!
Bruce: Damnit! Now what am I going to do? My staple justification for vigilantism is gone! What am I going to do now?
Alfred: May I suggest, Master Bruce. That you use this as an opportunity to give up the cowl. Using your family's status improve Gotham by legal means and progressive socio-economic reform. And maybe some therapy?
Bruce: Alfred, SHUT THE F%^K UP!
that is what the Dark Knight Rises Alfred would do.. he said the same thing and dreams that before he retires, he sees Bruce Wayne is settled down having a family..
Bruce: Alfred, I have already done that. Also, I am dead.
(Disappears)
The one in the Batcave is Dick Grayson.
Bruce Wayne is dead.
Joker in hell: He really shot me 😕
Bat family: OMG I can’t believe you did that!!!
Everyone else in Gotham: Celllllaaabrate good time come on!!!!
tbh i expected a smile when joker died
This was the best thing that ever happened to Gotham.
That part where Barbara embraces her father in relieved tears because the monster who took her legs and tortured her father is finally dead?
That's a gift Bruce will never be able to give her
It looked like batman was mourning the loss of his ex
Joker: "Do you recall what you said to me while I was breaking your head in with that crowbar?
"
'Please, Stop! Please' 'If you let me live, I'll do anything you say' 'I'll be YOUR ROBIN'
"And look at you now my little 'Red Hood'. Shooting up people and making Batman's life miserable.
You are MY Robin!"
*Jason shoots Joker, Barbara throws a batarang while trying to stop him but misses. Joker lays dead on the floor with his brains out*
Jason: I hope this was the right one
Had to be done.
Batman and Gordon: We can’t reward red hood for killing joker
Ma and the mayor of Gotham: GET THIS MAN A F**KING MONUMENT
Batman, Gordan & Harley : 😔
Gotham citizen's : ✨🎉🎊🎆💐👏✨🤸♂️🎉🤸♀️👏💐🎊🎊🎉✨🕺🏻💃🕺🏻💃✨🎊🎉🎆💐👏🎊
I mean, anyone in Gotham with some sense would've scheduled Joker for the chair the first time he got in Arkham, if not the second. By the thirtieth time, the fact that there wasn't an immediate execution upon capture was baffling, let alone the military stepping in and sending a team after the guy while he's not in jail since he's the worlds most successful domestic terrorist.
TLDR: Finally someone did it.
Joker has a lot of money, power and influence in the criminal world. He can threaten judges families and force them into giving him a light sentence.
Joker: dies*
Literally everyone else: YES! HE IS GONE!
Ngl the soothing music imbedded with this scene is haunting
they are not sad because Joker died they are sad because they afraid of what Jason will become when he crossed the line
The crazy thing is. If you kill him you let him win. That everyone has a dark side and everyone is just as crazy as him. If you let him live he continues doing what he loves. Joker is the best villain I have ever seen.
It’s a lose/lose situation. Joker is smart tho
Despite Joker's rhetoric, his death isn't a victory for him. He doesn't get to kill or corrupt anyone else. He's been stopped, permanently. His death is the end of his chaos and the reassertion of order. And frankly, the fact that killing him makes you as crazy as him is a load of nonsense. Joker killed thousands with a smile on his face and a song in his heart. He filled graveyards with his victims. By killing him, Jason saved every one of Joker's future victims. In this instance, killing ironically becomes a life-affirming act.
@@kemp9842 but it’s proving his point to Batman. That’s his whole existence. Yah Jason saved thousands but he proved joker right. He proved that with a push people can kill and everyone has a primitive instinct to kill
@@pancakepotato1953 Then that's a dumb point to make. He's pointing out something that's part of human nature; it's like pointing out that the sun rises in the East and sets in the West. He's like the annoying hipster trying to be deep, but has only an elementary schooler's grasp of morality.
@@kemp9842 tell him that not me. And tell Batman that also since he thinks everyone is good and has a chance to be good. I’m just saying what joker stated
Lol why is everyone sad ? Joker just killed and tortured people for shits and giggles so that Batman can caught his attention. Jason did the right thing.
,,You get what you fucking deserve"
Jason should get praised,someone finally got some balls to end Jokers infinite loop of violence and suffering that he created.
Kill one to safe many.
What they don't show you is that most of the citizens in Gotham threw a parties and celebrated once they heard Joker was dead