I tried cotton and charcoal for the Fire Roll many years ago. I didn't get an ignition; and, it just left behind a big black mess on my hands, the boards, and the Fire Table. I wasn't willing to revisit the technique again even though many people down through the years kept telling me that it works... Well, about an hour ago another subscriber told me that he's seen it work... repeatedly. I told him I was going outside right now and give it another try. LOL!!! It works beautifully. I got pieces of charcoal out of the fire pit, pulverized it, and got ignition 2 out of 3 times. It takes about twice the work to get ignition compared to ashes , but is well worth it! Please, come check it out, follow the Links below, and SUBSCRIBE. Thank You! Rudiger Roll, Fire Roll Playlist ruclips.net/p/PLkoXX8XsMW3kLMA7kY_LznhzK5nOrA3Wd Hobo Stove Builds Playlist ruclips.net/p/PLkoXX8XsMW3lZeJRY3SSyPsZBTEWCnHbp
Thanks for sharing this. I bet you would be a really fun fishing buddy too. Betting you could cook up a awesome fish too. Thanks again. I'm going to practice this .
Well, dang. I have been a primitive technology enthusiast for nearly all my life and until today I was not aware of this phenomenon. Thank you for sharing. Best wishes from New Zealand.
great video nicely done. Many years ago i had the privilege of meeting a very eccentric chap who said he could light a fire out of just about any thing . well i said ok lets see this where upon he pulled the lining out of his jeans pocket cut up a section scraped some charcoal from an old forest fire tree and proceed to make a roll and run it between 2 flat rocks hey presto fire. as a kid i was stunned to see this but never doubted him again. it looks way easier with cotton balls and some wood boards for sure, but a skill well worth learning. great video for sure.
Yep , I've been reading the Bible almost every day for 40 years , and God shows me something new all the time . Now I'm going to show my grandsons how to fire roll , Thanks !
Thanks for that. I had not even heard of that one. I thought for sure I had seen (not necessarily mastered)all the basic fire making techniques ever devised since the beginning of time. This is a new one.
I just discovered your playlist. I've never tried any primitive fire making technique. I like the idea of charcoal because it's something you might find on the trail in a fire-scarred area.
Hi David! One of the things that folks a bit longer in the tooth, like you and I, enjoy is the liberty that comes in the realization that we don't have to know everything. We can just say, "I don't know" and not feel diminished one little bit. I always enjoy the process in your videos but I also pay close attention to your observations as well. Happy ignitions, brother!
You were using the perfect tool for pulverizing. Had you simply put the charcoal on the board and slid the other one over it the charcoal would be reduced to very fine dust very fast. It is a prehistoric way to grind grains into flour. In the field splitting a log in half and using the two halves works well.
Thanks for that info! That’s exactly how I tried to do it and my cotton roll got reduced to a tiny roll with dust all over my boards. I got ignition once, but never again. Got to get a couple rocks and try it again!
Very interesting! My Fireplace is FULL of Ashes this Winter. I'll add some of the ashes to my Vaseline Soaked Cotton Balls and then try lighting it with rhe Fresnel Lens you showed us earlier...if that works well, I'll fill a Zip Lock Bag full of those Cotton Balls for my next camping trip.
excellent demonstration easy to find catalyst for combustion sounds like a bet when drinking with some buddies who can make fire with out using sparks or fire haha
Hearing you determine that it is harder with the charcoal, Im eager to give Reg wood ashes a try , looks like I have been paddling up stream all this time. Thanks David
It may have been harder because of the moisture in it straight off the ground like that. I'll work with it some more and let everybody know what I think.
@@DavidWestBgood2ppl Thanks for the tip. 👍 It's just unfortunate because we can't get enough of pure wood ashes without getting noticed or the neighbors breathing down our necks. We have to use what we have discretely. 😞 BTW, I tried baking soda, it works but it's a lot harder because it is too powdery that it escapes the cotton roll making it hard to roll because it's slippery. But when it works it creates a very hot ember. I prefer ashes though, if I have enough.
Seems like You need a Mortar and Pestle to crush up that charcoal even though the two rocks work well enough. I really like your channel and all the different methods of starting fire. Before I thought all you did was cotton and ash but lately I've been finding more and more videos that show more options.
All those years as a pipe fitter having access to anvils like on top of vices, I would have tried it. Now, no more access until I get over to a friends house. Problem is, that's going to make a lot of noise. Don't want to be rude. LOL!
LOL! I tried this in my kitchen, really not thinking it would work. Suddenly, I was tossing it on the stove and turning on the fan to get rid of the smoke & put the fire out! 😃😃👍💯
Funny that I found this video this morning! After watching MANY of your fire roll videos, it’s become one of my favorite ways to make fire. Just the other day while trying to make some ash for more fire rolls, I ended up with mostly charcoal. I grabbed some, rolled the chunks up in the cotton and proceeded to roll/crush them. On my first attempt it worked….never got it to work again! Now i know why as one of your viewers committed below….doing it my way just turns the charcoal into fine powder. My cotton roll would be tiny in diameter and charcoal would be everywhere. Need to try your 2 rock method. How come i got mostly charcoal and very few ashes when i burned some hardwood? Any ideas? I use a hobo stove like yours, but not exact. Thanks!
That is amazing, but makes sense, because the amount of energy per unit volume when you roll it is high. Similarly energy of a heavy hawser being stretched around a cleat can smoke, that's scary and you want to stand back from that one.
I'm a dabbler so obviously not a pro BUT I've never in my life seen or heard of anything like this. That was awesome. I'll remember this one! Far easier than most techniques. I'm guessing you need 2 dry surfaces.... Subbed...
Condensate from hot moisture or other volatiles condensing on the cooler board. A condensate spot is under every ember that has ever been created on a cooler surface.
Good explanation. And then that hot moist air condenses on the much cooler board. You'll see it under fire rolls, hand and bow drill embers, and anything you leave on the table to burn. What you burn on the table will go out before it all burns up because it glues itself to the table with the collection of moisture and deposits and can't get enough air.
How do you play that scenario out in the woods usually you don't have to two by fours in your back pocket that seems like it would work good where are you can get the two by fours or maybe you could make some of them rolls up and have them in your fire kit because they're real easy ignition Source or should I say good ignition source thank you for your video very educational
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I tried cotton and charcoal for the Fire Roll many years ago. I didn't get an ignition; and, it just left behind a big black mess on my hands, the boards, and the Fire Table. I wasn't willing to revisit the technique again even though many people down through the years kept telling me that it works... Well, about an hour ago another subscriber told me that he's seen it work... repeatedly. I told him I was going outside right now and give it another try.
LOL!!! It works beautifully. I got pieces of charcoal out of the fire pit, pulverized it, and got ignition 2 out of 3 times. It takes about twice the work to get ignition compared to ashes , but is well worth it!
Please, come check it out, follow the Links below, and SUBSCRIBE. Thank You!
Rudiger Roll, Fire Roll Playlist
ruclips.net/p/PLkoXX8XsMW3kLMA7kY_LznhzK5nOrA3Wd
Hobo Stove Builds Playlist
ruclips.net/p/PLkoXX8XsMW3lZeJRY3SSyPsZBTEWCnHbp
David West its still a mess. Awesome as always David. Be blessed brother
Thanks for sharing this.
I bet you would be a really fun fishing buddy too.
Betting you could cook up a awesome fish too.
Thanks again.
I'm going to practice this .
nice
He reminds me of Bob Ross just a calm chill type of dude
I was expecting you to toss a fresh crow over that nice charcoal roll fire, lol!
How the hell did I end up here? But I sure learned something!
the algorithm works in mysterious ways
I felt the same way
😂😂 same
wow the most laid back, casual way of making fire i've seen on YT.
Experts never rush.
Well, dang. I have been a primitive technology enthusiast for nearly all my life and until today I was not aware of this phenomenon. Thank you for sharing. Best wishes from New Zealand.
Thanks Stephen!
great video nicely done. Many years ago i had the privilege of meeting a very eccentric chap who said he could light a fire out of just about any thing . well i said ok lets see this where upon he pulled the lining out of his jeans pocket cut up a section scraped some charcoal from an old forest fire tree and proceed to make a roll and run it between 2 flat rocks hey presto fire. as a kid i was stunned to see this but never doubted him again. it looks way easier with cotton balls and some wood boards for sure, but a skill well worth learning. great video for sure.
It just shows,your never to old to learn something new.... knowledge is the key...
And a cup that is never too full.
RUclips, "here is how you make a charcoal fireroll"
Me, "what's a fireroll?....oh! That's cool as hell!"
Takes a good man to say I was wrong. Thank you for this good lesson...
That is, by far, the coolest thing I've seen for a long time
Never heard of this technique!
Looks like I'll be binge watching!
Thank you!
Yep , I've been reading the Bible almost every day for 40 years , and God shows me something new all the time . Now I'm going to show my grandsons how to fire roll , Thanks !
Learn something new every day and you’re sure to learn something new tomorrow, God willing!
J W Sanders which is the beginning of wisdom.
I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it.
Thanks for that. I had not even heard of that one. I thought for sure I had seen (not necessarily mastered)all the basic fire making techniques ever devised since the beginning of time. This is a new one.
I just discovered your playlist. I've never tried any primitive fire making technique. I like the idea of charcoal because it's something you might find on the trail in a fire-scarred area.
Hi David! One of the things that folks a bit longer in the tooth, like you and I, enjoy is the liberty that comes in the realization that we don't have to know everything. We can just say, "I don't know" and not feel diminished one little bit. I always enjoy the process in your videos but I also pay close attention to your observations as well. Happy ignitions, brother!
Meaningful compliments. TY!
We may need this survival skill I’m sure glad I saw the demo and think I can actually get it done. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!!
After I saw this video, I watched a few more of your videos. AMAZING!!!! I never seen the fire roll technique.
we're all wrong from time to time. sometimes for seconds, sometimes years. it takes an honest man to admit fault.
Fine steel wool works too. It's a bit more difficult, but you get a really hot ember which lasts.
We all learn new things every day
I believe you are a good man David. Thank you for looking after us.
Thanks friend!
I was a boy scout for 12 years, and this blows my mind. Didnt know anything like this existed. Will try!
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Great Information! Thanks for teaching us older guys a New Old Trick.
Oh wow! Am I ever glad I stumbled on your video…looks like I’m going to be busy trying out the fire rolls on your playlist…thanks for sharing.
Fun!
Another great lesson in fire starting. Cheers David ✌
This is the first Ive heard of this...! Thanks for sharing...!
You were using the perfect tool for pulverizing. Had you simply put the charcoal on the board and slid the other one over it the charcoal would be reduced to very fine dust very fast. It is a prehistoric way to grind grains into flour. In the field splitting a log in half and using the two halves works well.
Thanks for that info! That’s exactly how I tried to do it and my cotton roll got reduced to a tiny roll with dust all over my boards. I got ignition once, but never again.
Got to get a couple rocks and try it again!
Neat little trick , never seen that done before . Thank's for the lesson 👍👍
Good experiment, material prep seems to be a fairly universal cardinal rule.
Very interesting! My Fireplace is FULL of Ashes this Winter. I'll add some of the ashes to my Vaseline Soaked Cotton Balls and then try lighting it with rhe Fresnel Lens you showed us earlier...if that works well, I'll fill a Zip Lock Bag full of those Cotton Balls for my next camping trip.
That sounds like a recipe for a lot of smoke and no flames. Let me know how it turns out.
Thank you. The teacher is teachable. Enjoying the videos. Amazing.
Thanks Kay!
David West The more the options, the more the training, the less the panic when the need arises.
Thank you.
That was excellent Brother David!
Thank you for showing me that. Now i am going to go check out a wood ash fire roll.
excellent demonstration easy to find catalyst for combustion sounds like a bet when drinking with some buddies who can make fire with out using sparks or fire haha
Wow!........never heard or seen this before, might save my life one day, thanks !
Awesome is all I can say.. I'll be trying this one myself. Thanks for sharing David!🌬💨🔥
Awesome. Learned something new once again.
Very cool technique. I love it
Great to have another option. Thanks
Just taught me something new I didn't know ,thanks
I use it in my woodstove as a fire starter. It absorbs any flammable extremely well. I never saw anyone do this.
My Scoutmasters never taught me fire rolls. Thank you Sir David West.
Always learning!
Thanks Dave!!
never seen this technique before, gonna have to try it.
I learned something new again.thanks Mr.
Hearing you determine that it is harder with the charcoal, Im eager to give Reg wood ashes a try , looks like I have been paddling up stream all this time. Thanks David
It may have been harder because of the moisture in it straight off the ground like that. I'll work with it some more and let everybody know what I think.
I learned a new way to start a fire. Thanks.
This is informative. Now I don't have to worry about separating the wood ash from the charcoal. I'll just grind them together. Thanks.
Pure ashes ignite much better.
@@DavidWestBgood2ppl Thanks for the tip. 👍 It's just unfortunate because we can't get enough of pure wood ashes without getting noticed or the neighbors breathing down our necks. We have to use what we have discretely. 😞 BTW, I tried baking soda, it works but it's a lot harder because it is too powdery that it escapes the cotton roll making it hard to roll because it's slippery. But when it works it creates a very hot ember. I prefer ashes though, if I have enough.
It's hard for me to escape my neighbor's prying eyes also.
@@DavidWestBgood2ppl He's just jealous he can't do half the things you can. I wish you were my neighbor, I get to watch in real time. 😁
Seems like You need a Mortar and Pestle to crush up that charcoal even though the two rocks work well enough. I really like your channel and all the different methods of starting fire. Before I thought all you did was cotton and ash but lately I've been finding more and more videos that show more options.
TY! See my fire roll playlist with 145 videos.
This technique rubbed me the right way.
Haha!😄
Lol caught me off guard and had me chuckling for a good 5 minutes
Thanks for ur videos David ur stuff teaches alot of people keep up the good work brother
Thanks Steve.
Anytime
Thanks, another nice bit of survival knowledge. I am going to try it with cotton cloth as that is a more likely thing to find lying around.
You have to learn with the easy cotton and ashes first. Please check out my fire roll playlist.
Thanks for the video!!
Very cool... Japanese Blacksmiths hit a piece of iron on the anvil till it’s hot enough to light rice paper. Tradition over bic. Thanks.
All those years as a pipe fitter having access to anvils like on top of vices, I would have tried it. Now, no more access until I get over to a friends house. Problem is, that's going to make a lot of noise. Don't want to be rude. LOL!
Cool, I’m going to teach my kids
I learned something new today! Thanks!
A little humility good for you. I been wrong plenty and freely admit it. I bet dry charcoal would work even better.
It didn't yesterday. Didn't ignite at all. I need to work with it some more to see what's going on.
@@DavidWestBgood2ppl Huh? The plot thickens.
Would char cloth in a cotton ball fire role work to start an ember ??? Thank you for your time and energy to experiment and video.
I've heard that it does, but failed with it many years ago.
That's really cool.
The things I learn on RUclips.
Learn something new every day
Sir, I did not even know Fire Roll was a thing. Thankyou.
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LOL! I tried this in my kitchen, really not thinking it would work. Suddenly, I was tossing it on the stove and turning on the fan to get rid of the smoke & put the fire out! 😃😃👍💯
LOL!
lmao
Funny that I found this video this morning! After watching MANY of your fire roll videos, it’s become one of my favorite ways to make fire. Just the other day while trying to make some ash for more fire rolls, I ended up with mostly charcoal. I grabbed some, rolled the chunks up in the cotton and proceeded to roll/crush them. On my first attempt it worked….never got it to work again! Now i know why as one of your viewers committed below….doing it my way just turns the charcoal into fine powder. My cotton roll would be tiny in diameter and charcoal would be everywhere. Need to try your 2 rock method. How come i got mostly charcoal and very few ashes when i burned some hardwood? Any ideas? I use a hobo stove like yours, but not exact. Thanks!
Moisture or the ash piled up and cut off the air.
Thanks, David. I appreciate fire starter video's.
OMG, I wasn't expecting that first timelapse. I busted out laughing after first being startled. haha
That is amazing, but makes sense, because the amount of energy per unit volume when you roll it is high. Similarly energy of a heavy hawser being stretched around a cleat can smoke, that's scary and you want to stand back from that one.
What a cool method to start fires! I love it!
Thank you, I love learning new things.
Brilliant no idea that u can start a fire that way I will have go myself brilliant 😋
Nice video most people don't know how to start a 🔥.
Thanks Jack!
I'm a dabbler so obviously not a pro BUT I've never in my life seen or heard of anything like this. That was awesome. I'll remember this one! Far easier than most techniques. I'm guessing you need 2 dry surfaces....
Subbed...
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@@DavidWestBgood2ppl - I will. Thanks!
That is a very neat method. I will have to try that myself.
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Good job!
Now let it be said that us old dogs can't learn new tricks Bam cool video .
6:20 where the fireroll is... Moisture can be seen coming off of it and onto the bottom board and dry up quickly. What is that from?
Condensate from hot moisture or other volatiles condensing on the cooler board. A condensate spot is under every ember that has ever been created on a cooler surface.
Cotton is basically just cellulose. Cellulose is made of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen. So the products of its combustion are carbon dioxide and water.
Good explanation. And then that hot moist air condenses on the much cooler board. You'll see it under fire rolls, hand and bow drill embers, and anything you leave on the table to burn. What you burn on the table will go out before it all burns up because it glues itself to the table with the collection of moisture and deposits and can't get enough air.
That's awesome. Had absolutely no idea lol
THANKS , DAVID GOOD JOB I LEARN SOMETHING TODAY !
David, try a 50:50 mixture of both. It would be the final trial, …the best of both.
Good demonstration David
Thanks friend!
Cool survival tip for sure!
Now That is something I didn't expect 👍
TY! See my fire roll playlist.
DAMN fire rolling seems to be one of the easier ways to make 🔥
thanx that is just cool,like ya said better than a fire drill.and other friction methods!!!
Well done, thanks
Thanks for watching!
How do you play that scenario out in the woods usually you don't have to two by fours in your back pocket that seems like it would work good where are you can get the two by fours or maybe you could make some of them rolls up and have them in your fire kit because they're real easy ignition Source or should I say good ignition source thank you for your video very educational
Split wood... see other options in my fire roll playlist.
That was an awesome video thank you very much
Very impressive.👍 Maybee there is say a leaf or the like in the wilderness..instead of cotton to make ignition 🔥
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@@DavidWestBgood2ppl OK thanks
I learned something new. Thank you.
I have never thought about using charcoal like that, but it does make sense. You use charcoal in your grills. Who knew?😁
Thank you!
wow something new too learn
Man do you have some fast hands!
Nicely done David :)
David my friend and I were talking and we would like to see you do more fire things like this except using t-shirt material or other sources of cotton
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Good to know David thanks for doing all them 🔥 videos
I love the little coffee can stove.
And for our next trick, David West uses coffee for a fire roll.
Never seen this one, Thanks.
Cool idea.
Absolutely amazing
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Thanks for the great new use for charcoal.........now the question is, will it work with char cloth on fibre in a fire roll ?
They say it does. I can't make it work.
That was excellent, new skill learned, and wood ash works too?
Awesome video!!!