Pro-Palestine Supporters Are Clueless | Joe Rogan & Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin
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Francis Foster is a writer and stand-up comic. Konstantin Kisin is a political commentator and author of "An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West." They are the hosts of the podcast and RUclips program "TRIGGERnometry."
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so these few individuals represent everybody who is protesting? gross generalization
You can find idiots in any protest or gathering and cherry pick your responses.
Did you watch the whole video of Konstantin Kisin interviewing people? He spoke to loads and loads of people, and almost none of them had much clue about what the end goal of the protests were. As he said, most of them are good people. Just incredibly naïve.
@@HelenEk7 edited video
You can say the same thing about both left n right to be honest. I’m not American but it’s same everywhere.
I agree somewhat… too many protesting or supporting things they truly know little if anything about. Just ignorant and mind blowing.
@@jillsmith6489 yeah i think so but it might open up their knowledge through the experiences yet it can be too one sided….
Its meant to be one sided.
Read up on Ronald Storrs .
The Man who helped create the distrust of catholics/protestants in Ireland that led to war .
After 1920 where did he end up . Storrs became the 1st British General governor of Jerusalem & asked about helping zionism he replied
Our aim is to create a loyal little Jewish Ulster in the middle East to guard against a hostile sea of Arabism.
Don't just blame the British for this.
The US helped creating Ronald Storrs project.
Storrs also ended up in Cyprus.
3 long term wars
Ulster/Ireland Palestine Jerusalem/Israel
Cyprus Turkey/Greece .
Who said it was only about religion.
It's only ever been about Control & Money.
It’s true by why is it relevant. The right wing isn’t mentioned at all, and there’s no indication anyone in the video is right wing
@@jillsmith6489normally I would agree with you that is the left and the right. But on this one it's really just the left that are this dumb. You can walk up to any pro-israel protester and they can tell you exactly why they're there and what they're fighting for. Years and years ago I started on the left. But as you get older and wiser you realize the American left is getting dumber and dumber.
most of them have seen pictures of disfigured bodies (some of them were babies), demolished homes, and people dying of hunger.
that's why they're protesting (at least most of them), they don't want to see other human beings suffer like that, they don't need to have a solution for the conflict to go against a genocide.
There has never been a war on the face of the planet that didn't involve innocent people dying. The people protesting have no idea why they are protesting. They are a bunch of bleeding heart mouth breathers that say and do what other people tell them to.
They don't want human beings to suffer you say? Interesting. I seem to see large swathes of these "protesters" blocking roads and not letting cars through. Those are innocent people trying to get to work to put food on the table for their families. Those are innocent people trying to pick their children up. Those are innocent people trying to get to the hospital because someone THEY love is dying. It's no wonder the protestors support Hamas. Neither give a damn about the innocent people around them because the ideology is all that matters. But hey, at least when Hamas hold signs that say "Death to America" they understand what the signs mean.
That's exactly what they said at the start of the video
Blindly supporting one side like thats going to stop genocide is beyond stupid... especially when that side is dedicated to committing genocide.
but they are preaching for a genocide.
In a democracy everyone gets to vote. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. That is free speech. You cannot champion free speech whilst denying it to others.
If someone comes into your house and then proceeds to take over, you'd be angry, too.
Palestine is practically a failed state run by terrorist regimes. Israel is a functioning and inclusive society. Everyone would benefit if the whole place were Israel. Everyone except for the terrorists of course
Like Muslims are doing throughout Europe? Muslim mayor of our capital, an Indian PM, I would say that fits the definition of taking over. From the Balkans to the Sea, Europe will be free.
You're completely missing the point of the video. They didn't say there's no reason to be angry. They said these kids have no idea what they're even protesting, some of them are just virtue signalling activists.
If course RUclips keeps your ignorant comment up but deletes mine just for explaining how wrong you are. It is not their “house.” You need to do some research because what you are defending is a failed state with a brutal oppressive leadership that does nothing good for anyone. Everyone would benefit if the remaining bit was dissolved and became one state. Now let’s see if this comment is vague enough for YT to keep up
I hope you realize that RUclips censors any pro-Israel comments that actually explain how ignorant comments like yours actually are
If I'm showing up to a rally, it means I'm VERY committed to whatever the rally is about. The fact so many people are showing up to rallies without having a clue what it's about is crazy to me
WORKS BOTH WAYS.
Nope, one side has no history of reliberate oppression the other side literally had the largest colonial empire to exist before the europeons ressisted against them and ended up eating them up as well.
I.e Islamic colonialism and apartheid.
Did you know the arabs and muslims had an apartheid system for idk 1200plus years where they kept nonmuslims as ? abolished in 1850's because of western pressures. Oh my bad you thought Israel did something sheesh.
Indeed. Both sides in this conflict are sh!tty (at least when it comes to the leadership and the radicals on both sides).
But still one side suffers more.
But you could go to a pro jewish rally and get the same reaponses...
Nope, though, the pro-israel rallies
1. Accept palestine
2. Are literally peacefull, no flag burning no nothing.
3. Literally Israel has said lay down your weaopons come to the table and negotiate.
So there isn't a comparison between gencodial groups (palestinians cause they have 1200 year history of islamic occupation and apartheid) and peacefull groups (israel - which literally is the only safe haven in the middle east for bahai, ahamdiya and other religious groups etc...)
Bullshit - Jews and Israelis know the history of Israel, they know what Zionism means, thet have way more intellectuals who read books about the subject, and trust me, they ALL know which river and which sea.
@quaesitor-scientiae 1. Isn't true at all... smh for even mentioning that
2. Not true either. I saw 0 flags burning in this video.
There's no truth to anything you said.
1. Are spearheaded by pro-settler groups who absolutely do not accept Palestine, often counter protests where they deliberately antagonise the ceasefire protests
2. Never seen violence or flagburning at propalestine protests
3. Asking for unconditional surrender for one side while Israel continues taking palestinian land and homes with armed force is not as fair as you think it is
I am not Jewish and I will be safe in Isreal but in Palestine Hamas will not let anyone live without fear. Also Isreal is just a better country that believe in peace whereas hamas think they can wipe Jews out of the earth. You Americans don't know anything about radical Islam.
They must have not liked the direction Joe was going, so now we get this LOL
100%
You ppl are insuffreable
Facts, these ppl forgot what a zionist is
Yeah holy shit Joe really backpedaled
Yep they know he’s number one podcaster and they want him to be a Zionist seem out like Jordan Peterson or Alex Jones.. who just recently reflipped.. They also trying to make him push Christianity and get these young men back into churches to be cuckold simps for Israel there too.
What did Benjamin Netanyahu mean by the same phrase someone with actual power?
Watching clips like this I get frustrated that I’m not there to ask questions like this 🤣
When did Netanyahu said that phrase?
@@fafolaw RUclips it right here
It's not that hard do you understand whether they're fully versed or not the bottom line is Palestine is Palestine and the Israeli State seems to be encroaching is that not really the case whether people like to admit it or not
Where's this Palestine you speak of? What are its borders?
The U.N. fairly divided the land between the Jews and the Arabs (who now call themselves Palestinians). The Arabs didn't want the Jews to have any land so they started a war against them but they lost and the Jews won. As a result, the Arabs lost some of their land. That is the consequence of starting wars and then not winning.
Westbank settlers ! After 50 years of it something had to give .
Right, because it's not like the Arabs haven't conquered large tracks of land in Egypt, Libya, Morocco, Sudan, Lebanon and driven the native populations there out and settle their own people there. /s
I'm not educated on this topic, but I'll choose a side and join a protest.
What a melt!
jews murdered 100k Palestinians to create nazi israel
Courtesy of 81 million votes of mostly sheeple
@@stangman962 anyone who loves trump or Biden in their end of term is a sheeple
Like the people who go to trump rallies?
Trump supporters know there were no major wars , gas was cheaper, food was cheaper, and most citizens were safer during trump’s first 3 years compared to now. Guess they’re educated on those facts
They are not well intentioned people
Netanyahu also said from the river to the sea ....forgot that did u
he even showed a map where no Palestine existed and all land was Israel. no media is calling him out on it.
He would like to see ONE STATE of blended Isreal and Palestine...😂😂😂 Dude!!! What rock have you been living under!!
Funny, Israel is the only place in the Middle East where Arabs and Jews live together
He is Jewish, he clearly has a prerogative
Well, if the two-state solution is effectively dead, then what remains is a ONE-state solution, don't you agree? Of course Israel doesn't want this because then it must grant full citizenship rights to 7.2 million Palestinians. Since they're slightly more than the Israelis this would also mean the end of Israel as a Jewish majority country. So, please, let's go down this path and see if Israeli are going to agree or not.
US is also a blended society of blacks latinos natives and whites , why cant Palestinians & jews blend , i know its far from happening but its the only way forward
@@TheInternetFanhey Israel tried 4 times for the 2 state solution…
They can't even locate Palestine on a map. 😂
Because it's not there.
Rogan must be feeling the pressure from the Israel lobby. As far as these two clowns, Bassem Youssef destroyed them on this subject so they need to feel a W.
Lol no.
From the Balkans to the Sea, Europe will be free. Us Europeans need to get behind this slogan, the colonisers, settlers and invaders must go!
What are you talking about,more to the point.
@@ATS_i_piss_on_G00gleget better comprehension skills and read it again
He is talking about stopping and reversing immigration I guess.
Lol 😂 you're s clown
When was the last time Mr. Pseudo-intellectual Konstantin Kisin debated someone who's not on the right(excluding school students)?
Yo, Joe rogan is two faced
Why? Because he doesn't agree with you?
😂😂😂 I love how you give no example
Or he has the ability to see things from multiple sides, because he's not a child.
@@thegentlelivingchannelnope his a Muppet head who only brings the one angled advocates on his podcasts ,bring a true representive of palistine, not wakos
i kind of agree. Joe will say a strong opinion while he is with a guest who supports his opinion. then the other week he will have a guest with the opposite opinion and its like he forgot everything he so passionately said one week earlier.
I like when people open their eyes wide when speaking. Gives alot of validity 😅
yeah how ignorant ....to want peace .
Uh talk to Hamas and explore the peace treaties IRL tried making with them before…also look into who instigated almost every attack
thats not the point he's trying to make.
Because that's totally what Palestine wants, right? Don't protest on behalf of any issue you are not very well versed in.
When thoughts are contextually vacuous, thinking is at best flaccid & at worst cadaverous.Useful idiots are always as well meaning as they are ignorant. Context-free "peace" doesn't make sense, for actual sense-making requires actual knowledge, context-bound, history-informed, evidence-based knowledge. If one doesn't have command of that, then one should shut up.
@@HostileTakeover555why would you bother talking to Hamas and instead talked to those who founded them and still fund them to this day, Israel in the United States.
I love how they never ask the other side 😂
Juden Peterstein: MY MESSAGE TO CHRISTIANS, MY MESSAGE TO MUSLIMS and then a video talking about how great israel is with their pm hahaha
What about the apartheid state?
They're college students who were either born after 9/11 or too young to remember.
What does 9-11 have to do with Israel vs Palestine? Some govt officials actually came out and said Israel was connected to 9/11
@@willyafg People forget what this "religion of peace" is about. Bin laden and his ilk want to bully and intimidate people into converting to islam. If they can't convert you, they will kill you, like they killed the jews on October 7. Or 9/11.
@@willyafg because if you know what Muslims have done in the west you would not support anything to do with Islam, personally as a Brit, I do not care one bit about Palestinians until all Muslim colonisers and invaders leave the UK, every single one. Another case today of 20 Muslim men getting a native child drunk and raping her, every day these stories. How many Muslims were out protesting in their thousands for Ukraine? None as they do not care because they are not Muslim, hence I do not care one bit about them, zero. You say Bin Laden was Jewish? You saying those that blew up the London tube, Manchester concert, raped 1000's of native children, Lee Rigby etc etc were Jewish too? I do not care about behind the scenes or reasons, I only see those that did it and they are all Muslims.
@@willyafg WTF nope, there was a conspiracy started from the 1970's via cold war tactics that got people thinking there was a shadowy group controlling the world. Since the USA has a neccesity to protect its allies Israel gets special treatment due to strategy and probalistic genocide attempts by islamic neighbors.
This lead to conspiracies such as USA did 9/11, zionists did it, the illuminati didd etc...
Congress actually launched an investigation against the United States as well in congress due to these conspiracies. Came out false and was just an operation done by Saudi nationals allied with Osama bin laden's cause.
Remember islamic terrorism always existed since the Hijra (migration - read about it). So people do commit acts of terror without direct association, ISIS literally releases videos on how muslims anywhere can destroy the interests of their countries, cause damages etc....
So yea, blaming israel or jews aint gonna do anything.
There are complexities in military but these are just outlandish stuff.
Inside job
God the ignorance of the commentators is so frustrating seriously…. Israel never wanted all of this. Stop cheering terror and than all will be better
If Israel had not wanted any of this they would not have oppressed the Palestinians for decades. Get real.
😂😂
Israel is happy to continue with the status quo: continue colonizing the West Bank with illegal settlements, expelling Palestiniains from their homes, and caging 1 million children in a concentration camp known as Gaza. I wonder why Palestinians are so angry, ha?
Why do we pay college tuition when they have little practical knowledge after 13-16 years of taxpayer funded schooling? I can’t say education??
Reeducation and indoctrination
Proof most people do not know WTF they are talking about and have nothing better to do with their time!!!
What makes no sense to me about these protestors is that Israel was attacked first, they didn't start the war. It's like blaming Poland for being invaded by Germany in 1939.
you know that Palestinian people are being opressed and held inside an open air prison camp guarded by Israels military cuz they locked them in by building a wall around them with watchtowers and armed guards shooting everyone who comes near the gate unauthorized? and thats just one fact of how people in Gaza are being oppressed. could also talk about settlers driving people off their lands stealing their houses etc.
History didn’t start October 7th bruv.
Do you truly not see the obvious red flags of that attack? Warnings from Egypt and IDF surveillance soldiers about an impending Hamas attack, videos that Hamas published online showing their training exercises, IDF soldiers on both borders, with the exception of a few, being placed on leave, government approving/allowing a large music festival next to a border town despite warning, and then to top it all off, a response time of nearly 7 hours, giving Hamas enough time to kill, ransack, and take hostages back to Gaza.
Also, there is a large blueprint of what Gaza is supposed to look like by 2035 that was signed off by Netanyahu and other Israeli officials. It is essentially a sister city to Dubai, with high end shops and apartments and tourist attractions. You can look up the plans, it’s all in a pdf file.
Now with regards to these very detailed plans for Gaza, it is so long and extensive, and couldn’t possibly have been written after October 7th. These were his plans from the beginning, to allow this attack so he could expand territory, “defeat Hamas,” and gain more support to avoid corruption changes and prison time.
At least they are doing something against the genocide . And what are you doing complaining against the anti war people?
“At least they are doing something to help support the terrorist group Hamas.”
There…all fixed.
stupid people have always been dangerous so I disagree they are not bad
It’s ok everyone, me and ChatGPT solved it.
1. **Direct Negotiations:** Facilitate direct, meaningful negotiations between Israeli and Palestinian leaders to address core issues such as borders, security, Jerusalem, refugees, and settlements.
2. **Two-State Solution:** Support the establishment of an independent and viable Palestinian state alongside Israel, based on the pre-1967 borders (with mutually agreed-upon land swaps), with Jerusalem as the capital for both states.
3. **International Support:** Engage international stakeholders, including regional powers, the United Nations, and relevant organizations, to provide diplomatic, economic, and security support for the implementation of negotiated agreements and confidence-building measures.
Saying Palestinian citizens allowed Hamas is like saying US citizens allowed crips and bloods
They do allow Bloods and Crips
Did the US vote the crips and bloods into power. Hamas is a group that wants to wipe Israel off the map.
They voted for them in 2005!
@@gpower9572: why was Hamas created in 1986?
77% of Palestinians support Hamas's action on 10/7. there is a clear issue with those people. this is also the reason why most Arab countries don't want Palestinians.
2/3 of Israel land all ready taken for the Arab sheikhs country with 80% palstinan her name ? Yes jorden remember the river ?
Arafat was Egyptian citizen . Plastinan became plastinan at 1964! When Egypt owned gaza and jorden owned the west bunk....every jew before 1947 had plastinan i.d from the mandat😊 the arabs refused 5 peace agreements since 1947. In israel 25% palstinan citizens with full rights
in arabs country palstinan territory no jews aloud . Muhammad Haniyeh's sister received citizenship by virtue of family reunification like many other Palestinians from East Jerusalem or from the Lahtab community who fled to Israel or by virtue of family reunification in Israel. More than a hundred thousand in less than a decade. It dropped drastically after terrorist attacks by those united.
Go do homework lazy students
This
what is plastinan ?
The best thing these students are doing is not to listen to people like you who has no problem seeing the war crimes before his eyes on a daily basis and still ok with it!!!!!
lol. 99% of human history is based on "war crimes". how do you think "palestinians" got the land? by asking nicely? muslim ARABS come from saudi ARABia. they have conquered all of north africa and almost all of the middle east - through violence and war. you doofus.
@@obiwankenobi661lol, seriously. The naivete in display here is staggering.
Ah Konstantin Kisin, the guy who claims he isn't right wing while parroting every right wing talking point you can possibly think of.
have you ever considered that the Left have gone so fuckin far LEFT that anyone who isnt a communist crazy person is right wing now? lmao calm tf down and look at what progressives have done to yall.
Right-wingers are pro-America... not pro-israel or ukraine.
Konstantine, is a leftist ju.
How can a 🔯 be right wing? Do you even know what that means? The real right aren't philosemitic like the Kosher controlled right are
7:00 Economic growth? Really? Wonder which countries imposed economic blockade on Gaza over the last 2 decades. Or which country bombed Gaza's airport -- you need one for economic growth and development right? This guy doesn't know much about Gaza, does he? Perhaps he himself is no different than the people he accuses of being ill-informed.
I think you are missing his point. He is just saying that part of the solution is for both states to start focusing on their own economic growth. He is not saying Palestine are the bad guys. He is just giving his opinion but he is pretty aware that both sides are pretty focus on attacking each other.
He's a Jew from Israel. Israel vacated all Jewish settlements from Gaza and the west bank, and allowed them to vote in democratic elections. Guess what, they threw all of it under the bus and chose Hamas to free them "from the river to the sea". Their choice of leadership, their self-created blockade, and their lack of economic growth is not anyone else's fault. There are plenty of Muslim Arabs who are free to work and have citizenship in Israel. In fact they have their own political parties. The residents of Gaza don't WANT it. That's the difference.
@@1986LuisK
Palestine is controlled by another state Israel & therefore has no chance to grow its economic state.
Egypt did.
@@pjtufty66What investmemt had Palestine made in its own economic development? Google where Palestine gets its electricity... Hamas can spend $100-300 million on its military but they dont have their own power plant?
Joe looking like Voldemort
Regardless of all the technicals, clearly Israel’s military response is disproportionately affecting Palestinians rather than Hamas and that’s the problem
It’s not very complicated! It’s the most simple things! Rocket science is complicated! Travelling to mars is complicated yet we were able to do all those things. The “it’s complicated” is just an excuse you use because you don’t want to solve the problem. There is no problem without a solution. It’s a matter of wanting and not wanting. These British colonial citizens have no shame. The audacity to try to portray people who are calling for peace and justice as idiots.
They most certainly are not interested in justice. They never express any concern for the hostages or the Israelis who were slaughtered and raped by Hamas. People interested in peace also wouldn't use the purposefully vague "river to the sea" mantra knowing that some people justifiably see it as having genocidal intent.
hes conclusion is as pathetic as the comments of those barely human protesters...
This guy is the biggest clown
Why ?
@@foxmulderfbiufo1770because he's saying something OP dosent agree with and his smooth brain can't handle it
Just a 🔯 being a 🔯
@@ColmPadraig you ppl need to grow up
@@WhiteBoyTariq Growing up is reading books and realising the entire history of and subversive nature of these people. Perhaps you could read evolutionary psychologist Proffesor Kevin MacDonalds book, A culture of critique.
Title: "Pro-Palestine Supporters are Clueless"
Actual Video: 5 Pro-Palestine supporters are clueless as to how to end a genocide or a religious conflict that has been brewing since '48. According to the guest, activists fall into two main categories. Category A is Protestors, who aren't fully informed on the subject but know enough to understand that there is a genocide going on and while they don't have the solution or power to end a genocide, they'd still like our government to do something about it. Category B is Pragmatists, who will make sure they understand the issue fully and develop their own individual ideas as to potential solutions before taking any action.
This conflict hasn't "been brewing since '48". The grand mufti of palestine, Mohammed Amin al-Husseini, demanded all of the region to be free of Jews in the 1920s already. He worked closely with the third reich on achieving that final solution and collaborated with the holocaust. Nazi Germany began financing the Palestinians in the 30s because they feared a two-state-solution and a jewish state. Hitler said "the arabic freedom movement in the middle orient is our natural ally" in 1941. Al Husseini did even live in Nazi-Germany for a few years to learn from the Germans on establish "a modern and just" state. Germany historians call that the "islam-fascism". It's no wonder Adolf Hitler is so famous and beloved in Palestine. The basis of their idea of building their own state is intertwined with Nazi Germany. If you don't believe me look up Mohammed Amin al-Husseini on the German wikipedia and translate that article into English. It is well written and has about 170 references listed.
@@Kialok
Its meant to be one sided.
Read up on Ronald Storrs .
The Man who helped create the distrust of catholics/protestants in Ireland that led to war .
After 1920 where did he end up . Storrs became the 1st British General governor of Jerusalem & asked about helping zionism he replied
Our aim is to create a loyal little Jewish Ulster in the middle East to guard against a hostile sea of Arabism.
Don't just blame the British for this.
The US helped creating Ronald Storrs project.
Storrs also ended up in Cyprus.
3 long term wars
Ulster/Ireland Palestine Jerusalem/Israel
Cyprus Turkey/Greece .
Who said it was only about religion.
It's only ever been about Control & Money.
Lots of Oil means lots of Money.
They're all manipulated into being pro Hamas, it goes to show how far the grip of social media has them.
@@Kialokeven before then the European was asking themselves the question of what to do with the Jews? Even the Jews asked themselves that what are we going to do?
Cant change barbaric religion
Zionism? Totally agree.
@@kameelsabri2382 there are Arabic and muslin zioniest . Zion it's Jerusalem. zionisem mean that jews deserves to a country in the land of Israel.
Every jew before 1948 had a I.d of the palstian mandat. Arafat was Egyptian citizen yes the father of the palstinan who became palstinan only at 1964. Egypt rolled gaza jorden rolled the west bunk...the Arab really refused 5 times to peace offers not the jews .
2/3 of Israel land all ready taken for the Arab sheikhs of the Saudi West The land is called Jordan with 80% of palstinan . In Israel itself there are 25% muslim citizens with all the rights including Mohammed Haniyeh's sister who received citizenship by virtue of family reunification....please go learn a bit....
@niv2516 mate your vocabulary is awful. I'm not the one who has to go and learn. What you said is completely inaccurate, just admit you're a pro genocidal maniac of the Palestinian people.
you should change your uneducated comment
@@niv2516 There are literally areas of Israel where Palestinians/Arabs are not allowed to buy a home in. Please stop watching clips of biased BS and do research on both sides. The zio virtue signaling is insane these days. Remember: Israel killed 200 US navy men on the USS Liberty and there were 0 repercussions. Israel is not our ally. Israel was caught trying to stage a false flag bombing in Egypt. This event was called the "Lavon Affair" - go look it up. They got caught trying to bomb American and British civilians in Egypt. Israel is NOT OUR ALLY. Stop drinking the zio virtue signaling koolaid bro. Also, if Russia comes into America and steals land and then says "Okay lets's split the country up 70-30" do you think America would take that deal? Use your brain man
You didn't know anything about the X vs Australia dispute but you pontificated about it. Hypocrisy!
The Black Keys having a different look
lol their next album is gonna be interesting 😆
You dont have to be a historian, or a professor to be against a genocide being committed!
Very few wouldn't be against a genocide, but firstly who's to say a genocide is being committed, and secondly with all the other conflicts with many more times the casualties why the extreme focus on condemning an actor (Israel) who was exposed to their citizens being slaughtered indiscriminately and is responding to that in some kind of way, rather precisely. Holodomor caused up to 10 million people to starve as part of a conscious strategy whatever you want to call it, and still it's not considered officially a genocide
So you’re against Hamas then…..
If you're against genocide, you're OK in my book. Now, let me explain what "from the river to the sea" means. First, that phrase is a ZIONIST phrase. Originally, it describe Israel's plan to annex all Palestinian land, not only the land they stole since 1948, but also the Gaza Strip and the West Bank (which is in the East, but it's called the that way because in is the WEST bank of the Jordan river). So, the phrase was a call to genocide against Palestinians.
But, Palestinians appropriated that phrase and turned it into a liberation slogan, "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!" It is a rejection of the two-state solution. Because, of course no country has the right to exist on land stolen from another country. It means that from the river Jordan, to the Mediteranean sea, there should be only ONE country, PALESTINE, and this country will be founded on the principles of human rights and justice for all its citizens, regardless of their ethnicity, religion etc. So, you see, both the Zionists and the Palestinians want all the land. But the Zionists want the land of the indigenous people and they want a fascist country, while the Palestinians simply want their land back, human rights and democracy.
But you don't need to know all that to be against GENOCIDE!! It's enough to see the images from Gaza to want to overthrow your government for not condemning Israel!
Usually when there are disagreements over whose land is who’s, people go to war. There are winners and losers in war. They have fought before. Palestine lost. They fought again, and Palestine lost. They aren’t accepting the loss, they are fighting again. It’s really not that complicated.
@@chadbrambers8346 EXCEPT the Zionist invasion and genocide of the Palestinians happened AFTER WW2. After we decided NEVER AGAIN!
The entire existence of Israel is against international law.
@@chadbrambers8346 true! but at least let´s be clear about it! thare are no good and bad guys here and if we had to choose one bad guy, to me, it looks like Israel is on the side of the attacker, the invader
@@chadbrambers8346 That's pre WWI. The law of the jungle and strongest empires. There were no 'disagreements over whose land is who's for a 1400 years until Europeans who call themselves Jews made up a thing from a fairy tale book filled with errors and contradictions. If the law of the jungle is what you support, then don't cry tomorrow when the tables turn!
@@chadbrambers8346
Wrong when 1 siide is loaded with backing.
Its meant to be one sided.
Read up on Ronald Storrs .
The Man who helped create the distrust of catholics/protestants in Ireland that led to war .
After 1920 where did he end up . Storrs became the 1st British General governor of Jerusalem & asked about helping zionism he replied
Our aim is to create a loyal little Jewish Ulster in the middle East to guard against a hostile sea of Arabism.
Don't just blame the British for this.
The US helped creating Ronald Storrs project.
Storrs also ended up in Cyprus.
3 long term wars
Ulster/Ireland Palestine Jerusalem/Israel
Cyprus Turkey/Greece .
Who said it was only about religion.
It's only ever been about Control & Money.
He himself is more clueless than the protestors. How can they live in peace together when isreal is only giving citizenship to jews. Isreal has a huge army. Are you for real brother. You have no clue what you are saying
Israel gives citizens to arabs from east Jerusalem and lgbtq or queers on daily routine and like Reunification of more than 100,000 families in less than a decade, this decreased drastically after terrorist attacks by those reuniting.
You don't know what are talking about Mohammed Haniyeh's sister lives in Israel today as a citizen!!
Each country has its own citizenship laws including the right of return. Not only for Israel, check and update the crowd
@@niv2516 then Palestinians have the right to return to their homes from which they were expelled. Them Palestinians should have the right to have army and keep nuclear weapons and then Palestinians should be allowed the membership of UN and Palestinians should have the right to defend themselves. Palestinians, in fact the whole world has the right to visit Al aqsa masjid. Why are there check points for Palestinians
Arabs, including outright Islamists, have several seats in the Knesset. Amazing how they got there when only Jews can be citizens.
@@niv2516they also fund hamas so they have an excuse for the Palestinian holocaust that’s happening
"just have economic growth, security, and everyone be happy!" on par with the dumb protestors bro, you havent proven anything or done anything either
What about the Crusaders.
never NEVER in history has a land just been arbitrarily given to a small group of people just because they were (among others)...the British fought and took the Falkland islands even though it's part of Argentina, Pilgrims just told Indians, our land now, every single other war and land swap in the formation of the world today. Jews did it for survival, they got persecuted in Russia (pogroms), they got persecuted in Europe, they came to the land owned by Ottoman Empire and later Britain and France and had to fight the arabs because they did not welcome them. Palestinians decided to elect terrorists and are now pikachu face getting attacked for real after slaughtering a music festival and people's homes. Yeah...left woke is nuts dude.
Did it for survival? Are you kidding me? They did it because they were nothing but thieves then and still are today. They lived in peace in Palestine up until 1945. Go read up on Nakba.
@mariannorton4161 Following the Partition Vote, Palestinian leaders issued a chilling declaration, vowing to resolve the Jewish problem "in blood and fire," reminiscent of the Nazi's "Final Solution." This genocidal threat aimed to expel Jews from the region. The Nakba, or catastrophe, ensued with the outbreak of the Arab-Israeli War, as multiple Arab nations, including Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Iraq, launched attacks against the newly established state of Israel. Go read a history book.
@@mariannorton4161 they lawfully purchased land... the land was previously the ottoman empire's and then transferred post WWII...so what thievery are you talking about?
@@friendlyskiespodcast ben gurion, the head of the israeli state at the nakba, said they had only been able to purchase 5.9% of the land. try to read more history
@@yousefzoubi5775 I don't understand how you guys think the concept of losing a war...still entitles you to whatever you want and then play the victim when it suits.
My beautiful girl friend was their and as a Christian she was fully respected by all she got to see all the sights in isresl places in the west babk as nd very small time in gaza my Christians live in isresl many Muslims heve live in isreal in work politics but nothing in Muslim held zones who would u like to take care of and defend Christians sights isreal protects them same ss Muslim holy places did u srr what Muslim do to each other would u trust them in power of Christians sites look st Afghanistan they blee up thousands of year old buddas sane in sira irack libyia jew are not all great but im juda Christian in Iraq they blue up each others holy sites
May I ask a question: is this an antidote or blind side approach to this?
It really bothers me when Americans can’t think and understand for themselves.
It’s evident.
Didn't you notice the English accents? This was in London, not the US.
activist mindset ... yes i also notice it
Did that Muslim just preach at me about oppression?
But they’re being oppressed by Hamas not Israel. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️😡😡
They wouldn't exist without Isreal stealing their land
these kids nowadays just want something to be a part of this is absolutely ridiculous
That’s rubbish. A grifter like Konstantin wonders around clipping certain people and not others. There are plenty of people who have a good idea about the issues and history of the conflict. Most people are protesting on the simple fact that tens of thousands have been killed in a disproportionate asymmetry war. Well done on your solution at the end, otherwise known as the 2 state solution, denied to the Palestinian people for decades and vetoed on every UN vote for statehood by the US.
Was Dresden an unjustified genocide?
And yet the protesters didn't know anything.
The palestians have been offered a 2-state solution mutiple times brother
@@WhiteBoyTariqThe Israelis never wanted a 2 state solution either let's be real here
@@WhiteBoyTariqZionist apologist in the comments, their 'deal' was legalized occupation. Learn your facts.
What they are is goofy
Because they hurt your feelings ? Do you have any facts into why they are wrong ? Or you just having an emotional response
It's almost like all those books at Columbia knock some sense into them.
If u kill others not with your religion than you cant change their mind
i only know these guys from the Bassem Youssef interview and the one guy kept saying "i dont have an agenda" over and over. now i know why he did that cuz he is clearly all agenda. he is also doing the same thing he did in the Youssef talk where he acts like the other side makes no sense at all times and 6:37 "its complicated, very very complicated"
Just NPC’s
Free Palestine
End the occupation
The word Palestine in Hebrew = Israel.
Building a mosque on top of Judaism's holiest site because of an illiterate child marrying Arab warlords winged donkey ride in the afterlife.
Maybe build a synagogue on top of the Ka'aba in Mecca then cry about occupation.
You don't need to be geography teacher to see injustice.
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Any excuse to protest, but don't actually know what there protesting for? Wow
Protesters who can’t answer basix questions. Embarrassing
I dont agree with the pro Palestinian protesters but 100% support their right to protest ..Just as pro Israeli supporters have the same right ..Just keep it peaceful.. That's the only standard ..
Lol
Thousands of years
Of what ?
Blame HAMAS
Blame Netanyahu for supporting Hamas to counter Fatah
@@mamkam100 he's seems like the only person going against HAMAS. Good thing he's a leader
The man that fed the beast will protect you from its bite.
HAMAS literally commits war crimes
@@mamkam100 Don't you know that the small hat Marc is wearing indicates the size of his brain? Blaming Khhhhhamas is a broken song. Who was to blame before Hamas's existence (1987)?? 40 years of conflict forgotten?
jew jew jew jew
FROM THE NILE RIVER TO THE RED SEA!
That studio reeks of ganja, farts and unwarranted self-importance.
It's shocking that you say that young college students are out of touch with reality and they have no concept of maturity or what actually goes on in the world. By the way if you didn't get it that's sarcasm
It’s not just cool to protest, it’s way uncool not to. 😎
I claim to be able to do something that no God can do and that is show up for dinner in person if invited.
Since I can do something no God can do no God can claim omnipotence.
Debate that.
Y
Most of the Palestinians in Gaza have families living of that land going back twenty generations or more. Is this true of most of the Israelis? Er, no. So whose country is this, exactly?
History? Indigenous? Jews have been in Jerusalem thousands of years before some illiterate Arab warlord took his winged donkey ride in the afterlife.
Palestinians are largely arabic so no. the ottomans were colonists
@@GM-vr2yh The fact the lands were colonized by Ottomans and later the British does not alter the fact the Arabs have had many generations going back hundreds of years living in these parts. Do you deny this? Or believe it is irrelevant.
Free Palestine
They didnt sound ill-informed to me. Sure, the girl hesitated when Kissin said: "That's It?", becuase he was hinting that she had missed something, which she hadnt. And after fishing all day for a stupid clip, that's the best he could get....
Biased view
sure thing, ahmed.
he is a jew
@@obiwankenobi661 Ok shlomo....
This guy is just a dishonest guy. Ask him about ukraine and you'll see him do a complete 180.
"your honor, i am innocent because there are also other bad things in this world"
he is just jewish
That's because his family grew up in the Soviet Union. Israel is a far cry from the USSR and what they did to those countries they invaded.
@@8rr725 stealing is wrong for you not for me. Thats his only argument. Hence why i made the comparism.
The "anti-woke" IDW are all a bunch of closet Zionists trying to insert their ideology into everything.
Israel is trying to take Palestinian and that considered OK. But if Palestinian people say they want to take Israel it's considered bad.
The US media is completely one sided on this issue.
No, Israel bent over backwards to facilitate a two-state solution and Palestine's terrorist leadership has repeatedly refused. Get your facts straight.
Konstantin says let’s argue semantics while kids are being blown up.
Shuddup, ju.
OY VEY
When you are pro Israeli and you don't want to admit that you are pro Israeli
ok, ahmed.
@@obiwankenobi661 it is not that deep , poor choice of words .
So you think a bunch of spoiled rich kids carrying signs they can't explain to protest a situation they have zero context and historic understanding of is all good?? 😂
@@thegentlelivingchannel are they richer than zionists kids?!
@@thegentlelivingchannel are they richer than zionists kids?? Do you think zionists fake lying history is a legit proof of knowledge?
From the river to the sea
Palestine 🇵🇸 will be free!
Like it or not.
Israel isn't going anywhere....
You do know that the "Palestinian's" are not indigenous to Israel... They mostly migrated there from Syria and Jordan after the destruction of the Kingdom of Judea by the Romans.
No thanks…there’s a reason why Egypt won’t take them in either…
Yes, part of it is because Egypt wont be complicit in ethnic cleansing. Displacing a larger population. Now they are Egypt's problem even the terrorists.
@@HostileTakeover555u support israel? so u must support those verses too whats the difference between u and muslims hehehe
Until people finally abandon these human-created non-sensical useless religions, these problems will continue.
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA THE PALESTINIAN WOMEN BETTER NOT EXPECT THE SAME RIGHTS AS ME,,, says every PALESTINIAN man ever born
Protesting is the new fad. Who cares what you're protesting?
Roth had a child (money) Rock is feller (oil) Black is a rock (control)and they want u ded by immigration.
I don't like pop up ads.
I don’t like Fromunda Cheese.
Norman Finkelstein is educated on this topic yet Triggernometry have booked him 3 times and cancelled him 3 times. I wonder why 🤔