7 months later and Spotify still doesn't have lossless, Apple did a great job, if you have a good DAC and a good pair of headphones you will be good to go. Also good taste of music.
@kabokasajmer9696 from what I've researched, yes. Wired connection gives better data latency and better overall connection. Also be aware of your headphone/earbud impedence rating for compatibility between devices.
@@kabokasajmer9696not only recommended, but required. Bluetooth isn’t capable of transmitting the lossless codec to wireless headphones. Only AAC which is a lossy format. If you want lossless on headphones, you will NEED a usb c Dac with wired phones attached.
this is a huge step for the entire music industry , the industry is gonna have a lot more power and influence once this fully rolls out to spotify and everything
Excellent video, for audiophiles is a great step in the right direction, even if there are some glitches in the MAC OS, you still can use the IPhone or IPad to get Hi-Res audio. Congratulations Apple.
One more thing. If you connect any adaptor to your iPhone or iPad , the quality of the Audio depends on the DAC (Digital to Analog convertor) Instead of any Adaptor, if you have any home theatre decoder like the ones from Yamaha, Denon, Bose, Onkyo etc ... almost all of them have a port for iPod or iphone connectivity. That's the pure digital input. You will be passing the actual digital steam directly into the decoder. These high end decoder will have very very good quality DACs like the 'Ti Burr Brown' capable of 192Hz 24bit audio. Now start playing and you should actually get the perfect stereo how the music producer intended along with fidelity. These decoders also have inbuilt upmixing two channel stereo into 5.1 Dolby Pro logic, 5.1 DTS Neo or if more than 7 speakers, then converts to Dolby Atmos
But you can stream Lossless over Bluetooth now with AptX HD, AptX Adaptive as long as everything your using has the capability. Since no apple device can do this you would need to leave the cult apple and venture out on your own with a Hi-Res Audio player from Sony, Hiby, Fiio etc... Then you must have headphones wirelessly capable of receiving the signal like Bowers & Wilkins PI7 in ear headphones. Not sure why apple and others confuse this but at least they are not charging more for it and maybe that's because none of their headphones to date can handle the higher bit rate!
@E. O. True! They have not figured out how to stream the full width. There are adapters for MQA but there you go again, the end point needs to have a MQA unfolder or the main device does like the New Hiby R6 with it's list of Codecs and 16X unfolding. But while listening to MQA on Tidal I am only getting Apt X connection with the Hiby. So what exactly am I getting here. Tidal staes Master but what is it? I know I am loosing something but these headphones are simply stupid good! Then switching to a downloaded track on Hiby memory I know i am getting CD quality as it states 44.1khz/16bit/1490kbps
This is helpful, thank you. I think one of the reasons things are different with Mac OSX is that Macs are often used not just for playback but recording and for this, one always sets the sample rate on the external DAC, which then instructs the DAW. This is because it's by no means a given that one wants to record at the highest possible sample rate.
This is a fantastic video. I am a newbie and trying to learn more about Apple Music with my iPhone 13 and sound quality. I mostly use my PowerBeats Pro, which I know are capable of Spatial Audio and I also use the standard Apple Earbuds with the lightning connector. From what I can tell and correct me if I am wrong, with the standard Earbuds from Apple, the best quality sound I can hear is lossless. If songs are available in hi-res, I still cannot enjoy that sound quality with the earbuds. I think the same goes for the PowerBeats Pro, yes? 🤔
@@AudioFixation Based on this video I went searching for accessories and I found my Belkin 3.5mm iPhone Aux Adapter Features a DAC so I'll try the AUX port with my Apple earbuds and check out the audio quality. Thanks for clearing up the Bluetooth situation. Loud n clear-No bluetooth is going to help obtain lossless sound
@@AudioFixation If I connect Apple EarPods (wired) via 3.5mm jack on mac will they give me hi-res lossless or just lossless or Apple EarPods are limited to 48kHz?
What a palaver! I just bought a new hi res sony music player after selling my ipod and currently redownloading all my music. 101% happy to be reconnected with how music is supposed to sound once again without having to faff about with apple rules and shortcomings! Flacs all the way for me now no more nasty compressed files😎👍🏾👍🏾
If you want to get the full extent of the lossless streaming on your iPad I strongly suggest you get a dongle DAC like the THX Onyx and a great pair of headphones like the Hifiman Sundara planar magnetics. That’s what I use with my iPad and it’s awesome. The built in DAC in the iPad sucks. So listening with wired headphones without an external DAC like the THX Onyx is a total waste as you won’t hear the detail you are getting in the lossless stream.
@@DavidVRubio True. I have the older iPad Pro that does have a headphone jack and the newer one that doesn’t. In both cases a dongle DAC like the THX Onyx makes a huge difference. In the latter case the headphones have the DAC built in and in all cases those internal DACs suck compared to the THX Onyx and a wired pair of Hifiman Sundaras. And to really hear the difference between lossy and lossless you NEED the dongle DAC with wired headphones as the internal DACs on wireless headphones are not discerning enough to render the difference in sound quality between the two formats.
Hi, I am running Mojave (10.14.6) on a mid-2015 MacBook Pro. I also am still using an iPhone 6S running iOS 15.4.1. I do not have any other Apple devices like an iPad. I recently started updating my iTunes music and did not realize that when I was in iTunes and clicked on "Library" --> "Organize Library" that I was presented with 2 choices ("Consolidate files" and Reorganize files in the folder 'iTunes Music'." In my effort to organize my music on my MacBook Pro in the folder structure by "Artist", I didn't realize that iTunes doesn't organize the folders in reverse. In other words, the only way to structure the music in my iTunes "Music" folder is directly through iTunes and clicking on both "Album Info" and "Song Info". Modifications to the iTunes database including deleting an album and/or a song from the iTunes library (and also from the iTunes "Music" folder" into the Trash) are therefore as best I can tell are one-way only, and that being only through iTunes. If I'm the last to realize this, I am not surprised.
It's on Android now. I've been using it on my S21 ultra with the Sony xm4. Funny thing is I've been having Dolby Atmos before Apple supported it on the music app so the quality difference hasn't been as noticeable as it would be for an apple device.
Are you using xm4 connected wired in a dac on your S21U? Because it’ll not support ho res lossless via Bluetooth I suppose. Do tell about your setup. I have the same s21U and xm4 and want to enjoy hi res apple music using BTR5.
What about earphones like the Sony wf and wh 1000xm4? They’re wireless and their specs state they can support 24bit. Also just played some random songs without anything connected and was getting lossless
Bluetooth cannot portray lossless. It's just a compressed audio quality if you play over Bluetooth. But when you play using the provided wired cable, it's a different ball game.
but can you hear a difference from lossless vs high-res lossless? The jump from lossy to lossless is noticeable, but I'm not sure if the jump from lossless to a higher resolution of lossless would be as noticeable using standard headphones or speakers???
Depends also on your age, more probably than your equipment. Human hearing degrades steadily over time. Younger people with excellent hearing ability will in many cases notice a diff between 24/96 and 16/44.1 - in some cases a big difference. Audio Fixation is in his mid to late forties, so struggles to discern any tangible difference. Placebo effect plays a big role, if you know you are listening to the best possible sample and bit rates, then you no longer need to ‘wonder’. No FOMO.
Thanks for this video. Really helpful! Question; if I AirPlay (1) music from my iOS device to my Apple TV gen3, which links via optical to a DAC (then to amp and speakers), would I be able to get lossless output? Thank You.
Thanks but why do you have to keep switching the setting in MIDI setup? Why can't you just leave it on the highest setting? I dont have a DAC for my iMac, but I just leave my audio set to 24 bit 48 and even the songs that are in lower quality still play fine. I dont have to switch it back to 41 or anything. I do get a very different sound with the Atmos on vs off. Cant decide which I like more. Its off for now.
Using a set of non apple bluetooth in ear, and loaded both lossless and non-lossless of the same album and it is very noticeable the difference regardless of the fact its not lossless any longer as it comes out of the bluetooth in ear's..... apples been working some magic.... because it's even different when comparing it to TIDAL (apples better) no idea why
I have an Iphone XS and several dongle DAC/Amps to go along with it and many open back and closed back headphones with not too high of an impedance and I'm never happy with the music coming out of the phone with my headphones which are the Sennheiser 598, 599, 560's, 569's and many others by different companies , it's never clear and sounds compressed, I'm not an Apple music subscriber but have my Itunes music synced up to my Iphone XS and under audio there is no option for me to select 24 bit 96KHZ or higher which I know my DAC's can do and would like an Lossless audio option for my synced music, may I ask why Apple doesn't have this option under their phones or if they do are they only for Apple music subscribers, I can't understand why I cannot choose my bit depth and sample rate at all, I feel Apple should do this for everyone who owns an Iphone regardless if your an Apple music subscriber it should be under the audio tab for anyone to select their output of audio which my P.C. let's me do.
Im sort of frustrated because i got the dac and have all the cables and finally figured out my macbook is probably too old (2014) and when i do the music preferences it doesnt give me any sound quality options- its half of the stuff yours does
Random question: when I’m playing music through my MacBook’s speakers, will that audio playing be lossless/ hi-res lossless or the default AAC? Same question for the iPhone.
Well, I would love to use the lossless option on Apple Music, but I have bo way to do it. Sure, I can enable the option on my Android Smartphone and plug in some Headphones, but I don't listen to music on my phone. I have nice Speakers at home and I use those for Music, but right now Apple doesn't give me any option to transport the music there. Chronecast Audio doesnt work (only plays AAC) Heos, Musiccast, Sonos, BluSound etc...all either don't offer Apple Music at all or only offer the lossy AAC version, all because Apple doesn't provide an API for 3rd Party Hardware manufacturers to actually use Apple Music. And Apple doesn't offer any kind of Audio only Dongle (like the Chronecast Audio) either, and using an AppleTV isn't an option since I can't actually use that without a Display either. So...🤷♂️
can i play lossless audio by transfering lossless audio file from my laptop? or i just can play from apple music library? as a newbie i hope you will answer❤️
Hi! Firstly, love your videos. Super clear and helpful. I was wondering if that exact process/setup would work using Amazon Music HD instead of Apple Music? I plan on purchasing the BTR5 with a usb-c to lightning cable. Thanks a lot, cheers!
Sony xm4’s wired sound better? I’m using iPhone 11 and I want to buy Sony xm 4. They are wireless so only plays aac codec. If I wire them to my phone will I be able to play Apple Lossless through Apple Music? Or Sony xm4 doesn’t support lossless audio through the wire?
Thank you so much for this video. I see that samsung has a usbc to 3.5mm dongle which support up to 24bit/192kHz, does it mean i can use it with the lossless Hi-res directly?
Do you have a video of how to get lossless music from Apple or any other provider source, for that matter, through my Denon AV receiver, which has its own DACs? I would like to utilize some very high quality speakers I recently purchased.
My ipad and iphone ae running ios 14.6. But I dont see the Dolby Atmos or the Lossless Audio options in the settings. A lot of people have complained about this. What can be the reason? Please let me know. A lot of people here think that this is something that Apple have innovated. But it is not so. Dolby Atmos is already running in Samsung phones for a quite some time. My S 20 FE had it ever since it was launched.
It should be pointed out that vintage albums, such as The Beatles, are analog magnetic tape recordings and were not hi-res recordings. Putting these recordings into a bigger bit bucket is pointless as detail lost in the original recording cannot be magically recovered. There are very few true hi-res recordings available and nearly all releases are CD quality which is audibly as good anyway.
What I noticed is that on the iPad says 24bit/192Khz but in the external DAC it shows the 16, I guess it refers to 16bit instead of 24bit transmision. Is that because of an adjustment in the extrnl DAC? Thanks!
If I connect the apple 3.5 to audio cable to my Air Pods Max and connect it directly to the jack on my Mac book would I hear the same quality as I would if I connected a proper wired pair of headphones ? I’m trying to find out if it’s worth be buying a wired pair just for use in my house and keep my AP Max’s for outside.
Hi, I am asking for advice on what is the best format to import my music that is mostly on CDs back into iTunes. In my recent effort to update my iTunes Music folder by organizing all my music by artist, I didn't realize that the song metadata that wasn't consistent in iTunes completely disorganized my efforts when I clicked on both "Consolidate" and "Reorganize" my files. In reviewing my Apple Music folder with all my songs on it, I realized that I had most of my files either in "MP3 audio" some in "AIFF-C audio" and others in "Apple MPEG-4 audio" and even some as "QuickTime movie" files (which I can't figure out how these got in their as audio files). My goal is to get every audio file newly entered into iTunes under the best possible resolution so that (1) my audio collection is including 100% of all my available audio files, (2) these audio files are organized in the best way that suits my need (by artist or author), and (3) it has best possible audio quality that can run on both my mid-2015 MacBook Pro running Mojave (running 10.14.6) and an iPhone 6S (running iOS 15.4.1). I don't plan to upgrade either for the immediate future. I do not have any other Apple devices like an iPad. As I stated above, I recently started updating my iTunes music and did not realize that when I was in iTunes and clicked on "Library" --> "Organize Library" that I was presented with 2 choices ("Consolidate files" and Reorganize files in the folder 'iTunes Music'." In my effort to organize my music on my MacBook Pro in the folder structure by "Artist", I didn't realize that iTunes doesn't organize the folders in reverse. In other words, the only way to structure the music in my iTunes "Music" folder is directly through iTunes and clicking on both "Album Info" and "Song Info". Modifications to the iTunes database including deleting an album and/or a song from the iTunes library (and also from the iTunes "Music" folder" into the Trash) are therefore as best I can tell are one-way only, and that being only through iTunes. If I'm the last to realize this, I am not surprised. Before I import close to 4000 songs on several hundred CDs and other sources into my iTunes, I would like to start from the beginning so that when I next synchronize my iPhone 6S with my Macbook Pro that the library will be correct across both and that the sound files on my iPhone 6S will be at their best playable level. Thanks for your help.
Hi, I am a happy Apple Music user, with a good pair of IEM (Thieaudio Monarch MKII) and a couple of decent DAC/AMPs (Hidizs S9 Pro, Fiio Q3). I am very happy of my setup, but I am considering another possibility: a DAP capable to play lossless Apple Music (possibly including hi-res), with a good sound quality (possibly even better than my current dac/amps). Do you have any suggestions? Thank you
Wow thanks. This answer my question, because I am planning to buy the Fiio BTR5 for my IPad pro 2020. It's sad that Apple music on my LG V50 doesn't have lossless and I am not sure when or if they will update it.
Man I can hug you! I was messing around with my BTR5 and Apple Music trying to Figure out all this and now I know how. Btw, I also noticed the headphone matters a lot. I used multiple IEM balanced hardly noticed much of a difference, then I tied my master dynamic 40s and wow I got lost in lossless lol
I find that Apple Music under Settings on my iPad does not have audio quality prompt. Other people are experiencing this as well. What am I doing wrong?
Hi, thanks for the great vids! I've seen a lot of vids saying that using a computer as a streamer introduces a lot of noise to the digital out signal, which apparently seriously compromises the sound quality. Do you have any opinions as to which of an iPad, iPhone, iMac or Mac Mini will give the best, cleanest digital signal to an external DAC. I realise that this probably makes little difference when listening through headphones, but I am connecting my DAC to an 80 watt amp to drive floor-standing speakers.
I'm not sure about that. If you are using an external DAC, the computer should simply be streaming the digital data of the song, unadulterated from the servers holding the stored copy of the song, and all the processing happens in the DAC. Noise should only be an issue once the signal switches over to the analogue form, i.e. within the DAC. If you used the computer's built-in internal DAC, THEN noise from the other computer's components can be an issue. Please correct me anyone if I am mistaken in saying this.
I believe what you are referring to is noisy power over the usb port, where noise in the power is affecting the analog output within the dac after converted. The digital signal between the computer and the dac itself is not affected. Some usb powered dacs have filtering on the power to clean it up, or isolate it. If affected, you can also try plugging into a different usb port.
Hi I have updated ios to 14.6 but I don’t see the audio quality settings was you already a apple music subscriber to see these settings ? that is do I need to subscribe to see these settings I want to do the free trial but only when I can use the settings to get hi res thank you a great video.
Can Fiio BTR5, that is connected to the iPad, be directly connected to the Iphone 12 Pro Max through Lightning-USB C or do you need an additional adapter to have the quality 24-bit/192kHz (highlossless) ?
How does Apple TV compare as a DAC? There is a clear and significant difference when I listen to a song on RUclips and compared with the same song on Apple Music via Apple TV but have no idea if it is in the best resolution possible.
Reportedly Apple TV is limited to 24-bit, 48kHz -- even if connected to an AVR or soundbar that supports a higher bitrate. (Mine should arrive today.) Atmos may actually be the bigger deal on Apple TV, not only for this reason but also because it can take advantage of full home theater Atmos (usually 5.1.2 channels & up, far more than any mobile device).
Are you certain the Apple 3.5mm dongle maxes out at 24/48? The Cirrus Logic DAC used in them supports 24/192. This has been discussed since it was released with iPhone 7.
Apple sells a Lightning to 3.5mm cable (not dongle) which says it’s for connecting AirPods Max to other sources or iOS devices to other speakers. But can we use it to connect Sony’s WH-1000XM4 via 3.5mm jack to lightning port of iPhone and get 24bit/48kHz audio while the XM4 is powered on? If that is possible, a single cable can give lossless (not high-res) for iPhones with the right headphones. Please let me know if anyone can confirm this, if it’s possible! Thank you!
I also use Apple TV, airplaying onto Auralic Mini… onto my HiFi… I get max 24/48… well at least hope so :-) It is neat to have GUI of aTV on my television…
I saw Lucy’s Historian record in the thumbnail and now I’m watching. I only use lossless on my Apple TV through a Denon receiver, but it’s limited to ALAC up to 24-bit/48kHz.
Thanks for the how to! I have been wondering how to turn it on. I needed to go into the Audio Quality setting, that is what I missed the first few times haha, once more thanks. :) I'm no audiophile (even thought I REALLY wish I was) but I like to have the best audio quality I can get my hands on. lol
According to Apple support on lossless apple music You can also use lossless on your ATV4K albeit only cd quality plus a bit via hdmi (aptv3?) and a receiver or maybe one of those NAIM or similar with HDMI i don’t know what the I2s connection or even a cheap hdmi audio extractor can do. I’m not an apple music user and was very cross when itunes didnt sell cd level music and Google stopped and Amazon made it conditional on buying physical media so now i hope Qobuz or Zdigital or HD Tracks survives coz otherwise it’s a dog’s breakfast to find my digital copies (or your word “chunes”).
With this logic, does that mean if I attach a dongle from my iPhone to an aux chord, then straight into my Edifier speakers, would I get lossless audio? I’m trying to find a way to use those speakers to take advantage of Apple Music’s new upgrades
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7 months later and Spotify still doesn't have lossless, Apple did a great job, if you have a good DAC and a good pair of headphones you will be good to go. Also good taste of music.
Spotify messed up when they decided to charge extra for their lossless. When Apple’s came free of charge, Spotify went silent.
Taste is personal. If you have a nice dac and a good pair of cans, youre good. Who cares if its metal or jazz or classical
Should I use wired headphones for lossless music?
@kabokasajmer9696 from what I've researched, yes. Wired connection gives better data latency and better overall connection. Also be aware of your headphone/earbud impedence rating for compatibility between devices.
@@kabokasajmer9696not only recommended, but required. Bluetooth isn’t capable of transmitting the lossless codec to wireless headphones. Only AAC which is a lossy format. If you want lossless on headphones, you will NEED a usb c Dac with wired phones attached.
this is a huge step for the entire music industry , the industry is gonna have a lot more power and influence once this fully rolls out to spotify and everything
Excellent video, for audiophiles is a great step in the right direction, even if there are some glitches in the MAC OS, you still can use the IPhone or IPad to get Hi-Res audio. Congratulations Apple.
People with unlimited data and phone storage to spare😎
Orrrrr, people with phones with SD cards, amiright iphone owners????
@@bassandtrebleclef we keep it simple we don’t need those extra gadgets😼
@@Shatiq Sour grapes, eh!
Steaming at home mostly.
@@bassandtrebleclef yeah, i just use the internal storage🤷♂️
One more thing.
If you connect any adaptor to your iPhone or iPad , the quality of the Audio depends on the DAC (Digital to Analog convertor)
Instead of any Adaptor, if you have any home theatre decoder like the ones from Yamaha, Denon, Bose, Onkyo etc ... almost all of them have a port for iPod or iphone connectivity. That's the pure digital input.
You will be passing the actual digital steam directly into the decoder. These high end decoder will have very very good quality DACs like the 'Ti Burr Brown' capable of 192Hz 24bit audio.
Now start playing and you should actually get the perfect stereo how the music producer intended along with fidelity.
These decoders also have inbuilt upmixing two channel stereo into 5.1 Dolby Pro logic, 5.1 DTS Neo or if more than 7 speakers, then converts to Dolby Atmos
Thank you very much. If not i would be wasting data over hi-res songs that my airpod does not support
Level up to unlimited dude
cel data, T Mobile etc, 10 Gb max a month?
Album is 1 Gb
Thanks! Wondering if a song is lossless and also Dolby Atmos , which sign should I see under this song header, lossless or Dolby Atmos?
But you can stream Lossless over Bluetooth now with AptX HD, AptX Adaptive as long as everything your using has the capability. Since no apple device can do this you would need to leave the cult apple and venture out on your own with a Hi-Res Audio player from Sony, Hiby, Fiio etc... Then you must have headphones wirelessly capable of receiving the signal like Bowers & Wilkins PI7 in ear headphones. Not sure why apple and others confuse this but at least they are not charging more for it and maybe that's because none of their headphones to date can handle the higher bit rate!
@E. O. True! They have not figured out how to stream the full width. There are adapters for MQA but there you go again, the end point needs to have a MQA unfolder or the main device does like the New Hiby R6 with it's list of Codecs and 16X unfolding. But while listening to MQA on Tidal I am only getting Apt X connection with the Hiby. So what exactly am I getting here. Tidal staes Master but what is it? I know I am loosing something but these headphones are simply stupid good! Then switching to a downloaded track on Hiby memory I know i am getting CD quality as it states 44.1khz/16bit/1490kbps
I have the B & W P5 headphones, wired only. I have them in storage in the original box. I’ll have to remember to dig those out and try them again.
This is helpful, thank you. I think one of the reasons things are different with Mac OSX is that Macs are often used not just for playback but recording and for this, one always sets the sample rate on the external DAC, which then instructs the DAW. This is because it's by no means a given that one wants to record at the highest possible sample rate.
Excellent tutorial!!!! Wish I'd found this video before having to figure all this out the hard way, myself.
I’m using the M2 pro iPad and I don’t see the ‘audio quality’ menu under music. Has something changed in the latest update?
This is a fantastic video. I am a newbie and trying to learn more about Apple Music with my iPhone 13 and sound quality. I mostly use my PowerBeats Pro, which I know are capable of Spatial Audio and I also use the standard Apple Earbuds with the lightning connector.
From what I can tell and correct me if I am wrong, with the standard Earbuds from Apple, the best quality sound I can hear is lossless. If songs are available in hi-res, I still cannot enjoy that sound quality with the earbuds. I think the same goes for the PowerBeats Pro, yes? 🤔
Yes, the earbuds DAC will do up to 24bit/48KHz but the Powerbeats pro will only work via aac code so you are not getting lossless via Bluetooth.
@@AudioFixation Based on this video I went searching for accessories and I found my Belkin 3.5mm iPhone Aux Adapter
Features a DAC so I'll try the AUX port with my Apple earbuds and check out the audio quality.
Thanks for clearing up the Bluetooth situation. Loud n clear-No bluetooth is going to help obtain lossless sound
I think you can do this over Bluetooth with ldac codec on Android. . . .
@@AudioFixation If I connect Apple EarPods (wired) via 3.5mm jack on mac will they give me hi-res lossless or just lossless or Apple EarPods are limited to 48kHz?
What a palaver! I just bought a new hi res sony music player after selling my ipod and currently redownloading all my music. 101% happy to be reconnected with how music is supposed to sound once again without having to faff about with apple rules and shortcomings! Flacs all the way for me now no more nasty compressed files😎👍🏾👍🏾
Just get a new Samsung android phone .
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If you want to get the full extent of the lossless streaming on your iPad I strongly suggest you get a dongle DAC like the THX Onyx and a great pair of headphones like the Hifiman Sundara planar magnetics. That’s what I use with my iPad and it’s awesome. The built in DAC in the iPad sucks. So listening with wired headphones without an external DAC like the THX Onyx is a total waste as you won’t hear the detail you are getting in the lossless stream.
@@DavidVRubio True. I have the older iPad Pro that does have a headphone jack and the newer one that doesn’t. In both cases a dongle DAC like the THX Onyx makes a huge difference. In the latter case the headphones have the DAC built in and in all cases those internal DACs suck compared to the THX Onyx and a wired pair of Hifiman Sundaras. And to really hear the difference between lossy and lossless you NEED the dongle DAC with wired headphones as the internal DACs on wireless headphones are not discerning enough to render the difference in sound quality between the two formats.
I assume you need an Apple Music subscription to see those audio quality options. I’m on IOS 15 and don’t see them listed at all.
Same here! I have just bought a brand new 2022 ipad here in France which is on ISO 15.7 Perhaps you are right I need a Apple Music subscription?
Hi, I am running Mojave (10.14.6) on a mid-2015 MacBook Pro. I also am still using an iPhone 6S running iOS 15.4.1. I do not have any other Apple devices like an iPad. I recently started updating my iTunes music and did not realize that when I was in iTunes and clicked on "Library" --> "Organize Library" that I was presented with 2 choices ("Consolidate files" and Reorganize files in the folder 'iTunes Music'." In my effort to organize my music on my MacBook Pro in the folder structure by "Artist", I didn't realize that iTunes doesn't organize the folders in reverse. In other words, the only way to structure the music in my iTunes "Music" folder is directly through iTunes and clicking on both "Album Info" and "Song Info". Modifications to the iTunes database including deleting an album and/or a song from the iTunes library (and also from the iTunes "Music" folder" into the Trash) are therefore as best I can tell are one-way only, and that being only through iTunes. If I'm the last to realize this, I am not surprised.
It's on Android now. I've been using it on my S21 ultra with the Sony xm4. Funny thing is I've been having Dolby Atmos before Apple supported it on the music app so the quality difference hasn't been as noticeable as it would be for an apple device.
Spatial audio is a special type of Dolby atmos. Search ''spatial audio CNET'' and ''lewlaterclips spatial audio''
Are you using xm4 connected wired in a dac on your S21U? Because it’ll not support ho res lossless via Bluetooth I suppose. Do tell about your setup. I have the same s21U and xm4 and want to enjoy hi res apple music using BTR5.
I find spatial audio very gimmicky for music, for movies or video I can understand
Agreed
What about earphones like the Sony wf and wh 1000xm4? They’re wireless and their specs state they can support 24bit. Also just played some random songs without anything connected and was getting lossless
Bluetooth cannot portray lossless. It's just a compressed audio quality if you play over Bluetooth. But when you play using the provided wired cable, it's a different ball game.
What is that specific dac you using?
Do you have audio problems with your iPad while using the apple usb c to 3.5mm?
Wonder how much money would have made if you had an affiliate marketing link for that external DAC
The only video that delves into the Mac OS problems. Thank you.
but can you hear a difference from lossless vs high-res lossless? The jump from lossy to lossless is noticeable, but I'm not sure if the jump from lossless to a higher resolution of lossless would be as noticeable using standard headphones or speakers???
I can’t tell the difference for sure!
Depends also on your age, more probably than your equipment. Human hearing degrades steadily over time. Younger people with excellent hearing ability will in many cases notice a diff between 24/96 and 16/44.1 - in some cases a big difference. Audio Fixation is in his mid to late forties, so struggles to discern any tangible difference. Placebo effect plays a big role, if you know you are listening to the best possible sample and bit rates, then you no longer need to ‘wonder’. No FOMO.
Thanks for this video. Really helpful! Question; if I AirPlay (1) music from my iOS device to my Apple TV gen3, which links via optical to a DAC (then to amp and speakers), would I be able to get lossless output? Thank You.
Sadly I read that you might need TVOS14.6 minimum to enable lossless music on Apple TV 😢
great video as always from my new favourite channel, keep up the amazing work!
Hey thanks for watching and supporting!! 😀
28 months later (seems like another 28 later movie title), Spotify still doesn't support lossless!
Can inbuilt speakers on ipad/iphone play lossless music?
yes the Iphone/ Ipad have a DAC to play lossless through your phones speakers
Thanks for the video!
Between ipad mini 6, ipad 10 or iphone 14, which one do you recommend for listening to hi-res music via wired headphone? Thanks
Really good demo, nicely illustrated with the DAC
My Yamaha ATMOS Amp app plays them as Digital Airplay2, unable to find if it's 192k 24?
If it's High Res, Yamaha will play it!
Thanks but why do you have to keep switching the setting in MIDI setup? Why can't you just leave it on the highest setting? I dont have a DAC for my iMac, but I just leave my audio set to 24 bit 48 and even the songs that are in lower quality still play fine. I dont have to switch it back to 41 or anything. I do get a very different sound with the Atmos on vs off. Cant decide which I like more. Its off for now.
Using a set of non apple bluetooth in ear, and loaded both lossless and non-lossless of the same album and it is very noticeable the difference regardless of the fact its not lossless any longer as it comes out of the bluetooth in ear's..... apples been working some magic.... because it's even different when comparing it to TIDAL (apples better) no idea why
I have an Iphone XS and several dongle DAC/Amps to go along with it and many open back and closed back headphones with not too high of an impedance and I'm never happy with the music coming out of the phone with my headphones which are the Sennheiser 598, 599, 560's, 569's and many others by different companies , it's never clear and sounds compressed, I'm not an Apple music subscriber but have my Itunes music synced up to my Iphone XS and under audio there is no option for me to select 24 bit 96KHZ or higher which I know my DAC's can do and would like an Lossless audio option for my synced music, may I ask why Apple doesn't have this option under their phones or if they do are they only for Apple music subscribers, I can't understand why I cannot choose my bit depth and sample rate at all, I feel Apple should do this for everyone who owns an Iphone regardless if your an Apple music subscriber it should be under the audio tab for anyone to select their output of audio which my P.C. let's me do.
This was really helpful information. Can an Earmen Sparrow connect with an iPhone, iPad and/or Mac?
Im sort of frustrated because i got the dac and have all the cables and finally figured out my macbook is probably too old (2014) and when i do the music preferences it doesnt give me any sound quality options- its half of the stuff yours does
what would be the problem with just setting it to 96khz on the mac and leaving it at that?
It’ll resample everything to 96khz, even 44.1khz
@@AudioFixation Yeah but i’m asking what the drawback would be. what you described sounds like at the least wouldn’t worsen the 44.1khz audio?
Random question: when I’m playing music through my MacBook’s speakers, will that audio playing be lossless/ hi-res lossless or the default AAC? Same question for the iPhone.
Can I connect the DAC to a receiver and still get the desired sound quality? Will it be a RCA Analog In to the receiver?
Well, I would love to use the lossless option on Apple Music, but I have bo way to do it. Sure, I can enable the option on my Android Smartphone and plug in some Headphones, but I don't listen to music on my phone. I have nice Speakers at home and I use those for Music, but right now Apple doesn't give me any option to transport the music there.
Chronecast Audio doesnt work (only plays AAC)
Heos, Musiccast, Sonos, BluSound etc...all either don't offer Apple Music at all or only offer the lossy AAC version, all because Apple doesn't provide an API for 3rd Party Hardware manufacturers to actually use Apple Music. And Apple doesn't offer any kind of Audio only Dongle (like the Chronecast Audio) either, and using an AppleTV isn't an option since I can't actually use that without a Display either.
So...🤷♂️
can i play lossless audio by transfering lossless audio file from my laptop? or i just can play from apple music library? as a newbie i hope you will answer❤️
Hi! Firstly, love your videos. Super clear and helpful. I was wondering if that exact process/setup would work using Amazon Music HD instead of Apple Music? I plan on purchasing the BTR5 with a usb-c to lightning cable. Thanks a lot, cheers!
Sony xm4’s wired sound better?
I’m using iPhone 11 and I want to buy Sony xm 4. They are wireless so only plays aac codec. If I wire them to my phone will I be able to play Apple Lossless through Apple Music? Or Sony xm4 doesn’t support lossless audio through the wire?
Does ipad mini have this function? Because I never had ipad mini before. Planning to get one someday
Thank you so much for this video. I see that samsung has a usbc to 3.5mm dongle which support up to 24bit/192kHz, does it mean i can use it with the lossless Hi-res directly?
Do you have a video of how to get lossless music from Apple or any other provider source, for that matter, through my Denon AV receiver, which has its own DACs? I would like to utilize some very high quality speakers I recently purchased.
My ipad and iphone ae running ios 14.6. But I dont see the Dolby Atmos or the Lossless Audio options in the settings. A lot of people have complained about this. What can be the reason? Please let me know. A lot of people here think that this is something that Apple have innovated. But it is not so. Dolby Atmos is already running in Samsung phones for a quite some time. My S 20 FE had it ever since it was launched.
can i stream lossless on windows pc? i cant see any information about bitrate on windows itunes
It should be pointed out that vintage albums, such as The Beatles, are analog magnetic tape recordings and were not hi-res recordings. Putting these recordings into a bigger bit bucket is pointless as detail lost in the original recording cannot be magically recovered. There are very few true hi-res recordings available and nearly all releases are CD quality which is audibly as good anyway.
You are so correct!!!
Is it possible to use a iPhone 13 Pro Max on Apple Music to use high res ? Is there dacs with lighting adapters?
What I noticed is that on the iPad says 24bit/192Khz but in the external DAC it shows the 16, I guess it refers to 16bit instead of 24bit transmision. Is that because of an adjustment in the extrnl DAC? Thanks!
If I connect the apple 3.5 to audio cable to my Air Pods Max and connect it directly to the jack on my Mac book would I hear the same quality as I would if I connected a proper wired pair of headphones ?
I’m trying to find out if it’s worth be buying a wired pair just for use in my house and keep my AP Max’s for outside.
Hi, I am asking for advice on what is the best format to import my music that is mostly on CDs back into iTunes. In my recent effort to update my iTunes Music folder by organizing all my music by artist, I didn't realize that the song metadata that wasn't consistent in iTunes completely disorganized my efforts when I clicked on both "Consolidate" and "Reorganize" my files. In reviewing my Apple Music folder with all my songs on it, I realized that I had most of my files either in "MP3 audio" some in "AIFF-C audio" and others in "Apple MPEG-4 audio" and even some as "QuickTime movie" files (which I can't figure out how these got in their as audio files).
My goal is to get every audio file newly entered into iTunes under the best possible resolution so that (1) my audio collection is including 100% of all my available audio files, (2) these audio files are organized in the best way that suits my need (by artist or author), and (3) it has best possible audio quality that can run on both my mid-2015 MacBook Pro running Mojave (running 10.14.6) and an iPhone 6S (running iOS 15.4.1). I don't plan to upgrade either for the immediate future. I do not have any other Apple devices like an iPad.
As I stated above, I recently started updating my iTunes music and did not realize that when I was in iTunes and clicked on "Library" --> "Organize Library" that I was presented with 2 choices ("Consolidate files" and Reorganize files in the folder 'iTunes Music'." In my effort to organize my music on my MacBook Pro in the folder structure by "Artist", I didn't realize that iTunes doesn't organize the folders in reverse. In other words, the only way to structure the music in my iTunes "Music" folder is directly through iTunes and clicking on both "Album Info" and "Song Info". Modifications to the iTunes database including deleting an album and/or a song from the iTunes library (and also from the iTunes "Music" folder" into the Trash) are therefore as best I can tell are one-way only, and that being only through iTunes. If I'm the last to realize this, I am not surprised.
Before I import close to 4000 songs on several hundred CDs and other sources into my iTunes, I would like to start from the beginning so that when I next synchronize my iPhone 6S with my Macbook Pro that the library will be correct across both and that the sound files on my iPhone 6S will be at their best playable level. Thanks for your help.
Hi, I am a happy Apple Music user, with a good pair of IEM (Thieaudio Monarch MKII) and a couple of decent DAC/AMPs (Hidizs S9 Pro, Fiio Q3).
I am very happy of my setup, but I am considering another possibility: a DAP capable to play lossless Apple Music (possibly including hi-res), with a good sound quality (possibly even better than my current dac/amps).
Do you have any suggestions?
Thank you
Could you please provide the link to that playlist? I can’t find it online.
Hey come and join the discord. The links are on there 😀
@@AudioFixation how do I do that? I’ve searched for the playlist and can’t find it.
@@anthonys8254 don’t worry I’ll try and pin it to description
Does the same procedure apply to the Tidal app on iPhone and using an external dac?
How is it that Music app on iPad is 3x faster than the Music app on the newest macOS and hardware.
the macos app sucks. it’s so well designed on iphone and ipad. as you said so much faster too
@@highofftealeaves Yeah, I still use my iPhone 5s with old OS and it runs better than on my M1 MBA. Hope it will be better in macOS Monterey
do u know if the iPhone 6S 3.5 jack supports 24 bits 48 khz? i read in mashable that it supports 24 bits 96 khz without a DAC but idk.
I believe it does.
No, all iPhones only go up 48khz/24bit you need an external dac for anything else higher
@@theayeshaerotica even if it says it’s playing at a higher rate?
Wow thanks. This answer my question, because I am planning to buy the Fiio BTR5 for my IPad pro 2020. It's sad that Apple music on my LG V50 doesn't have lossless and I am not sure when or if they will update it.
Can you somehow connect that DAC to a 2022 Dolby Atmos soundbar? For example the Samsung HW-Q990B. Really curious on this one.
I’m using a Sonos AMP. How do I know if it is actually streaming lossless?
Then we have to set max sample rate in macbook? So it will work in all cases?
Man I can hug you! I was messing around with my BTR5 and Apple Music trying to
Figure out all this and now I know how. Btw, I also noticed the headphone matters a lot. I used multiple IEM balanced hardly noticed much of a difference, then I tied my master dynamic 40s and wow I got lost in lossless lol
I find that Apple Music under Settings on my iPad does not have audio quality prompt. Other people are experiencing this as well. What am I doing wrong?
Sir, so what do you suggest to me to download on Apple Music?
Im using Airpods Pro 2nd gen. Os it better to download the AAC files
Thanks for share. In my iMac with audio setup the max is 48khz 24 bit... with my Macbook Air I have more options. Why?
thanks for the great content, where can I get such device to convert from digital to analog for Hi Res lossless?
Oh sweet lord I've been doing this all wrong. Thanks for the video!
Hi, thanks for the great vids! I've seen a lot of vids saying that using a computer as a streamer introduces a lot of noise to the digital out signal, which apparently seriously compromises the sound quality. Do you have any opinions as to which of an iPad, iPhone, iMac or Mac Mini will give the best, cleanest digital signal to an external DAC. I realise that this probably makes little difference when listening through headphones, but I am connecting my DAC to an 80 watt amp to drive floor-standing speakers.
I'm not sure about that. If you are using an external DAC, the computer should simply be streaming the digital data of the song, unadulterated from the servers holding the stored copy of the song, and all the processing happens in the DAC. Noise should only be an issue once the signal switches over to the analogue form, i.e. within the DAC. If you used the computer's built-in internal DAC, THEN noise from the other computer's components can be an issue. Please correct me anyone if I am mistaken in saying this.
I believe what you are referring to is noisy power over the usb port, where noise in the power is affecting the analog output within the dac after converted.
The digital signal between the computer and the dac itself is not affected.
Some usb powered dacs have filtering on the power to clean it up, or isolate it.
If affected, you can also try plugging into a different usb port.
Ain’t getting the Dolby option in settings. Which iOS version are you on?
You have to be on iOS 14.6
Hi I have updated ios to 14.6 but I don’t see the audio quality settings was you already a apple music subscriber to see these settings ? that is do I need to subscribe to see these settings I want to do the free trial but only when I can use the settings to get hi res thank you a great video.
I don’t see the audio quality option under playback tab inspire of updating to latest version of Mac OS ..any idea if I’m missing anything?
How about headphones? Do we need to have a headphone that ranges above 40khz range in order to hear hi-res?
Hi ! Do you mind sending the link for the playlist that you tested? I just subscribed to Apple Music and I couldn't seem to find one.
does the earpods with lightning connector can use lossless audio?
When I look at Apple Music in settings on my iPad 9th gen I do not see all those settings? I am not signed in yet. Do I need to be signed in?
Can you use one of those amps with a vintage stereo? Like a old Marantz or Pioneer stereo receiver?
Can Fiio BTR5, that is connected to the iPad, be directly connected to the Iphone 12 Pro Max through Lightning-USB C or do you need an additional adapter
to have the quality 24-bit/192kHz (highlossless)
?
How does Apple TV compare as a DAC? There is a clear and significant difference when I listen to a song on RUclips and compared with the same song on Apple Music via Apple TV but have no idea if it is in the best resolution possible.
Reportedly Apple TV is limited to 24-bit, 48kHz -- even if connected to an AVR or soundbar that supports a higher bitrate. (Mine should arrive today.) Atmos may actually be the bigger deal on Apple TV, not only for this reason but also because it can take advantage of full home theater Atmos (usually 5.1.2 channels & up, far more than any mobile device).
@@richellebrittain2127 all I know, is that everyone in my family discerns an appreciable difference,
Are you certain the Apple 3.5mm dongle maxes out at 24/48? The Cirrus Logic DAC used in them supports 24/192. This has been discussed since it was released with iPhone 7.
The adapter needs to support the 24k 192.0 stream, any analog headset is!
What dac are you using in this video? is the dac good?
I have bluesound soundbar wifi connected to iPad , is this going to be ok
Apple sells a Lightning to 3.5mm cable (not dongle) which says it’s for connecting AirPods Max to other sources or iOS devices to other speakers. But can we use it to connect Sony’s WH-1000XM4 via 3.5mm jack to lightning port of iPhone and get 24bit/48kHz audio while the XM4 is powered on? If that is possible, a single cable can give lossless (not high-res) for iPhones with the right headphones. Please let me know if anyone can confirm this, if it’s possible! Thank you!
why i dont get the losless text at the bottom of the title song that im currently play, even tho i already turn it on like on this video
is anybody know why in my Music setting there is no DOLBY option and others like ij the video?
mine is iphone 11 pro max and have had ios 16.2
I also use Apple TV, airplaying onto Auralic Mini… onto my HiFi… I get max 24/48… well at least hope so :-) It is neat to have GUI of aTV on my television…
I saw Lucy’s Historian record in the thumbnail and now I’m watching. I only use lossless on my Apple TV through a Denon receiver, but it’s limited to ALAC up to 24-bit/48kHz.
Great album 👍🏾
You need to update the Airplay 2 app in the receiver, you can't do Atmos or 192 24b over HDMi that way! SPdiv?
Thanks for the how to! I have been wondering how to turn it on. I needed to go into the Audio Quality setting, that is what I missed the first few times haha, once more thanks. :) I'm no audiophile (even thought I REALLY wish I was) but I like to have the best audio quality I can get my hands on. lol
According to Apple support on lossless apple music You can also use lossless on your ATV4K albeit only cd quality plus a bit via hdmi (aptv3?) and a receiver or maybe one of those NAIM or similar with HDMI i don’t know what the I2s connection or even a cheap hdmi audio extractor can do. I’m not an apple music user and was very cross when itunes didnt sell cd level music and Google stopped and Amazon made it conditional on buying physical media so now i hope Qobuz or Zdigital or HD Tracks survives coz otherwise it’s a dog’s breakfast to find my digital copies (or your word “chunes”).
Yeah, 24/48, but you do get the untouched Dolby Atmos audio stream so you can bitstream the song.
With this logic, does that mean if I attach a dongle from my iPhone to an aux chord, then straight into my Edifier speakers, would I get lossless audio? I’m trying to find a way to use those speakers to take advantage of Apple Music’s new upgrades
I think you’ll need a DAC in between the phone and your speakers to get the most out of it.
Interesting, 24- bit / 44,1 with my Sony wireless. Can that be correct ?
Will lossless work if we AirPlay on our smart tv?
No
Yes, I think so at 24/48. It won’t be hirez but it will be lossless.
What about hires bluethoot headphones? Can't we hear lossless with it?
How to connect btr5 with iphone, i am uaing apple charging cable but its not working
Apple TV with Dolby Atmos music played through an Atmos capable sound system is god tier
what did you meant, you need HDMi 2.1 to support it!
Would this work with a fiio k5 pro dac/amp to my MacBook Air with Apple Music headphones are wired beyerdynamic dt990 pro 250 ohms
I like it on hi res audio. I have Sony Mobile ES speakers in my car that takes advantage of it
Does AptX support to transfer Lossless to my headphones?
You can’t use Apt-X on iPhone, it only supports AAC
I have a USB-C dac capable of 24bit 384khz. Why is the ipad stuck at 48khz?
I've been chrome casting Apple music to my Xiaomi android tv box from my android phone. Magic!!