To everyone out there, have a rummage and see if you have any old retro cards you can donate. This channel is already becoming the best retro repair channel that I watch on youtube.
3dfx cards are happy to be in your hands. You simply preserve computer history, especially 3Dfx company that is really important to us early 3D gamers, but no longer exist. Well done on saving another 3dfx card. Pleasure to watch, the best content of your channel. Thanks
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Thanks! I do like making 3dfx videos, I cant control when a 3dfx card or cards show up tough but when they do they are always the most fun card to work with and I like restoring the once that nobody else wants!
Terrific stuff! Algorithm suggested the channel and instasub on this one. This is really good as I’ve been thinking ”expanding” my vintage hardware repair skills and getting a reballing jig. I have couple old videocards (TNT2 and GF2 GTS) which have most likely one or more bad ram chips and I’ve been thinking that those would be a good starting point to the black magic of BGA rework.
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Have you excluded any bad resistors or resistor arrays between ram and GPU? A lot more common then bad ram I would say.
@ I actually haven't, I just tested those cards at some point and they did have artefacts. If I remember correctly TNT2 had them even on desktop and GF2 in 3D. I suspect memory issues, but I haven't had time (or interest) to check them more closely, too many projects going on! You are absolutely right, it can be resistors too.
Lovely repair job. Very good quality work. It´s a joy to watch a card being restored. I just wish i had the knowledge and skills to do this type of work.
Excellent work! I really enjoy watching your videos and always learn something new. Keep up the great work. I have a Voodoo 3 3000 AGP with a twisted and bent PCB as well so it was really interesting to see the method you used to straighten it. It was artifacting when I first tested it, but was completely dead after I removed the heatsink. I was very careful when removing it, but I suspect the BGA balls were already flaky to begin with and that was enough to brick it completely. The avenger chip barely gets warm, so thinking it may have lost power. I havent ventured into the scary world of BGA rework yet, but hopefully one day I will give it a try 🙂
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If i did it again my plan is to try 110-120C, it seems to be malleable at that temperature. Also reducing time should lower the risk of discoloring, so Im thinking 60-90 min if and when I need to bend another PCB back in to shape. I only had this card to test on and I considered shorter time and lower temp BUT the risk then was that it might not keep shape from what I could find on the subject of bending a PCB back. I hope you get your card working! Get something to practice on first tough. I usually reball some crap router SoC or something for practice. Thanks for the donation and have a nice day!
@ Thanks for the tips! I have a hot air station but not a hot plate/pcb pre-heater and am planning to buy one. Do you have any recommendations? Thanks again!
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@@vswitchzero This is the only one I have and have used. Got it cheap from Germany, lower price then the china ebay seller. Dont ask me how that works XD Its called then "YIHUA 853A" on ebay. I seen YT reviews of it, just like mine some parts where lose, my temp sensor cable was lose and I had to solder it in place. But I think this is one of the cheapest you can get, buying professional stuff is like 6x the price where I live. If money is not an issue there are probably better once, well there better be! XD The more fancy stuff has external temp sensors, guess one could mod it to have on tough. A hotplate or preheater is so worth getting! Probably my favorite tool to aid in soldering stuff.
Great job on the repair! I would love to see a follow up where you add ram to the blank pads and bench the upgraded card vs the “factory”. Hardware mods are awesome!
i had good results by putting in some hex standoffs into the PCB holes and then clamping in on a level surface so that the standoffs lay level ,then just uniformly heat with a heat gun to 120C with a thermocouple attached to the PCB. This has straightened out a bent isa sound card in under a minute.
Bra jobbat! ❤ Så underbart, ligger i sängen och bara tittar när du jobbar på 😋 Och en så lång video, helt underbart! Perfekt när man ska slappna av efter jobbet 😃 Hoppas du får en riktigt skön och trevlig helg!
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Kul du uppskattar långa löd videos! Ha en bra helg du med!
Hi. Do you have any testing software for Voodoo 5 5500? I have one with very severe artefacting. It doesn't really work in windows with drivers. I would need some DOS testing program to find out which RAM chips are causing the errors. I have measured every single pin on the 4 RAM chips for the primary VSA-100. They all seem to be fine.
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I dont know about any V5 5500 specific software that would do that. I have only seen like two V5 5500 in my life.
@ Isn't that too little? Or does this chip not heat up that much? thx
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@@tenentedoom I dont see thermal conductivity as an issue with past or pads etc on something this old The epoxy capsule is a bad thermal conductor, epoxy sucks for that so fancy past wont make much difference. There is a good reason late chips have a small round metal IHS as part of the package like the GF256. After that we had bare dies because a package like this wont do. Also the primary cooling for this type of packaging is trough the GND bga balls (its in the data sheets and still applies to a lot of ram chips even today) in the middle so the PCB is the primary heatsink, the heatsink on top is secondary, needed but not primary.
I understand that perhaps English is probably not your first language, but just a little bit of advice to help us to understand what you're saying: Please slow down, you talk to fast, plus you mumble. Open your mouth wider, so that you can speak more clearly. Probably the quality of your microphone isn't that great either. Otherwise a very informative video. Thanks.
I got the honor to buy this card from Nitton today, he's an amazing kind person that really cares that you will be happy with the product. 10/10. 😍
🥳
The honor is mine.
I hope you get a lot of retro gaming out of it!
Thank God someone is reballing old AGP cards....
To everyone out there, have a rummage and see if you have any old retro cards you can donate. This channel is already becoming the best retro repair channel that I watch on youtube.
Thank you! That's high praise!
3dfx cards are happy to be in your hands. You simply preserve computer history, especially 3Dfx company that is really important to us early 3D gamers, but no longer exist. Well done on saving another 3dfx card. Pleasure to watch, the best content of your channel. Thanks
Thanks!
I do like making 3dfx videos, I cant control when a 3dfx card or cards show up tough but when they do they are always the most fun card to work with and I like restoring the once that nobody else wants!
Your channel deserves more subs, I really enjoy your content, thanks 👍
Great work, thanks for sharing all the detail
Thanks!
Terrific stuff! Algorithm suggested the channel and instasub on this one. This is really good as I’ve been thinking ”expanding” my vintage hardware repair skills and getting a reballing jig. I have couple old videocards (TNT2 and GF2 GTS) which have most likely one or more bad ram chips and I’ve been thinking that those would be a good starting point to the black magic of BGA rework.
Have you excluded any bad resistors or resistor arrays between ram and GPU? A lot more common then bad ram I would say.
@ I actually haven't, I just tested those cards at some point and they did have artefacts. If I remember correctly TNT2 had them even on desktop and GF2 in 3D. I suspect memory issues, but I haven't had time (or interest) to check them more closely, too many projects going on! You are absolutely right, it can be resistors too.
Lovely repair job. Very good quality work. It´s a joy to watch a card being restored. I just wish i had the knowledge and skills to do this type of work.
Excellent work
Thanks for a very informative video reballing is very complicated I understand Best regards PO
Bravo, superb video and superb work, thank you ;)
Excellent work! I really enjoy watching your videos and always learn something new. Keep up the great work. I have a Voodoo 3 3000 AGP with a twisted and bent PCB as well so it was really interesting to see the method you used to straighten it. It was artifacting when I first tested it, but was completely dead after I removed the heatsink. I was very careful when removing it, but I suspect the BGA balls were already flaky to begin with and that was enough to brick it completely. The avenger chip barely gets warm, so thinking it may have lost power. I havent ventured into the scary world of BGA rework yet, but hopefully one day I will give it a try 🙂
If i did it again my plan is to try 110-120C, it seems to be malleable at that temperature. Also reducing time should lower the risk of discoloring, so Im thinking 60-90 min if and when I need to bend another PCB back in to shape.
I only had this card to test on and I considered shorter time and lower temp BUT the risk then was that it might not keep shape from what I could find on the subject of bending a PCB back.
I hope you get your card working!
Get something to practice on first tough. I usually reball some crap router SoC or something for practice.
Thanks for the donation and have a nice day!
@ Thanks for the tips! I have a hot air station but not a hot plate/pcb pre-heater and am planning to buy one. Do you have any recommendations? Thanks again!
@@vswitchzero This is the only one I have and have used. Got it cheap from Germany, lower price then the china ebay seller.
Dont ask me how that works XD
Its called then "YIHUA 853A" on ebay.
I seen YT reviews of it, just like mine some parts where lose, my temp sensor cable was lose and I had to solder it in place.
But I think this is one of the cheapest you can get, buying professional stuff is like 6x the price where I live.
If money is not an issue there are probably better once, well there better be! XD
The more fancy stuff has external temp sensors, guess one could mod it to have on tough.
A hotplate or preheater is so worth getting!
Probably my favorite tool to aid in soldering stuff.
Mad respects to you for doing this, good job!
Good job!
Great job on the repair! I would love to see a follow up where you add ram to the blank pads and bench the upgraded card vs the “factory”. Hardware mods are awesome!
i had good results by putting in some hex standoffs into the PCB holes and then clamping in on a level surface so that the standoffs lay level ,then just uniformly heat with a heat gun to 120C with a thermocouple attached to the PCB. This has straightened out a bent isa sound card in under a minute.
good advice!
Will try that next time!
Excellent video, like!
WoW nice job, thanks for the great video
No problems!
Happy to make them!
Really enjoyed that, Fantastic work.
Thank you!
Great skills sir!
Bra jobbat! ❤ Så underbart, ligger i sängen och bara tittar när du jobbar på 😋 Och en så lång video, helt underbart! Perfekt när man ska slappna av efter jobbet 😃 Hoppas du får en riktigt skön och trevlig helg!
Kul du uppskattar långa löd videos!
Ha en bra helg du med!
@ ❤
Would be nice to see part 2 of this video with added more vram, there are seems to be empty sockets
empty yes, but they are most likely there if you use ram with half the capacity.
well done, i wish i could reball my v3 2000 pci since it stopped working
Thank you!
I hope you get the card reballed one way or the other, there are services on ebay with reasonable prices so might be an option.
@ thanks for the tip was not aware that was an option. Did you remove the original epoxied heat sink?
@@Pickle136 no it came shipped like that
Don't copy that floppy!!!!Nice work though I've fixed one of my GPUs using your methods 😊😊😊😊Thank you 😊😊😊😊
hey your videos are very good
i have my original voodoo3 3000 that needs to be reballed. i bought a replacement but would like to get it going again someday.
This is such great info!
Hi.
Do you have any testing software for Voodoo 5 5500? I have one with very severe artefacting. It doesn't really work in windows with drivers.
I would need some DOS testing program to find out which RAM chips are causing the errors.
I have measured every single pin on the 4 RAM chips for the primary VSA-100. They all seem to be fine.
I dont know about any V5 5500 specific software that would do that.
I have only seen like two V5 5500 in my life.
1:06:07 What is the degree of thermal conductivity? thx
0.85W/mk
@ Isn't that too little? Or does this chip not heat up that much? thx
@@tenentedoom I dont see thermal conductivity as an issue with past or pads etc on something this old
The epoxy capsule is a bad thermal conductor, epoxy sucks for that so fancy past wont make much difference.
There is a good reason late chips have a small round metal IHS as part of the package like the GF256.
After that we had bare dies because a package like this wont do.
Also the primary cooling for this type of packaging is trough the GND bga balls (its in the data sheets and still applies to a lot of ram chips even today) in the middle so the PCB is the primary heatsink, the heatsink on top is secondary, needed but not primary.
Can anyone repair a voodoo 5 5500?
I understand that perhaps English is probably not your first language, but just a little bit of advice to help us to understand what you're saying:
Please slow down, you talk to fast, plus you mumble. Open your mouth wider, so that you can speak more clearly. Probably the quality of your microphone isn't that great either. Otherwise a very informative video. Thanks.