Paul, you are the man. This channel is gold. I am getting addicted to fly fishing and love working on the casting stroke and accuracy since it is so important. Great drills.
Damn man, been loving these videos of yours! I have to ask...why couldn't I have seen these 20+ years ago when I started down the "fly fishing" road?! haha your information is *immensely* valuable! All the best to you from the Pacific Northwest, USA.
😆 Thanks! Well firstly 20 years ago my teaching was quite different! We were putting up videos back then but they were low quality 10-15s long 🤠 And they may not have helped! ruclips.net/video/UF8NnbbF9-M/видео.htmlsi=jjOoMPGjA1w7mLZr
Thanks again , Paul , cool thing to do to realise you might have not made the exact point or made it too confusing for us in the way you taught back then , now you see a better direction to show us that is easier to understand , if you get my drift. Not many chaps would admit that they had done that. Thanks , keep the info coming, all the best , David.
Well thanks, Dave! The way I see it is if I’m not open to learning then why am I teaching in the first place? 😆 But for me it’s very much more than that; I want to learn everything I can about fly fishing and fly casting. And a lot more besides!! I’m sure in another 10-15 years I’ll do this again. And for me that will be quite fascinating because In quite sure it will be different again 😎
@@cachi-7878 I’m not sure which bounce you mean Cachi. There is an initial bounce from the rod rebounding after MCF. But then the loop is just forming. There may be a small surge at Loop Straight if there is remaining energy in the loop. There is no question that an expert caster knows when his/her loop has straightened behind. That for me is a feeling of increased weight that then disappears. That said, very many casters do not know. Most casters begin their next cast before the line has fully unrolled, which can cause all sorts of problems. You even see this at World Championships level. So I think there is a progression as we learn, and that at first the caster must watch his loops unroll in both directions. And then later, we need to learn the cues that allow us to determine Loop Straight without watching. An interesting experiment is to cast blindfold. That’s one of my training drills at Max Carry. I do think most casters are rushed and worry that the line will fall after it has straightened. Which it will of course, but they have more time than they think and learning this really advances their abilities. 👍
I’m looking forward to these series, out of curiosity do you still do zoom lessons / coaching? I’ve seen pretty dramatic improvement in my casting over the last 6 months of practicing with drills you’ve posted.
Yes I do! Extremely busy actually so I keep it low key 😆 particularly that Eastern US time zone. Email me on paul@sexyloops.com and we can have a chat! Well done with the improvements 💪😎
That’s a good question, Peter. Ideally we want to aim a little above the surface, and there are of course times when we change it to higher. I have an interesting exercise when we play with these differences when casting to targets. Technically speaking, after the lift the fly has moved towards the caster, so we are not putting it straight back down even then, but instead to where it was before the lift was initiated. Arguably however there is already too much information in the video 😆
Thank you Paul Is that bell a representation of the fly line momentum or a rod tip target direction ? I’m now in the middle of two concepts here? Both are valid to me in this time of my game, but as a beginner no instructor mentioned momentum it’s what the line follows not rod tip exactly ? So here it’s where I am… 1-Line follows rod tip but I also believe …2- it travels to the momentum…😅 How important it’s that bell analogy to a beginner if his or her back cast momentum is off the bell ? Hope it makes sense 😊 Thank you again!!
Alright so there are several things in there. The first is that the imaginary bell that I teach, is target that we want to aim for that the fly should ring when the loop straightens on the backcast. It is (usually) 180 degrees from the front target. This helps us make our backcast directly away from the front target, and is important for loop size, trajectory and tracking. The second is momentum in the flyline. There are two important concepts here, one is the centre of mass of the flyline, which is useful for thinking about the effects of gravity, and the second is to imagine the line is made up of small beads (like a plug chain) which helps us to understand various phenomena - some aspects of loop morphing for example. There is also tension between the front of the unrolling loop and the rod tip, as well as tension which decreases from the front of the loop to the fly, which is important because it stops the loop turning into spaghetti and also helps us understand the propagation of mends, tails and dangles! I would think angular momentum in the loop is also an important concept for understanding loop morph. Having discussed these and other things on the Sexyloops Board for the past 25 years while we have certainly moved forward, there are still as many disagreements as there as agreements over which mechanisms are more important, but I think everyone agrees that they are all important in some way! Cheers, Paul
So many thoughts 😇 For poppers you’ll want a floating line. Generally a line with a short front taper. The rest is situational dependent. What are you using now?
@@SexyloopsTV To be frank i haven't caught a fish on fly yet A newbie to fly fishing and i learnt the casting and some basics in the Himalayas while on Golden mahseer fishing trip I belong to south India where we have Huge Snakheads and Mahseer and several other specie's So i want to try for Malabarsnakehead which is very close relative of giant snakehead and the behavior is also similar Since you been using Popper's I'd love to use poppers at first Most of the snakheads i caught on Topwater lures
SA bonefish, infinity or redfish will all work and you can adapt your stroke to them. Some have both warm and cold water coatings. Definitely a floating line. Taper you can adapt to.
Just to let you know again, this has helped me immensely with my casting , thanks, all the best , David.
That’s great David! 😎
Paul, you are the man. This channel is gold. I am getting addicted to fly fishing and love working on the casting stroke and accuracy since it is so important. Great drills.
Thanks Robbie!! 😎😎
Fantastic love your coaching style - game changing.
Your explanations and these drills are helping my cast immensely and helping me teach my daughter.
Hey that’s great Seahorse 😆
Damn man, been loving these videos of yours!
I have to ask...why couldn't I have seen these 20+ years ago when I started down the "fly fishing" road?!
haha your information is *immensely* valuable!
All the best to you from the Pacific Northwest, USA.
😆 Thanks! Well firstly 20 years ago my teaching was quite different! We were putting up videos back then but they were low quality 10-15s long 🤠 And they may not have helped! ruclips.net/video/UF8NnbbF9-M/видео.htmlsi=jjOoMPGjA1w7mLZr
Thanks again , Paul , cool thing to do to realise you might have not made the exact point or made it too confusing for us in the way you taught back then , now you see a better direction to show us that is easier to understand , if you get my drift. Not many chaps would admit that they had done that. Thanks , keep the info coming, all the best , David.
Well thanks, Dave! The way I see it is if I’m not open to learning then why am I teaching in the first place? 😆 But for me it’s very much more than that; I want to learn everything I can about fly fishing and fly casting. And a lot more besides!! I’m sure in another 10-15 years I’ll do this again. And for me that will be quite fascinating because In quite sure it will be different again 😎
For me the most notable thing though, is my teaching has changed. I’ve really been working on that.
@10:17, the “bell” should be ringing when the rod bounces in your hand. You can feel it, so no need to even look at your back cast.
@@cachi-7878 I’m not sure which bounce you mean Cachi. There is an initial bounce from the rod rebounding after MCF. But then the loop is just forming. There may be a small surge at Loop Straight if there is remaining energy in the loop. There is no question that an expert caster knows when his/her loop has straightened behind. That for me is a feeling of increased weight that then disappears. That said, very many casters do not know. Most casters begin their next cast before the line has fully unrolled, which can cause all sorts of problems. You even see this at World Championships level. So I think there is a progression as we learn, and that at first the caster must watch his loops unroll in both directions. And then later, we need to learn the cues that allow us to determine Loop Straight without watching. An interesting experiment is to cast blindfold. That’s one of my training drills at Max Carry. I do think most casters are rushed and worry that the line will fall after it has straightened. Which it will of course, but they have more time than they think and learning this really advances their abilities. 👍
I’m looking forward to these series, out of curiosity do you still do zoom lessons / coaching? I’ve seen pretty dramatic improvement in my casting over the last 6 months of practicing with drills you’ve posted.
Yes I do! Extremely busy actually so I keep it low key 😆 particularly that Eastern US time zone. Email me on paul@sexyloops.com and we can have a chat! Well done with the improvements 💪😎
If the casting stroke starts with the fly on the water, is the forward target also on the water?or do we sneak in a slight rise of trajectory?
That’s a good question, Peter. Ideally we want to aim a little above the surface, and there are of course times when we change it to higher. I have an interesting exercise when we play with these differences when casting to targets.
Technically speaking, after the lift the fly has moved towards the caster, so we are not putting it straight back down even then, but instead to where it was before the lift was initiated. Arguably however there is already too much information in the video 😆
You hurt your hand
@@JosephOng boat maintenance 😆
Thank you Paul
Is that bell a representation of the fly line momentum or a rod tip target direction ?
I’m now in the middle of two concepts here? Both are valid to me in this time of my game, but as a beginner no instructor mentioned momentum it’s what the line follows not rod tip exactly ?
So here it’s where I am…
1-Line follows rod tip but I also believe …2- it travels to the momentum…😅
How important it’s that bell analogy to a beginner if his or her back cast momentum is off the bell ?
Hope it makes sense 😊
Thank you again!!
Alright so there are several things in there. The first is that the imaginary bell that I teach, is target that we want to aim for that the fly should ring when the loop straightens on the backcast. It is (usually) 180 degrees from the front target. This helps us make our backcast directly away from the front target, and is important for loop size, trajectory and tracking.
The second is momentum in the flyline. There are two important concepts here, one is the centre of mass of the flyline, which is useful for thinking about the effects of gravity, and the second is to imagine the line is made up of small beads (like a plug chain) which helps us to understand various phenomena - some aspects of loop morphing for example.
There is also tension between the front of the unrolling loop and the rod tip, as well as tension which decreases from the front of the loop to the fly, which is important because it stops the loop turning into spaghetti and also helps us understand the propagation of mends, tails and dangles!
I would think angular momentum in the loop is also an important concept for understanding loop morph.
Having discussed these and other things on the Sexyloops Board for the past 25 years while we have certainly moved forward, there are still as many disagreements as there as agreements over which mechanisms are more important, but I think everyone agrees that they are all important in some way!
Cheers, Paul
Wanted to ask you about What line should i use if i want to use Popper and Streamer
Floating, Weight forward or sinking?
So many thoughts 😇 For poppers you’ll want a floating line. Generally a line with a short front taper. The rest is situational dependent. What are you using now?
@@SexyloopsTV To be frank i haven't caught a fish on fly yet
A newbie to fly fishing and i learnt the casting and some basics in the Himalayas while on Golden mahseer fishing trip
I belong to south India where we have Huge Snakheads and Mahseer and several other specie's
So i want to try for Malabarsnakehead which is very close relative of giant snakehead and the behavior is also similar
Since you been using Popper's I'd love to use poppers at first Most of the snakheads i caught on Topwater lures
Im going to buy a new line Tomorrow So they have some options but I'm confued
As I'll want to use Popper and Streamers Depending on the location
ok well the best thing you can do is become a first class caster as quickly as possible. I use a SA Bonefish 8. What’s the air and water temp?
SA bonefish, infinity or redfish will all work and you can adapt your stroke to them. Some have both warm and cold water coatings. Definitely a floating line. Taper you can adapt to.