New! Little Powered Speakers Rocked my World!!!!! Vanatoo Transparent Zero Plus
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I've had the T0s for a few years now, I think they're a perfect compact desk speaker. I just barely have enough space for them so anything bigger would be a no go. I think they're missing a fuller sound compared to my main Hi-Fi but the imaging is incredible, it blows my main system out of the water. Totally agree about the subwoofer, it makes them come alive.
Maybe the new Plus version has that fuller sound that mine can't quite push. Can't complain about an upgrade!
Have the T0 non plus, and they're the only computer speakers I'll ever need. Another cool thing, I had an issue with one of the speakers, contacted vanatoo, and one of the 2 owners of the company got back to me and helped me through the issue. Awesome company
Love tiny speakers! Thanks Randy!!! Happy Sunday!!!
I was introduced to Vanatoo in 2015. It was at a show and they were demoing the T-1s. The T-zeros are best for desktop application and the like. What is more impressive are the T-ones. My mind was blown in the demo I saw. I walked into the room hearing them play and could not believe the sound coming out of such tiny speakers. (The T-1s are $100 more and just a little too big for desktop application unless you have a giant desk). Here's the thing though, the bass was too big for such a speaker so I immediately started looking for a sub, looking behind stuff and everything. The Vanatoo guys were all smiles (like the Cheshire cat) as I ended up scouring the room for a sub and came up empty! There was no sub anywhere in the room!
To this day, I don't know how in the world they did it except to say it must be DSP. As a plus the Vanatoo folks are super nice and not to mention, humble. I ran into them in my coverage in 2016 and 2017. In 2017 they got the award for best innovation or some such thing and even though it was just a silly show award that has no impact on anything, they were overwhelmed and extremely grateful (I witnessed it).
I almost bought a pair of T-zeros three years ago, but finally found a way to fit my studio monitors I have to my desk, so I saved some money in that one.
If I had need, I would not hesitate to get a pair of the T-ones though personally. (I got tired of dealing with subs about 12 years ago or so).
I've had my T0's for about four years. Outstanding speakers. Listening to them right now. One reason I chose the T0 is I'm a big fan of passive radiators and, well, that's what they are. Another reason I chose them is they are small. The particular computer they're hooked up to is my SFF rig and it all sits on a smallish desk with a 34" monitor. Space is at a premium. Their imaging is quite good, considering that their placement isn't what it could be due to the small desk. I do have a sub (Cambridge x201) attached to the system and it really brings the whole thing alive. Front end is a Schiit Hel 2e presently. Can't say enough good things about them if desktop space is a concern.
You wanna level up? Go sealed.
I've had mine for about a year and they absolutely rock. My only complaint is that the back plate of the powered speaker gets hot as fuck when in use. To the point where I hesitate to use them on really hot days. I reached out to Vanatoo and they said it sounded normal :/
I have these in my kid's room with a small Kanto Sub6 (matte gray) sub connected. Cable box and game console are connected to the smart TV. Optical out is connected to the T0's. The speakers turn on when they get a signal. Mom is not an audiophile so she does not care about speaker placement. They are placed on the highest shelves in the room, sub included (it is very small), and they still sound great.
Have been interested in these... thanks for the review!
Huge fan of that company have the older version and they are some of the best speakers I have ever heard!
Great review, thx Randy. Please go on testing powered speakers - there should still be some jewels in the market! 👍👍👍
Great review. I actually ordered a pair of these YESTERDAY, based on reviews of the previous model and tight desk space. Also, I do a lot of video chat for work, and the Creative Pebbles are just not quite cutting it, and I - of course - plan to use these for music.
Love the powered speaker videos!
Thank you Randy
Happy Sunday. Though not inexpensive these may be the answer for many. Interesting loudspeakers.
Hi there Randy....i guess the klipsch took you to the dark side of powered speakers....niiiiiice
Good morning. That's a cute little desktop speaker.
I love a soft dome ❤
I see Bluey I press like. 🤩
Oh and these speakers are a great desktop solution
Thanks Randy! For better sound quality on Vanatoo's, isn't it recommended to use the digital inputs as opposed to the analog ...because the analog input signal is converted to digital before being sorted out by the DSP.
So for example, instead of controlling them with the pre-outs of a headphone amp, one would want to connect with USB and then use your computer's volume control. I believe that's what "Z" alluded to back in the day.
@erich2814 I agree with you. My personal experience is that I get better sound quality using the digital inputs, rather than using an external DAC.
Editing Randy seems like a pretty cool dude. Glad you're able to add some people to the team there. 😂
Lol. Yeah. Staff is growing
I love my T0s. I disagree a sub is a MUST have for desktop use, which these are mostly designed for. I agree they are much better with a sub, but of course. For playing music at your desk, these kill it without a sub. While I really don't think they need a sub because again, they're not home theater speakers, they will struggle a little when playing loud without a sub and they'll struggle for hip-hop/bass heavy music. So if people care about that then yes they'll need a sub. These are really really designed for desktop use though. I LOVE the crossover, and I think its one of the killer features compared to much of the competition.
Thanks Randy. Thinking of getting my son a decent setup. Thought about the klipsch fives with a sub. Now that i saw this video I'm rethinking. They'll be about same price.
Great video. Thanks as always. Seems to me that you are a person who likes Tool. To me they sound so clean on a good system.
Thanks Randy, I’ve been waiting to hear someone to review this speaker. Was curious how there were going to sound compared to the previous generation for a desktop setup
Had the Vanatoo Transparent Zero flanking my monitor, on an 1/8 inch thick rubber pad, on a wooden stand, 9 inches above my desk's surface. They're now my spare or ...? The Vanatoo Transparent Zero Plus speakers now flank my monitor, as aforementioned. I quote from Gary Gesellchen, blog on July 10, 2023. "We made minor adjustments to the equalization of the Transparent Zero Plus frequency response. The unit maintains the same overall neutral balance of the original, while being just a little more relaxed through the critical midrange". The PC audio card's, C-Media HD CM8828 processor's, 10 band EQ setting, used with the VT0 speakers, I'm now using with the VT0+ speakers. These VT0+ speakers sound just as phenomenal as the VT0 speakers did! Also, the active VT0+ speaker, as Gary Gesellchen stated in the aforementioned blog, would run a bit cooler. My active VT0+ speaker does run notably cooler even with the sleeping mode, now OFF!
It is rather scary that when I watch you, my thoughts are mirrored shortly after by your words! You were saying that they are versatile, right after I was thinking it. Perhaps your videos are portals to the 'Twilight Zone'. But I am rambling and totally out in deep left dugout. Thank you for this review for the nearfield listening solution. It did sound a little counterintuitive to pair them with a great subwoofer, but I will defer to your better ears and experience. I am sure some fledgling audiophiles will really enjoy this setup as their entry into great sound without worrying about multicomponent separates systems and choices. Thanks for your time and effort to share this with us all and enjoy your quality family time. Take care and stay well, Sir.
I got just got these after watching your video and Joshua Valor's video. You guys had two very different takes on this speaker regarding bass and I see now that my preference for bass lines up with yours. Definitely needs the addition of a subwoofer especially if you're not listening at high volumes all the time. At low volume these tend to lack any punch until you turn them up. After adding a subwoofer these sound even better. Now that they don't have to handle the super low end they cover the mids and highs much better in my opinion. Vocals tend to pop a little better too. Love these speakers so far but definitely recommend a subwoofer.
I think I remember you saying that you weren't a sub-woofer guy. I am very glad you appear to have changed your mind.
Thanks!
Welcome!
Not to mention their cusomer service is topnotch, ive had issues on the the speakers, emailed them and got a reply immediately and walked me through the whole process and made sure i was all set. These days with all the new stuff coming out customer support is important imho and vanatoo speakers not only make a good product but their customer support check that box as well. Buy with confidence imho.
Love my T0's. Upgraded from Edifier 1850's during COVID (100% WFH) and couldn't be happier. I did like them better on short stands flanking my monitor (with the standles set for a vertical baffle), but I added another monitor, so they're back on the desk. The DSP programming changes when it detects a SW, so not having to change things makes sense.
i have a set of the original t0 speakers and i love them. i'd really like to see you do more active speaker reviews though. i definitely understand why you like passive for the hobbyist side of sound, but active are way more entry level friendly and when friends ask what to get i'd love to be able to send more reviewers than just z reviews (as much as i do like him)
swan os-10 are sub200 speakers that my buddy got i was shocked by, they're extremely close to my vanatoos. the d300 by them are also awesome too and around 500 for 6.5s.
Randy, when you evaluate this, does it influence your views on importance of speakers wires ?
The speaker feet can be screwed off and put on the other end so you have the tweeter facing upwards even when it's standing on the foot thingy. I suppose it would sound better that way than having the tweeter facing downwards.
Randy,
This is a very interesting little powered speaker. The Klipsch 7's have also caught my eye (and thanks for that review as well). May I ask a stupid question? I have a "music room", where I have guitar and recording equipment. The ancient hi-fi in that room has died and I'd like to replace it. One of these two speakers looks like a real likely candidate for this task (plus hardware for source input).
Here is the question: I already have a NAS with my entire music collection on it. I'd like to access that to play on the music room hifi (instead of having to shuffle CDs). Suppose I get a WIIM or some other streaming device. OK, how do I select the music to play? The point is, it seems like one can only do this by using a smart phone or a PC. I don't have a smartphone and I'm not interested in adding a PC to this already crowded room. Is there any other way to access music from the NAS to play on the system I want to make? Thanks for anybody that has constructive inputs.
Which is a better sound this tiny speaker or the RSL speaker you previously reviewed ?
Any thoughts on an upgrade subwoofer to go with these? Was thinking SVS 3000 Micro for a desktop 2.1 in a smaller office
You should review the Kanto Tuk.
With such a small powered speakers, I wonder if the reduced cabinet volume of the powered speaker causes it to sound any different than the slave speaker?
I still use the original T0's with a fostex 6" sub cannibalized from a former monitor 2.1 setup. It's good for a desktop. Here's an upthumb.
edit: I also tried the Audioengine A2+ (underwhelming), and their P4's with an amp (VERY good little speakers, I kept them!), and finally decided I loved more room on my desktop than I loved a "setup".
I think we have the same chair
What's the difference between the plus and the regular T0?
There's a plus now? Hmm... maybe I should finally get a pair. Oh, I see, they changed up the electronics and settings, Bluetooth 5, AptX-HD, toslink, hires over USB (who cares), and that sub control and stuff is also new (volume adjustments).
How would these compare with the KEF Q150?
Hey, Randy, it's Jim I know. This is not on the subject that your video is. But I want to ask you a question about the V3 would replacing the opamps give it a better bottom end. Thanks Jim
Only negative I can think of and this goes for all active speakers is once you get the itch to upgrade which we all inevitably do you have to start from scratch again. You don't already have an amp, dac etc to swap out separately. Perfect for someone looking to set and forget in a bedroom or small space etc but not for those always looking for that bit more!
I agree this is the big trade-off for actives, BUT you also have to consider this: people on a budget might often get a "good enough" amp for their passive speakers (cobbling together used gear, hand-me-downs, whatever), only to find that once they upgrade the speakers, the old amp doesn't cut it (the new system might even sound worse, or not reach the same SPLs, etc.). The amplification is almost always going to be perfect in active systems.
@@MrBobsherIt sucks the fun out of mixing and matching of equipment for your own tastes but yes you make a good point!
In a high quality powered speaker system, the manufacturer can optimize all components to function together as a phenomenal sound transducer, if they so wished their product(s) to be so. Vanatoo does, and has done so! Many music lovers just do not have the necessary time, and/or money, and/or knowledge, to do justice to their brain's need to hear sound that is as clean and accurate, as is the source material.
Appreciate your reviews. Between the Vanatoos and Kanto Ora for a desktop near field setup, which do you think is a better option? For reference, my ears lean towards the sound of Bower & Wilkins type of sound. Will add a subwoofer. Thanks!
Would that be cool for back surrounds or no
I have the Swan D100's on my desk now. Can't quite pull the trigger on these. I've heard great things about the the T0. I'm sure I'd enjoy them, but I'm worried that the upgrade won't yield too much better of a sound, to warrant me spending another $450.
Are there speakers that go down to 20 hz? Or one has to always buy a subwoofer?
Hi. I can get a used pair (good as new) of audioengine a5+ for only $200. is it a good deal or are there better buys for that price?
Have a listen to the TANNOY Reveal 8, they are freaking outstanding
The Flat Batteries was a great rock band, but they sort of faded out of popularity when I woke up. It was a nice dream.
Morning my friend had the Emotiva b1plus pounding last night dang they get loud
Hi. Looking for some speakers for my desktop PC setup. Got it down to these vs the philharmonics true mini + an amp. I watched both of your vids and you liked both. Which way would you go? Pairing it w/an svs sb-1000 pro sub My mlp is 3.5 feet away from the mlp.
The plug is an RJ45
Can you change the crossover for the subwoofer as the out comes from the speakers not the sub into the speaker?
Would these be any good for mixing in a treated room?
These have a selectable crossover for the sub, 80 or 120 hz.
It seems that the new Transparent Zero Plus's have had a large drop in the power that goes to the tweeters. Down to 12 watts per channel as compared to the 48 watts per channel on the original T-0's.🙁
"These aren't handles, they're stands." So, standles
Some people can’t handle the stands.😉
@@SyzygyNoon "You want the 'Toos? You can't handle the 'Toos!"
@@svalbard01 Did you order the Code Red?! DID YOU ORDER THE CODE RED?!!
Because we now have a LOT of Mountain Dew to drink.. 🫡
This review couldn't have come at a better time. I'm shopping for a solid desktop setup. Would an SVS 3000 Micro be overkill? I'm looking for a smaller sub that can get down to around 20-25Hz (I like bass heavy music)
It's kinda an overkill haha, I have both of their models paired with svs 1000 pro subs, best speakers in their price range
I dare anyone to hear a difference between 24/96 and 24/192 on these speakers. So much else affects the sound quality more than higher sample rates.
It doesn't matter if I can't feel the difference of 5 HP. I feel better having it. Which is most of what audio is anyway, people and their feelings.
These are kind of like the Klipsch computer speakers.
Randy - do you like the new Sevendust album? It came out today. Gotta know what the cheap audio man thinks!
A single 12 isn't overkill, it's like having a pair of 8s.
They're not transparent at all, they're opaque black. That's a shame, woulda been cool if they were transparent.
My go to would still be JBL portable Bluetooth speakers , the Flip 6, Extreme 3, Boombox 2 for party anytime , anywhere Amazing bass and super musical ,Thank You .
Those are better than any of those.
Compared to iLoud Micro Monitors?
These are way more versatile. With the iLoud if you aren't happy with the bass (which they do output a lot of for their size) you're sorta stuck. WIth these, plug in a sub.
These are more ready to go. However I chose an emotiva se12 with iloud micro pair. Analog goes to them and filtered to the speakers. Works wonderfully! I needed a dac/amp for headphone use when needed in the office.
At that price and the fact you must have a sub hooked up makes these a no go. Way better deals and sound for a lot less then that.
To be fair, every speaker that size (or even close to it) needs a sub.
If you think about them as a $200 amp (which it would be with all its features on a stand alone) and $250 speakers it really isnt crazy.
Interested to know how you would know you could get way better sound considering that only about 4 people have heard these and I’m one of them
Agreed. And way more thought went into these vs most of the other powered speakers I’ve had in
@@cheapaudioman Well... ok, so he's probably full of s... uh, he's probably wrong, but to be fair the T Zeros have been around a while and reviewed very well from day one. The only differences here are really in the electronics and some mildly differing EQ, physically these are T Zeros. Most of the changes to the plus are quality of life type, which is nice since they didn't increase the price (well, after they increased the T Zero price from $350 to $450 a while back; inflation is a bitch.)
Will these work for pc
Yes
@@LorenzoFrausto Thanks for getting back to me
$450 for a speaker that size? They better have rocked your world lol.
If you buy a $200 pair and an amp for another $200 you're at similar numbers. There's no other powered speaker on the market that can do everything these do quite as well. Certainly nothing in this price range.
Wonder how they compare with Audio Engine speakers???
They sound better than audioengines
Can you do a vid on the best wireless headphones for sound quality? Everyone talks too much about ANC. uhhhh… it’s a gimmick in my opinion.
Greatest sound wireless please. Thanks.
FiiO BTR7 and the cans of your choice.
@@KimmoJaskari It’s an amplifier?
@@KimmoJaskari I apologize for my ignorance. Can you explain how it works?
I still cannot stand powered stereo speakers, although I am trying…
For $450, I'd rather get the RSL IA255.1 amp & HiVi-Swans DIY 3-way speakers.
If you don't want to build your own speakers, you may choose Fluance SX6 bookshelf & Emotiva Airmotiv SE8 subwoofer.
I am looking for some cheap decent speakers for like 60 bucks. That are powered and Bluetooth capability. So I can put in my work office, any suggestions
A speaker is nothing but an air pump.
2:32 RJ-45. It's called an RJ-45 connector.
RJ-50
Kanto YU4, or YU6 ALL DAY LONG...
Why? They have a clearly very inferior feature set.
What a dumb review. These are practically made for being at a PC and this guy puts it at a TV setup and claims it needs a subwoofer lmao.
I'll never subscribe to a channel that insists on using Imperial/Freedumb units of measurement. Not happening. Not ever! 300 million ish people out of 8 billion. The world (I'm really inferring America here) is insane! ;) Best of luck to your channel. RUclips, 'Don't recommend channel'. Goodnight!
If you upgrade to vanatoo's flagship speaker, you don't need a Sub for desktop use....I have the encores in my 40 ft fifth wheel, and there awesome
The t0 have an f3 of 56Hz while the t1 have an f3 of 48Hz so there is very very little difference between the two (in terms of extension)
Also worth noting that Vanatoo lists *in-room* response, which is very misleading when most companies list anechoic data.
@@Nick_2i I own both and the encore has noticeably more bass than it's little brother in real-world listening
@@johnpravato3042 Well thats hard to argue with lol
That's quite odd though, I wonder if you have a lot of room gain around 40Hz or something.
@@Nick_2iPerhaps it's not that the T1 gets way lower, but simply plays louder at 50-60hz than the T0. That's enough to give a lot of people including me an impression of more enjoyable bass.
I have both. The T1Es do have better bass, but it's not that much better. They're still a small speaker, though noticeably better than the T0 in that regard. My T1Es live on the tower desk and they still have a X201 sub and they do sound better with a sub. However, even on a relatively clear desktop, they take up a lot of room and I'd need new desk(s) for anything larger.