Ford Focus ST v VW Golf R v Nissan Juke Nismo 0-60 MPH Mashup Review
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- ( www.TFLcar.com ) The 2013 Ford Focus ST and the VW Golf R and Nissan Juke Nismo are three of the newest and sportiest hatchback cars that you can buy today. The 2013 Ford Focus ST represents a best of Ford's American and European performance team while the Golf R is the top Golf that you can buy in America. And while the 2013 Nissan Juke Nismo is just a little bit more powerful than the regular Juke it also represents the sportiest 5 door car that Nissan currently builds. So of course we wanted to know which of these hot hatchbacks is the fastest from 0-60 MPH at a mile above sea level. In another fun and informative TFLcar mashup review...we get the entire TFLcar team together to test the cars and crown a winner.
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Can't wait for the next mashup. It'll probably be between a Ford Fusion AWD, a Nissan Titan, and a Fiat 500.
This is pretty funny actually.
+tlv156 It's actually the Chevy Sonic, Ram 3500, and Kia Sorento.
+tlv156 LMFAO
+Adam Baker cracking up!
tlv156 Auto den sale nisan
Pretty sure they had the Juke's CVT in manual shift mode, and then failed to use the paddle shifters. That's why it was changing 'gear' at ~7K instead of ~4.5-5K. It's shifting to prevent you redlining too long and destroying the engine when you forget you're in manual shift mode.
Do you even know what CVT is ???? There was no step tronic in this video only auto CVT sucking ??? If they had it in step tronic you would see it
@@DJPJ2741 the juke can simulate shifts with 8 preset shift algorithms when in sport or manual. They were in manual and using it as if it was in automatic. In manual it allows you to row through your own “gears” and as a safety the car will upshift on its own so it does not redline and damage itself
I think u are bad drivers!
You too!
i don´t think so ;) Maybe a passat, or Mondeo is a better choice for you
I agree.... no idea how to work the shift, the gears. So sad....
Leaving the traction control on is about all you can do? WTF are you talking about. That limits the power it can put to the ground.
Jeffrey Sousa hahaha I don’t even know bro this was well back in those days
Tested the GTI and some other european hot hatches only available over here - and then I bought the ST. It's simply the most fun to drive!
Should be call "douche bags in cars."
somehow i knew the ford was going to be the favourte when i heard the accents. any car enthusiast knows the golf r is far superior. and ive never seen a juke launch that slow.
Agreed. I own a juke nismo and it works pretty well for me. No exact times but it seems or at least feels better.
Homeboy had the Juke Nismo on eco mode 😂😂
Question did you have the juke in sport mode??
So what? Still slower than the two other cars
+Andreas Lie I'm sure you had a point somewhere... If it's a comparison test for top performance than you would want to use sport mode vs Eco mode for example......
+Andreas Lie yeah with the cvt get the rs and 6 speed would be a lot faster.
yes, valid question. mine goes 0-60 in less than that in sport mode. 15 juke nismo
nice i got a 2015 juke nismo also :)
Should of used the Juke Nismo RS with a Manual Transmission.... It would of been a whole different outcome. The Juke Nismo RS can keep doing 0 to 60 in under 6 seconds with a proper driver all day.
Thanks. The Solo DL is mainly designed to record lap times on a race track
Please see the comment below: "I'm always amazed at the people commenting on this channel's videos about the 0-60 times... How many times does it have to be explained that the tests are conducted at 1 mile above sea level which will be slower than normal times..."
Should have thrown a Mazdaspeed3 into the mix.
actually the juke had the best the sound😒
As an St owner, this makes me happy!
We did, we flew to Detroit and shot a video about how Ford uses air flow to find air leaks in new cars. We posted that video today. That trip took 4 days and yet we still managed to review 7 new cars this week and post 14 videos That's pretty amazing when you think about it.
You fellas aren't mechanics hey?
Clumsy 0-60 launch techniques and these guys are goofy, but entertaining. Good work. Thanks.
These guys need to learn how to drive jesus!
this guy doesnt know how to drive, its so easy to hit 60 in second in the R
he cheated the nismo too
I guess he just ignored the fact the nismo juke has a sport mode he could've accessed with slap shift. But we wont say anything about that feathered gas pedaling. I own a nismo myself and it is a slick ride.
I like the juke for some reason. Fun to drive. But the scary thing is that my 98 cherokee will do 0-60 quicker than all three, and its almost stock.
Thanks for the comment. So the hundreds of millions of people who live and drive above sea level don't matter? You know the over 20 million people of Mexico City, Denver, Salt Lake City....and we could go on.
I love how these guys literally just go for the gold cars the juke needs love
I'm 57. I'm not a modder. I own a 2015 nissan juke sv 1.6 turbo. 188 horses cvt. Just added stillen catback and injen shortram intake. Made a fun car to drive into a friggin beast. Am adding stillen rear anti sway bar package next week, will upgrade turbo and blow off valve over the summer. And it's not a Ford or a underpowered german piece of crap. I live in pgh, PA, try your review in one if the hardest cities to drive in. Clue: it's not flat.
Don't listen to that guy Roman you guys are great at it because honestly how many people can actually launch a car perfectly, that takes so much time and practice I'm impressed that you get the numbers you get given such short time with the cars! On the other hand i'm sure the golf can do a little better if you feed it clutch instead of just letting go so quickly but it will shorten the life of the clutch by so much its not even worth it.
im waiting for the 296hp 2015 golf r I can't wait
Its already available here in europe...
So exactly what other videos do you mean?
You know our videos are like the weather. If you don't like one just wait half a day.
Hey Folks! Today is 1/17/2015 and this test is nearly ancient history. There isn't much surprise to the result of the Focus being the quickest when it has such a large torque advantage over the Juke, and with the AWD systems on the VW and Nissan not being used to proper advantage, as in 0 - 60 not being the ultimate measure of a car's performance potential. Nathan's negative biases are not hidden in his ....making cars move. I am also biased as I am now the owner of a Juke SV. There is no need to power brake the Juke! I would never do that to a car with a CVT transmission, especially not one I want to last as long as the loan! He did not mention the SPORT Driver's Mode which will get the car to 60 with great alacrity and entertaining noises. The Juke has several personalities that can be explored with the push of a button, the flick of a switch, and the flip of a lever. Drivers beware because if you don't watch the speedometer, you can get THERE much faster than you realize - THERE being traffic court.
Idiots could have at least got the the proper 6 speed manual in the Nismo Juke. Why the hell did I watch this video?
Roger J hahahaha just because it seemed like fun😂
well at 92,000 subscribers you guy are a success. can't wait to view your videos!
Same here! Nathan and Roman are always funny reviewing cars together and I like that they have different opinions on the same car. I like Motor Trend but at the same time I find some of their videos and magazines to be heavily biased. I've always been left with the impression that they hate American cars.
You guys got major problems with Ur acceleration runs... Try shifting the CVT ul get better response that 0-100 in first gear
No offense but you can't at 1 mile above sea level.
Levi, thanks for the great advice. Will do.
Don't listen to these people. Y'all's videos are the best real world car videos on the net.
Some people down below have said the Ford Focus is not made in the U.S. According to CBS news and Edmunds.com the Ford Focus ST is made in Michigan. Last time I checked Michigan is part of the U.S., unless they have succeeded from the union and are operating as an independent country.
Stock numbers on the 2013 ST are 0 to 60 in 5.9 and 1/4 mile at 14.6
Managing a 9.1sec 0-60 in a Nismo Juke speaks bewildering things about yall.
Get rid of that spare tire on their stomachs, and you might shave a second or two. :P
I feel your pain with the Golf R and the short gearing. My Mazdaspeed Miata only does 42 about in 2nd and I autocross with it which means I am rowing the gears from 2nd to 3rd back 2nd and so on during my run the through, or hopefully around the cones. I feel it makes it more of a challenge and more entertaining, while the other autocrossers can stay in 2nd their entire run.
TFL, thank you for putting people in their place. Makes me like watching you guys even more lol
good stuff TFL
2013 Focus with a fuel injected turbo 250hp that does 0-60 in 7 seconds. The 1978 Datsun 280Z with 170hp could do that, great job Ford . . . and America!
why were you testing a CVT car against manuals? Not that you weren't biased to begin with when you first sat in the Juke.
For the money the ST is best.
Why are you using the auto box on a Duke? I have the manual version and done a 7.6 0-60. Sort it out
Sorry, but my 2013 Juke SL AWD can easily beat your crappy 9+ second runs. You guys should find a new hobby.
No, the fastest we've ever tested a car at 1 mile above sea level is the 2014 Nissan GT-R that went 3.7 seconds: watch?v=o87sxF3TFEA
The focus st revving according to Nathan loved to be revved, but in my opinion its opposite its like cats against water, it sounded like a tin can was being pressed and slid against cement.
Absolutely untrue, troll. I'm a proud Canadian, proudly buying GM and Ford and keeping friends employed in the auto sector. I just bought one of these Focus ST's and it is one well-built fun little car. I'm glad Vancouver keeps buying the upper class Benz,BMW,Audi. You guys are great. Best wishes.
I have a 14 fiesta st and it drives amazing. Love my car.
Just subbed. You guys are very likable. Look forward to seeing more of your reviews.
We've reviewed both of these cars on the track. watch?v=XF_GOTiHm44
these guys have no idea how to do 0 to 60. for god sake learn how to do power shift instead quick shift. 8.1 sec for golf R?? are kidding me i dont care how bad the air density is there, golf R is faster that Focus ST.
can't agree you more..... I think I can do better.
Motor Trend recorded times of 5.8s
yeah usually the air density is the issue with these guys but what the hell'
I think he didn't launch it, probably just went off idle for some reason
I own a 2013 VW Golf R. I can easily beat 8 seconds from 0-60. First of all his launch was terribad and he's not paying attention to his RPM. I found that when driving the Golf R, it's a little difficult to tell how high your RPM is from the sound when getting used to it. The sound is different from anything else I've ever owned and it doesn't sound much different at 4rpm than 6rpm. I usually don't shift until I hit about 6-6.5 RPM and I'll usually hit 60 as I shift to 3rd gear. He's not giving the car a chance to use high end power. He's using pretty much mid range power.
They are one mile above sea lvl. That changes alot.
I don't know what's more painful, the jokes or the driving.
Thank you very much. We really appreciate the kind comment. We reviewed 7 cars this week and posted at least 14 car videos. We are working as hard as we can to make TFLcar success.
What a nice comment...thank you. We have a 100th of their budget but we figure what we lack in money we make up for in passion and hard work.
sweeet, sorry spoke too soon, more mash-ups! there very entertaining
you hit the nail on the head my friend
He didnt want to accelerate juke. I dont hear the sound of engine
C'mon Nathan, don't be so careless with other people's stuff. That was an engine cover you tossed on the ground, not a used kleenex. Otherwise, keep up the good work. You guys do some of the best reviews on the net.
Yes, on the cars that require or suggest it.
Next we are going to do a mashup with these similar cars in their category, don't worry if you're not a car fan, we've got you covered. The cars are as follows: Nissan Micra, Jeep Wrangler, BMW 5 series and last but no least the Pegani Zonda.
Wow. All 3 of the cars I'm considering replacing my Fiat 500 Abarth with (when it's time that is.... I'm not ready to give up my Abarth just yet... I love it!) Thanks Roman & Nathan!
This is why our generation is looked down upon.
Props to you.
Love the videos, but one thing - the turbochargers should compensate entirely for the altitude (although not heat). This is because a TC builds to a given manifold pressure, not a given airflow (like a roots supercharger) or linearly to RPM (like a centri-supercharger or N/A car). This is why you don't apply SAE altitude corrections to turbocharged cars, regardless of altitude. Try turning off the TC next time - if I'm pulling better times on a MkV GTI with only an APR Stage 1 (and all-seasons), you're leaving performance out there ~somewhere~.
yes, larger engine. the regular juke has a 1.6 litre, but it has 188 hp, where as the nismo has 197 hp, according to Nathan. unless I am not understanding your two worded question....?
How would you compare the ST vs the Speed 3, Nathan and Roman?
You guys are awesome, keep up the good work.
Ford did a really nice job on the Focus ST. Its just about the best chassis in the business and the added tuning and heap of power make it really nice. As for the Golf, you would really have to want one to pay the extra 10 grand.
All this was about was 0-60? What about handling and comfort? Some really good cars aren't fast in a straight line, but corner like they're on rails. That's the kind of car I want.
If they did that then the Juke wouldn't even be in the race. I own an SE Sport and have driven an ST. Those things are hilariously fun around corners and I'm positive the VW is the same way. I feel like hot hatches are some of the most fun cars on the market.
I have a 2015 juke nismo and its amazing around corners, it hugs corners.
He left traction control on for the launch? No mazda speed3?
manual vs manual vs auto ?? What a waist of test ...Why no 6spd juke ?
gerbrock you mean waste? lol
No I mean Waist ... cause my belt needs something to do ... ...Really ...
gerbrock because they are very jealous with Nismo.
When both VW and Ford are become dominator brand in supercars championship ?
Its a mashup, not a matchup...
I'd like to see the Mazdaspeed 3 tested at altitude.
No no no no... They have no idea how to push a car to the limits... You guys in America are rubbish when you shifting!
100% facts!
Horrifying that the 2 more expensive vehicles (another $12k+ for the VW over the Ford!) also have the crappier performance numbers. There were cars from the 1990's with much less technology that could destroy them. If I were NISMO, I'd be ashamed for slapping a red letter "R" on that turd of a Juke. This was as real and raw of a review as I've ever seen. Nice job, guys.
I prefer to drive a manual over a dual clutch, but dual clutch systems are very impressive.
Great combo of cars! Very unique & fun video. Thanks!
Nice video. Been subscribed since ever. Keep up the great work guys :)
btw i like that little 0-60 timer thing. What else can it do?
You don't know how to take off in the Golf R. You don't just floor it otherwise the flywheel will just scrape the clutch and jerk around and loose time. You have to take of smoothly and work you way up the RPM.
Wow, you guys are really bad driver, I watch a lot of your review, the car runs a lot slower due to driver error
Nathan I don't think they should change the manual but the should change the lengths of the gears to reach 60 in second gear
One thing I never understood fully is why all german running lights (Audi, VW etc.) seem to "flicker" on video? Does it have to do with the FPS of the camera? I would have thought that the LED's on those cars are of the "always on" variety. Can you shed some light one this?
90 F at 5200 ft above sealevel is around 7900 ft above sealevel in density altitude. 7.1 is pretty darn good in the St about 3/4 of a sec slower than at around 1000 ft. The Golf R and it's awd, 256hp/243 tq should have done mid 7's. Sure it's down 25-27 tq on the ST.
Whoever said that Australia gets the same tune as Europe is wrong. We get same reduced output due to being a 'hot' country. Please check your info. Cheers
It dosent sound nor look like they put Juke in SPORT mode.. lol
There are eco, normal & sport modes for that car n the auto turbo boost only kicks in in sport mode I think.
About the golf power output, its not just because of the weather but because of the fuel, petrol sold in US is usually not as good as the EU for which are this FSI engines originally developed, they are made run on 98+ octane premium, which is also more expensive so i guess they just de-tuned it for the average petrol sold in US which have much lower RON then the petrol sold in EU, EU super is like US premium. Most commonly is in US sold petrol with aprox RON of 90, which is too low for this engine to run on its full potential.
Hope i didn't upset anybody.
This was such a shit comparison. The Juke Nismo with a 1.6 Turbo, making the least hp by 50 hp, with the most weight, shitty CVT trans and this made sense to you guys. You would think if you are going to put the Juke at such a disadvantage you would at least run the Juke R with a 6 speed manual transmission.
Actually, I think it's more interesting to see how fast cars are in the real world with average drivers (and not some paid hot shoe behind the wheel), on the real road and not a rubber-laden drag strip and not with ideal conditions (wind, dusty roads). It gives you a better idea how they will perform in the real world on the street and not in a laboratory. Also I heard someone nix the Golf R for reliability. I've owned several VWs and not once have I ever been left stranded thank you very much!
Did he just throw the engine cover on the floor from the Ford Focus ST he really needs to treat it with some respect.Anyhow to the point being a Ford fan and owning a Ford I am all heads up for the Ford Focus ST looks like a great car
What is the tool used to track your 0-60 times?
I drive a 2014 turbo nismo juke rs and I pushed 5 second flat with paddle shifters
Doesn't the Nissan have a sport mode?..I c it was in regular D rive?
How bout riding the clutch on launch instead of dumping ?? It has massive tyres on it!!!
Funny how they say the ST loves to rev when it's power actually falls off before redline =P
most cars power fall off a bit before redline.. loves to rev != redline gear changes.
Still can't get to 60 in 2nd gear in the ST either. And to the two dingbats below, XLPCX and Chief K, this testing was done at 5200 ft above sealevel. That alone makes it much more difficult for the engines to breath. Hp is reduced by 15%. So, the ST would be near 211 hp, not 252 and the GOlf R is at 215 hp, not 256... Plus, hot temps raise the density altitude another 1000 ft which drops another 5 hp off both. As he stated in the beginning of each test, the speed at sealevel is much better. Turbo or not.
yes u can reach 60 in 2 gear
+sergio norri +michael harris The ford focus st can easily hit 60mph in 2nd gear:
1000 RPM 3000 RPM 6500 RPM
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1st: 5.76 17.28 37.41
2nd: 9.53 28.59 61.94
3rd: 14.08 42.22 91.47
4th: 18.08 54.23 117.51
5th: 22.65 67.87 147.06
6th: 27.08 76.33 176.05
did you put the nismo in sport mode?
I love the sound of the ST
Wtf are you doing to only get high 8's out of a Golf R, you do know how to use a clutch don't you?
Do you guys use premium gas?