Hi! for competitive games it doesn't matter the soundstage or if it's iem or over the ear, but in sound separation and step identification is better Ziigaat or HD 560s? in my country they cost the same.
Thank you for the great video. I’m thinking getting into IEM’s looking into this one in particular. Have you tried the SM4’s and did you connect the Ziigaat directly to pc or through a dac
i used the ziigaat connected through a dac amp but it’s pretty easy to power with anything but higher quality dac amp will sound better. I haven’t tried the SM4 yet
Hey Ryan, great video! Bought the Moondrop Aria 2 when I saw your video previously regarding it and was convinced to purchase it, unfortunately within a month I had issues with the Right side where as the sound quality just turn robotic. I'm deciding on upgrading it, and going for something much more solid build and long lasting, was told about the Ziigaat Doscinco or the Kiwi Orchestra Lite. I can't decide, which one do you think would be a better option for NON DAC PC gaming.
I have not tested the Ziigaat Doscinco or Kiwi Orchestra lite yet, I can only attest to Ziigaat Arete and Kiwi Ears Quintet I showed in this video. However I do know the orchestra lite does not have any dynamic drivers, so I assume the Ziigaat Doscinco would probably be more to my taste than the Orchestra lite. Hope that helps
they are both good it’s just that the JH5 has a smoother treble and more bass, which is similar to the ziigaat arete. The simgot em6l is similar to the kiwi ears quintet, which is more balanced but brighter
@ryanhostudio I'm on the Aria2s but looking for something that has a similar tuning and listing experience for music but with a bigger soundstage and precision for audio Ques in gaming do u think the Arete would be a logical upgrade from that or is sound profile not 2 similar 2 the Aria 2s
Great video! I'm impressed by IEMs sound quality, even though I only tried cheap ones as availability of these in my country is almost non-existence, either ways really love your ur reviews man!
Fiio k11 is a good bang for buck desktp unit, or k11 r2r. Onix xi1 alpha is a great dongle dac for $100 with plenty of power for headphones too. 500mw/32ohm with the 4.4
Awesome review I’m really interested to buy it but when you want to replace a console headset we need to know which mic we could pair with it with a console like PS5. That would be awesome if you can guide us.
There are mics like this that work with a boom mic. Keep in mind I havent tried them before but maybe I reach out and get one to review in the future amzn.to/45ODxfR There are also in line microphone but those typically sound worst but here is an example of one amzn.to/3zlWzy8
Have you used them in single player games? If you have, In your opinion, do they bring a immersive experience or are they more focused towards competitive gaming?
it has big bass and brings out alot of dialogues its pretty nice for single player games. I've been playing a lot of wuthering waves and honkai star rail with them
easy answer, 9 ohms means it’s efficient and uses less power and is good to plug into anything Long complicated answer, Sound will be influenced by output impedance of what you plug it into, generally well made dac amps have low output impedance of 1 or less, which is 8 times less than the 9 ohms of arete, so it should not effect the sound. Things like the output impedance of motherboards have been measured to output 70 or 80 ohms, which can change the tuning of something like the arete and most IEM because of impedance mismatch Solution: 1) who cares just plug it into to whatever 2) dac amp like topping dx3 pro+ or something cheap like apple dongle
@@ryanhostudio And does the low ohm value affect the sound of the headphones? I tried to study the information. But it's still confusing. But what I think is Ohm value of each earphone He must have tuned his voice very well. To set the Ohm value, that's all. I don't know if I understand correctly. I'm a newbie just getting serious about headphones.
Nice review! I just got the orchestra lites via amazon prime deal days for $200 and man I love the sound but they physically KILL my ears after 15 mins of wearing them. Like they hurt A LOT. I know I will be returning them and these are the ones I am thinking about getting to replace.
@@Hijynx87 I used sencai tips but the pressure still bothered me and so did the nozzle size on my right ear. literal physical pain after a few minutes. Ended up getting the supermix 4 for 120 on amazon and like them alot. I still prefer the oprchestra lites sound wise though.
@@pwn3426 what do you think about the supermix 4 for gaming? i mostly care about footsteps and being able to tell how far or if theyre above or below me. Not sure if you play competitively but overall what do you think? Thanks in advance
@@Strafings Supermix 4 is solid imaging and soundstage is pretty good for IEMS. I can tell where people are just fine. I still think the orchestra lites were better for footsteps just because the sound of them seemed to put the sounds of them more forward than the supermix 4.
The Ziigaat stock tips are trash, I wonder how many people returned their iems because of them? Some people don't use aftermarket tips for some reason.
It may sound really silly but I can use them to play live drums. I want to get the most out of them by playing competitive COD and playing live drums. Thank you so much 🫶
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Ziigaat makes excellent quality IEMs. There is no surprise to me that their new collab Arete is a good IEM.
thanks yeah i am looking forward to trying there doscinco too
Just bought a pair of these used few times for 110$ super excited to try them out! After a neck injury I can’t wear headphones 🎧
Hi! for competitive games it doesn't matter the soundstage or if it's iem or over the ear, but in sound separation and step identification is better Ziigaat or HD 560s? in my country they cost the same.
What is ur best iem for gaming especially valorant and watching movies i was thinking about the moondrop Crinacle dusk but what do you suggest ?
Thank you for the great video. I’m thinking getting into IEM’s looking into this one in particular. Have you tried the SM4’s and did you connect the Ziigaat directly to pc or through a dac
i used the ziigaat connected through a dac amp but it’s pretty easy to power with anything but higher quality dac amp will sound better. I haven’t tried the SM4 yet
Hey Ryan, great video! Bought the Moondrop Aria 2 when I saw your video previously regarding it and was convinced to purchase it, unfortunately within a month I had issues with the Right side where as the sound quality just turn robotic. I'm deciding on upgrading it, and going for something much more solid build and long lasting, was told about the Ziigaat Doscinco or the Kiwi Orchestra Lite. I can't decide, which one do you think would be a better option for NON DAC PC gaming.
I have not tested the Ziigaat Doscinco or Kiwi Orchestra lite yet, I can only attest to Ziigaat Arete and Kiwi Ears Quintet I showed in this video. However I do know the orchestra lite does not have any dynamic drivers, so I assume the Ziigaat Doscinco would probably be more to my taste than the Orchestra lite.
Hope that helps
Doscinco is amazing fun, it's bassier than the arete and not quite as good for comp gaming, but still pretty good.
Great video!
thanks nice IEM!!
also down to que together if you ever wanted to play
@@ryanhostudio yes that would be epic!!!
@@ryanhostudiowhat is ur best gaming IEM at a max price range of 400 euro’s?
@@29esther30 i do like the arete alot
What would be the best tips to use if you were using these for gaming? Specifically for footstep audio
This one is on the top of my list but the amount of IEMs being released I might wait closer to Black Ops 6 release.
yeah there’s a new one every week haha
Super Review, and very beautiful IEM one of my favorite with the splendor 2 , but i'm more interested why do you use the JH5 over the EM6L for gaming?
they are both good it’s just that the JH5 has a smoother treble and more bass, which is similar to the ziigaat arete. The simgot em6l is similar to the kiwi ears quintet, which is more balanced but brighter
@@ryanhostudio thanks bro, realy good channel, keep up the good work ✌
@ryanhostudio I'm on the Aria2s but looking for something that has a similar tuning and listing experience for music but with a bigger soundstage and precision for audio Ques in gaming do u think the Arete would be a logical upgrade from that or is sound profile not 2 similar 2 the Aria 2s
Ziigat arete, Sound Rhyme Sr5, truth ear Nova 😊 what do you like 😊 ?
Nice!
When you compare with the truthear zero is it with or without the bass dongle?
without the bass dongle
Great video! I'm impressed by IEMs sound quality, even though I only tried cheap ones as availability of these in my country is almost non-existence, either ways really love your ur reviews man!
lucky you were able to get these than!
@@ryanhostudio worth it over the EM6L?
@@ssaini5028many have said theses blow the EM6L’s out of the water
Hi. One reviewer said that Arete is slightly brighter at high midrange frequencies. It's true? Or is it almost imperceptible?
What is a good/recommended Dac/Amp that works well for these IEMs?
depends on how much you want to spend i recommend, topping dx3 pro+, hidizs s8 pro, hidizs sd2
Fiio k11 is a good bang for buck desktp unit, or k11 r2r. Onix xi1 alpha is a great dongle dac for $100 with plenty of power for headphones too. 500mw/32ohm with the 4.4
Would you upgrade the cable?? Been hearing the cable is meh so I’d like to upgrade but don’t know what to buy. No more then 50 usd
@@L3GIT91 cable is pretty boring but it works lol. I haven’t really bought any secondary cables so don’t know
@@ryanhostudio gotcha! Well is there a cable you recommend just in general not necessarily for the Aretes?
I bought mine but it’s taking a while to get here. How long did it take to get it shipped to you? I live in cali
same i live in LA mine took over a week
Awesome review I’m really interested to buy it but when you want to replace a console headset we need to know which mic we could pair with it with a console like PS5. That would be awesome if you can guide us.
There are mics like this that work with a boom mic. Keep in mind I havent tried them before but maybe I reach out and get one to review in the future
amzn.to/45ODxfR
There are also in line microphone but those typically sound worst but here is an example of one
amzn.to/3zlWzy8
@@ryanhostudio IEM is a big thing but to replace console headset that would be nice to have a recommandation of IEM with mic problem solved
@@rach7962 Hi, were you able to come to a conclusion? currently in the same spot as you right now
Would these be appropriate for monitoring live stage performance in say a rock concert scenario?
i don’t think they are a monitoring set they are more bassy and treble is slightly darker than neutral
Hello , witch is better? This one or orchestra lite? For cs2 and valorant play?
i haven’t tried orchestra lite yet
Have you used them in single player games? If you have, In your opinion, do they bring a immersive experience or are they more focused towards competitive gaming?
it has big bass and brings out alot of dialogues its pretty nice for single player games. I've been playing a lot of wuthering waves and honkai star rail with them
@ryanhostudio damn man, that was an amazing quick response. You just earned a new sub 😊
I'm planning on using it for games like Horizon, tsushima, and other new releases, so I'm very excited to try them.
@@nickb365 yeah if you like bass they definitely have it
@@ryanhostudio can't wait
I am a newbie This ohm rating is only 9 ohms. Is it good or bad? Does it affect the sound?
easy answer, 9 ohms means it’s efficient and uses less power and is good to plug into anything
Long complicated answer, Sound will be influenced by output impedance of what you plug it into, generally well made dac amps have low output impedance of 1 or less, which is 8 times less than the 9 ohms of arete, so it should not effect the sound. Things like the output impedance of motherboards have been measured to output 70 or 80 ohms, which can change the tuning of something like the arete and most IEM because of impedance mismatch
Solution: 1) who cares just plug it into to whatever 2) dac amp like topping dx3 pro+ or something cheap like apple dongle
@@ryanhostudio And does the low ohm value affect the sound of the headphones? I tried to study the information. But it's still confusing. But what I think is Ohm value of each earphone He must have tuned his voice very well. To set the Ohm value, that's all. I don't know if I understand correctly. I'm a newbie just getting serious about headphones.
@@pkcchannel7311 low impedance doesn’t really effect sound as long as the dac amp gives output impedance that is lower
@@ryanhostudio Thank you very much for the information.
Nice review! I just got the orchestra lites via amazon prime deal days for $200 and man I love the sound but they physically KILL my ears after 15 mins of wearing them. Like they hurt A LOT. I know I will be returning them and these are the ones I am thinking about getting to replace.
If you still have them try tangzu tang sencai balanced eartips to reduce pressure. or foam will work too.
@@Hijynx87 I used sencai tips but the pressure still bothered me and so did the nozzle size on my right ear. literal physical pain after a few minutes. Ended up getting the supermix 4 for 120 on amazon and like them alot. I still prefer the oprchestra lites sound wise though.
@@pwn3426 what do you think about the supermix 4 for gaming? i mostly care about footsteps and being able to tell how far or if theyre above or below me. Not sure if you play competitively but overall what do you think? Thanks in advance
@@Strafings Supermix 4 is solid imaging and soundstage is pretty good for IEMS. I can tell where people are just fine. I still think the orchestra lites were better for footsteps just because the sound of them seemed to put the sounds of them more forward than the supermix 4.
Have you tried this on apex legends??
nope been playing valorant and the first Descendant
What is ur best iem for gaming especially valorant and watching movies max price 400 euro's????
about to drop review of ziigaat doscinco soon it’s quite a fun one with lots of fun bass
@@ryanhostudio wich one do you prefer for Comp Gaming and movies Blessing 3 VS Orchestra Lite VS Arate VS Simgot EM6L VS Supermix 4???
how is this for competitive fps like cs2 i need a break from the headset
works really well for valorant but i havent tried it with cs2 yet
Why isn’t zhulinniao’s qingluanz4 available? It’s also a great headset.
first time i heard of it
@@ryanhostudio Very good headphones, I really hope you can explain it for an issue
I’m debating on getting these or Yanyin Canon II which one do you think is better?
hi i havent tried the yanyin canyon II yet
@@ryanhostudio thanks for the reply I want to pull the trigger on the arete but if the canon II are better I wouldn’t mind paying that extra for them.
What is the best dac amp to pair with it
i like the hidizs s8 pro robin for dongle and desktop the topping dx3 pro+
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The Ziigaat stock tips are trash, I wonder how many people returned their iems because of them? Some people don't use aftermarket tips for some reason.
It may sound really silly but I can use them to play live drums. I want to get the most out of them by playing competitive COD and playing live drums. Thank you so much 🫶