Plumbing Rough-In Ep.43
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2019
- This plumbing work was done by my good friend Phil Rokus. He is a fantastic plumber and great all-around mad scientist type. You'll be seeing more of Phil in later plumbing videos in this series.
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I Love Phil. Gets his info from rumors. Lol. My kind of humor.
he is the best
A lot of good info. I totally agree - PEX looks like crap to the teutonic mind but is functionally perfect. Some people claim it is a nightmare: I don't understand. I've had my share of leaks with copper, never had a problem with PEX. ABS is really tough but is a bit more difficult to install properly. It really is swings and roundabouts. Grey PVC is a pig - frequently doesn't like to glue and is really brittle and super expensive. The only reason it is code is the toxicity of burning ABS and PVC> I think if you are fighting a fire the ABS burning is a small part of your problems.
I love how plumbers are all women. Maybe that's why we see such interesting choices of underwear when they bend over 😂
So does everybody. He's just smart enough to realize it.
@@francisrampen9099 Not my experience. I've had no problems with copper. Two friends have had house damaging PEX problems within 5 years of installation. Doesn't prove anything, I know, but I trust copper not PEX.
I'd hire Phil just to talk to me while I did all the work. 😜
Ha!!! That is just one of the reasons I have been so pleased to have worked with him for the last 20 years!
I nearly died when he said a goodie gets stuck somewhere and you get these weird flow issues. I originally thought he was referring to large bowel moment.
@@equallywrong As the vacuum truck operator said, when the hose bucked, "There's a 'double flusher'." 😉
William Degnan lol great minds think alike
hahha
Black is totally quieter! The B in ABS is Butadiene, a sub-molecule of the ABS polymer that is fairly elastic (Butadiene rubber is one of the common rubber replacements). This elasticity helps to damp vibrations like sound, making it quieter in general. Loved the video. What a mountain of information is crammed into that old salt's head :)
Just wait till we get him talking about his previous life as an old school tight tolerance machinest!!
Abs is far more robust.
@@essentialcraftsman machinist
@@lrc87290 really, we All knew what he was talking about, even with the misspelling, get a life
The quantum physics explanation is also 100% legit.
Once you're done with this project, it would be fantastic if you could catch everyone involved in the project in a circle and have a talk about it. Good things, bad things, expectations, outcomes, above, and under et cetera.
From my perspective as an European (but likely of any viewer, really), it would be awfully interesting to hear everyone talk shop about the project, common US/NA standards, things done right vs things done wrong, maybe a little Q&A with viewer submitted queries.
Something like two episodes, as an epilogue to the story that is the Spec House.
Now this would be a fascinating thing to watch
That would be awesome! I'd absolutely watch it!!
Can't discuss the bad things until after it's sold.........
Do this please!!!
aserta please do this!
My shoulder is sore from watching Phil use that manual expander.
Had the milwaukkee toll the entire time!
"That's when plumbers were men" Phil is awesome!
Phil is a deceptively sharp fella, Scott-as well as interesting and funny.
I like Phil's haircut. Makes me nostalgic for the early 80's.
😂🤣🤣
He just needs to grow a mullet
I worked for a plumber for years, pride makes the jobs look as good as they work, pvc cement fumes make plumber sense of humor entertaining.
"I was really short then." Best way to say that I've ever heard.
Okay, now you're an expert!
LOL
This guy should have his own channel.
I'd watch it.
We use "expert" as a friendly insult, amongst some of my pals.
An EX is a Has-been
A SPURT is a drip, under pressure.
Loving the series! One thing as a low voltage guy we use to do in drilling into the joists I found many times the knock out wold not line up. Running long runs with many wires in them would cause a ton of issues for the jackets besides it looked crappy. What I would like to do is drill one hole at the beginning of the run, then get a laser level shoot it through the first hole and it would shine to the next joist. Because its lever and it shows the laser light point it shows me exactly where it put my drill bit point no measuring and marking. this was a hug time saver. All my holes were laser straight and correct placement within the web of the engineered joist my GC's loved it. Now because everything was on the same plane and in a row the runs went SUPER fast with no damage to my wires. Just a tip I use to use when I was in the trades.
I feel like a lot of people don't appreciate the power of a laser level. So very simple, but so powerful.
this is such a good idea. I'm just doing the pex water lines in my new house and now they will look professional, that is until i get to the LVL beams that can't be drilled.
@@alm7707 - PEX is not supposed to go in a straight line, it should simply look bad and crooked - see 5:05
@@elbuggo ya so he says, then he puts them in straight anyway. I don't see any LVL beams to work around like in my house anyway. Pex will never really be straight anyway, at least not like copper can be.
@@alm7707 - I think there are problems with too straight PEX installations, because PEX expands a lot when temperature rises and the pipe needs a place to go. On long stretches, a 360 degrees loop could be added to get room for expansion.
Real people, doing real jobs. Taking real pride in their work. Love it!
Okay, here’s the real dope on why the larger diameter pipe wants to push back apart: the “glue” isn’t a glue, it’s actually a solvent. And what he’s doing isn’t gluing, but solvent welding. So what happens is that the plastic melts- gets a little mushy - and expands in volume. That’s why you have to hold it together for about thirty seconds. (It’s good practice to do the same with the smaller diameter pipe, too.)
By the way, that’s why you should ALWAYS give the pipe a twist while pressing them (pipe, fittings, etc) together - it assures better distribution of the solvent and mixing of the two surfaces. Best practice is to dry-fit the parts, mark the orientations, take them apart and “glue”, twisting to the orientation mark.
Also, primer isn’t a waste of time. It dries quickly (in fact you can apply the solvent as soon as you’ve primed, because the pieces are ready by the time you’ve returned the primer brush to the can and dipped the solvent brush.)
One more tip: don’t overdo the solvent - you don’t want it puddling inside the pipe.
Any steps a person might take to "compensate", so to speak, for a situation where the connections can't be twisted?
@@ILikeWafflz , I can't think of a case where I couldn't give the parts a seating twist, but for argument sakes let's say you've run into one. In that case I would be extra vigilant in cleaning, priming, and applying the glue. And if possible, wiggling the parts as I pressed them together. And hold them in the finished position for an extra beat.
The glue this dude uses (without primer) doesnt even dissolve the writing on the pvc pipe.
"What's the best water pipe? Inconel X-750. It'd be expensive, though." worth watching just for that joke.
You would have a nuclear capable house though.......they use that stuff in the powerplants.
Might be a little tough to cut with the skilsaw though.
I’d chop up my water supply pipes for about fifty-eleven suppressors and just replace it with copper!
I'm a pipefitter. We work with Inconel quite often.
Oh I started cracking up when he mentioned Inconel....
Hah! "We'll eyeball it if we have pride in our work." That's vocational mastery right there. Champion.
Phil is brilliant, entertaining and very insiteful. Would be nice to see him on your channel again in the future :) maybe he could have his own series of videos.
You know what i'd like? Once the project is done and completed, to have all the guys involved in the project have a chat. Talk shop, discuss the house, the outcome, things that could've been done different, things that went above expectations et cetera.
I think a two part episode on what is the modern US/NA builder (at least in my European perspective) would be extremely interesting and insightful.
Nice to hear a honest plumber
"ya know I run on rumors, thats where I get most of my information"..... legendary quote
“But that’s when plumbers were real men”! I love that quote! 😀
So what are plumbers nowadays?
@Ej Wu, roudy youngsters. For sure, i've met good plumbers among the younger ones, but unfortunately, the large majority doesn't cut the mustard. And that's in my eyes, unlike my father and grandfather before me, i'm far more lenient with work ethics, which probably makes me a young'un architect compared to them, tho i like to keep the family tradition and stay on site 80% of the time.
He did not use the word "real"
Consider running both hot and cold to the outside hose bib by the garage. Its such a nice touch, and cost little more.
Copper is antimicrobial. I remember when refrigerated water fountain manufacturers switched from copper tubing to PEX, the fountains that were not in use on weekends (like schools & offices) could and did have an unhealthy bacterial buildup. Now they probably use a special antimicrobial PEX.
My wife mixes her own soy milk with a special soy power. When she stored the soy milk in a glass decanter in the fridge, it became moldy overnight. We switched to a copper decanter and no more mold. Some hospitals are switching from stainless steel door pulls to copper pulls to reduce the spread of mrsa germs.
I get excited when I go into an old house and see a plumber or electricians good work. I really do appreciate it. Most don't find it interesting.
Show me this wondrous place where you can have a good plumber or electrician. Dear god, I've fixed so many mistakes when doing renos. I'm a wood-elf but damn I've had to learn both other trades just to get the job done. In too many places, if it's hidden, who cares. Almost died in the last place I was working on. Trim sawing through a bit of sill trim to replace a window, cut through a 240V 40A unarmoured stove line. Arc vapourised my saw blade. The previous electrician was too lazy to open the wall to put the line inside [2x6 framing!]; just laid it and covered with 1/2" trim. The worst is fixing mass market spec houses.
@@Kaptain13Gonzo Not every place is great. But I've seen some awesome electrical soldiering and copper plumbing installs in old houses. I can tell when someone takes pride in their work just by the way they twist their wires together.
18:40..." playing with this medieval unit"...😂😂
I've learned so much from this channel and the numerous skilled tradesmen featured in these videos. Everything from the peaceful music, stories/anecdotes, timelapses of construction progress, and safety tips make it so satisfying and a joy to watch.. Thank you Essential Craftsmen!
20:58
Added this video link to my resumé 🤣
"I'm an expert" and that's THAT! 😎
Love Phil! He's so right but so wrong at the same time.
Phil reminds me of a great man I once new. My best freinds late father lost to us some 30 years ago. The way he talks and acts is uncanny. He was a mentor of mine. Could listen to him for days and never get tired of the way he explained things. Cant wait to see him again later in the series.
That plumbing guy is a hoot! I enjoy these videos even if I'm not working on that part of the project - after viewing dozens of these and having them help me on my research I find myself just enjoying being in on the discussions and education. Well done.
Like this guy, super knowledgeable so much information. Favorite line “but that’s when plumbers were men”
Here in China & HK and probably Taiwan as well, no one use primer on a PVC pipe, be it a waste or fresh water pipe. There's no primer for sale, people in the trade don't even know what a PVC glue primer is. But I hardly heard a waste pipe failure at a joint. I can't speak for the case of fresh water PVC pipe though, since we don't use PVC pipe for fresh water in HK. We are mandated to use only PVC pipes for its superior chemical and UV resistance.
Phil seems to young to be a throwback. You work 10 hrs a day with him you wouldn’t believe the day went so fast.
EXACTLY!!
Thank you both for the the knowledge. Love the humor. Older guys story's are the best and they always have something you can take with you through life.
Every job site needs someone like Phil.
I have been in the home building/remodeling business for just under 30 years and there is nothing like the camaraderie between craftsman. True craftsman ones that truly care about their work. I would love to work with u gentlemen. The knowledge I would absorb and the camaraderie would be priceless!! Thank you for making and sharing these videos with all of us!!
Boy you really hit the hammer on the head with that Phil character. He had me in tears with his running commentary
Yep! Phil is a one-of-a kind guy... and it is a wonderful kind!!
"Ok now you're an expert!"
Honestly, I cant get away from Uponor pex . I absolutely love it! I have installed thousands of feet of it, and the durability, quality, ease and consistency of terminations, and ice resistance make in an absolute beast. Just get that cordless pex expander and it makes life so much easier ;-)
I'm surprised the plumber had the hand powered model. I have the hand powered one, but only do the occasional Uponor pex repairs, so can't justify having the power version.
Also surprised he's not using colour coded expansion rings to more easily differentiate between the hot and cold runs. Same price, makes it easier to keep things organised.
@@VC-Toronto he had both for sure.
Just saying for anyone else, it's the best $150 I've spent on a specialized tool. Pays for itself in one visit
Vern C go to 19:55
I'm sure Phil Rokus is going to get tons more work because of this building series, seems like a wonderful man.
Phil is a legend
Inconel water pipes. Hell yeah! I would hire Phil, he seems to know his trade well.
Hi Brian! 👋
The wisdom from the plumber is very valuable.
So glad to see you are using Uponor/Wirsbo pex tubing. I was in the plumbing supply business for 28 years and when this system came to be...it really changed the game. By expanding the pex instead of crimping it...you are working with the properties of the material instead of fighting it, as pex wants to return to it's original size and shape..
Contractor and Home remodeler here in Houston, Texas. I wish I could do this work in yalls environment. I love that part of the country. The humidity here is thick. Im usually sweating before I get to the truck from my front door!!
This series is incredible!
Phil reminds me of early content Essential Craftsman. Lots of tips and tricks. Modern day EC is still fantastic though!
I could watch(and especially listen) to this man work all dang day! Can't get enough. I was actually disappointed when I checked the videos info for a follow up link on Phil but there are none sadly.
Got to love this plumber
"...when the toilet flushes and someone screams..." lol that's still my parents' house. Love this series.
When addressing PVC I was shocked to see the plumber twist the fittings after applying the glue for a better result, plus replying a second coat of glue to a already prepared fitting . In my country that go's against everything we've been trained to do. So it made me reevaluate my approach to the extent I've shown your video to my boss to show him our methods of plumbing are not necessarily the right ones, & that he doesn't need to sack anyone who adopts a different approach. For that Im most grateful. 👍🏽
I logged in on my phone just to comment that this plumber is not only good at his craft but he’s a good guy to watch! Love this guy man
The inside of the fittings has a taper, it's only tight on the last inch or so. That's why they want to pop back apart.
Beat me to the comment (I used to install spas and hot tubs, so was always glueing up sched 80 rigid pipe, learned to hold the joint together pushing together for a good 15 count before letting go. Only had 1 glue joint leak in 5 years of doing installs)
@@VC-Toronto yeah I spent the last 9 years working maintenance for a water park. Lots of 12 inch schedule 80 glue ups.
Vern C what was the cause of that one leak?
rtz549 - not sure. I blamed they guy who was helping me that day.
Wow, quantum physics is a lot simpler than I thought.
a real person. refreshing.
I love the inconel joke.
He just delivers it totally deadpan.
Just to give some context on Phil's comment on INCONEL as the best pipe material to use, INCONEL alloy x750 and 625 are qualified for use in nuclear reactor-core pressure water piping systems and rocket engines due to its high strength and corrosion resistance.
One advantage copper has... it is anti-microbial.
As a home gamer I just have the mechanical PEX expander. Works great for repairs. But for that scale of work I'd certainly want a powered version.
Thanks for answering my earlier question on the ABS vs. PVC on the drain pipe. Phil is right about black pipe being quieter, its foam core attenuates sound. He's also spot-on regarding how it distorts easily.
I think there is a new candidate for most interesting man in the world.
Ray Straining naw, Scott’s got that wrapped up.
@@steveallmand784 I was talking about Scott.
Your videos just keep getting better and better. Loving following this journey with you. Cheers!
Phil needs to get his own channel - Most entertaining/informative plumber on RUclips.
"I run on rumors. That's where I get most of my information." Pure Gold!!!
"Quantum Physics!"
Thats freaking great....
I love this Plumber!!
Phil has several lifetimes worth of knowledge. he’s forgotten more than we’ve ever learned 💯
Milwaukee also makes a smaller 12v version of the propex tool, a lot more compact to fit tight places and its much less costly. But still way more costly than ear type crimp tools.
I bought one of these and had to return it, just not enough power. Theu do make a 18 v version though.
Joseph DESTAUBIN - did my whole house with 3/4 inch PEX for the heating system, never has a issue. Batts went a long way. If someone has big PEX like 2 inch and larger, the 18v tool is necessary, which he shows in the video later on.
@@robertp7209 It's actually an even bigger 18v tool for 2" and up, the one in the video only goes up to 1 1/2".
Paul Brown - I see, so Milwaukee makes three tools, and I also find that Dewalt and perhaps others offer proPex cordless tools.
@@robertp7209 yep. I think the Dewalt one is pretty new, I've never seen one in action.
HA! We put an addition on our house just when PEX was coming on the market in our area. I had spec'd copper throughout, but, like Phil, the plumber said "I get way more callbacks for copper than for PEX", so I let him do it. He left for the day (well, his inexperienced assistant) without testing the system. We turned the water back on and FLOOD!. His initial tie-in to the existing copper had not been crimped - clamp was there, just not crimped - and failed immediately. :) No issues in the 20 years since, however.
My other issue with PEX is that I can tie into my copper water lines without a problem, but I need a whole new set of tools to do PEX.
Best content on RUclips
"It's some sort of a, um, what do you call that? Quantum Physics?"
"Quantum Physics explains it perfectly."
I'm ded.
I nearly pissed myself when he said that...🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for the plumbing education!👍👍
Phil is awesome! Funny guy!
Love the addition with allowing the plumber brother nsome time to speak on some things, shows humility and comradery.
Thanks for another great video and God bless you and your family.
As always a great video... Phil is great to listen to...!
lots of respect for you doing all that hand operated pex expantion tool pumping to show your viewers the cheaper way to do it with the hand held instead of the $500 dollar tool.
When you were drilling those holes in the TJI's, that particular smell of OSB came right to the front of my brain. Funny how things do that.
I have learned more industry knowledge during your last 4 videos than in 100 videos on individual subjects. I'm fascinated! I know making these videos are just as tedious as doing the work. THANK YOU!
This plumber is the bomb!!!
Interesting and odd! Here in Sweden the code is to use sleeved pex pipes (pipe inside a pipe) only I believe. And you're not allowed to make any joints or splits inside a wall or closed space. Everything needs to me connected at a central place open for inspection. And the sleeves are there to protect the pipe and if a leak happens it will drain the water to that central connection point and never into a wall or anything.
Thank you,
This is very interesting, and I would defenitely search more about this technic.
But if a leak happens, how do you find the source of it? If everything is covered in sleeve. And then how do you fix the leak? You would have tocut the sleeve anyway.
@@alteragnostik If there is no joint/split in that sleeve, you can just pull the old inside-pipe out and put a new one in. Should be fairly easy?
pipe inside pipe is called conduit. If there is a leak then you just pull the entire run out of the conduit and run another one.
Thats the best ending to a video yet!!!
Phil reminds me of Norm MacDonald!
Great video. Thanks guys. Keep up the great work...
I'm a plumber...i learned from one guy who knew it all, but wasn't great at sharing his knowledge...anyway you cleared up a few things i had questions on hope to hear more from you later on in the series thank you !
Phil is an awesome guest on the channel, he sounds like he has a wealth of knowledge. Another fantastic video, thanks for the amazing content guys. Can you pass on a big thank you and G'day to Phil from Sydney Australia. I look forward to more on plumbing and the build. Cheers Tank.
More wonderful content. Thanks!
I'm really enjoying this series. Thanks.
Love this vid. So much wisdom!
I’m watching several RUclips channels and talking to a few contractors and friends about design and construction ideas. These EC videos are always great to see come out for me.
This guy is a wealth of knowledge
Thank you for the answer to my question on primer. Keep up the great work!
Fascinating stuff....Thank you
Love this guy, much knowledge
23:57 Boy that old Milwaukee drill from the 90s ive still got 1 that works .,I could listen to Phil's Tips For Days .
Thanks for the video! What a wealth of information you are providing to the community
Working on a shed conversion. These videos are very helpful!
Type A is the absolute best
Love this stuff. Can't wait to see more especially from other trades like Electricians, Framers, Finish Carpenters etc..
Great education you are providing us! Thank you again.
Thanks for letting us watch Nate go through initiation with good-natured trades ribbing. It feels like being part of the crew, and the comraderie.
Excellent content Scott and Nate!
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
Some real soundbite gold in this one! LOL "that's when plumbers were men" "now you're an expert" (That's my fave) Love this guy. Thanks for another great video guys.
If you have Phil as your friend/sub contractor I can’t wait to meet the rest of the get along gang building this house. He was knowledgeable and a true plumber with all the peaches he left on your videos
Thanks for including different trades, that’s a giant idea. There’s nothing like the insight of a master tradesmen, even though I’m sure you could personally teach us enough about plumbing. I learned a lot, thanks again.
Really raised the bar on this one. An great one in a series of great videos.