Jay: "Here's a relevant fact about a stunt actor in this film series we're actively covering that is related to another film in this very series" Mike: "Wow you're pathetic." Mike: "This random actor in (insert any film) was in one episode of Star Trek and I will now spend 5-15 minutes talking about that" Jay: "Neat"
Another connection, both part 8 and Short Circuit 2 tried to pass off Canadian cities as NYC. And of course the scene where Johnny 5 punches that guys head off
Personally, I like Jason X as a y2k time capsule. It’s hilarious. My favorite detail is how a spaceship hundreds of years in the future is still using apple power Mac displays.
The jump cut to Jason in the simulation room slamming the two girls in the sleeping bags is one of the funniest things I've ever seen in a slasher movie
A couple of years ago I witnessed a very uncomfortable scene at a horror movie festival. Adam Marcus was presenting his new film, and introduced himself as the director of Jason Goes to Hell. Cue not one single clap and a very embarrassed director.
@@ToniMcGinty Don't know how you manage to do that. Are there drugs involved when you watch it? I really didn't expect much when I watched it and was still bored to tears. There's, like, hundreds of B-movies with better entertainment potential, IMO.
@@jf1573I predict "it's like poetry; it rhymes" will persist in the English language as a way to say something is terrible for hundreds of years, long after everyone forgets who George Lucas was.
As a kid I never would have expected that something that would cheer me up the most as an adult would be when some middle-aged guys from the American Midwest uploads videos of them sitting in chairs talking about movies and stuff. And yet here we are.
Been a fan of RLM for a couple years now, and one thing I love about them is that they never have sponsors or tell anyone to "like, comment and subscribe" (unless they do it sarcastically), and never even mention their patreon, merch or anything (other than in their channel description).
That's because they're already so successful that they don't have to. They're aware of how fortunate they are. Smaller and newer creators don't have that luxury. (Please note that I'm just saying this out of sympathy. I'm not a RUclipsr.)
Yes! They have integrity, unlike most others on RUclips. Chris Stuckman actually did an ad for a Sony produced Ghostbusters video game in his review of GB: Afterlife. Not surprisingly, he gave the movie a positive review.
I feel like part of it is also a sort of respect for their audience. Of COURSE they want os to like, comment, and subscribe. Of course they want us to buy the merch and join the patreon. But they give us the credit where they assume we're capable enough to do that on our own if we want to. We're not 12 year olds who need to be moved by a Call To Action™. People will like if they like it. People will subscribe if they want more. Etc. And RLM leaving that to us, instead of telling us to do it, feels, to me, like respect for their audience. It's a very low bar, yet somehow they're one of the very few channels who clear it.
RedLetter inspires me.. My parents said if i get 70K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally Begging...
Mike deserves much worse for making everyone deal with his Ghost Adventures fetish and his deeply concerning, far from platonic, love for Zak Baggins which may need a restraining order if it progresses much further. For his crimes against Red Letter Media, his audience, and humanity as a whole, Mike should be forced to endure a movie marathon of the entirety of The Conjuring, Insidious, and Saw franchises. Strap Mike into a potty chair and apply a mild electrical shock every time he starts to drift off and fall asleep or go to his mental Star Trek happy place. That is justice my friend. That IS true justice. Sadly, it is also illegal in the 48 contiguous states, violates the Geneva conventions, and makes baby Jesus cry, but a Baggins level crime can only be met with a Baggins level punishment. Luckily Zak would be interested in purchasing Mike's potty chair that will surely be haunted after this experience.
It’s wild that Mike says it’s “like talking to a 14 year old” when Jay has Friday the 13th trivia, considering that Mike is a *Trekkie*. Pot & Kettle scenario.
There is a book, Friday the 13th: The Jason Strain, where a prison island experiment with inmates. They are injected with "The Jason Strain" virus that gives them rage and super strength while they compete in a game show. The owner wants to use Jason's DNA to unlock immortality. And then Jason shows up and starts battling the super powered contestants. They need to make this shit a movie.
You ever read the story Aliens: Phalanx? There are all of these shitty attempts at bringing back the Alien franchise while that gem floats around in obscurity
I've been reading through the Jason X novels and they have some really cool stuff. Planet of the Beast has Jason just walking around on 'Planet 666' that immediately kills any normal person that comes into contact with the atmosphere.
I love that Kelly Hu who plays one of Jason’s victims in part 8 was able to move into voice acting. So that she can work on projects like MKX, a game that would have Jason as a guest character.
I love that two people from Friday the 13th: A New Beginning are in return of the Living Dead, both which came out in 1985. The black guy who gets killed in the crapper after singing with his girlfriend played Spider in Return of the Living Dead. The guy at the beginning of A New Beginning who kills the other guy with the axe played Suicide in Return of the Living Dead.
@@Eisenwulf666 I don't know if you replied before or after I edited the comment, I forgor to write "drunk", yhat was my bad. That said, there's only one drunk hobo at RLM. 😉
You know Jason X is a true Vancouver production when two of its stars are pulled from the old Kevin Sorbo syndicated show, Andromeda. Probably even borrowed some sets.
@@willandwillstudios Yeah NO....The rights weren't some horror show.....New Line/ Cunningham owned the rights to Jason, Pamela Vorhees and Crystal Lake. The ONLY thing they didn't have the rights to was the actual Friday the 13th name and, they could not reference anything from the previous films, that's why it was Jason Goes to Hell, Jason X. The only thing that actually prevented them from doing it, besides that comic is god awful and stupid is Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell who wanted complete control and wanted Ash to kill Freddy and Jason.
Jason goes to Hell actually was supposed to tie Jason to Evil Dead. Originally it was supposed to be the Pamela Voorhees used the Necronomicon to bring Jason back as a dead deadite, and even the dagger that kills him at the end was meant to be the Kandairian Dagger from Evil Dead, but they couldn't get the rights to do the tie in stuff, so now it's just an Easter Egg.
No it wasn't...That was never an idea until that stupid awful comic came out.....That was NOT meant to be anything more than an easter egg for evil dead fans in Jason goes to hell, because the director knew sam raimi. They literally say it in Crystal Lake Memories, he thought they looked cool, he knew Sam Raimi so he asked him IF he could put them in the movie as an easter egg. There was NEVER meant to be anything about Jason being a deadite, nothing about the necronomicon, they were just mean to be "cool" easter eggs.
@@lutherheggs451 Literally a quote from Adam Marcus to Syfy Wire in 2018 "When we were pre-producing the movie, Bob Kurtzman and the guys at KNB said we're gonna do the effects on the movie. So I got to go on Sam Raimi's set for Army of Darkness. I asked Bob if Sam would lend me the Necronomicon for Jason Goes To Hell. I let Bob in on my secret plan and knew I couldn't say Deadite or Evil Dead in the movie because Universal owned the rights. If I just take that prop and put it in the Voorhees house, and use the Kandarian dagger as the thing that kills Jason, what I'm doing is setting up a mythology that Jason's mom wanted her so back so badly that she made a deal with the darkness. So she reads from the Necronomicon and brings about the resurrection of her son, so now the fact he lived at the bottom of the lake and grows two feet makes sense."
I love that that guy was so set on the “purity” of the Friday the thirteenth franchise that he was legitimately ready to reject reality “evil dead fans are losers how dare you suggest that my stupid franchise be connected “
Mike, with no irony at all, put Jay on blast for his knowledge of Friday the 13th actors, while in the same video and many times in the past has done the same thing with Star Trek. I love it.
I love that Mike compares Jay to a 14 year old and then later mentions Babylon 5, Star Trek Deep Space 9, etc. Let's be honest, we're all still 14 year olds.
@@SnoopyReads Ouch in a lot of ways I think DS9 is the best of star trek and it copied Babylon 5 in a lot of ways. So if anything the best thing star trek ever did was a Straczynski vehicle with a better budget.
I have it, it owns. I like to undo people's belts while they're carrying heavy stuff so that they can't stop their pants from sliding down, usually they trip and fall.
Mike singing the intro music, while both him and Jay do the "Old Man" dance had me in tears. Love the videos you guys put out, and hope you all have a very Happy Halloween
Jay, making Mike watch every horror movie known to mankind: “I have such sights to show you.” I can’t wait for the entire Hellraiser series next Halloween! Thanks again lads!
Oh thank goodness! I am so grateful that Mike said that the ending of part 8, when Jason turned to a child was probably in Rennie's mind. Every other reviewer claims that the toxic waste transformed him, with absolutely no regard to the possibility that it was just another hallucination.
Being a young chilld watching the Friday series - out of order and lacking wisdom at that age - my earliest conception of Jason Vorhees was that he was ALWAYS an undead killing machine, having IN FACT ( not a dream sequence ) risen from the lake at the end of the first movie to avenge his mother.
They really got famous voice actor Mike Stoklasa to sing their intro acapella for the second half of a Friday the 13th discussion. Red Letter Media is really upping the quality these days.
Rich and Mike have taught me so much about star trek that I was able to immediately recognize the actor and remember which episode of season 1 he was in. (I have never seen a single episode of star trek before in my life)
The unmasking of Jason (and the following standoff) in Part 7 is a truly terrifying moment in the series. Had that movie not been butchered post production, it very well could have been the best of the lot.
When the town's people got together and chanted "Evil Dies tonight!" I felt that, and it reminded of the BLM rallies and marches I used as cover to loot VCRs
Batman ‘89 was the first movie I saw by myself in theatres and the only preview I remember was for Jason Takes Manhattan. It was just zooming in on Jason from above and behind while Sinatra songs New York New York
Dream Warriors wasn't bad, but in hindsight it may have been a mistake to cross over with the Police Academy franchise and have Jason go on wacky cop adventures with Mahoney and Tackleberry.
This needs to continue with Freddy vs Jason and the 2009 remake!! Remake's Jason is my favorite portrayal of the character and the intro of that movie is goated
I still want a movie where Jason walks home from New York to Crystal Lake - encountering people along the way who render him the hero by default because of how awful they are. He "saves" a little girl, she thanks him and runs away, he finally makes it back to the shack, caresses his Mother's head, sits down, and just SLEEPS.
@@barahng Yeah basically, I always wanted to see Jason help a kid (but not without scarring them for life and terrifying the hell out of them). I wish Don't Breathe 2's plot had been used for a Jason film, that way, a rapist wouldn't have been the anti-hero.
Jay said that no one knew what was going on and had agency by trying to stop Jason until Tommy, but he forgot about the guy who showed up in the same movie Tommy was introduced. The guy with the gun who lived in a tent who wanted to avenge his murdered sister. AKA the guy who got killed by Jason in the Basement while yelling he's killing me!
Jason X is the greatest, stupidest horror movie of my childhood, and I'm so glad they appreciated it for what was. That sleeping bag scene is still one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
On Mike’s last point about extensively planning out a horror franchise ahead of filming, your average audience might wonder why there were so many setups and lore in the movie when all they wanted were some creative kills and jump scares
The way Jay loves the Friday the 13th movies (as Mike says he’s like a 14 year old) is the same way I love these movies. I don’t care if it’s embarrassing or juvenile, lol. I’m loving this re:View guys! 🤘🏻🤣
I envision a young man, experiencing ‘Jason 9’ as his first foray into the ‘Friday the 13th’ series. He might find himself puzzled by the stark contrast in Jason’s character across the different films, particularly with regards to the loss of his body switching powers and the absence of the established magical Voorhees lore.
55:30 My theory on the Halloween stuff is that DGG mentions how he originally pitched a two part film, but then didn't want to blow their load if people hated the first. So he put together his best ideas that would work for a single film. When the movie was more successful than anybody could ever predicted, he revisited those unused ideas and try to make movies revolve around them. With Exorcist I have no idea what they were going at other than the demon who is not mentioned by name in the film is credited as Lamastu on wikipedia and other websites is said to be rival to Pazuzu. So maybe the idea was to do a vomit kamehameha fight with Pazuzu in the sequels.
I wouldn't say the way Tommy was trying to kill Jason was completely made up. The Wikipedia on draugr (superhuman Norse revenant) states that "In legends, the hero would often have to wrestle the draugr back to his grave, thereby defeating him," vampires need to be staked into their coffins so they can't escape them again, and undead creatures having some weakness in whatever originally killed them is hardly a novel idea. The real problem is that, according to part 2, Jason didn't actually drown in the lake to begin with
There is literally a scene where he is sitting in his truck reading a book about "the occult"....That is literally where he gets the idea from, he didn't have that idea until that scene
The first Jason movie that I watched was "Jason X" behind my parents back cause they told me it was too "scary", so when I did I remember being so disappointed because I was not scared, in fact I thought it was too funny actually, after that day till now I never trusted my parents ever again
9:31 A neat explanation would've been that the ghost of Jason's mother is haunting him, keeping him alive and guiding him. Jason himself is a juggernaut.
As a child I’d always imagine Jason beating up/ killing what scared me.. He was more of a superhero to me :p Will always be one of my favorite characters of all time.
Seriously! Since they FAILED to review the recent _Crimes of the Future_ at all, we need Jay and Josh doing a review that covers his original student film version, as well as the recent feature.
As i said on the last one. I liked Tina. She was the only character I remember pulling for to live in the whole series. Good to see someone not just do something stupid and died. Was it silly? Yes. Was it fun? Yes. And also she was a good actress. Glad she refused to come back just to die.
Tina exists because they couldn't get the rights to use the actual Carrie. It was discussed and they did look into it but were told no so they just created their own legally distinct character.
@@lutherheggs451 The movie was pitched as "Jason vs Carrie" in a figurative sense but they never actually tried to get Carrie. Dunno where you're pulling your false info from, unless you're either trolling or getting confused with the fact that they originally wanted part VII to be Freddy vs Jason but New Line told them no.
I'd always wondered how and why out of nowhere her healthy and seemingly alive dad burst through the dock to grab Jason. It makes so much more sense that he was supposed to be a decaying corpse.
I don't care either way. They set up something in the beginning and paid it off in the end. That's more than I expect from a Friday the 13th movie. I think the filmmakers went with the normal-looking dad so that the audience would recognize him.
@@SupremeGreatGrandmaster The movie was very heavily censored before release. When Jay talks about it at 17:30, there are photos of the original corpse-dad make-up as well as a clip of corpse-dad in the original work-print. Normal-dad almost certainly was never the filmmaker's intent; it was just one of the many things that had to be removed or re-shot to appease seemingly near puritanical censors.
@@Hu...R-U2024 Around the 1980s, there was a massive "moral guardians" (parents, Christians, politicians, etc) movement pushing for heavier censorship all around Tipper Gore waged her war against the music industry. Jesse Helms waged his war against Robert Mapplethorpe and the art industry. Satanic Panic was in full swing. Leaders like Jerry Falwell and Billy Graham pushed the Christian fundamentalists forward. And of course there were complaints about movies showing graphic violence, gore, and "objectionable" content in general. The MPAA went particularly hard against slasher movies. Movies had to be hacked apart to avoid the deadly X rating. X was seen as the "pornography" rating, and regular theaters wouldn't show X-rated films. In 1990, the X rating was retired and replaced by the NC-17 rating, and the MPAA started relaxing again.
Jason on a boat does sound like a fantastic setting given the isolation and the lack of escape routes. Maybe the coward of the group takes the only escape raft and gets eaten by sharks to enforce that swimming isn't an option. The cast can try fixing the engine or calling for the coast guard as Jason continues picking them off, the premise really has a lot of potential. I'd even have it end on a cliffhanger with a seemingly drowned Jason walking out to shore with Manhattan in the distance, than you can have an actual Jason Takes Manhattan sequel.
It IS a good idea. The heroes would have to figure a way to get Jason into the water so he drowns without getting killed by him. They'd have to trick Jason and trap him.
Here's a thought: the boat Jason gets on is a anti-oil drilling protest boat. He kills a few people early on, then a storm hits, and the drillers let the hippies onto the platform since they know if they all drown right next to a stable oil rig it'll be terrible publicity for them. Now it's Jason on an offshore oil rig during a storm. The hippies think the evil oil drillers are killing them off; the drillers think the crazy hippies are killing them off. Eventually the remaining people have to work together to beat Jason. Obviously the big conclusion will have the platform explode.
Lake sharks? Just give Jason power over unrecovered bodies in the lake that seems to have more people than fish in it. As soon as you hit the water you get dragged down like Jason did in previous movie.
On Part 8, The Flop House podcast recently went through the film, and one of them suggested that it should have been called "Friday the 13th Part VIII: Dead Tide". I personally loved that idea.
23:45 originally Part 8 would be a continuation of Part 7 with Tina returning which makes the social awkwardness and psychic link make a lot more sense. Also a telekinetic girl fighting Jason in New York would've been such good schlock
It wasn't gonna be set in Manhattan because I believe the director or Lar Park Lincoln wrote a treatment where Tina's taken to a psychiatrist hospital and Jason comes to life and wants revenge. (Like Dream Warriors.) The screenwriter for Jason Takes Manhattan wiped everything clean with the intention that it was gonna be the last one and introduced a protagonist who was directly connected to Jason. But it wasn't for Tina as at that point, she was asking too much money to come back but Paramount simply said no.
These movies do have a special place in my heart. When the mood is just right on a dark fall night...pop one in and have some beers. They're terrible but fun
Never clicked a video so fast. Waited all month for part 2- about to put the car in drive and head out, needed a podcast first- BOOM 💥. THANKS RED GUYS
Bit of a missed opportunity not mentioning how the 'nerdy guy in the glasses' in Jason Goes to Hell was John D. LeMay, previously known as the star of Friday the 13th: The Series. Which is not in any way connected to these films, but served as a heavy inspiration for The X-Files.
The Series is amazing, spinning a "monkey's paw" mcguffin into entertaining stories for several seasons. It is very much a who's who of Canadian talent of the time. I re-watched it during lockdown and IMO it held up well for its kind of pulpy nonsense.
Jason X is BASED. One of the best films in the franchise. I laughed so much, it was genuinely one of the best schlock comedy movies and it knows it and doesn't pretend to be something serious.
The continuity errors with the lore, to me, is just part of the weird mythos of these slasher icons. Maybe it's because I'm younger, but the sequels almost lend themselves closer to being the stories kids would make up about a recent shocking event and how each iteration would gain new bits and pieces until the story of Jason slashing up horny teens becomes a body-hopping demonic force that requires a magical bone saber to kill it. And if you did a horror series with that as a subtle overlay, it might work from a storytelling standpoint.
I agree, that would be a great way to "smooth out the wrinkles" so to speak. Warhammer 40'000 (not to get too nerdy) kinda does that. It has a metric fuckton of lore, and a lot of it is conflicting or downright contradictive. But it doesn't matter because EVERY bit of lore is meant to be seen as one faction or another's take on it, or propaganda, or some agenda'd distortion of events, rather than an actual factual retelling of events exactly as they happened.
@@Bear_Andersen It's absolutely an underused concept, but the unreliable narrator is the perfect way to smooth that kind of stuff over and that's exactly what that sounds like. On paper, it would sound lazy, but if that was the wrap up at the end, that all of the preceding had been campfire stories embellished and changed over time and the real killer actually only was active for one night and killed like three people, it would be the best twist, kind of swerve ending you could do for a franchise.
Jason X would've been seriously funny if science is so advanced that the crew members can't die and you just go all out with this concept by having the main characters not really... seeing him as a mild annoyance. The only thing annoying them is they can't seem to catch him because he's magic and everyone in space doesn't believe in that anymore. Also make the passengers even more loose since it's the far future.
Jason's journey from being underwater to visiting outer space is pretty inspiring.
He is an example to us all...like Jesus he also came back from the dead
Jason would easily beat Jesus. I mean, what's he gonna do? Turn the other cheek?
To infinity and beyond! Wait, that's not right.
Early 100%
"He's an astronaut" - Bert Cooper.
Jay: "Here's a relevant fact about a stunt actor in this film series we're actively covering that is related to another film in this very series"
Mike: "Wow you're pathetic."
Mike: "This random actor in (insert any film) was in one episode of Star Trek and I will now spend 5-15 minutes talking about that"
Jay: "Neat"
With his advanced dementia Mike just gets excited to remember things and make connections within his brain
That was weird.
poor little jay had to go on his alt account to vent in the comment section
@@dewok2706 no, it's Becky
That's because one of those genres is for pathetic dorks. And the other one is Star Trek.
It’s such a RLM move to make two Friday the 13th reviews and put neither out on the actual Friday the 13th that happened this October.
You think these shlub’s could’ve predicted a Friday the 13th this month?
Subverting expectations. It rhymes.
Unfortunately that didn't line up with their release schedule.
They would have sacrificed quality for the sake of a cheap gimmick.
I can see them rolling their eyes and sighing heavily as they act like they are above that, lol.
I love how Mike talking about Star Trek so much has allowed Jay to be able to identify Star Trek actors from their vibes alone
That's a funny line, but, of course, the reason Jay could tell was that that specific actor was really everywhere at that time.
I love that Mike’s go to for “character brought to life by lightning” is Short Circuit and not Frankenstein. Your mother was a snowblower!!
Another connection, both part 8 and Short Circuit 2 tried to pass off Canadian cities as NYC. And of course the scene where Johnny 5 punches that guys head off
@@raouldukestudios - Also the scene where Jason goes to the library and speed reads a few hundred books
Beautiful Jason...
If anything Short Circuit 2 is tied to Jason X because Los Locos kicked ass into outer space.
Isn't Short Circuit 2 the one where Fisher Stevens gets melted by toxic waste in the sewers?
22:11 Jay pre-emptively cutting Mike off at the pass with a Star Trek reference. I love it.
I HATE THAT CLICHE!
Personally, I like Jason X as a y2k time capsule. It’s hilarious. My favorite detail is how a spaceship hundreds of years in the future is still using apple power Mac displays.
Patrice O'Neal describing that movie is better than the actual movie though.
The jump cut to Jason in the simulation room slamming the two girls in the sleeping bags is one of the funniest things I've ever seen in a slasher movie
@@barahngnow I need to find that
@@barahnglol it was worth it
I love the movie! I don't care what anyone says. It is exactly like you said!
Their little dance to accompany Mike's a capella performance of the re:View theme is so adorable.
Seeing Freddy pull the hockey mask underground blew my mind as a kid.
A couple of years ago I witnessed a very uncomfortable scene at a horror movie festival. Adam Marcus was presenting his new film, and introduced himself as the director of Jason Goes to Hell. Cue not one single clap and a very embarrassed director.
If only he'd claimed to be the director of Jason X. Wild applause.
@@brothir Totally. I LOVE that film!
@@brothir do you mean he should've lied
I am joking @@swostika-m8x
@@ToniMcGinty
Don't know how you manage to do that. Are there drugs involved when you watch it?
I really didn't expect much when I watched it and was still bored to tears. There's, like, hundreds of B-movies with better entertainment potential, IMO.
"Your love of these movies is embarrassing." (Greatest Quote from Mike)
Mike Ghost Adventures Stoklasa lmao
Says the man that picked Shark Exorcist as the best of the worst once lol.
It's insane to watch Mike call Jay's love/knowledge for F13 "Embarrassing", knowing his passion for star trek.
The difference is that Star Trek is good
And Ghost Adventures with Zak Bagans. 👻
@@PatheticApathetic like 30-40% of media with the star Trek branding is actually good and I say this as a fan of the franchise
It's almost like he was joking or something
@@Edemynagno all my cool friends from Milwaukee actually hate each other
Seeing Jay dance to the re:View theme song was pure Nirvana.
1:13
Pure kino
Definitely reminded me of a naked baby drowning in a pool
He broke new ground with those moves
@@LongDeathBlueNeckyikes lefty/pol/
Out of all my unhealthy parasocial relationships, RML is my favorite one!
Colin, I know you're reading this.
Colin?
Colin?
Red Media Letter isn’t my favourite, I like the one with Rich Evans
RedMetterLedia!
you were so close
I got the clap when I read
28:38 Mike having a "Jay really hates Star Trek" moment about Jay's horror movie knowledge.
It‘s like poetry. It rhymes.
@@jf1573I predict "it's like poetry; it rhymes" will persist in the English language as a way to say something is terrible for hundreds of years, long after everyone forgets who George Lucas was.
As a kid I never would have expected that something that would cheer me up the most as an adult would be when some middle-aged guys from the American Midwest uploads videos of them sitting in chairs talking about movies and stuff. And yet here we are.
As much grief as Jason X gets I still have a fun time watching it and it has one of the best kills of the series
The sleeping bag kills?
@@crazydave507 freeze face
The frozen face smash was amazing.
The Cryo Kill 🍧🧊🍨⛸™
Been a fan of RLM for a couple years now, and one thing I love about them is that they never have sponsors or tell anyone to "like, comment and subscribe" (unless they do it sarcastically), and never even mention their patreon, merch or anything (other than in their channel description).
They’re really good at reverse psychology
They pay the Nerd Crew to shill their stuff
That's because they're already so successful that they don't have to. They're aware of how fortunate they are. Smaller and newer creators don't have that luxury. (Please note that I'm just saying this out of sympathy. I'm not a RUclipsr.)
Yes! They have integrity, unlike most others on RUclips. Chris Stuckman actually did an ad for a Sony produced Ghostbusters video game in his review of GB: Afterlife. Not surprisingly, he gave the movie a positive review.
I feel like part of it is also a sort of respect for their audience.
Of COURSE they want os to like, comment, and subscribe. Of course they want us to buy the merch and join the patreon.
But they give us the credit where they assume we're capable enough to do that on our own if we want to. We're not 12 year olds who need to be moved by a Call To Action™.
People will like if they like it. People will subscribe if they want more. Etc.
And RLM leaving that to us, instead of telling us to do it, feels, to me, like respect for their audience.
It's a very low bar, yet somehow they're one of the very few channels who clear it.
This somehow feels like karmic justice after Mike forced Rich to watch so much Discovery.
Nothing could ever make up for that
RedLetter inspires me.. My parents said if i get 70K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging...
@@namantherockstardidnt it used to be 50k
Everyone keeps commenting this, but Jay said in part 1 mike was the one to initiate this right?
Mike deserves much worse for making everyone deal with his Ghost Adventures fetish and his deeply concerning, far from platonic, love for Zak Baggins which may need a restraining order if it progresses much further. For his crimes against Red Letter Media, his audience, and humanity as a whole, Mike should be forced to endure a movie marathon of the entirety of The Conjuring, Insidious, and Saw franchises.
Strap Mike into a potty chair and apply a mild electrical shock every time he starts to drift off and fall asleep or go to his mental Star Trek happy place. That is justice my friend. That IS true justice. Sadly, it is also illegal in the 48 contiguous states, violates the Geneva conventions, and makes baby Jesus cry, but a Baggins level crime can only be met with a Baggins level punishment. Luckily Zak would be interested in purchasing Mike's potty chair that will surely be haunted after this experience.
It’s wild that Mike says it’s “like talking to a 14 year old” when Jay has Friday the 13th trivia, considering that Mike is a *Trekkie*. Pot & Kettle scenario.
Except that the Jason franchise is like 2.5 barely decent movies out of 10 and Star Trek has entire seasons of good content
Almost like they are friends joking with each other!!!! Someone think of the children!!!
It was weird. Couldn’t tell if it was purely a joke, or Mike trying to funny while buzzed…which backfires sometimes. Especially as you get older.
@@Violaphobia We got another one from planet Galactica, set phasers from stun to force choke!!
@@yourmomsblouse loose the phroton torpedoes
There is a book, Friday the 13th: The Jason Strain, where a prison island experiment with inmates. They are injected with "The Jason Strain" virus that gives them rage and super strength while they compete in a game show. The owner wants to use Jason's DNA to unlock immortality. And then Jason shows up and starts battling the super powered contestants. They need to make this shit a movie.
I googled this thinking you were fucking around. You were not. It is real. It is in my amazon cart.
That sounds like all kinds of bad ass. I'm not really sure what this thing you call a "book" is, but I'mma do some research and try to get that.
You ever read the story Aliens: Phalanx? There are all of these shitty attempts at bringing back the Alien franchise while that gem floats around in obscurity
I've been reading through the Jason X novels and they have some really cool stuff. Planet of the Beast has Jason just walking around on 'Planet 666' that immediately kills any normal person that comes into contact with the atmosphere.
I wouldn't watch that fucking movie
I love that Kelly Hu who plays one of Jason’s victims in part 8 was able to move into voice acting. So that she can work on projects like MKX, a game that would have Jason as a guest character.
She'll always be the hot sorceress in the Scorpion King to me.
I love that two people from Friday the 13th: A New Beginning are in return of the Living Dead, both which came out in 1985.
The black guy who gets killed in the crapper after singing with his girlfriend played Spider in Return of the Living Dead.
The guy at the beginning of A New Beginning who kills the other guy with the axe played Suicide in Return of the Living Dead.
@benmackie6322 You forgot the most obvious one! Thom Matthews, Tommy Jarvis from Part 6
Finally, Jay is letting that old man he found in the streets of Milwaukee go. I can't believe he forced him to talk about these spooky movies...
Which one?
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I think OP is talking about the drunk hobo.
@@quantumskywalker6888 which one?
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I don't know if you replied before or after I edited the comment, I forgor to write "drunk", yhat was my bad.
That said, there's only one drunk hobo at RLM.
😉
@@quantumskywalker6888 that's the joke, they all could be milwaukee drunk hobos (except Rich i guess)
You know Jason X is a true Vancouver production when two of its stars are pulled from the old Kevin Sorbo syndicated show, Andromeda.
Probably even borrowed some sets.
And they swapped which actress was the robot.
Fun Fact: Jason Goes to Hell was supposed to set up a 3 way crossover fight with Freddy and Ash until the rights fell apart
Thankfully we still got the comic series of what that movie would have been.
@@Havik61 would've liked it if it was a fun blockbuster film but the legal rights is a horror story on its own
@@willandwillstudios Yeah NO....The rights weren't some horror show.....New Line/ Cunningham owned the rights to Jason, Pamela Vorhees and Crystal Lake. The ONLY thing they didn't have the rights to was the actual Friday the 13th name and, they could not reference anything from the previous films, that's why it was Jason Goes to Hell, Jason X. The only thing that actually prevented them from doing it, besides that comic is god awful and stupid is Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell who wanted complete control and wanted Ash to kill Freddy and Jason.
@@lutherheggs451 I mean, I don't think anyone would be happy to see Ash Williams die.
Pinhead was supposed to referee.
Jason goes to Hell actually was supposed to tie Jason to Evil Dead. Originally it was supposed to be the Pamela Voorhees used the Necronomicon to bring Jason back as a dead deadite, and even the dagger that kills him at the end was meant to be the Kandairian Dagger from Evil Dead, but they couldn't get the rights to do the tie in stuff, so now it's just an Easter Egg.
No it wasn't...That was never an idea until that stupid awful comic came out.....That was NOT meant to be anything more than an easter egg for evil dead fans in Jason goes to hell, because the director knew sam raimi. They literally say it in Crystal Lake Memories, he thought they looked cool, he knew Sam Raimi so he asked him IF he could put them in the movie as an easter egg. There was NEVER meant to be anything about Jason being a deadite, nothing about the necronomicon, they were just mean to be "cool" easter eggs.
@@lutherheggs451 Literally a quote from Adam Marcus to Syfy Wire in 2018
"When we were pre-producing the movie, Bob Kurtzman and the guys at KNB said we're gonna do the effects on the movie. So I got to go on Sam Raimi's set for Army of Darkness. I asked Bob if Sam would lend me the Necronomicon for Jason Goes To Hell. I let Bob in on my secret plan and knew I couldn't say Deadite or Evil Dead in the movie because Universal owned the rights. If I just take that prop and put it in the Voorhees house, and use the Kandarian dagger as the thing that kills Jason, what I'm doing is setting up a mythology that Jason's mom wanted her so back so badly that she made a deal with the darkness. So she reads from the Necronomicon and brings about the resurrection of her son, so now the fact he lived at the bottom of the lake and grows two feet makes sense."
I love that that guy was so set on the “purity” of the Friday the thirteenth franchise that he was legitimately ready to reject reality “evil dead fans are losers how dare you suggest that my stupid franchise be connected “
@@OxMann13in a movie nothing happens just because! But this people man.... Sigh
Ash versus Jason might have been pretty interesting. Guy that's inexplicably hard to kill versus guy that keeps coming back to life.
Mike vocalizing the themes song killed me
Mike, with no irony at all, put Jay on blast for his knowledge of Friday the 13th actors, while in the same video and many times in the past has done the same thing with Star Trek. I love it.
its only embarrassing and nerdy when its not mike doing it. thems the rules
"with no irony at all"
the duality of man
I wasn't expecting pt 2 for another 2 months. This is great
This is really great!🔪
I love that Mike compares Jay to a 14 year old and then later mentions Babylon 5, Star Trek Deep Space 9, etc. Let's be honest, we're all still 14 year olds.
My 12 year old is basically a 14 year old.
You'd have to be 40 to remember those Star Trek vehicles
@@SnoopyReads Ouch in a lot of ways I think DS9 is the best of star trek and it copied Babylon 5 in a lot of ways. So if anything the best thing star trek ever did was a Straczynski vehicle with a better budget.
It's a shame Andromeda must be under Mike's radar though.
Don't forget Seaquest DSV
"Well one in every 5 people have psychic abilities so I guess it makes sense"
Sure Mike, just drop that one in there with no elaboration 🤣
He probably got that statistic directly from Zak Bagans so I'm sure it's reliable.
I have it, it owns. I like to undo people's belts while they're carrying heavy stuff so that they can't stop their pants from sliding down, usually they trip and fall.
Isn't that from Loopers?
They actually do. It’s just that 99.999 % of telekinetics choose to never use their power.
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Mike singing the intro music, while both him and Jay do the "Old Man" dance had me in tears. Love the videos you guys put out, and hope you all have a very Happy Halloween
Jay, making Mike watch every horror movie known to mankind: “I have such sights to show you.”
I can’t wait for the entire Hellraiser series next Halloween! Thanks again lads!
We'll have to wait a year for that to come to fruition
Nah. The Resident Evil movies!
Nah….. leprechaun
the Hulu one is surprisingly not shit
Nah. Evil Dead
Sad they didn't talk about Freddy vs Jason or Friday the 13th (2009) but a great video as always!
Oh thank goodness! I am so grateful that Mike said that the ending of part 8, when Jason turned to a child was probably in Rennie's mind. Every other reviewer claims that the toxic waste transformed him, with absolutely no regard to the possibility that it was just another hallucination.
Jay talking to Mike about Star Trek has the same energy as listening to your grandpa tell the same story for the 50th time.
Being a young chilld watching the Friday series - out of order and lacking wisdom at that age - my earliest conception of Jason Vorhees was that he was ALWAYS an undead killing machine, having IN FACT ( not a dream sequence ) risen from the lake at the end of the first movie to avenge his mother.
They really got famous voice actor Mike Stoklasa to sing their intro acapella for the second half of a Friday the 13th discussion. Red Letter Media is really upping the quality these days.
He's only famous for being Rich Evans' friend
Rich and Mike have taught me so much about star trek that I was able to immediately recognize the actor and remember which episode of season 1 he was in. (I have never seen a single episode of star trek before in my life)
“Your love of these movies is embarrassing.”
Damn Mike
The unmasking of Jason (and the following standoff) in Part 7 is a truly terrifying moment in the series. Had that movie not been butchered post production, it very well could have been the best of the lot.
wish they were able to get the carrie license.
It's still my favorite in the franchise. Part 6 is my 2nd
When the town's people got together and chanted "Evil Dies tonight!" I felt that, and it reminded of the BLM rallies and marches I used as cover to loot VCRs
@@SnoopyReadsthats a farrrr right wing propaganda talking point! No one looted during those protests for racial justice!
@@NicholasBennett-sm8rj mine is 6 followed by 7, then 1-4.
Batman ‘89 was the first movie I saw by myself in theatres and the only preview I remember was for Jason Takes Manhattan. It was just zooming in on Jason from above and behind while Sinatra songs New York New York
Hey he completed them all! Everybody, join me in a song of celebration. "VORHEES A JOLLY GOOD FELLOW!"
The double backstab from Jason on the black dude + his quote has lived in my head rent-free for 22 years.
The best Friday is Dream Warriors. I loved it when Jason completed the puzzle box, screamed Welcome to Prime Time and jumped off the spaceship
That was kinda out of character for Jason to scream it, but the acting was amazing so see no problem with that
When Jason dressed up like the Wicked Witch 🧙♀️ my expectations were met
Evil really died those night
I liked that movie but the blood orgy scene really messed me up
Dream Warriors wasn't bad, but in hindsight it may have been a mistake to cross over with the Police Academy franchise and have Jason go on wacky cop adventures with Mahoney and Tackleberry.
Mike's cover of the re:view intro is something i will live with for the rest of my life
Mike's mini stroke at 31:39 might be one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
This needs to continue with Freddy vs Jason and the 2009 remake!! Remake's Jason is my favorite portrayal of the character and the intro of that movie is goated
Jay and Edgar Wright are slowly morphing into the same person
The idea Mike has at the end, of making an iconic horror character with planned sequels with a serialized story was done with Saw.
I still want a movie where Jason walks home from New York to Crystal Lake - encountering people along the way who render him the hero by default because of how awful they are.
He "saves" a little girl, she thanks him and runs away, he finally makes it back to the shack, caresses his Mother's head, sits down, and just SLEEPS.
So basically the Jason version of Saw X where the villain becomes a sympathetic antihero? I can dig it.
Why does this make me think of David Lynch's 'The Straight Story'...?
Harry Dean Stanton as Jason's uncle, maybe?
@@barahng Yeah basically, I always wanted to see Jason help a kid (but not without scarring them for life and terrifying the hell out of them). I wish Don't Breathe 2's plot had been used for a Jason film, that way, a rapist wouldn't have been the anti-hero.
So like Frankenstein, the film
He walks part way, but he also rides that deer that he meets in upstate NJ
Jay said that no one knew what was going on and had agency by trying to stop Jason until Tommy, but he forgot about the guy who showed up in the same movie Tommy was introduced. The guy with the gun who lived in a tent who wanted to avenge his murdered sister. AKA the guy who got killed by Jason in the Basement while yelling he's killing me!
The fact that they breezed by the Natalie Holloway joke like it was just a fact is incredible
I was so expecting an editing joke.
@@treesoul00 is that the one who jumped off the cruise ship because someone dared him to?
Jason X is the greatest, stupidest horror movie of my childhood, and I'm so glad they appreciated it for what was. That sleeping bag scene is still one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
I haven't even watched this video yet but Rich Evans yelling was my favorite part
I know what that is!
This is the most "Normal" Mike has ever looked, and I am here for it
It's so refreshing to see Jay slowly morphing into Charles Manson for this Halloween season!
I love that these horror series Re:Views with Jay and Mike are like a parallel series to Mike and Rich's Startrek Re:Views
It's such a complicated triangle.
I guess it's Jay with either Mike OR Rich, seeing how Rich has done all the John Carpenter movies and Near Dark
On Mike’s last point about extensively planning out a horror franchise ahead of filming, your average audience might wonder why there were so many setups and lore in the movie when all they wanted were some creative kills and jump scares
The way Jay loves the Friday the 13th movies (as Mike says he’s like a 14 year old) is the same way I love these movies. I don’t care if it’s embarrassing or juvenile, lol. I’m loving this re:View guys! 🤘🏻🤣
The loose cannon is that Jason was brought back when his mother used the “Necronomicon” from Evil Dead. The book is definitely in their cabin.
I feel that, not unlike Samsons hair lending him strength. Jays hair has become a vacuum for syphoning Mikes will to live, as it grows in lenght.
I hope Jay fully appreciates having hair that gets *longer and thicker* as he gets older. The lucky bastard.
Length and volume.
His hair is so big because it holds so many secrets and Jason facts.
25:42 i like how Jay just ignores Mikes attempt to make him laugh, cuz you know Rich woulda burst out laughing at that....
I envision a young man, experiencing ‘Jason 9’ as his first foray into the ‘Friday the 13th’ series. He might find himself puzzled by the stark contrast in Jason’s character across the different films, particularly with regards to the loss of his body switching powers and the absence of the established magical Voorhees lore.
Jay's hair is supernatural. He's really come a long way.
55:30 My theory on the Halloween stuff is that DGG mentions how he originally pitched a two part film, but then didn't want to blow their load if people hated the first. So he put together his best ideas that would work for a single film. When the movie was more successful than anybody could ever predicted, he revisited those unused ideas and try to make movies revolve around them. With Exorcist I have no idea what they were going at other than the demon who is not mentioned by name in the film is credited as Lamastu on wikipedia and other websites is said to be rival to Pazuzu. So maybe the idea was to do a vomit kamehameha fight with Pazuzu in the sequels.
Jason x always felt like one of those high concept Voyager episodes with loads of deaths, that they never mention afterwards.
I wouldn't say the way Tommy was trying to kill Jason was completely made up. The Wikipedia on draugr (superhuman Norse revenant) states that "In legends, the hero would often have to wrestle the draugr back to his grave, thereby defeating him," vampires need to be staked into their coffins so they can't escape them again, and undead creatures having some weakness in whatever originally killed them is hardly a novel idea.
The real problem is that, according to part 2, Jason didn't actually drown in the lake to begin with
There is literally a scene where he is sitting in his truck reading a book about "the occult"....That is literally where he gets the idea from, he didn't have that idea until that scene
@@lutherheggs451 Yeah, that too
@@lutherheggs451I literally remember that scene. Literally.
The revelation that Jason is a Draugr makes so much sense.
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The first Jason movie that I watched was "Jason X" behind my parents back cause they told me it was too "scary", so when I did I remember being so disappointed because I was not scared, in fact I thought it was too funny actually, after that day till now I never trusted my parents ever again
9:31 A neat explanation would've been that the ghost of Jason's mother is haunting him, keeping him alive and guiding him. Jason himself is a juggernaut.
Hearing that Midwest accent saying "boat" so many times gives me life
As a child I’d always imagine Jason beating up/ killing what scared me.. He was more of a superhero to me :p
Will always be one of my favorite characters of all time.
New rule: Jay is not allowed to namedrop Cronenberg ever again until they re:View of one of his movies.
Seriously! Since they FAILED to review the recent _Crimes of the Future_ at all, we need Jay and Josh doing a review that covers his original student film version, as well as the recent feature.
Oh my god, I would unironically love to hear Jay and either Rich or Colin natter on for an hour + about Videodrome!
He can do whatever he wants to do.
I love it whenever Jay makes Mike watch shitty horror films. Its content gold.
As i said on the last one. I liked Tina. She was the only character I remember pulling for to live in the whole series. Good to see someone not just do something stupid and died. Was it silly? Yes. Was it fun? Yes. And also she was a good actress. Glad she refused to come back just to die.
Tina exists because they couldn't get the rights to use the actual Carrie. It was discussed and they did look into it but were told no so they just created their own legally distinct character.
@@lutherheggs451 The movie was pitched as "Jason vs Carrie" in a figurative sense but they never actually tried to get Carrie. Dunno where you're pulling your false info from, unless you're either trolling or getting confused with the fact that they originally wanted part VII to be Freddy vs Jason but New Line told them no.
I'd always wondered how and why out of nowhere her healthy and seemingly alive dad burst through the dock to grab Jason. It makes so much more sense that he was supposed to be a decaying corpse.
I took it to be a hallucination on Tina's part, so his appearance doesn't bother me. Tina did all the work.
I don't care either way. They set up something in the beginning and paid it off in the end. That's more than I expect from a Friday the 13th movie.
I think the filmmakers went with the normal-looking dad so that the audience would recognize him.
@@SupremeGreatGrandmaster The movie was very heavily censored before release. When Jay talks about it at 17:30, there are photos of the original corpse-dad make-up as well as a clip of corpse-dad in the original work-print. Normal-dad almost certainly was never the filmmaker's intent; it was just one of the many things that had to be removed or re-shot to appease seemingly near puritanical censors.
That's crazy! They had the decayed body of the mother, pop up in pt.3.....
@@Hu...R-U2024 Around the 1980s, there was a massive "moral guardians" (parents, Christians, politicians, etc) movement pushing for heavier censorship all around
Tipper Gore waged her war against the music industry. Jesse Helms waged his war against Robert Mapplethorpe and the art industry. Satanic Panic was in full swing. Leaders like Jerry Falwell and Billy Graham pushed the Christian fundamentalists forward. And of course there were complaints about movies showing graphic violence, gore, and "objectionable" content in general.
The MPAA went particularly hard against slasher movies. Movies had to be hacked apart to avoid the deadly X rating. X was seen as the "pornography" rating, and regular theaters wouldn't show X-rated films. In 1990, the X rating was retired and replaced by the NC-17 rating, and the MPAA started relaxing again.
Can we have more re:views of horror franchises? These are a lot of fun!
The only other one I can think of is Scream
They should do Hellraiser next. The sweet suffering!
@@joshuanelson6795 They should do whatever it is they want to cover, but a Hellraiser re:view or series re:view would definitely be cool.
Jason on a boat does sound like a fantastic setting given the isolation and the lack of escape routes. Maybe the coward of the group takes the only escape raft and gets eaten by sharks to enforce that swimming isn't an option. The cast can try fixing the engine or calling for the coast guard as Jason continues picking them off, the premise really has a lot of potential. I'd even have it end on a cliffhanger with a seemingly drowned Jason walking out to shore with Manhattan in the distance, than you can have an actual Jason Takes Manhattan sequel.
It IS a good idea. The heroes would have to figure a way to get Jason into the water so he drowns without getting killed by him. They'd have to trick Jason and trap him.
Here's a thought: the boat Jason gets on is a anti-oil drilling protest boat. He kills a few people early on, then a storm hits, and the drillers let the hippies onto the platform since they know if they all drown right next to a stable oil rig it'll be terrible publicity for them. Now it's Jason on an offshore oil rig during a storm. The hippies think the evil oil drillers are killing them off; the drillers think the crazy hippies are killing them off. Eventually the remaining people have to work together to beat Jason. Obviously the big conclusion will have the platform explode.
@@ethansloan Damn! That's good. Better than what I was thinking of.
There are some fairly large cruise ships
Lake sharks? Just give Jason power over unrecovered bodies in the lake that seems to have more people than fish in it. As soon as you hit the water you get dragged down like Jason did in previous movie.
On Part 8, The Flop House podcast recently went through the film, and one of them suggested that it should have been called "Friday the 13th Part VIII: Dead Tide". I personally loved that idea.
NGL Jason X is my favorite in the franchise. It’s just the right kind of dumb.
"Which I kind of appreciate cause they're like, it doesn't matter, we're on Part Nine, he's just back." ... Somehow, Jason returned.
Who knew Mike had such a beautiful singing voice 💜💜
"I do have respect for your intellect, but your love for these movies is embarrassing."
Fuckin' hilarious...
The sleeping bag kill is my generation's Rosebud.
23:45 originally Part 8 would be a continuation of Part 7 with Tina returning which makes the social awkwardness and psychic link make a lot more sense. Also a telekinetic girl fighting Jason in New York would've been such good schlock
It wasn't gonna be set in Manhattan because I believe the director or Lar Park Lincoln wrote a treatment where Tina's taken to a psychiatrist hospital and Jason comes to life and wants revenge. (Like Dream Warriors.) The screenwriter for Jason Takes Manhattan wiped everything clean with the intention that it was gonna be the last one and introduced a protagonist who was directly connected to Jason. But it wasn't for Tina as at that point, she was asking too much money to come back but Paramount simply said no.
Always loved Jason X. Just hilarious 😂
These movies do have a special place in my heart. When the mood is just right on a dark fall night...pop one in and have some beers. They're terrible but fun
Never clicked a video so fast. Waited all month for part 2- about to put the car in drive and head out, needed a podcast first- BOOM 💥. THANKS RED GUYS
Gentlemen, may we please have a Hellraiser series two parter? These episodes of re:View have been sublime.
Part 6 absolutely RULES I love it so much!
Bit of a missed opportunity not mentioning how the 'nerdy guy in the glasses' in Jason Goes to Hell was John D. LeMay, previously known as the star of Friday the 13th: The Series. Which is not in any way connected to these films, but served as a heavy inspiration for The X-Files.
The Series is amazing, spinning a "monkey's paw" mcguffin into entertaining stories for several seasons. It is very much a who's who of Canadian talent of the time. I re-watched it during lockdown and IMO it held up well for its kind of pulpy nonsense.
Yeah they literally did mention that
@@raouldukestudios Not in this video. They didn't talk about the 80s 'The Series' until the Trivia episode that was released after this.
I’ve always been a big fan of Friday the 13th: The Series.
Jason X is BASED.
One of the best films in the franchise.
I laughed so much, it was genuinely one of the best schlock comedy movies and it knows it and doesn't pretend to be something serious.
The RLM experience: feeling like they have made the same video a least a few times
I love that Mike can't go a single episode without bringing up TNG.
The continuity errors with the lore, to me, is just part of the weird mythos of these slasher icons. Maybe it's because I'm younger, but the sequels almost lend themselves closer to being the stories kids would make up about a recent shocking event and how each iteration would gain new bits and pieces until the story of Jason slashing up horny teens becomes a body-hopping demonic force that requires a magical bone saber to kill it. And if you did a horror series with that as a subtle overlay, it might work from a storytelling standpoint.
Ever see "It Follows". Great movie
I agree, that would be a great way to "smooth out the wrinkles" so to speak.
Warhammer 40'000 (not to get too nerdy) kinda does that. It has a metric fuckton of lore, and a lot of it is conflicting or downright contradictive. But it doesn't matter because EVERY bit of lore is meant to be seen as one faction or another's take on it, or propaganda, or some agenda'd distortion of events, rather than an actual factual retelling of events exactly as they happened.
@@Bear_Andersen It's absolutely an underused concept, but the unreliable narrator is the perfect way to smooth that kind of stuff over and that's exactly what that sounds like. On paper, it would sound lazy, but if that was the wrap up at the end, that all of the preceding had been campfire stories embellished and changed over time and the real killer actually only was active for one night and killed like three people, it would be the best twist, kind of swerve ending you could do for a franchise.
@@m.g.trazor417 all I have to say to that is I wholeheartedly agree
1:40 did they... predict that hockey player's death a few days ago
This has been fucking with me for an hour
Jason X would've been seriously funny if science is so advanced that the crew members can't die and you just go all out with this concept by having the main characters not really... seeing him as a mild annoyance. The only thing annoying them is they can't seem to catch him because he's magic and everyone in space doesn't believe in that anymore. Also make the passengers even more loose since it's the far future.
Jason vs. the Culture
Jay looking like a 70s rock star. 😅
Jason X is actually a lot of fun haha. Love it! Favorite is Vi of course. :)