The SC - PreSonus CDL Log: The Unboxing of the CDL10P & Sub18!!

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  • Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2024

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  • @harlanchaput
    @harlanchaput 10 месяцев назад +20

    Finally Presonus is recognizing you guys as a valuable resource for checking out and reviewing new products. With all their products you use, it’s about time! I’m looking forward to the comparison videos. I use JBL SRX speakers but I’m interested in the CDL line. I’m curious about the difference in the subs. Whenever I post I always like to say thank you for your videos. Thanks again.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад +5

      Always good to hear from you Harlan....yes, we plan on doing a comparison of each cabinet. We probably won't focus too much on the 18s sub as a comparison since it's no longer offered.

  • @DeanKWilson
    @DeanKWilson 10 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for sharing with us your “first-look” at this new gear!

  • @joelpotter1807
    @joelpotter1807 10 месяцев назад +2

    Crazy serendipity. I’m putting together an order right now with the new studiolive 64S cdl12s

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад +1

      Awesome! Let us know what you think!

  • @jdolson4092
    @jdolson4092 10 месяцев назад +4

    I love “new gear day”!

  • @thomas_ger4098
    @thomas_ger4098 3 месяца назад

    Concerning the weight and handiness of the 18” sub I can highly recommend the EV ETX 18SP. They are equipped with 4 blue wheels and they are packed in the package that way that you just have to open the packaging on the side and can roll the sub out of its package - this is really well designed

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  3 месяца назад

      Casters are optional on the PreSonus, which we did get them since making this video.

  • @paddyeire96
    @paddyeire96 10 месяцев назад +1

    Brilliant! I was gonna comment on the last vid and ask if you'd heard these yet!! Can't wait to see what you guys think of these.

  • @xtyentertain4057
    @xtyentertain4057 10 месяцев назад +1

    Presonus has good quality products, but the pictures of the speakers are still looking OG to me. You're a great dj couple. Thanks for sharing.

  • @georgecristea7287
    @georgecristea7287 9 месяцев назад

    how cool ~~~!!!! I missed you my dears, I can't wait for the next events to which you will be invited

  • @StereoAnthony
    @StereoAnthony 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great to see Presonus are sending you some gear!

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад +3

      Well they know we will use it...that's for sure!

  • @StirfriedGerman
    @StirfriedGerman 10 месяцев назад

    Your videos put Presonus PA systems on the map for me, I had never heard of their PA range before, but I use Studio One since V2 and one of their interfaces. Presonus owe you big time! That demo kit is well deserved and I hope they'll keep sending you more!
    I'll probably go the Turbosound route for PA, mainly because I'm in China, prices are inflated here and product availability is different. But as a mainly a studio guy, I'm learning a lot from your videos on top of them being entertaining!
    Keep the videos coming and do watch your backs!

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад +2

      We appreciate your support (and our backs too!)....thank you and hope the Turbosounds work out for you!

  • @TinoSchulz1990
    @TinoSchulz1990 10 месяцев назад +1

    I dig the smaller size. Would make a great addition especially for outdoor wedding receptions, right?
    I can also imagine for them to be perfect as front fills on larger stages.
    Can't wait to see where you bring them.
    Thank's for sharing!

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад +3

      You are spot on Tino! We will be using them in exactly those situations! The subs we believe are going to be a beast of their own...we anticipate that we will be able to use these as singles in situations we may have went with a double with our existing subs.

  • @alberto038
    @alberto038 10 месяцев назад

    Hello Stacy and Bart, congratulations on your new acquisitions, I believe they will add a lot to your setup.

  • @stevenquintero7343
    @stevenquintero7343 10 месяцев назад

    Wow 😮, what a Guitar lead !! You guys are awesome !! ✨👍🤠✨

  • @nscaledelights
    @nscaledelights 10 месяцев назад +1

    Congrats Bart and Stacy I think you need a pair of PreSonus E3.5 on top of the CDL10P's, I have the E3.5 and the kick lol.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад +1

      Should we bring those to an outdoor street dance?!

    • @nscaledelights
      @nscaledelights 10 месяцев назад

      @@thesoundcouple Of course you should!!!!!

  • @newmeutube1
    @newmeutube1 10 месяцев назад

    New addition to the family 👌👌👌🔊🔊

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад

      We now have 3 generations of cabinets!

  • @sesburada
    @sesburada 9 месяцев назад

    Congratulations on your new equipment. We are using Das Event 210a and we are examining lightweight, 6 or 8" speakers for some small events. We are waiting for your comments about the new equipment. Greetings from Turkiye...

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  9 месяцев назад

      Sounds good! More content in the works!

  • @XIIMonkeysMusicGroup
    @XIIMonkeysMusicGroup 9 месяцев назад

    I just bought my first pair of CDL10P! I have to buy 2 more pairs too!

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  9 месяцев назад

      You are going for 6 total? We have been giving them the run through in the shop!

  • @SuperThuma
    @SuperThuma 10 месяцев назад +1

    If the dome tweeters were pulled back and a vertical horn was implemented, wouldn't they be more long throw friendly?

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад

      Agreed...a horn load cabinet would likely throw further will all else being the same. That said, we have experienced some amazing results with our CDL12's long throw coverage, but the environment and event is always a factor with any cabinet.

  • @sound4uaudiovideorecording927
    @sound4uaudiovideorecording927 10 месяцев назад +1

    I’m curious if they “clip” like the 12s do.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад +1

      We plan on doing a comparison in later videos!

  • @EbenezerOnofurho
    @EbenezerOnofurho 7 месяцев назад

    Lovely boss pls if u are selling any of your previous items would love to buy a few

  • @soundtasticevents3602
    @soundtasticevents3602 10 месяцев назад

    Enjoy your new gear. Fun video thank you guys.

  • @makingmusiconline2309
    @makingmusiconline2309 10 месяцев назад

    Time to order some new "undercovers" for the new tops! And Presonus haven't stolen/included your patented slope top!! Need to add the wheels ... are the slots in the top of the base suitable for putting the wheels in from another sub?

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад +1

      That's a lot to take in! For now, we are taking it a step at time...The drink sliders would be a cool thing to incorporate...How about a combo speaker cover/drink slider? hmmmmm

  • @MrBytor100
    @MrBytor100 9 месяцев назад

    Bart and Stacy-
    Love the content, keep up the great work.
    Question, the mini-sub poles you use when you’re running 2/2 per-side, how long are the 16”?

  • @Richard1977
    @Richard1977 10 месяцев назад

    No network capability?
    It also looks like they changed from original Neutrik Powercon to an off-label one.
    And I would love a more in depth exploration of the CDL10P and compare them to your CDL12.
    Same for the subs.
    I live in the d&b audiotechnik world so anything different from that is always nice to explore.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад

      Thank you for your comment...noted and we will look into that. Only the original CDL "non P' series has networking/Dante with DSP controlled by Worx Control software. The P's DSP is controlled on the back of each speaker.

    • @Richard1977
      @Richard1977 9 месяцев назад

      Hey, any more in-depth information is welcome! And didn't you hint to these speakers in the "unboxing video" of your towers?
      I am not that active anymore and in a different branche of sound reinforcement with totally different strategies and way of getting things done but I always appreciate your videos.
      And if any of my comments are a bit short or not as polite sounding:
      Beginning of arthritis and arthroses in my hands sometimes just want me tkeep my comments as short as possible. That plus auto correct and RUclips comments freezing up.
      Keep your videos coming!
      Groeten vanuit 's-Hertogenbosch The Netherlands. Try saying that!

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  9 месяцев назад

      No worries at all Richard! Thanks for sharing and this video is the first we mentioned them!@@Richard1977

  • @josuepereira4295
    @josuepereira4295 10 месяцев назад

    parabens pela aquisição

  • @ubacow7109
    @ubacow7109 6 месяцев назад

    I'd like to know how the actual measurements are like for them. Compared to JBL's CBT implementation theyre kinda more large Coaxials almost.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  6 месяцев назад

      I wish we had the capacity to do more product testing!

  • @p.m-audio
    @p.m-audio 10 месяцев назад

    PresSonus Rocks

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад

      It's all worked out for us in the end!

  • @SamuelDonkor-p7y
    @SamuelDonkor-p7y 10 месяцев назад

    I’ll wait till you try it outside with a band if it's convenient the 10 cdl or the 12cdl

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад

      We anticipate that we will have that opportunity....remember though, we live in Minnesota!

  • @Hyakman5408
    @Hyakman5408 10 месяцев назад

    Do you ever have any trouble with the Presonus mixers? Functionality, updates, etc?

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад

      Yes we do...but I am a beta tester as well so over the years, I have found some things before it hits you guys! I know there has been some frustrating issues over the years, but I can honestly say our system is running better than ever. I know some get concerned about upgrading firmware, but we have been running what's now available to the public for a few months and I would update without hesitation, especially if you are experiencing issues.

  • @jerodigital
    @jerodigital 10 месяцев назад

    im waching every video im so happy

  • @koolkiwikat
    @koolkiwikat 10 месяцев назад

    why would the have the displays the wrong orientation vs how most people would have them configured??, they do look decent

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад

      Not something we noticed, but now that you point it out...It's probably just the orientation to what fits within the space allowed in the back. Our original CDL's are the same way....Interesting observation!

  • @tonderaimabvure
    @tonderaimabvure 10 месяцев назад

    I really like your content, I really like that you are helping those who are interested in the sound and lighting business. I have been considering these speakers, especially for live band performances. I used to live in the Twin Cities until about a year ago when I moved to Massachusetts. I also own a small Sound and Lighting company here on the East Coast What advice would you give to someone trying to build more clientele. What resources have you guys used to grow your business, especially when you were starting from the ground up? I see you guys are always on the road. Your advice would be appreciated. Thanks a lot for all you do. 🙂

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for your comment...At our target client level perspective, we see two basic approaches. Go after the event or work for the band. Our model has been working with the bands in need...The money may not be like the event money, but the work is there. As you can see, we have low operating costs to keep our cost down so the bands can afford us and we still make money. Then it spins around from there and can lead to getting "events". Per band recommendations, we are in the process of trying to secure a couple of "events" for this year. Finally, our location is primed for live music...go a couple hundred miles in any direction from us, the market changes and we see more sound people working for the event because there just isn't as many bands that need sound. Out there, you will also find more bands running their own sound. Our band clients are typically working with higher budgets and can afford to offload production. Hope this helps!

    • @tonderaimabvure
      @tonderaimabvure 10 месяцев назад

      @@thesoundcouple this really helps a lot. I am grateful for your insight and help.

    • @tonderaimabvure
      @tonderaimabvure 10 месяцев назад

      Another question. When you are in remote areas or outside, how do you get Internet signal for your devices or Wireless Router?

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  9 месяцев назад +1

      For internet we have an AT&T Netgear hotspot. If we’re doing a wedding in a remote area where we know we’ll have to stream, we will try and download it before hand.

  • @dallasslim1838
    @dallasslim1838 10 месяцев назад

    That make a great Dj set up with sub in middle and both CDL 10 on tri pods left and right

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes....this would be an excellent DJ solution. We would expect excellent coverage.

    • @sevenhot
      @sevenhot 5 месяцев назад

      @@thesoundcouple I attach my question to this. :) First, thanks for all your videos. I play bass in a group, and we normally have small venues 100-200 people. Both external or internall. I'm thinking to AIR 15 with 1 Sub Air 18.. but looking at this video I was wondering if a set with 1 CDL 10 each side and 1 CDL sub 18 in the center could be better.. Then I'll have to change my car, but don't know if better to remain in the AIR models or do the jump to professional gear.. Thanks in advance for suggestions

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  5 месяцев назад

      @@sevenhot Good luck!

  • @jseliski
    @jseliski 10 месяцев назад

    C'mon Presonus !! STEP UP - give these guys a FULL rig not just ONE stack - they are the best ad you will buy

  • @benjaminruiz8900
    @benjaminruiz8900 10 месяцев назад

    Cool setup. always.

  • @seitonkumokoroye2059
    @seitonkumokoroye2059 7 месяцев назад

    What are your thoughts on how they sound?

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  7 месяцев назад +1

      We share our thoughts in this video: ruclips.net/video/ocmrlQmPyGc/видео.html

  • @RegularTennesseeJoe
    @RegularTennesseeJoe 10 месяцев назад

    So I’m assuming they did away with the monitoring feature via Cat5/6??

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад +1

      The "P" series DSP settings are managed from the back of the speaker. The original CDL's, which we have, are managed via Worx Control software, which does require a wired Ethernet connection.

  • @motleychristian6462
    @motleychristian6462 10 месяцев назад

    Hi Sound couple can the CDL10s hold on the bottom of the CDL12s in a line array setup....??????

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад

      We are fairly certain that is not possible. With the "P" series, the 10's are 19.7" wide and the 12's are 20.7" wide...

  • @XIIMonkeysMusicGroup
    @XIIMonkeysMusicGroup 9 месяцев назад

    I can stack them by myself. Partly why I opted for these instead thr CDL12/12P!

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  9 месяцев назад

      The weight is definitely a consideration so yeah, being able to handle your gear is as important!

  • @FrankSlitei
    @FrankSlitei 9 месяцев назад

    Wow! How much can each cost & how will I get them?

  • @morgankl797
    @morgankl797 9 месяцев назад

    Will the top speaker grill design affects the output since its 1/2 covered?

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  9 месяцев назад

      We believe the answer is no, since the grill is an integral part of the design on how the speaker works. Hugh is highly respected speaker designer and we are confident that the design supports the most efficient output of the cabinet. You can check out this video this video where Hugh discuss's some of the design elements: ruclips.net/video/Ww0U5Jy0V9A/видео.html

  • @UmerFarooq-nq4du
    @UmerFarooq-nq4du 3 месяца назад

    congratulations 👍

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  3 месяца назад

      Thank you! They have been getting a lot of good use!

    • @UmerFarooq-nq4du
      @UmerFarooq-nq4du 3 месяца назад

      @@thesoundcouple ❤ love from Pakistan I'm also do this work like sound operator

    • @UmerFarooq-nq4du
      @UmerFarooq-nq4du 3 месяца назад

      @@thesoundcouple i see your much more videos

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  3 месяца назад +1

      @@UmerFarooq-nq4du Thank you for watching!

  • @MysticalGrooveDuo
    @MysticalGrooveDuo 8 месяцев назад

    Hi Bart & Stacy, thanks for sharing your videos. I have a question. Currently I am playing as a duo in Bars, Clubs, Private parties, Weddings and so on. I am using PreSonus AB1818 audio interface as my mixer since 2013 and still happy with the sound. And using HK Actor Subs 15", was using HK actor top (since 2004) and now changed to Line 6 L2M for top speakers since 2018 as they are lighters than HK top. It sounds pretty good. But now thinking of replacing my HK subs with PreSonus AIR18S 1200W Active 18". At the moment I cannot afford PreSonus CDL18s. Do you think it's a good idea? Our biggest crowds are probably between 100 to 150? I am thinking I need 18" sub to give us a deeper sub better than 15". Thanks in advanced. Cheers, Elia.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  8 месяцев назад

      You don't mention the type of music or instrumentation, but assuming you are a duo of vocals, guitar, and maybe keys of mainstream music...in just my opinion, you won't really hear the benefit an 18" sub for the gigs you do. A bigger sub is more suited for bands with drums or for DJ's. There would be nothing wrong with the 18", but I would spend that money somewhere else first.

    • @MysticalGrooveDuo
      @MysticalGrooveDuo 8 месяцев назад

      @@thesoundcouple Thank you for your reply. Sorry for not mentioning the details. Me and my female singer both sing. I play the guitar and I am using MDI file tracks with full band sound just like a band with drums brass and everything else and I took the guitar track out so I can play the rhythm and solo. At some venues we have to pump it out which I thought 18" sub will be beneficial to have. My 15 HK sub gave me a good punch but I believe 18" would be even better and deeper? I haven't seen any Presonus Sub around here and thought you will be the perfect person to ask. We play songs like Living On A Prayer, Jessie's Girl, Man I Feel Like A Woman, Love Shack and so son with full band sound. Hope that helps?😊

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  8 месяцев назад

      In theory...yes the 18" would provide more and deeper output...I would expect improvement, but you need to keep in mind that the system and mix needs to remain balanced. If your low end is lacking and your mains have headroom to spare, it's something that would make sense to consider. If your mains are nearing max output, adding a larger sub isn't a great move.@@MysticalGrooveDuo

    • @MysticalGrooveDuo
      @MysticalGrooveDuo 8 месяцев назад

      @@thesoundcouple Thank you for your information. Yeah I kinda get what you're saying. I am happy with my mix. I guess someday if I can compare between those 2 subs (HK and Presonus) I will be able to decide what to do. Once again thank you for you time Bart. Much appreciated. 🙏

  • @simonwhitlock9189
    @simonwhitlock9189 5 месяцев назад

    Why are there no wheels on the sub?.

  • @ethanjones1689
    @ethanjones1689 Месяц назад

    what case are you using for your mixer ?

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Месяц назад

      We use a Road Ready case. It's been holding up well and they are by no means premium, but we also are the ones hauling it so we are as careful as we can be.

  • @CarlTripulca
    @CarlTripulca 10 месяцев назад

    Nice sub

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад

      We have been working with them a bit...so far so good!

  • @9thstreet
    @9thstreet 10 месяцев назад

    Yall definitely aren't The Acting Couple lol. Looking forward to seeing how they compare to the 12s, and if the price savings is worth the potential lower performance.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад

      We know! We were just winging it and this is what came out! Gotta at least try to have a little fun, and if comes at the expense of ourselves...that's ok too! More to your serious point is a message we have shared in videos and that is to get the right gear for the application. We should not get upset or think less of a piece of gear that underperforms because expectations are not within range of its design. We have said that with our CDL12's....these are compact speakers and the laws of physics will come into play if a couple of them are expected to immerse a large hall with full sound. We don't really see the CDL10P's as competition for the CDL12's...they are a smaller cabinet with a smaller woofer, etc...we don't expect them to perform as the CDL12 and take over that role. We plan on using them for the applications that we can get by with a bit smaller cabinet and still get the job done. In my initial testing, I am pleased with the sound, but they do sound different than our 12's. The CDL's 10P's will likely have better results in conjunction with a subwoofer supporting it.
      So just want to add a thank you to your comment...we will keep it mind, but will compare as they are and not a competition with each other.

    • @9thstreet
      @9thstreet 10 месяцев назад

      @@thesoundcouple I guess I could've worded it better. The price difference isn't really that significant in the grand scheme of things, so I'm curious if it's worth just dropping the extra couple hundred on the 12s to have the extra headroom.
      I get the whole gear for the job thing, I have a few LD Systems column arrays and while I can easily scale my Curv 500 setup down to small meeting space, I picked up a Maui 5 Go to run for those instead (plus B&H had a killer sale on them a while back)
      I've been eyeing the CDL12ps for a while, pretty sure it's how I stumbled on your channel to begin with. If I can lock in the same graduation gigs I had last year they'll be in budget, but seeing the 10s pop up on sweetwater kinda threw a wrench in the decision

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад

      We were happy to see the 10P offering as well. I know the column array stuff is really getting popular...just not sure what to think about it all yet. Have seen some of the RCF stuff in action...sounds good.

  • @yashvirmahdoo1587
    @yashvirmahdoo1587 10 месяцев назад

    Nice!

  • @WeeEasak
    @WeeEasak 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thailand. Geno2 name

  • @avidaeseuscontratempos
    @avidaeseuscontratempos 10 месяцев назад

    🇧🇷

  • @sonidomanny28
    @sonidomanny28 9 месяцев назад

    She sounds like my wife...😂 the boss

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  9 месяцев назад +1

      You know the 'ol saying!...Happy Wife...Happy Life!

    • @sonidomanny28
      @sonidomanny28 9 месяцев назад

      @@thesoundcouple ...true...😊 😃

  • @djrickysmith
    @djrickysmith 10 месяцев назад

    Lol.. my wife yells at me when the fedex trucks roll up with gear..

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад

      I yell at Stacy when Amazon delivers twice in one day! :)

  • @WeeEasak
    @WeeEasak 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thailand geno2

  • @mitas3484
    @mitas3484 10 месяцев назад

    Should have gone with True1

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад

      Haven't heard of this before...thanks for the info!

  • @ben81
    @ben81 10 месяцев назад

    ❤❤🌹

  • @JanNiñoRaeRodriguez
    @JanNiñoRaeRodriguez 10 месяцев назад

    a sponsor??????????? woaaaaawwwwwww hehehe maybe a giveaway??? haha

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад

      Well...not quite. We aren't sponsored or endorsed...but a give away would always be nice! In fact, that's what really locked us in the PreSonus some years ago when I was a grand prize winner of a new RM mixer!

  • @ega0117
    @ega0117 10 месяцев назад +1

    Next time open the speaker box from the bottom so that you just lift the box and not the speaker and you will save your back 😁. Nice video

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  10 месяцев назад

      Yes...that is a way smarter approach!

  • @djrickysmith
    @djrickysmith 10 месяцев назад

    Matrix time.. just saying

  • @AppleStudioProKK
    @AppleStudioProKK 10 месяцев назад

    ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️✔️

  • @rosecat9738
    @rosecat9738 9 месяцев назад

    They need wheels

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  9 месяцев назад

      They are available! Our 18s are the first subs we put casters on. Transporting with a two wheeler works well too...just a preference.

  • @mvilla36
    @mvilla36 9 месяцев назад

    Don’t sell u to our soul lol

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  9 месяцев назад

      Taking your comment in good fun...but we take our channel seriously. It's obvious that we like and use PreSonus gear, but we are not fanboys. Over our hundreds of videos, we have shared the ups and downs of gigs and equipment and we tell like it is. That said, we will not jump on the hyper-react the good and bad either. If these speakers aren't cutting it...we have the boxes to send them back in. However, PreSonus is making a calculated move in letting us kick the tires on these...but yes, the odds are in their favor as unless they totally F'd something up, we should expect at least equal to what we got. We will share our thoughts and likely they will be good. Doesn't mean there aren't other or better choices for us or others, but our goal is to the word out there and talk about them....but we would never tell anyone that you have to buy these speakers.