Hi Dave I be been registered Approved Contractor for 13 years I found your videos very helpful and the best available I listen your video when I can during the work or at home You are great thanks
Great video Dave, I like to use the method you described here. The only additional thing I do is put a piece of insulation tape on top of the socket with the measured resistance value written on it. I also then go back to the board and link the other end, then use a different colour tape and start writing resistance values on socket fronts. Then if the ring isn’t logically wired, at least you can start removing the two sockets with the “highest resistances” first. I find it very effective especially if you’ve no idea how the ring has been previously wired.
Great video thanks - I use the same method. I use the continuity buzzer on my MFT but same result - been a spark since 1980 but I could listen to you all day cheers Dave keep em coming 👍
Really useful, ,thanks, I have my AM2 coming up in December.....these videos are invaluable to me; helpful reminders, and new tools for the mental toolbox too😀
Great video thanks - I use the same method. I use the continuity buzzer but same result - been a spark since 1980 but I could listen to you all day cheers Dave keep em coming 👍
Hi want to say thanks for the videos, recently started studying again at the age of 27, starting my NVQ level 3 next week and I've been watching your videos a lot to get my head round it all. cheers dave
Best of luck Dan, you can do it. I know lots of folk who started in their late 20s through to 40s and they now have crackin little businesses. Stick with it, learn a little every day. It takes time, but time is what makes you good. Dave.
Always draw what you see Tony, take loads of notes and save them in case you go back. Sometimes the only way is to disconnect at the board and resistance test on the most sensitive scale that your multimeter will go to and look for the ohms to increase as you move along the wires. Thanks for the input. Dave.
Excellent video, as always. As a suggestion, it might be worthwhile to link in description to your video that shows how to map out the path of a ring circuit, in case it’s not as logical a path as shown here. My own house has a strange ring, with two adjacent sockets in the lounge having a path upstairs (serving all sockets) then back down, rather than just being joined to one another…. Linking up that other video with this one makes a useful complement.
Hi Dave, issue at home please could you help, I was washing car with jet wash, when I went to unplug I got a very noticeable shock , a good tingle in my fingers that made me pull away quick… the plug was wet as I’d mistakenly left the socket lid up and it had got pretty wet as were my hands. I’m guessing some electricity was leaking up through the moisture. The sockets are on an RCD but it never tripped? I tested the RCD and it trips in time and tripped at 25ma on a ramp test. Any idea why it wouldn’t have tripped? I’m guessing there was at least 25mA of current leaking as I got a good tingle so should have tripped ?
If you've tested it and it trips ok, then I would say that the shock current you felt was a lot less than 30mA. they do say that a current as low as 10mA will make you sit up and take notice. Also, if you were wearing rubber soled shoes that would reduce the shock current too. Lesson learnt I guess. Hope you're OK. Dave.
That's a great idea for a follow on video. Thanks. The sparky should have marked them and/or taped them. If not, remove a socket and test from the CU to find which pair is which.
In theory this is a good way but the problem with doing it this way is as the resistance rises you think this the wiring route that as been installed but the sockets can and in most cases in my experience can give false results because of there age are how they been used over the year ,so after many times of fixing breaks in rings it really is better to remove the sockets of the wall.
Have a look at the video on the link below. When you do the crossover, a correct crossover will be R1+R2/4 at each socket. If you have incoming and outgoing mixed up, you will get very different values at each socket. ruclips.net/video/iVAEDEvNObE/видео.html
Hi Dave I be been registered Approved Contractor for 13 years I found your videos very helpful and the best available I listen your video when I can during the work or at home You are great thanks
Thanks for the great feedback, really appreciated. Dave.
Great video Dave, I like to use the method you described here. The only additional thing I do is put a piece of insulation tape on top of the socket with the measured resistance value written on it. I also then go back to the board and link the other end, then use a different colour tape and start writing resistance values on socket fronts. Then if the ring isn’t logically wired, at least you can start removing the two sockets with the “highest resistances” first. I find it very effective especially if you’ve no idea how the ring has been previously wired.
What an excellent method. Live and learn every day. Thanks for the tips, definitely worth investigating. Dave.
Great video thanks - I use the same method. I use the continuity buzzer on my MFT but same result - been a spark since 1980 but I could listen to you all day cheers Dave keep em coming 👍
Great tip Mike. Thanks for your support, really appreciated. Dave.
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Thank you, great feedback. Lots more to come.
Really useful, ,thanks, I have my AM2 coming up in December.....these videos are invaluable to me; helpful reminders, and new tools for the mental toolbox too😀
Learn a little everyday. A dripping tap fills a bucket. Good luck and thanks for watching. Dave
I have my am2 coming up, thus channel is very helpful 👌
If it helps, great. Try and revise a little each day, rather than too much the night before. Good luck. Dave.
Great video thanks - I use the same method. I use the continuity buzzer but same result - been a spark since 1980 but I could listen to you all day cheers Dave keep em coming 👍
Thanks for sharing another way of testing Mike.
Thumbs up first then start watching
Thank you, lots more to come. Dave.
When the route of the ring isn't quite straigtforward, Dave's video TRACING SOCKET CIRCUITS and other ELECTRICAL CIRCUITS is very useful
Thanks for the plug. Appreciated.
Thanks for tricky testing explanation.
You are welcome, thanks for watching.
Ive watched videos on this subject in the past but none were as clearly explained as this one, top notch 👍
Glad it was helpful and thanks for watching. Lots more to come. Dave.
The one I've been waiting for, cheers Dave. Always excellently explained.
Glad to help, thanks for watching. next weeks is about breaks in the neutral. Thanks for the support. Dave.
Very informative and it helps me a lot because am starting to go back as a technical personnel. Thanks a lot…
Glad it was helpful and stick with it, its a good trade. Dave.
Excellent video and I will watch it again just to get it cerebrally embedded.
Thank you, appreciated.
Hi want to say thanks for the videos, recently started studying again at the age of 27, starting my NVQ level 3 next week and I've been watching your videos a lot to get my head round it all. cheers dave
Best of luck Dan, you can do it. I know lots of folk who started in their late 20s through to 40s and they now have crackin little businesses. Stick with it, learn a little every day. It takes time, but time is what makes you good. Dave.
Very good. Nice and simple. The hard bit is often the mystery of the socket runs and sequence along with spurs
Always draw what you see Tony, take loads of notes and save them in case you go back. Sometimes the only way is to disconnect at the board and resistance test on the most sensitive scale that your multimeter will go to and look for the ohms to increase as you move along the wires. Thanks for the input. Dave.
Very helpful video. Thanks
Glad it was helpful and thanks for watching. Dave.
Simply the best! I love your methods and I never fail to understand everything clearly. Thank you once again
Happy to hear that and thanks for supporting the channel.
@@learnelectrics4402 I wonder if you could do a video on under voltage faults, possible reasons and solutions. Regards
thank you
You're welcome, thanks for watching.
I was waiting your video this morning, thinking what is it going to be 🤔
Hope you enjoyed it, after making you wait. Thanks for watching. Dave.
Another great video 👍
Thanks for watching, very much appreciated.
@@learnelectrics4402 your videos have helped an old man getting into being an electrician 👍 keep up the great work..
Brilliant videos 👍
Glad you like them and thanks for the support. Dave.
Brilliant, thank you.
Glad it was helpful and thanks for watching.
Top Quality as usual🍺🍺🍺
Thank you, appreciated.
Excellent video, as always. As a suggestion, it might be worthwhile to link in description to your video that shows how to map out the path of a ring circuit, in case it’s not as logical a path as shown here. My own house has a strange ring, with two adjacent sockets in the lounge having a path upstairs (serving all sockets) then back down, rather than just being joined to one another…. Linking up that other video with this one makes a useful complement.
That's a great idea, also suggested by another viewer. I will get this done and thanks for the prompt. Dave.
Brilliant, just brilliant.
Thank you, glad you found it useful. Dave.
Excellent. Thanks 👍
You are welcome, thanks for watching.
Brilliant, this is the easiest way 😊
Glad you think so Craig. Thanks for watching.
Top Content every time
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Hi Dave, issue at home please could you help, I was washing car with jet wash, when I went to unplug I got a very noticeable shock , a good tingle in my fingers that made me pull away quick… the plug was wet as I’d mistakenly left the socket lid up and it had got pretty wet as were my hands. I’m guessing some electricity was leaking up through the moisture. The sockets are on an RCD but it never tripped? I tested the RCD and it trips in time and tripped at 25ma on a ramp test. Any idea why it wouldn’t have tripped? I’m guessing there was at least 25mA of current leaking as I got a good tingle so should have tripped ?
If you've tested it and it trips ok, then I would say that the shock current you felt was a lot less than 30mA.
they do say that a current as low as 10mA will make you sit up and take notice. Also, if you were wearing rubber soled shoes that would reduce the shock current too. Lesson learnt I guess. Hope you're OK. Dave.
Thank you 🙏🙏
You're welcome, and thank you for watching. Dave.
Really usefull
Glad you think so and thanks for watching.
Liked & subscribed
Thank you, appreciated. Dave.
Can u please do a fault finding on lighting circuit please
Will do.
Awsome😊😊
Thank you, appreciated. Dave.
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Thank you Brian.
How would you identify the legs on the ring circuit if it’s wired in singles protected by conduit?
That's a great idea for a follow on video. Thanks.
The sparky should have marked them and/or taped them. If not, remove a socket and test from the CU to find which pair is which.
Is it possible to use a ring circuit for lighting purposes?
Nothing wrong with that, except that for most lighting at 6A or 10A breakers, the T/E cable easily copes with the demand current as a radial.
Yes but use a 3A, 5A fused spur to protect the additional lighting circuit cable.
In theory this is a good way but the problem with doing it this way is as the resistance rises you think this the wiring route that as been installed but the sockets can and in most cases in my experience can give false results because of there age are how they been used over the year ,so after many times of fixing breaks in rings it really is better to remove the sockets of the wall.
Thanks for your input, appreciated, Dave.
How do you identify incoming and outgoing pvc singles at the board?
Have a look at the video on the link below. When you do the crossover, a correct crossover will be R1+R2/4 at each socket. If you have incoming and outgoing mixed up, you will get very different values at each socket.
ruclips.net/video/iVAEDEvNObE/видео.html
@@learnelectrics4402 Thanks I'll do that test first in future.