NZXT Tried To Make a Gaming Keyboard...
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- In this video I take a look at the NZXT Function keyboard. It has some big problems and I try to make it better with Gateron Milky Yellow Switches and MT3 Ironman Keycaps.
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a future video idea is to make a membrane keyboard as good as a mechanical one.:)
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Isopropyl alcohol will unglue hot glue. It works insanely well. It doesn't melt the hot glue or anything just un-sticks it.
I gotta try this
@@HipyoTech hipyo my beloved
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It’s true, I clean my dab rigs out all the time and the resin is like glue, isopropyl takes that shit right out 🤣
@@HipyoTech Good luck boss!
I like what NZXT is doing with the configutator online, and it seems to be their own design? But what you get in hand does not match the price tag. They also charge a kinda yucky premium for ink switches.
Do you know where the configurator is online? I'd like to check it out
@@DanielKaspo I’m pretty sure it’s on their build website.
i do like the layout too, unlike regular 75% ish layouts the modifiers are "full size". idk what you'd call this layout but i love it, I've avoided layouts between 60% and tkl so far cuz they usually shrink one or more of the right side modifiers
The options I've seen today in things like SSDs, peripherals, etc. are overwhelmingly lackluster or out of stock or zero info available. Rest look okayish but pricey.
Love this kinda editing style, it works super well! 🎉
phumtum fircos
roblox kid
Bro what you doing here
@@P_Yllow I'M WATCHIN' A KEYBOARD VID, WHAT ELSE AM I DOIN' HERE 😭
@@SomeSteven Bro I am a big fan of your content tho, while i'm speaking to you I thought I would say that now
The Glarses title card impersonation was 10/10
ouuuuuh yeaeaeah
Remember that time when NZXT sold cases that set themselves on fire?
H1 moment
my 13 year old nzxt case works pretty well, considering my cpu gets 40 degrees on idle
Man, that story doesn't H1 bit, does it?
You mean 2 months ago?
There gigabyte 2.0 lmao
The most crowded keeb ever but i bet it has good airflow
What does a keyboard need airflow for?
@@d8j473 it’s a joke about PC’s: usually a good and well built PC (or more specifically case) has good airflow to keep all the parts cool and not overheated
@@d8j473 It's a joke, NZXT pc cases are joked about having awful airflow
@@samskordi6079 they were memeing about bad airflow, but then released H510 flow
It’s nzxt, it CANT have good airflow
TBH, Cherry profile is really only very common in enthusiast circles and with companies that engage with the enthusiast community. Most of us forget that OEM profile is called OEM for a reason, and is why most mainstream keyboard makers couldn't give a rat's ass about north facing LED's. I'm also a minority within the hobby, I guess, since I just don't prefer Cherry over taller profiles.
That's a fair point, but for the average gamer the nzxt board is awfully overpriced for what it offers. What is attractive about it is supposed to be the customisability. But even that gets ruined by north facing LEDs.
@@spellfox_ Considering that Cherry keycaps are only one profile out of many, I don't think north facing LEDs "ruin" customizability.
SA gang?
@@DrDarkly currently using cherry profile on a north facing. No interference problem at all. Now that the long pole switches is getting more common with the new releases north facing boards will no longer be a problem for cherry profile users unless the molding on their keycaps is thick
I love after every transition. its just a scuffed version of glarses oohhh yeahhh transition scene.
This keeb is for gamers who want to say they have a custom keyboard. They *want* north facing LEDs, so they can properly illuminate their shine-through and pudding keycaps.
Most of us were like this once. This is an accessible stepping stone into the hobby. Many will get this and be happy, and a (in)lucky few will go down the rabbit hole and quickly upgrade.
I guess, but tbh its honestly just another unnecessary stepping stone. Most who have money would go from big brand gaming (corsair, razer, logitech, etc.) to maybe ducky or keychron, and then into the rabbit hole. With the bigger companies becoming slightly more "custom" recently, NZXT's keyboards aren't even really new in any way. It's just another subpar board with none of the gaming advantages (optical and analog switches) and the same level of customizability as the big brands now.
Pretty much, they're late and hyping an extraordinarily average board.
(P.S. it's "unlucky" not "inlucky," just letting you know)
@@sish9912 It was a typo, but I'm sure you surmised that 😉
To each their own, but I disagree with the premise that they're adding nothing new. Have you seen the builder?
You can select layout, size, base colour, switches, base keycap colour, accent colour, accent cable style and cable colour. Then there's multiple matching mice and desk mats to select from too.
No scrolling through endless SKUs, just a straight forward, step-by-step selection process, that's cheap enough to make decent switches your first 'mod'.
It's hotswap, RGB, and basic enough for anyone to follow with clear instructions. All for just $130, plus an admittedly expensive build option if you don't feel comfortable with peripheral Lego.
It's definitely not something that appeals to me, but I can absolutely see its place in the market as a 'my first custom'. I wouldn't be surprised if it was rather successful, and competitors followed suit.
In fact I'm not aware of any mainstream brand that's offering that level of customisability or flexibility, especially at that price point.
I'm happy to be proven wrong if you're aware of a similar product from one of the big boys?
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Ducky is just the way better 1st stepping stone. A lot of their boards are cheaper or the same price as some of these 'gamer' boards.
@@jamesweller7606 I certainly agree, but there's a reason Razer, Corsair etc shift so many (frankly crap) boards; bling and mind share.
Not every demographic is known for their sensible, utilitarian peripheral choices 😉
Remember when EVGA made a hotswap keyboard and despite keyboards not being in their wheelhouse... it was good for the price.
Also, I hear good things about those Kailh Speed Bronze switches they had a hand in designing.
I have the Kailh Speed Bronze switches! Highly recommend them for clicky switch fans, the sound isn't as obnoxious as blues and they feel really nice to type with
@@bravestofheart browns are clicky what???
@@Happydiamo kailh speed bronzes are clicky, not be confused with speed coppers or your generic brown switches.
@@freddricklow1111 no way thats insane
@@bravestofheart don't speed bronze have actuation before the tactility for some reason
Finally a keyboard with a volume knob on the left side. I have been wanting this for years.
with an increasing improvement in budget keyboards with the release of things such as the qk65 its ridiculous to even consider a keyboard like this for any beginner, it may be an interesting concept of hand-picking parts for more of a gamer, and not an enthusiast, but currently you can create a high-end sounding keyboard for a similar price making it not even a consideration.
after buying this keyboard for a few months i found workarounds to the issues I have faced and have also been shown in the video.
Issues in video
Stabilizers: I also lubed them but still found them to rattle so i replaced them with durock plate mounts and lubed them, i also did tape them as well
Glued Wires: I found i was able to slip a small screwdriver and unscrew the USB Daughter board, this requires nothing extra as it uses the same bit.
No Flex: I opted to replace the foam with pillow foam and unscrew the top plate a bit
Issues I had that were not in the video
Issue 1: Hotswap socket breaking. I really don't know how to put this but either I have a defective model or this might happen to many of them, I only replaced the switch once and it worked perfectly fine for a few months, one day I noticed that my K key had stopped working, I took the board apart and found that the copper pin of the switch was not making contact with the socket, despite being fully in. I opted to fix it the janky way by sacrificing a switch that came with the board. I cut the pin off of one switch and sort of jammed it in the backside of the socket
^This issue is not solved as now sometimes it will type the letter twice instead of once but i'm too lazy to figure out what causes it, I'm assuming its the pin i jammed in not being seated for a second when I press the key hard.
Complaints: It took me 3 months to figure out what the side buttons do. The top and bottom were easy to figure out, The top is a mute output button. The bottom is a Brightness changer for the RGB. However It took me until a month ago to figure out the middle button. I believe it is a game mode that turns off the windows key. What I do not like, however is that the buttons are not remappable.
The sound of keyboards keeps me up at night
I like my NZXT computer case but their SOFTWARE is absolutely horrendous, NZXT cam was causing computer crashes every day due to 10 tasks being ran at once just to control the rgb on my case. Thought my PC was broken. I wouldnt trust their keyboard software either.
Hey I watch your videos
@@AwesomePossums111 Hey!! Thank you :)
Getting a kbd67 lite because of you
@@offzordart great board :)
wait i know that green face
Best hot glue advice. If it's just hot glue, isopropyl alcohol will make it peel right off with 0 effort. It's a magical chemical process.
I think it's time to evolve and say that NF LEDs cause interference with Cherry profile keycaps with SOME switches, as many manufacturers are solving the problem with new molds. Gateron Pro switches, for example, do not cause any problem.
Same with budget switches like Akko. Long pole switches is now getting more common
I mean the hot glue is actually kind of a good thing for a pre-built, you can normally pop hot glue off with a sharp knife and there's no risk of the cable coming out and people wondering why their keyboard has stopped working. They've still used a connector rather than soldering the wires straight to the board, which WOULD be a dick move.
I guess that's an argument but how would the cable come out? You could probably throw your keyboard off a cliff and the cable wouldn't come out.
@@spellfox_ that's a little hyperbolic. Vibration from transport or a small drop is sufficient. We're talking about a plastic tab less than 1mm tall.
Also companies don't spend extra money on things for no reason. It costs more to add a connector than directly soldering, it also costs more having an additional operation to add the hot glue during manufacture.
I actually love north facing because the rgb is more bright. Plus I don't use cherry keycaps so its not a problem for me.
how would it be brighter ? its facing the other direction when they are south facing you are directly facing them
On their configurator they offer a choice between ISO and ANSI layouts. Offering both 3 sizes AND a choice of layout, it's genuinely impressive! Until I noticed the ISO keebs are only available in Euro stores and ANSI is only available in US/Canada. And, indeed, no shop can ship international.
The offer is so limited for ISO layouts, and these days we've got people moving all around the globe. Why couldn't a Spanish or Finn or French person stuck in the middle of US get an adequate keeb
Hipyo thank you for making amazing videos and ive recently got into modding keyboards and I really love doing it so I just want to say thank you for inspiring me
The cool thing about NZXT is they take criticism, they fixed their BLD after getting criticism about it maybe they will fix their keyboard
For the bent plate, you found the 2 screws under the rubber feet on the wheel side, you didnt crack it open, right? RIGHT? (tbf, putting those screw under there was an ass, anti mod move too...)
For the glued wires, you can unscrew the side buttons daughter board and bypass the glue problem !
The software exist but is pretty limited, keymapping is limited to moving keys (as they are on the keyboard) around, no layers or fine keymap customisation. And even on the RGB, brand competitors do it way better.
Also, i dont know for the one you got, but mine (the first) came with a really, REALLY, strong pink hue while rgb where on white, i needed to offset everything a lot to get right colors. I got a replacement who is better, but still pink...
that's unfortunate about the sw, honestly at this point for anything aimed at customizability if it isn't fully qmk compatible it immediately gets a 0/10 from me. there's absolutely no reason why you would make a pcb or get one made and not just use the already existing qmk and via sw and code, i cannot imagine that is anything but more work to make your own customization thing and at that point is just being anti open source
Darn, when I first heard about this board I though it looks pretty good... I do like the minimal design, although the 75%+ one does look pretty crowded. I wouldn't buy it, but it would be good for the mainstream companies to up the competition.
Too bad it turned out to be more over priced gamer plastic...
Although, I might give them a break about gluing in the cable unless they specifically market the board as moddable. The vast majority of people looking for a board from a mainstream company aren't going to open it up, and things certainly come loose in shipping. The glue prevents that. However if the board is marketed toward enthusiasts it should be designed with modding in mind.
I ACTUALLY HIT SUBSCRIBE AT 5:40 AND U REALLY DID A MAGIC TRICK, OMG U SO NICE HIPYO HEY :'))))
What a coincidence, just finished my first board with hand lubed milky yellows! Hyphen key doesn't work, though, so I'm hoping my switch puller gets here soon.
I think that switch sounds amazing lol
These vids are getting better and better keep it up
Hahaha, such a fun video as always! Drama class definitely paying off.
I will say that thanks to really loving MT3 profile, it's been nice not needing to worry much about north facing switches. But yeah, I then forget how annoying that is for folks who prefer Cherry profile.
Doesn't surprise me in the slightest, though, that NZXT failed on this one. I mean, in all honesty except for enthusiasts it's pretty a counter intuitive design choice.
Wow... for 30$ more you can get a gasket mounted full aluminium board with south facing LEDs, QMK and VIA, a proper knob, and no glued wires. This may be the worst value for a keyboard on the entire market
Which keyboard are you referring to
@@prochristos Keychron q1
@@LeOneToyota Keychron q1
@@stoofyboof4399 Exactly.
Yeah with 30$ more for shipping + 20$ more as taxes, so the comparison isn't really relevent
Lmao, after the last video, your word about "Keyboard! Canceled!" fell pretty funny
I was excited to see another full-size keyboard enter the market. Unfortunately it just doesn't have anything I really want. I'm hoping to find something like the keychron K10 with even better quality and features some day (without being $300+ or soldered)
I need to use excel for work, and I went with a Varmilo full size. No regrets.
they should stick to aio's and pc cases..
You could check out a keyboard Fantech made. It has your favourite gatreon milky yellows (pre lubed even) and build in case and plate foam. The keyboard is also a hotswap keyboard with SOUTH FACING LEDS!! I only couldn't find anyone talking about it cuz Fantech is not a big company and does not have many interesting products like this one. btw it costs 128 euros in my country!
Its a local brand here fantech is quite famous here (Indonesia)
I picked up a full size one of these up for just $79 AUD brand new and on sale ($51.41 USD around time of purchase). Given the many advantages it has over my previous Logitech G12 (I think) - of which had a slew of unresponsive, overresponsive and multi-triggering keys - and not being a keyboard enthusiast myself, I'm pretty damn happy with the purchase. Fingers crossed!
"ooh yeah" my man! You are a man of high class and culture, bravo!
Great vid as always but could you make the sound test longer? it's always short
It's basically a 50 to 80 dollar keyboard you'd buy on sale that they are charging a premium for. That's just sad
I'm OK with north facing. I like shine through caps on north facing.
For a second I thought they did something as heathenous as glueing the stabilizer wires.
They glued the wires so it is less likely that it would come apart in shipping and that would avoid more returns. Not a good experience for an enthusiast that wants to mod the board, but it doesn't seem like that's their target audience.
It's funny how when Hipyo switches to commentary I feel like it's the hippo talking now and now him😆
From those transitions and edits, I can tell you were definitely a fan of Francis of the Filth.
"I wear the north face, I don't want this in my keyboard" is the coldest line you've ever said.
that intro was amazing, gave me some pink guy vibes from filthy franks old videos.
Alfred is my favorite side character I have seen in such a long time.
lol I would compare this to the tester84, which is similiar in features but has a top alu frame, thick plate foam and better stabs, and it costs like 4x times less...
Yeah that really shows how insane nzxts profit margins on this trash are
i spy my boihipyo getting into film photography. nice camera on the bg
I'm still in shock from the intro alone..
Hipyo throwing it back is not something I thought I'd see in my lifetime
For your information. NZXT did that too on the prebuilt PCs. With all the love and care of a middle school workshop project.
A Skyloong GK board would do everything this does for cheaper, and even has lubed stabilizers.
i love the glarses reference section cuts
I just got this board on discount for $50. My other board is a Ducky One2 SF which I definitely love but was a bit loud with browns and also has soldered switches :(
I'm liking this board (with reds) as it definitely has a lower and heavier sound to it. But the stablizer rattle is for real and it does feel a bit crowded. The Fkey row is nice but yeah that extra row on the right is garbage. So yeah - it has potential and I'm glad I didn't pay full price for it.
Ahahah hipyo adding the glarses ooooh yeeeah in the background of the video lmaoooo
I find you Morty personality traits most pleasing
LUBED GATEARON MILKY YELLOWS WOOT WOOT
Also just a shout out I saved your hippo switches, (lubed spring only) for my Rama U-80 I just snagged. I feel the power of the hippo gods every time a keypress
The glarses TRANSITIONS. bahaha hahaha omg. got me so dead
One tip in removing hot glue. 90% isopropyl. will cause it to release bonds. wont help if its encased. but if its just setting on, itll pop off
the glued part was definitely the final straw
Lol I love the Glarses editing style xDD
the dancing in the begining was amazing 😂😂
The 15 camera angles are truly chad
I don't really get all the hate. Who is buying the NZXT keyboard in this community? I don't think this keyboard is any better or worse than a Razr or Corasire keyboard, and I think the target demographic are people who would one of those pre build keyboards. While the points you made are valid, I doubt the people who would purchase this keyboard would ever take it apart much less know what the hell north facing or south facing LEDs are.
I still think that north facing LEDs is a poor choice for a non-enthusiast keyboard. People that don't know a lot will want to customize their keyboard (honestly customization is probably the main interest for a mech keyboard in the eyes of a non-enthusiast) with new keycaps and they will not look at the profile, the layout or the size of the keys, they will be like "Oh pretty keycaps, I buy" and end up with keycaps that does not work well with their keyboard because of LEDs (especially since cherry profile is one of the most popular one)
Full size + volume dial is appealing. No media keys, wrist rest or macro keys though. I do dig purple though
I thought I was watching a Glarses video with the editing and sound effects "aww yeah"
Wait.... North facing LEDs are bad? That's all I've had and none of them have had any problems with any of the keys.
Imagine me buying the pc75b from akko with the dancer set keycaps ( cherry profile ) and not knowing about interference issues with North facing LEDs. I really it isn't too noticeable if at all
If the switches are Akko too then there is no problem with it. Akko switches has long poles so the interference issues is negated unless you use a thicker cherry profile keycaps
I love the way with part slides you got that from glarses( this isn’t hate) I love the style and you make it work really well
I was waiting for something like this to come out
U mean so u can laugh at how bad it is, right?
Hipyo has that trunk 🥵🥵🥵🥶🥶🥶🥶🔥🔥🔥
I had a feeling when I first saw it, it would be bad. Don’t forget the temps on some of their cases lol
Alfred Spraylube is my favourite character in the Hippoverse
"similar to a child who will only eat beans im very picky" I CANNOT!! lollll
so I bought these keyboard new for 59.99$ CAD.
so lets say 40USD
for $40 USD I think its pretty hard to beat.
the intro is legendary
Listen Hipyo, as a Brit, it is normal to get excited over a nob, they are fun to spin on keyboards. Keep ye minds out of the gutter :/
I don't understand the point of backlight if it doesnt shine through the keycap letters
I didn't know Taran from LTT had a brother. Nice to meet you.
i'm new to the channel, is that little "ooh yeah" inbetween video chapters a tribute to filthy frank's? me likes it
I do actually have the full size one. Has been decent so far as all that I play is mostly controller based, and minecraft so, really can't complain about gaming. About typing it's very good, but the hollowness is driving me crazy; I'll definitely have to mod the shiz out of it before I go insane.
About the "knob" if you can call it that way, it's kinda annoying that I accidentally scroll it some times, but you get used to it. Finally, the buttons on the rhs are terribly placed. I move my keyboard around a lot and I always hit them so, yeah
Overall I would say 7.5/10
They do make good water cooling
I got the function tkl with my PC and I actually wound up replacing my razer huntsman mini with it. Best pack in keyboard I've ever used!
The first scene when he was dancing was the best 🤣🤣🤣😂
They really weren't that close to greatness. The keyboard looks kinda neat. That's all it ever had going for it.
I would say they were about as far from greatness as it gets
Seems like the even the v1 is a better deal. Even though it is also plastic and used north-facing LEDs , it comes with pre-lubed stabs.
The adlibbed Glarses noises are this season's Howdy Hey. Time to accept it
HIPYO TWERKING BEFORE GTA 6 IS CRAZY
Alfred vibing in the background
the only NZXT KEYBOARD video i need is the one from Switch and Click. i love her till the end of time and space.
Hi Hipyo I love your vids keep doing an amazing job
sounds good wonder what you thoughts on New GMMK 2 lol 65%
How did this man resurrect that keyboard bravo bravo
Glue is easy to remove lol, and it's there so the wire doesn't rattle out under transport, it's faster and cheaper to apply than tape.
9:07 Bro no way you just referenced an adult scene with keyboard switches.
"similar to a kid who only eats beans, I'm very picky"- Hipyo 2022 (also I feel targeted cuz I used to only eat beans or peanut butter sandwiches)
i don't understand people hating on normal (north) facing leds. have you had south facing ones? i did. the rgb experience with it was vomit inducing. the led bulbs on the very bottom row of keys are basically shining directly into your eyes. also since 90% of third party keycaps have top aligned legends. so you are either left with shit rgb because they are miles away from the legends, or having to scorch earth to find bottom aligned keycaps you like.
Think it's mainly the folks who are buying the keyboard, bringing it home, and then immediately tearing it down to put new switches, caps, stabs, lube, etc.
@@7evYT still, you need switches with south facing led housing, keycaps with south facing legends and the whole shit for it to work. the guys is saying it as if south is the norms even among DIYers. it's not. i have no idea where his rant comes from.
7:22
NZXT: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAG DOWN!
You can say what you want but the that the plate is the highest part of the case and you don't have the lip that hides the switches is a biiig plus for me and you usually don't see that on most "custom" keyboards.
Fair enough, but you really have to love the design a lot to be able to ignore the vast flaws on this massively overpriced board.
I actually looked at one of these and they seem promising but I’m still gonna have to go with the basic Tofu65 lol
check out the zoom65 it'd a great budget board about to drop
if you do the tofu, go plateless and do the penny mod on each side for serious flex
might wanna check out the bakeneko or qk65
I'd go the KBD67 Lite over the Tofu65 tbh. As someone who has both I prefer the Lite. Better sound, cheaper, comes with a carry case, better mounting system. I added the switch foam and silicone dampener for the bottom of the case for a bit more weight but both options sound great.
@@chem1kal it’s $210. I would not call that budget
condensed layouts, non offset f-row, no via support, floating keycap design, north-facing, GLUE...it's a no from me dawg