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Schizotypal person here! I am excited to see Lauren include this in her wonderful content! I think Schizotypal can get to the point where they celebrate their own eccentricity as well as celebrate quirkiness and weirdness in general! It almost feels like life can take on this sort of holy mission-vibe where we are on a stage of chaos versus order or good versus evil, and I think Schizotypal people can either come on a little strong for people who want ever statement to be anchored in their present, pragmatic reality, or they can be very exciting for people eager to escape into their minds by scraping the sky and ruminating everything into oblivion to feel better about their penchant for detachment. I think it can share that with Schizoid in a way, as though hyper-intellectualizing is either an escape or a way to satisfy some kind of hidden hyper-vigilance that has an OCD-like flavor to it (I have pretty bad OCD, which is comorbid with Schizotypal). If I sound relatable or interesting you might enjoy clicking on me and see this sort of abstract-minded person unload. I used to be a lot less grounded than I am now, so my reasoning is pretty cohesive and I can articulate myself pretty well if the social anxiety isn't overwhelming things. Maybe not everyone experiences that headspace with the Cluster A personality disorders because especially Schizotypal and Schizoid are very likely to be loners attempting to be quasi hermits. Headcase pride! :) Thank you!
thank you for writing this, i really want to come out of my shell more so that i can be happy, and seeing someone else who feels how i do be open about it shamelessly is really inspiring. I went to the psychiatrist after a bpd diagnosis looking for help, and he diagnosed me with this. what i mean by mentioning this is that (part of) the development of what i think is the only thing that needs treatment (bpd) was an attempt to "control" my eccentricity; causing a lot of internal confliction and consistently unavoidable frustration spanning all of how I function. I am not an introverted person, at all, but for so long i was that "quasi hermit," I'm happy to take my life back and live my own way regardless of how others will interpret my "capacity" as a "whole." god i hope that makes sense LOL
@@aseal6412 Oof, amazing, Schizotypal people are always completely spellbinding, no matter the scale of it. You make perfect sense to me. It's a little funny, I have identified as deeply introverted for my whole life, but I have had people look at me like I'm insane when I actually say that I'm an introvert, but the thing is, if I am a headcase-y sort of person who feels averse to most social contexts then "introvert" is a pretty natural label, especially when the whole thing of "getting energy from one's internal world" is basically amped up x100 with Schizotypal. The social anxiety really is pervasive, maintaining the flow of conversation with neurotypical extroverts is genuinely challenging, and my mind is usually minutes away from becoming a torrent of negative possibilities, so I am choosing to go easy on myself for being a quasi-hermit for now. I am glad you wrote this too because probably people should see that it is indeed a personality disorder, but it hasn't been hard to spot the merits of it too.
@Ash S Thank you so much! I think it's ok to decide to be prideful about it, because like I mentioned in the previous exchange, in my experience Schizotypal people are pretty often minutes away from their minds becoming a torrent of negative possibilities, like some kind of unstoppable force of neuroticism just looming that we need to be on guard for, but, amidst that I have always been able to find clear merits.
@@cansofswine126 It makes me so excited that we could feel this, and I definitely received your high five! I already know you are outrageously thoughtful, and I love your username (possible Pork Soda reference from Primus, not sure). Headcase pride! :) :)
1. Ideas of reference 2. Odd beliefs or magical thinking 3. Unusual perceptual experiences 4. Odd thinking or speech 5. Suspiciousness or paranoid ideation 6. Inappropriate or constricted affect 8. Lack of close friends and relationships
@@armsracer8273 It feels like it. Plus if there's 101 dalmations, they can justify 5150 combinations of medications. I got denied MediCare this time around so I'm winging it, and none of this hair-splitting seems beneficial to me.
I’ve gone to counseling on and off for many years I finally gave up because I was initially diagnosed with severe depression with anxiety yet I’ve been put on antipsychotics and many other types of meds even though my diagnosis remains the same and I’ve never been properly evaluated
@@komatsu8169 it is my understanding that schizoid personality doesn’t have *any* social drive and neither desires nor enjoys social relations. Schizotypal is more focused on the magical thinking and odd behavior (with the social discomfort caused by anxiety)
I just got diagnosed with this the other day and in true psychiatric nature, the doc just told me that I had schizotypal personality disorder and that was it. There’s not a lot of information or resources out there for this disorder and this video helped me understand it a bit better.
Same here. I’ve been seeking a diagnosis via full evaluation for 12 years. Psychiatrists just said bi-polar. Never believed them. Full psyche eval showed this. Had to see a clinical psychologist to find out.
My sister had many of the symptoms of schizotypal personality disorder, our mom was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and her only child, my nephew, has a severe form of schizoaffective disorder. He does not have the insight that you do, Lauren. It has been a tough road for him. Thank you for the content and info you provide. 🙋🏻♀️💕
that's why a lot of practitioners want the barrier removed. they can be co-morbid. PDs are trauma responses + genetics, and autism affects how you perceive the world around you, so that would definitely lead to developing a disordered personality if you were raised in an environment where your needs as an autistic child weren't met, particularly those who go undiagnosed as autistic or misdiagnosed with something else because they tend to be dismissed as just being "overly sensitive" or trying to manipulate people via "temper tantrum" when in reality they're having a meltdown.
Not if you see it in real life! Then you see it very well. The problem is that when you just read the symptoms or hear them, you can interpret them as being the same kind of thing. However, in action, these are VERY different. It is a lot more like what you would imagine a mild schizophrenia would look like than what ASD looks like. I guess it is kind of like if I described an animal as being about a foot high with pointed ears and sharp teeth. Well, it sounds like a cat, right? But I may also be describing a Miniature Pinscher. Or even a raccoon. And there is a big difference between a cat, a MinPin, and a raccoon in real life! And when you see them, you are pretty sure which is which right away! That is kind of the same way it is with schizotypal and ASD. Now obviously it could be both and then you are really in for it, but, otherwise, they are very different in what those symptoms are meant to look like. And, yes, that vagueness in the way they write about it is definitely an issue.
thought i was showing schizophrenic symptoms, especially since my brother is schizophrenic, had no idea schizotypal personality disorder was a diagnosis until my therapist said something!
You know, some researchers hypothesize that schizophrenia - an illness that can be horribly debilitating - has been preserved in the gene _primarily because of the benefits that _*_first degree relatives_*_ can have:_ ESPECIALLY schizotypy (doesn’t always mean STPD, can just refer to the traits themselves that haven’t risen to the level of a “personality disorder”). People with 1st degree relatives who have schizophrenia are much more likely to be high in schizotypy traits; and people high in schizotypy traits tend to be VERY divergent thinking, creative, innovative, and honestly just a breath of fresh air that’s very needed in our world. Out of curiosity, which hand of yours is dominant? Left, right, ambidextrous (can write with both), or mixed-handed (do some tasks with left hand, some with right)?
@@DannyD-lr5yg i am cross dominant! it’s similar to ambidextrous but it’s like a raffle on which hand wants to do what. or both. i can only do some things with my right, and some with my left, (i draw and eat with my left but play sports and use cups with my right), and some with both. sometimes i will feel more comfortable using one hand, yet the other hand is much more skilled in that area for some reason. i will mention that i’m also neurodivergent on multiple scales (autism, adhd, ptsd, etc) so that can also contribute :)
This was a great video, thank you! They tried to diagnose me with autism but I just didn't quite fit, so I started reading up on things that sometimes is mistaken for autism, and schizotypal showed up. It would be interesting to see a video explaining the similarities and differences between scizotypal and autism because I feel like it's not as obvious as it might seem.
I mean there are practitioners out there who think that the criteria of certain personality disorders not being co-morbid with autism spectrum disorder is hogwash (mine is one of them) since many of them are known to be trauma responses (including, but not limited to, schizotypal personality disorder). if i may ask, what about the autism diagnosis do you think feels wrong?
@@superzooperhaze6597 One of the things is that I don't get special interests. Instead I have a lot of different interests and I can't focus long enough on any of them to learn in-depth about it. Other than that I'm not exactly sure, it's more that I just don't feel like I can relate that much to autistic people I've met or talked with online. Another issue is that I don't feel like autism would explain most of my more serious symptoms. Like the one that drew me to this channel in the first place - I don't actually know if they would be classified as delusions or not, but they are very similar and have nearly gotten me killed several times because I think they are true at that time. I haven't really heard about that in connection to autism, other than the more rigid type where it's like "I want to do this and I don't understand the dangers", but I feel like that comes from a lack of understanding rather than a false belief, possibly? Though I'm not an expert in autism so it could very well be that everything I'm describing sounds like something you'd find within the spectrum.
Now im doing my level best to overcome from disociation That's im interested in watching movies and listening songs what the normal peoples will do but those things or works are completely devoid of logic. And then that caused me a mouth breathing little bit. And then this disorder is associated with the anger and burnout signs Will u pls clarify which episode is this
@@midnightblackheart1821 No, the two types of schizoaffective disorder are schizoaffective depressive type (referred to here by me as schizoaffective depression for ease of typing) and schizoaffective bipolar type. They are listed in the DSM-V
Every video basically says the same thing. I wish someone would make a video for someone with this, like including tips for dealing with paranoia, how to respond appropriately when others are sad, how long is appropriate to make eye contact, whethor medication is appropriate or not (anti psychotics), whethor it is ok to enjoy some of these beliefs, how to feel like I'm not in the back seat of my mind
never been sure about autism diagnosis, this personality disorder fits much bettter, even avoiding odd numbers. the only people i get a long with are men with autism and schizophrenia, i am female.
The only time I "suffer" is when I go through major stressful life changes.. Otherwise this "disorder" is quite pleasant. I am not quite as worried about "regular" things that other people are unless I try to "fit in." I am also autistic.
Topic suggestion: How do non-treated Schiztypal affected people typically deal with one another? Is there a sense of familiarity, or repulsion, or what?
My assumption would be that they would repulse. They are sus of everyone. And another schiztypal person would be the 2nd most suspicious person in the room. Followed by themself. From my time in the hospital there were people I connected with that joined me in my delusions but once they hung out with the people who were my adversaries then I couldn't talk to them anymore.
I have every single one of these traits, except that I’ve had lots and lots of very close relationships and friendships. This is because I know that alot of my behaviors are abnormal and I work around them.
Alot of people get it confused with autism even professionals! Plus "magical thinking" probably isn't the most helpful sympthom as anyone can have it which can cause more confusion lol. but if u study the disorder more indepth they have completely different underlying things.
the main thing that separated my autism and stpd is the odd interests and intense passion for those interests (special interests), and the fact i have sensory sensitivities and meltdowns. another thing was the fact that i consistently am convinced people hate me or are plotting against me in some way even when they give me no evidence, and that is very far from autism, and more closely related to schizotypal
Out of my mom and aunt's kids I'm the only one who was never screened as a kid. I always knew something was off about me though. I jokingly took a online test for it as a laugh to myself. But my result was schizotypal. When I actually looked it up I was surprised because just about every sign I read and heard from this video I have. I'm gonna keep this to myself because I don't think anyone would believe me if I tried to explain it. Its just nice to know I'm not just an "enigma"
When you are referring to unusual perceptual experiences, does it include extrasensory perceptions? For Example: Seeing in your mind, the person standing at your doorstep, before you hear the knock on the door. Watching an empty paper cup, visualising the person who used it. Having a life saving premonition ,before an accident is about to happen, feets away from you. Seeing people's faces as a dynamic construct, not distinct. Seeing images in your mind, whenever you visualise english text. Perceiving people's conversation from 200 feet. Without actually hearing it.
Think there is a " crossover" between mental health/ skitzotypal and supernatural, but even if you could prove it the psychiatrist wouldn't want to know as it would " play into your delusional thinking" or prove them wrong_ take your pick.
I've believed for a long time that my proper diagnosis should be schizotypal. A therapist ruled out schizotypal without giving me a satisfying reason why. He was one of the three health care providers who over the years have diagnosed me with depression, and that plain & simple is NOT my proper diagnosis because it doesn't take into account a lot of my thoughts and feelings. What bothers me most is that I simply don't fit in socially. The description of schizotypal sounds a lot like me: problems reading social cues and fitting in (what I call baby autism), psychosis that is quite troubling but not overwhelming (baby schizophrenia), and some depression. So, do I have a personality problem rather than an organic, neurotransmitter-type illness? I think so. Looking back at my childhood it's clear how my symptoms could have popped up.
You can't dianose yourself always go to a doctor just because you have symptoms of an illness DOES NOT nessecarily mean you have that illness you can't put a label on everything go to a professional
@@komatsu8169 I have been diagnosed with STPD. For my personal experience, I have the usual symptoms of ideas of reference, magical thinking, odd behavior that typically occurs when I start having anxiety. I genuinely believe that some people, if not all people, I’ve encountered aren’t necessarily one person. To elaborate, I believe that I’ve witnessed someone like my mom to have multiple versions as if they have split personalities. It even goes further to where I genuinely believe some people I’ve encountered aren’t actually real and could be some very advanced optical illusion where it’s hard determine the reality of it. I’m a strong believer of ideas of reference. I believe that certain things I see in the media where there just for the sole purpose to ruin my mood as if some entity knows exactly what to put on my feed to ruin my entire day. Speaking of entity, I believe that there is an entity truly out there that may not have full control but has enough control over my life and my surroundings to make me feel powerless. This is what I believe to be the perpetrator of why I experience what I currently go through since birth. Even worse, I believe that as time passes, it gets closer to truly reveal itself where someday I believe it will pop up out of nowhere to launch its final attack. I’m saying this to find reason behind my late night psychosis that I’ve been experiencing more frequently. I’d also like to mention I have OCD, so a lot of these so-called delusions I have are ways to fight against this already underlying issue I’ve been having since birth. I hope this helped. I’m sure each person with STPD has a unique experience, so it might be different for someone else with this condition.
I was diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder but I’m unsure if that diagnosis is correct. When tested for ASD, I scored on the very border. The major points of conflict I have with this diagnosis is I never had developmental delays, I can read facial expressions pretty well. Whatever I do have causes me distress because I don’t see things the same way others do. Tbh I though other people were just stupid but it doesn’t make sense that I would be the one seeing it correctly if everyone else tells me I’m wrong. Either way, I still believe my perceptions are true. Logically speaking, I know I shouldn’t. But I don’t understand other peoples logic.
many practitioners want them to remove the requirement that certain disorders can't be comorbid with personality disorders such as schizotypal because personality disorders are trauma responses + genetics + environment and things like autism spectrum disorder are neurotypes and not "diseases" or illnesses. there's nothing wrong about being autistic. it's just a different type of brain.
Yeah sometimes I get asked of I'm asd spectrum.. but it's just because I find hyper concrete interpretations funny.. and useful for masking Basically they start talking.. I come up with like ten angles and pick the most cartoonishly asd sounding one to say.. plus I enjoy the wordplay combined with subverting expectations.. This actually has helped.. they are more likely to he comfortable woth me being weird if it's something 'normal' like autism
Huh. My psychiatrist tried to get me screened for schizophrenia SO bad a few years ago even though I am not. I did suffer from a psychosis in my youth. This video helped me revisit that from a different angle, thanks.
As someone who has studied human behavior and all single celled organism behaviors… although correlation does not equal causation the laws of behavior and determinism will provide evidence that “things are connected”.
I thought the spots on the wall behind you were real on my screen but now that I know that they aren't it's clear I was ideally delusional is that how this works?
I v been diagnosed with this... Thing.. And for some reason I feel so enraged when i learn more about it. Like i m been targeted. Also there's so little info on this disorder online... I m so angry. I think too many things apply to me. I ve been bullied, people say that I m weird all the time, i see shadows, i struggle with depression and anxiety all the time... I m afraid to develop schizophrenia later in life(i m 16 now)
As someone who will never receive a proper diagnosis, I have random stages every few months tryna self diagnose myself but Schizotypal Disorder seems to be the accurate disorder.
I experience this but I do not have a schizophrenic spectrum illness. I become lost in my own head, confuse my partner, jumbled speech, ending up completely confused myself. I have been diagnosed with adhd, ocd with intrusive thoughts and paranoia, and possible bipolar disorder II. I am 44.
Fairies are real. I talk to them, but I don’t believe you have to, nor do I have externalized auditory or visual hallucinations, but internal visual and auditory experiences. I accept others deviation from me. What am I?
I'd personally consider that magical thinking, from what you've said. What do you mean by internal experiences? Like phantasia (mind's eye/headspace), actually physically feeling things, or in-between?
@@jellifygirl Oh definitely in between. So I know the difference between active generation of fantasy and passive reception of fantastic imagery. The interaction is actually in the realm of internal imaginative vision projected on the external world, but the sensations produced abide in sense memory. For example, I can have an internal mental conversation with one of them, and the clarity of impression is such that the memory of the interaction is like “live streamed” into sense memory, yet I didn’t feel or hear anything physical. For example, you imagine the way your mother speaks and you hear it as a sense memory. For me it is like an invisible hand reaches out to touch your arm, and there is no objective physical sensation, but there are the sensate trails of sensation that are in the sense memory.
If I weren't schizophrenic i would be schizotypal. Often I *can* be convinced that my knee-jerk thoughts on paranoid events are wrong but other times I can't and weeks must go by befor being able to be convinced I was mistaken. But on a good day I would say I'm more schizotypal.
I do not believe in psychotherapy or anything psych ... After graduated high school in 1988 ... And 34 years later I figured all this out without the help of a therapist psychiatrist and psychologist I did this on my own... But from 1989 to about 1999 I was forced by parents so go to these doctors ... The reason because everything in HS revolved around music playing drums in bands and making lots of friends... They all came to me in a sense... Because when HS ended was when I had trouble being completely alone going to a very lonely environment in a community college... So no dormitories just 3 hour classes that bore the hell out of me and I went home and was basically had a friend here and there... One of the biggest issues was with females and relationships and sex... This also tore my mind up and gave me to this day low self esteem.. I went to a psychiatrist and the experience of this was so blasphemy I never took it serious again.. I saw a man by the name Ron Kamm and after 3 to 5 sessions... I had a first experience with a prostitute in my car which I ended up watching her open her door side of my car and spit my cum into the street... And this was a black street hooker with leopard skin spandex pants and then paid 50 dollars for this... This experience really had a choke on me... That when I saw this Psychiatrist I told him about the incident and then to cash in on trying to find something horrendous... And I didn't see this coming ... He was like what did you want to do to this hooker or crap like this... And my response was I want to kill hookers... Now that was just from that experience... And because of this statement and to get back kick back money from 2 different mental institutions he said I can no longer see you as a patient unless you go on my orders to hospital 1 or 2 I chose 1 because 1 was in my state number 2 was out of my state... Now I was about 19 or 20 and just dumb about these people I took them seriously as they acted seriously over dramatically seriously... He then gave me Trilafon which all SSRI's are shit more about that change later... My parents were no help in this situation that made me make the decision and I felt at the time brainwashed by this asshole... No long after I went on his orders to Hampton Hospital for 3 months because of a statement which this place was run by somehow narcissistic author doctor of books ... I started being nervous being thing... I started saying I don't know why I am here... It looked like a pleasant hotel ... But Jesus watching them lock that door and not being able to leave the floor was new to me... And basically cried most of the time I was there.. I felt I made a mistake.... I was being watched based on a statement which they felt I was homicidal ... That was because I was thinking something... Well since then how about this forgot hookers I wouldn't mind humanity just drop dead off the face of the Earth ... Now see that's not going to happen I think about making it happen but I know it's just me being angry at the human race... And feeling like I was a dog with a leash with powerful people of the government and mental health bullshit such as this... So during my stay I got more angry and looked at the world in a different way... And when I was released I went back to the same doctor and he told me that wasn't good enough and should continue to go to a local inpatient programs well they all sucked big ass .... They were run like Cuckoos Nest ... So after about a few months of battling with him in 1991 to now I see a shrink who in the 1990's tried me on like 30 different SSRI's because he had reputation of being a druggist and he was... I was given every new drug that was new and released and was like everytime there's a new so and so and had this huge file cabinet with samples... So that went on a while and THEY ALL SUCKED... 2002 I try Oxycontin and that was the drug that I been taking to deal with my bullshit every since.... Why because the fucking stupid field don';t know how much benefit these drugs can do but because of doctors and criminal activities opioids now have the worse reputation .... Any the point is the diagnosis the hospital gave me was this and depression schizo typical... And the drug my shrink gives me guess well the only one I take ZENZEDI YES I LOVE LOU REED ....
I also am on klonopin and xanax i call them the big 4 .... But I have a problem with oxycodones not on contins anymore ... That the government wants to take everyone off them... May I ask why.... With Fentanyl on the streets looking like colored FUDGE.... I mean why are we even bothered with ... I need to go up on my 10 mg hear what I;m saying to 20 mg ... Becuause that's right I'm running out every fucking month .... And what does this deadly drug do for me .. I have no sex drive THANK GOD ... Numbs pain depression anxiety fear every god damn brain thing that has a diagnosis attached to it... It's all bullshit because the Zen's and Oxy's and the Benzo's are the psychoactive cocktail and I am fine no OD no DEA bullshit because that's for fentanyl drug dealers and stupid buyers who die after ONE PILL KILLS ALL ... Look up those 4 words ... You see it there GOOD THAT'S THE PROBLEM ... A DEATH/SUICIDAL PILL SO IF THE GOVERNMENT TRY TO GET MY MD TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM ME THAT:S WHEN WE GO TO THE FENTANTYL AND WE DIE HAPPILY EVER AFTER THE END... KEEP THOSE BASTARDS AWAY FROM US .... THEY ALREADY SPILLED OUT THE ACTIVE INGREDIENT ABOUT 90 PERCENT... IT'S ALL BULLSHIT ... oh im on disability also free money and medical insurance ... AND I'M ALONE WHY WOULD WANT TO HANG WITH ANYONE IN THIS HORRIBLE HUMAN WORLD .... HEAR WHAT IM SAYING
Hello videos I've learned so much I take care of someone that has been diagnosed with schizophrenia he refuses to take his medications but I do in the meat I do Incorporated in the meals is there anything do you believe that Organics I mean vegetables and meat and and everything else all organic will turn around and take away his mental disorder and it is there anything out there in the market that I can buy him for like supplementation thank you very much
Most personality disorders are intentionally induced especially these "odd" or "eccentric" ones like schizoid and schizotypal. Same with autism or neurodivergent diagnosis which has poached some of the people who were previously diagnosed as schizoid and schizotypal.
Define “intentionally induced.” That’s a bold claim if it means what I think it does. But honestly I have a very low degree of certainty that I have understood you correctly.
Yes I got 10 at of 9 said.even with my new found freedom,and knowledge I'm still having problems with my emotions, I can once I feel the emotions start I can put it to bed,it ONLY takes a few moments to kill any relationship.and I got my history to prove it.im 46, and going to be a loner,for the rest of my life.now that I now who I am maybe but that a big maybe.i hope this helps 🐺
People associate this disorder with something you’ve had your whole life a way you’ve always been. It was litteraly caused by drugs for me. It really is just light or latent schizophrenia, kinda just a first episode situation
I have this disorder.. What can i do, to limit my chance of ending up with schizophrenia? I have a close family member who is completely ruined by schizophrenia, and its fucking horrible.. I feel like i cant do anything to help them.. I have been battling the system for over 10 years, and i finally managed to save the persons life, aswell as getting the person a doctors thingy that forces them to get injected with anti psychotic every 14 days.. It helped so much in the beginning, but for some reason, all of the sudden, the anti psychotic stopped working.. its fucking hell going through this.. The person is very close to me.. I cant stand not being able to do anything to help the person.. fuck man.
i have been diagnosed with autism but i also strongly relate to characteristics of stpd. i share both characteristics. i heard you cannot be diagnosed with both but i have also met people who have been diagnosed with both. is it possible that i maybe have stpd and not autism or that people can have both but just not be diagnosed with it?? i hope this made sense.
you can have both. tbh i get kinda annoyed with people saying you absolutely cannot because I have both, just not formally on paper because of those criteria. my therapist and psychiatrist agree that since STPD is a trauma response and ASD going undiagnosed can lead to years of trauma and abuse (esp in my already traumatic for a neurotypical child home) which are perfect conditions for personality disorders to form.
Now im doing my level best to overcome from disociation That's im interested in watching movies and listening songs what the normal peoples will do but those things or works are completely devoid of logic. And then that caused me a mouth breathing little bit. And then this disorder is associated with the anger and burnout signs Can anyone clarrify which episode is this
I mean, are we always supposed to feel joy when everyone else around us is? I just always found that odd that I should feel that same emotion of a group of people around me (I.e. coworkers celebrating another coworker’s accomplishment). I typically just feel neutral or numb in that kind of situation.
I had no response to people being excited and that was always attributed, even by myself, to being shy. Might actually be a social anxiety thing. But then there’s funerals. That one always bothered me and every funeral I attended made me scared that someone would find out there was absolutely nothing in me. My grandpa died on my birthday. We were all with him because it’s just after Christmas. That was terrifying. Felt nothing. I love my grandpa. Got his signature tattooed on my arm. On the bright side, I’ve always hated birthday parties and wishes they wouldn’t celebrate mine. Papa understood, and he had my back one last time. They’ll likely not want to celebrate this year.
No you’re not. No adult feels that way. No one cares about anything but themselves. Now people do try to make the environment more comfortable by being friendly. But honestly other than that there’s no reason to be friendly at all.
I’ve always thought I might have schizotypal personality disorder but haven’t gone to get a diagnosis as yet.I talk to myself a lot and don’t like much social interaction and don’t have many friends either.
I have these but I don’t see how it affects my life negatively. I just think it means I’m weird and I don’t think it makes a difference but then again I probably have Aspergers (yes I know we don’t use that term anymore).
🐉Going to need to talk to someone about the fact of having been diagnosed with schizoaffective (depressed type) and schizotypal plus being on the spectrum if they are not supposed to be co-occuring conditions. Or maybe they are valid as co-occuring because of the DID. . .
DID does complicate diagnosis significantly, but schizotypal PD and ASD can definitely be comorbid. the criteria that they can't is antiquated and doesn't take into account the trauma of being autistic and going undiagnosed and as such not receiving the care and accommodations needed being an autistic child. my therapist and psychiatrist both agree on me having STPD, ASD, and there's a looming DID diagnosis after my DES score
So you can’t be diagnosed with both autism and schizotypal? I’m diagnosed with autism (and I know for sure it isn’t a misdiagnosis) but I relate to all of those things as well. I have delusions and odd beliefs, sometimes I think people are doing things that they aren’t actually doing and I have a lot of magic thinking too. I don’t know what is going on with me
I really have never heard anyone pronounce the word “typal” where it rhymes with nipple. I looked everywhere I could and the accepted pronunciation of the 1st syllable in “typal” is type. Do you have a link to where the correct pronunciation sounds like nipple? 😳
Lucky for me I live in a small town where nobody knows we even have a library and they believe mental health is voodoo. Seriously couldn’t get help til telehealth came her and I went to a psychologist many miles away. Anyway my point is that nobody will remember what it is I’ve got exactly, much less how it’s pronounced. Maybe just don’t say it for a while and the people around you will never remember you ever said it wrong. Of course that is literally a Mandela Effect…please do a Mandela Effect 😊
I dress well, but different I guess although people compliment my style, and I can read people well. Although I have a hard time reading the room when there's nobody with a strong feeling like when their relative died or something else really bad has happened. I have a hard time understanding what's appropriate to say but I'm very careful to not hurt someone. People tell me I'm a very forgiving and kind person but somehow I don't have any friends I hang out with. Most friends I've had haven't kept in contact after school and I'm rarely invited to anything. I have a hard time socialising since I don't know what a normal conversation should be unless they have the same interests as me. I constantly see red flags and even though a person is nice I'm on edge for them to suddenly change and hurt me, which is something I've experienced a lot. I have narcissistic parents and I have fallen victim to narcissistic, psychopaths and borderline people and I never seem to meet someone who doesn't try to manipulate me. If they're not they don't seem interested in having me as a friend. I know I can let down people often since I get into psychosis every third month or so, and I think a darkness is out to get me and it's like a consciousness that affects other people's minds and makes them want to hurt me, so I can't go outside. I have voices in my head every day but sometimes I also hear things outside of my head but it's only small wispers or crying. I have namned the reoccuring voices in my head and sometimes it feels like they influence me to the point that I act out of character. My partner of 16 years, who I got together with when we were 14 and I didn't have these problems yet, says he notice it a lot. He can speak to me and I try to listen but the words doesn't compute in my head. I sometimes doesn't hear what people say at all and I feel like I'm in this kind of muffled bubble of frosted glass. I have to guess what I hear and I have to read shapes in order to see. The reason I'm looking into this disorder is because my doctor says I show signs of schizofrenia but I can often be talked out of my delusions, except sometimes. I don't know what to do or what it is that I'm experiencing, because this disorder sounds a lot like me, except with the odd appearance and not being able to read people's feelings at all. I do have a low interest in socialising but I have a partner and I love him to death and want to spend most of my time with him. I want to have friends but maintaining friendships often exhaust me and it feels like nobody ever understands me or is real. Sometimes I'm wondering if it all is a dream and maybe I'm the nightmare. I can be in my livingroom and it's okay, then I go into the bathroom, and when I come back I feel like the livingroom is off. It looks the same but it feels distorted. I can feel the presence of that dark consciousness but I know it's irrational but my perception doesn't listen to reason. It's always that thought "what if" and often it becomes "it is". My life have basically just been trauma after trauma and I kind of live just day to day, without any plans for the future, because I'm afraid to hope for anything. And whenever the present looks bright, there it comes again, and reality continues to twist and spiral into my fears and yet again show me that my delusions aren't delusions at all, they're facts.
Thank you for sharing, that was insightful and deepening my understanding of the struggles of other people and encouraging others to share and be open about their fears, insecurities and experiences as well 😊 that takes courage
Is schizotypal personality disorder related to schizophrenia the same way cyclothymia relates to bipolar? I wonder because the classification of cyclothymia (as mood disorder vs temperament) has been debated.
I got it. And I gotta question: So I wanna be isolated. You know the old sage/hermit/wizard on the mountain that gives the hero the thing to save the world? I wanna be him. “Yes, yes, I do have the sword of Arthur’s cousin’s bard that can stop the evil serialists from killing Chanticleer, but see that’s a lot of work and I really don’t like any of you people so just take it and leave me alone. I also have Excalibur’s blacksmith’s gloves and I swear to god I’ll strangle you with them and soak them in your blood and stop taking my meds so my hands swell up if they ever even find you…” Metaphor. I had a really bad episode once when my isolation was threatened. I absolutely need a sanctuary. I don’t wanna do therapy if I have to integrate my living space with people. I have adopted 4 cats in my small stone barn with no internal doors designed explicitly to discourage guests. I don’t want to change that part. I live one the edge of the woods and I planted two pin oaks nearby so the woods will overtake my yard and make me invisible to society when I clock out at the end of the day. I am not willing to give that up. Animals like me and they are easy to understand, people not so much.
@@mh6276 have u ever read a book on it ? Tests aren’t always accurate. But for me it was life changing. I no longer belive I’m shizoid or autistic . I feel freed and so much more confident . I’m eneagram 5 intp. I read Beatrice chestnuts books and podcasts from personality hacker. Their heavy stuff but worth it
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Schizotypal person here! I am excited to see Lauren include this in her wonderful content! I think Schizotypal can get to the point where they celebrate their own eccentricity as well as celebrate quirkiness and weirdness in general! It almost feels like life can take on this sort of holy mission-vibe where we are on a stage of chaos versus order or good versus evil, and I think Schizotypal people can either come on a little strong for people who want ever statement to be anchored in their present, pragmatic reality, or they can be very exciting for people eager to escape into their minds by scraping the sky and ruminating everything into oblivion to feel better about their penchant for detachment.
I think it can share that with Schizoid in a way, as though hyper-intellectualizing is either an escape or a way to satisfy some kind of hidden hyper-vigilance that has an OCD-like flavor to it (I have pretty bad OCD, which is comorbid with Schizotypal). If I sound relatable or interesting you might enjoy clicking on me and see this sort of abstract-minded person unload. I used to be a lot less grounded than I am now, so my reasoning is pretty cohesive and I can articulate myself pretty well if the social anxiety isn't overwhelming things. Maybe not everyone experiences that headspace with the Cluster A personality disorders because especially Schizotypal and Schizoid are very likely to be loners attempting to be quasi hermits. Headcase pride! :) Thank you!
thank you for writing this, i really want to come out of my shell more so that i can be happy, and seeing someone else who feels how i do be open about it shamelessly is really inspiring. I went to the psychiatrist after a bpd diagnosis looking for help, and he diagnosed me with this. what i mean by mentioning this is that (part of) the development of what i think is the only thing that needs treatment (bpd) was an attempt to "control" my eccentricity; causing a lot of internal confliction and consistently unavoidable frustration spanning all of how I function. I am not an introverted person, at all, but for so long i was that "quasi hermit," I'm happy to take my life back and live my own way regardless of how others will interpret my "capacity" as a "whole." god i hope that makes sense LOL
@@aseal6412 Oof, amazing, Schizotypal people are always completely spellbinding, no matter the scale of it. You make perfect sense to me. It's a little funny, I have identified as deeply introverted for my whole life, but I have had people look at me like I'm insane when I actually say that I'm an introvert, but the thing is, if I am a headcase-y sort of person who feels averse to most social contexts then "introvert" is a pretty natural label, especially when the whole thing of "getting energy from one's internal world" is basically amped up x100 with Schizotypal.
The social anxiety really is pervasive, maintaining the flow of conversation with neurotypical extroverts is genuinely challenging, and my mind is usually minutes away from becoming a torrent of negative possibilities, so I am choosing to go easy on myself for being a quasi-hermit for now. I am glad you wrote this too because probably people should see that it is indeed a personality disorder, but it hasn't been hard to spot the merits of it too.
@Ash S Thank you so much! I think it's ok to decide to be prideful about it, because like I mentioned in the previous exchange, in my experience Schizotypal people are pretty often minutes away from their minds becoming a torrent of negative possibilities, like some kind of unstoppable force of neuroticism just looming that we need to be on guard for, but, amidst that I have always been able to find clear merits.
Your comment seriously made my day. I love your wisdom. If i could give you a high five i would. Headcase pride :-)
@@cansofswine126 It makes me so excited that we could feel this, and I definitely received your high five! I already know you are outrageously thoughtful, and I love your username (possible Pork Soda reference from Primus, not sure). Headcase pride! :) :)
1. Ideas of reference
2. Odd beliefs or magical thinking
3. Unusual perceptual experiences
4. Odd thinking or speech
5. Suspiciousness or paranoid ideation
6. Inappropriate or constricted affect
8. Lack of close friends and relationships
Literally me
9. Excessive social anxiety
I have all besides the last one I have a lot of freinds but one actually close freind
The thing about the “magical” thinking is that it does indeed get you places. IYKYK
Thank you to the voice in my head telling me to fulfill my destiny. Never would've gotten all my diplomas if you weren't there for me
So a personality disorder is someone that’s not following society standards that’s pretty vague and not fair for being unique to say mental disorder
It has to have a negative effect on your functioning to be a disorder, not just being kind of kooky person
As someone who will never recieve a proper diagnosis, we sure spend a lot of time trying to articulate 1000 different shades of gray.
I heard that everytime someone gets their doctorate they have to come up with a new illness.
@@armsracer8273 It feels like it. Plus if there's 101 dalmations, they can justify 5150 combinations of medications. I got denied MediCare this time around so I'm winging it, and none of this hair-splitting seems beneficial to me.
I’ve gone to counseling on and off for many years
I finally gave up because I was initially diagnosed with severe depression with anxiety yet I’ve been put on antipsychotics and many other types of meds even though my diagnosis remains the same and I’ve never been properly evaluated
@@armsracer8273😮
Everything has a label, even for literal snowflakes
I have schizotypal disorder and we arent represented very much in the media, thank you for making this
Hi, i still don't understand STPD can you please share with me how you experience your life with it. Is it the same as Schizoid?
@@komatsu8169 it is my understanding that schizoid personality doesn’t have *any* social drive and neither desires nor enjoys social relations. Schizotypal is more focused on the magical thinking and odd behavior (with the social discomfort caused by anxiety)
@@itwasamistake5890 thanks for the clarification ❤️!
Phoebe from Friends could have schizotypal disorder
Why would you want it to be? They don’t get it. I’ll stick with my “magical thinking” and enjoy myself away from them lol
I just got diagnosed with this the other day and in true psychiatric nature, the doc just told me that I had schizotypal personality disorder and that was it. There’s not a lot of information or resources out there for this disorder and this video helped me understand it a bit better.
Same here. I’ve been seeking a diagnosis via full evaluation for 12 years. Psychiatrists just said bi-polar. Never believed them. Full psyche eval showed this. Had to see a clinical psychologist to find out.
My sister had many of the symptoms of schizotypal personality disorder, our mom was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and her only child, my nephew, has a severe form of schizoaffective disorder. He does not have the insight that you do, Lauren. It has been a tough road for him.
Thank you for the content and info you provide. 🙋🏻♀️💕
I find the hardest distinction is between ASD and schizotypal.
that's why a lot of practitioners want the barrier removed. they can be co-morbid. PDs are trauma responses + genetics, and autism affects how you perceive the world around you, so that would definitely lead to developing a disordered personality if you were raised in an environment where your needs as an autistic child weren't met, particularly those who go undiagnosed as autistic or misdiagnosed with something else because they tend to be dismissed as just being "overly sensitive" or trying to manipulate people via "temper tantrum" when in reality they're having a meltdown.
What’s ASD?
@Abdul78789
Autism Spectrum Disorder
Then you aren’t very perceptive
Not if you see it in real life! Then you see it very well. The problem is that when you just read the symptoms or hear them, you can interpret them as being the same kind of thing. However, in action, these are VERY different. It is a lot more like what you would imagine a mild schizophrenia would look like than what ASD looks like.
I guess it is kind of like if I described an animal as being about a foot high with pointed ears and sharp teeth. Well, it sounds like a cat, right? But I may also be describing a Miniature Pinscher. Or even a raccoon. And there is a big difference between a cat, a MinPin, and a raccoon in real life! And when you see them, you are pretty sure which is which right away! That is kind of the same way it is with schizotypal and ASD.
Now obviously it could be both and then you are really in for it, but, otherwise, they are very different in what those symptoms are meant to look like. And, yes, that vagueness in the way they write about it is definitely an issue.
thought i was showing schizophrenic symptoms, especially since my brother is schizophrenic, had no idea schizotypal personality disorder was a diagnosis until my therapist said something!
You know, some researchers hypothesize that schizophrenia - an illness that can be horribly debilitating - has been preserved in the gene _primarily because of the benefits that _*_first degree relatives_*_ can have:_ ESPECIALLY schizotypy (doesn’t always mean STPD, can just refer to the traits themselves that haven’t risen to the level of a “personality disorder”).
People with 1st degree relatives who have schizophrenia are much more likely to be high in schizotypy traits; and people high in schizotypy traits tend to be VERY divergent thinking, creative, innovative, and honestly just a breath of fresh air that’s very needed in our world.
Out of curiosity, which hand of yours is dominant? Left, right, ambidextrous (can write with both), or mixed-handed (do some tasks with left hand, some with right)?
@@DannyD-lr5yg i am cross dominant! it’s similar to ambidextrous but it’s like a raffle on which hand wants to do what. or both. i can only do some things with my right, and some with my left, (i draw and eat with my left but play sports and use cups with my right), and some with both. sometimes i will feel more comfortable using one hand, yet the other hand is much more skilled in that area for some reason. i will mention that i’m also neurodivergent on multiple scales (autism, adhd, ptsd, etc) so that can also contribute :)
You would make a wonderful therapist. And a wonderful voice actor for meditation videos and voice actor for audiobooks. Your voice is so calming.
So interesting, I had the majority of these symptoms before experiencing a drug induced psychosis. Great video Lauren 🙏🏻
This was a great video, thank you! They tried to diagnose me with autism but I just didn't quite fit, so I started reading up on things that sometimes is mistaken for autism, and schizotypal showed up. It would be interesting to see a video explaining the similarities and differences between scizotypal and autism because I feel like it's not as obvious as it might seem.
I mean there are practitioners out there who think that the criteria of certain personality disorders not being co-morbid with autism spectrum disorder is hogwash (mine is one of them) since many of them are known to be trauma responses (including, but not limited to, schizotypal personality disorder). if i may ask, what about the autism diagnosis do you think feels wrong?
@@superzooperhaze6597 One of the things is that I don't get special interests. Instead I have a lot of different interests and I can't focus long enough on any of them to learn in-depth about it. Other than that I'm not exactly sure, it's more that I just don't feel like I can relate that much to autistic people I've met or talked with online. Another issue is that I don't feel like autism would explain most of my more serious symptoms. Like the one that drew me to this channel in the first place - I don't actually know if they would be classified as delusions or not, but they are very similar and have nearly gotten me killed several times because I think they are true at that time. I haven't really heard about that in connection to autism, other than the more rigid type where it's like "I want to do this and I don't understand the dangers", but I feel like that comes from a lack of understanding rather than a false belief, possibly? Though I'm not an expert in autism so it could very well be that everything I'm describing sounds like something you'd find within the spectrum.
If you don't mind me asking, how were you diagnosed? did you go to a therapist or a psychiatrist to get diagnosed?
Now im doing my level best to overcome from disociation
That's im interested in watching movies and listening songs what the normal peoples will do but those things or works are completely devoid of logic.
And then that caused me a mouth breathing little bit. And then this disorder is associated with the anger and burnout signs
Will u pls clarify which episode is this
Same.
psychiatry labels anybody that is unhappy with the shit world we live in mad.
basically psychiatry keeps the status quo of inequality
Literally
I am diagnosed schizotypal but have never read into it or cared at all about it. Just randomly had the idea to search it up today.
Same
This is one of the fist videos I’ve seen that hasn’t painted stpd in a negative light. Thank you
Ive been diagnosed w schizoaffective depression but wondered a lot about schizotypal and i'm happy to see you talk about it!
sometimes you know your diagnosis better than your doc because your the only one one who knows what your truly feeling
There's no schizoaffective depression you must mean schizoaffective disorder with bipolar and schizophrenic symptoms
@@midnightblackheart1821 No, the two types of schizoaffective disorder are schizoaffective depressive type (referred to here by me as schizoaffective depression for ease of typing) and schizoaffective bipolar type. They are listed in the DSM-V
Every video basically says the same thing. I wish someone would make a video for someone with this, like including tips for dealing with paranoia, how to respond appropriately when others are sad, how long is appropriate to make eye contact, whethor medication is appropriate or not (anti psychotics), whethor it is ok to enjoy some of these beliefs, how to feel like I'm not in the back seat of my mind
Even tho I am this way it doesn't mean I am mental just different thinking and awake.
Love the vids :)
never been sure about autism diagnosis, this personality disorder fits much bettter, even avoiding odd numbers. the only people i get a long with are men with autism and schizophrenia, i am female.
The only time I "suffer" is when I go through major stressful life changes.. Otherwise this "disorder" is quite pleasant. I am not quite as worried about "regular" things that other people are unless I try to "fit in." I am also autistic.
Topic suggestion: How do non-treated Schiztypal affected people typically deal with one another? Is there a sense of familiarity, or repulsion, or what?
My assumption would be that they would repulse. They are sus of everyone. And another schiztypal person would be the 2nd most suspicious person in the room. Followed by themself. From my time in the hospital there were people I connected with that joined me in my delusions but once they hung out with the people who were my adversaries then I couldn't talk to them anymore.
Thanks!
I have every single one of these traits, except that I’ve had lots and lots of very close relationships and friendships. This is because I know that alot of my behaviors are abnormal and I work around them.
some of this sounds suspiciously like my autism lol 😭 I’d never heard of this disorder, this was very informative :)
Alot of people get it confused with autism even professionals! Plus "magical thinking" probably isn't the most helpful sympthom as anyone can have it which can cause more confusion lol. but if u study the disorder more indepth they have completely different underlying things.
it’s usually seen as a co-habiting disorder, very frequent surprisingly. i’m autistic with schizotypal disorder
the main thing that separated my autism and stpd is the odd interests and intense passion for those interests (special interests), and the fact i have sensory sensitivities and meltdowns.
another thing was the fact that i consistently am convinced people hate me or are plotting against me in some way even when they give me no evidence, and that is very far from autism, and more closely related to schizotypal
Jesus christ, I agree. Sounds too much like me.
Many professionals fail to differentiate autism from schizotypal disorder, and many schizotypals get wrongly diagnosed with autism. Same for schizoids
Out of my mom and aunt's kids I'm the only one who was never screened as a kid. I always knew something was off about me though. I jokingly took a online test for it as a laugh to myself. But my result was schizotypal. When I actually looked it up I was surprised because just about every sign I read and heard from this video I have. I'm gonna keep this to myself because I don't think anyone would believe me if I tried to explain it. Its just nice to know I'm not just an "enigma"
Can you make more videos of how best your family can help you. How they can help you to maintain wellness. Their feelings.
Thank you so much for saying that it is not to be diagnosed along other specific conditions and differences, especially that of depression or autism!
i was just on the stpd reddit now I'm gonna believe this video is meant for me in some mystical way :)
When you are referring to unusual perceptual experiences, does it include extrasensory perceptions?
For Example:
Seeing in your mind, the person standing at your doorstep, before you hear the knock on the door.
Watching an empty paper cup, visualising the person who used it.
Having a life saving premonition ,before an accident is about to happen, feets away from you.
Seeing people's faces as a dynamic construct, not distinct.
Seeing images in your mind, whenever you visualise english text.
Perceiving people's conversation from 200 feet. Without actually hearing it.
I feel this. It can be hard to separate delusions from actual legitimate esp experiences with evidence to support them
What about possession? Or delusional thinking? Does it include mediums? She's good at " parrot fashion" text books.
Think there is a " crossover" between mental health/ skitzotypal and supernatural, but even if you could prove it the psychiatrist wouldn't want to know as it would " play into your delusional thinking" or prove them wrong_ take your pick.
@@moderndead13Doctors don't believe in ESP.
I've believed for a long time that my proper diagnosis should be schizotypal. A therapist ruled out schizotypal without giving me a satisfying reason why. He was one of the three health care providers who over the years have diagnosed me with depression, and that plain & simple is NOT my proper diagnosis because it doesn't take into account a lot of my thoughts and feelings. What bothers me most is that I simply don't fit in socially. The description of schizotypal sounds a lot like me: problems reading social cues and fitting in (what I call baby autism), psychosis that is quite troubling but not overwhelming (baby schizophrenia), and some depression. So, do I have a personality problem rather than an organic, neurotransmitter-type illness? I think so. Looking back at my childhood it's clear how my symptoms could have popped up.
You can't dianose yourself always go to a doctor just because you have symptoms of an illness DOES NOT nessecarily mean you have that illness you can't put a label on everything go to a professional
@@midnightblackheart1821 After being treated by doctors over the years I've concluded that I'm better off treating myself.
I have STPD and this video makes me happy,that more people will knows what STPD is.
Hi, i still don't understand STPD can you please share with me how you experience life with it.
@@komatsu8169 I have been diagnosed with STPD. For my personal experience, I have the usual symptoms of ideas of reference, magical thinking, odd behavior that typically occurs when I start having anxiety. I genuinely believe that some people, if not all people, I’ve encountered aren’t necessarily one person. To elaborate, I believe that I’ve witnessed someone like my mom to have multiple versions as if they have split personalities. It even goes further to where I genuinely believe some people I’ve encountered aren’t actually real and could be some very advanced optical illusion where it’s hard determine the reality of it. I’m a strong believer of ideas of reference. I believe that certain things I see in the media where there just for the sole purpose to ruin my mood as if some entity knows exactly what to put on my feed to ruin my entire day.
Speaking of entity, I believe that there is an entity truly out there that may not have full control but has enough control over my life and my surroundings to make me feel powerless. This is what I believe to be the perpetrator of why I experience what I currently go through since birth. Even worse, I believe that as time passes, it gets closer to truly reveal itself where someday I believe it will pop up out of nowhere to launch its final attack. I’m saying this to find reason behind my late night psychosis that I’ve been experiencing more frequently.
I’d also like to mention I have OCD, so a lot of these so-called delusions I have are ways to fight against this already underlying issue I’ve been having since birth. I hope this helped. I’m sure each person with STPD has a unique experience, so it might be different for someone else with this condition.
Apparently I'm not schizotypal or schizophrenic or anything, I'm just a big brain thinker/questioner of life.
Same
I was diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder but I’m unsure if that diagnosis is correct. When tested for ASD, I scored on the very border. The major points of conflict I have with this diagnosis is I never had developmental delays, I can read facial expressions pretty well. Whatever I do have causes me distress because I don’t see things the same way others do. Tbh I though other people were just stupid but it doesn’t make sense that I would be the one seeing it correctly if everyone else tells me I’m wrong. Either way, I still believe my perceptions are true. Logically speaking, I know I shouldn’t. But I don’t understand other peoples logic.
many practitioners want them to remove the requirement that certain disorders can't be comorbid with personality disorders such as schizotypal because personality disorders are trauma responses + genetics + environment and things like autism spectrum disorder are neurotypes and not "diseases" or illnesses. there's nothing wrong about being autistic. it's just a different type of brain.
Yeah sometimes I get asked of I'm asd spectrum.. but it's just because I find hyper concrete interpretations funny.. and useful for masking
Basically they start talking.. I come up with like ten angles and pick the most cartoonishly asd sounding one to say.. plus I enjoy the wordplay combined with subverting expectations..
This actually has helped.. they are more likely to he comfortable woth me being weird if it's something 'normal' like autism
I really relate to this
You could also do schizoid! Interesting to do the cluster As.
I suffered from these symptoms for 6years but now I m healthy
How did you get healthy ?
Some of the social difficulties have lessened.. and I mask really well.. plus I'm less bothered by my differences. But does that mean I'm better ?
Can you talk about paranoid Personality Disorder and how it is similar/differs from schizophrenia. Love your videos, thank you!!
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I’m so impressed by your ability to say schizotypal personality disorder in all of those sentences in the beginning 🙌🙌🙌🙌🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
I like my Schiz incounters , I connect to everything , TV talks to my thoughts and eyes in clouds show up , I can leave my body in secs.
Huh. My psychiatrist tried to get me screened for schizophrenia SO bad a few years ago even though I am not. I did suffer from a psychosis in my youth. This video helped me revisit that from a different angle, thanks.
As someone who has studied human behavior and all single celled organism behaviors… although correlation does not equal causation the laws of behavior and determinism will provide evidence that “things are connected”.
I was diagnosed over ten years ago, it’s interesting to still be learning more
thank you this is helpful to understanding my diagnosis
Actually we act similar to schizophrenic people but we have no delusions nor psychosis. We just have STRANGE worldview and opinions.
We do have some schizotypals.
I thought the spots on the wall behind you were real on my screen but now that I know that they aren't it's clear I was ideally delusional is that how this works?
I’ve been diagnosed with this and I do act like this but the weird thing is I have a 10 year girlfriend, 3 children and more friends than most.
May I ask your age? I am predicting
I v been diagnosed with this... Thing.. And for some reason I feel so enraged when i learn more about it. Like i m been targeted. Also there's so little info on this disorder online... I m so angry. I think too many things apply to me. I ve been bullied, people say that I m weird all the time, i see shadows, i struggle with depression and anxiety all the time... I m afraid to develop schizophrenia later in life(i m 16 now)
this was depressing to hear. idk if i can heal. i feel like im too far gone
Find a good therapist and go regularly. Speak to family (non-abusive) regularly. Talk to neighbors. Be kind to yourself.
As someone who will never receive a proper diagnosis, I have random stages every few months tryna self diagnose myself but Schizotypal Disorder seems to be the accurate disorder.
Not me with my ADHD & Anxiety history listening to those diagnostic criterias like "that sure sounds like a ton of neurodivergent people" 🤣
So is just depression or what causes self abuse. No other voices, just telling one self that worthless or pointless and no one would even miss us
But potentially do these symptoms carry on even when one is no longer depressed?
I experience this but I do not have a schizophrenic spectrum illness. I become lost in my own head, confuse my partner, jumbled speech, ending up completely confused myself. I have been diagnosed with adhd, ocd with intrusive thoughts and paranoia, and possible bipolar disorder II. I am 44.
Fairies are real. I talk to them, but I don’t believe you have to, nor do I have externalized auditory or visual hallucinations, but internal visual and auditory experiences. I accept others deviation from me.
What am I?
I'd personally consider that magical thinking, from what you've said. What do you mean by internal experiences? Like phantasia (mind's eye/headspace), actually physically feeling things, or in-between?
@@jellifygirl Oh definitely in between. So I know the difference between active generation of fantasy and passive reception of fantastic imagery. The interaction is actually in the realm of internal imaginative vision projected on the external world, but the sensations produced abide in sense memory. For example, I can have an internal mental conversation with one of them, and the clarity of impression is such that the memory of the interaction is like “live streamed” into sense memory, yet I didn’t feel or hear anything physical. For example, you imagine the way your mother speaks and you hear it as a sense memory. For me it is like an invisible hand reaches out to touch your arm, and there is no objective physical sensation, but there are the sensate trails of sensation that are in the sense memory.
Love ya and great video
I've been wondering what the difference is. Great topic, great explanation, another winning video. +1
If I weren't schizophrenic i would be schizotypal. Often I *can* be convinced that my knee-jerk thoughts on paranoid events are wrong but other times I can't and weeks must go by befor being able to be convinced I was mistaken. But on a good day I would say I'm more schizotypal.
Gonna try not to forget
I do not believe in psychotherapy or anything psych ... After graduated high school in 1988 ... And 34 years later I figured all this out without the help of a therapist psychiatrist and psychologist I did this on my own... But from 1989 to about 1999 I was forced by parents so go to these doctors ... The reason because everything in HS revolved around music playing drums in bands and making lots of friends... They all came to me in a sense... Because when HS ended was when I had trouble being completely alone going to a very lonely environment in a community college... So no dormitories just 3 hour classes that bore the hell out of me and I went home and was basically had a friend here and there... One of the biggest issues was with females and relationships and sex... This also tore my mind up and gave me to this day low self esteem.. I went to a psychiatrist and the experience of this was so blasphemy I never took it serious again.. I saw a man by the name Ron Kamm and after 3 to 5 sessions... I had a first experience with a prostitute in my car which I ended up watching her open her door side of my car and spit my cum into the street... And this was a black street hooker with leopard skin spandex pants and then paid 50 dollars for this... This experience really had a choke on me... That when I saw this Psychiatrist I told him about the incident and then to cash in on trying to find something horrendous... And I didn't see this coming ... He was like what did you want to do to this hooker or crap like this... And my response was I want to kill hookers... Now that was just from that experience... And because of this statement and to get back kick back money from 2 different mental institutions he said I can no longer see you as a patient unless you go on my orders to hospital 1 or 2 I chose 1 because 1 was in my state number 2 was out of my state... Now I was about 19 or 20 and just dumb about these people I took them seriously as they acted seriously over dramatically seriously... He then gave me Trilafon which all SSRI's are shit more about that change later... My parents were no help in this situation that made me make the decision and I felt at the time brainwashed by this asshole... No long after I went on his orders to Hampton Hospital for 3 months because of a statement which this place was run by somehow narcissistic author doctor of books ... I started being nervous being thing... I started saying I don't know why I am here... It looked like a pleasant hotel ... But Jesus watching them lock that door and not being able to leave the floor was new to me... And basically cried most of the time I was there.. I felt I made a mistake.... I was being watched based on a statement which they felt I was homicidal ... That was because I was thinking something... Well since then how about this forgot hookers I wouldn't mind humanity just drop dead off the face of the Earth ... Now see that's not going to happen I think about making it happen but I know it's just me being angry at the human race... And feeling like I was a dog with a leash with powerful people of the government and mental health bullshit such as this... So during my stay I got more angry and looked at the world in a different way... And when I was released I went back to the same doctor and he told me that wasn't good enough and should continue to go to a local inpatient programs well they all sucked big ass .... They were run like Cuckoos Nest ... So after about a few months of battling with him in 1991 to now I see a shrink who in the 1990's tried me on like 30 different SSRI's because he had reputation of being a druggist and he was... I was given every new drug that was new and released and was like everytime there's a new so and so and had this huge file cabinet with samples... So that went on a while and THEY ALL SUCKED... 2002 I try Oxycontin and that was the drug that I been taking to deal with my bullshit every since.... Why because the fucking stupid field don';t know how much benefit these drugs can do but because of doctors and criminal activities opioids now have the worse reputation .... Any the point is the diagnosis the hospital gave me was this and depression schizo typical... And the drug my shrink gives me guess well the only one I take ZENZEDI YES I LOVE LOU REED ....
I also am on klonopin and xanax i call them the big 4 .... But I have a problem with oxycodones not on contins anymore ... That the government wants to take everyone off them... May I ask why.... With Fentanyl on the streets looking like colored FUDGE.... I mean why are we even bothered with ... I need to go up on my 10 mg hear what I;m saying to 20 mg ... Becuause that's right I'm running out every fucking month .... And what does this deadly drug do for me .. I have no sex drive THANK GOD ... Numbs pain depression anxiety fear every god damn brain thing that has a diagnosis attached to it... It's all bullshit because the Zen's and Oxy's and the Benzo's are the psychoactive cocktail and I am fine no OD no DEA bullshit because that's for fentanyl drug dealers and stupid buyers who die after ONE PILL KILLS ALL ... Look up those 4 words ... You see it there GOOD THAT'S THE PROBLEM ... A DEATH/SUICIDAL PILL SO IF THE GOVERNMENT TRY TO GET MY MD TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM ME THAT:S WHEN WE GO TO THE FENTANTYL AND WE DIE HAPPILY EVER AFTER THE END... KEEP THOSE BASTARDS AWAY FROM US .... THEY ALREADY SPILLED OUT THE ACTIVE INGREDIENT ABOUT 90 PERCENT... IT'S ALL BULLSHIT ... oh im on disability also free money and medical insurance ... AND I'M ALONE WHY WOULD WANT TO HANG WITH ANYONE IN THIS HORRIBLE HUMAN WORLD .... HEAR WHAT IM SAYING
Hello videos I've learned so much I take care of someone that has been diagnosed with schizophrenia he refuses to take his medications but I do in the meat I do Incorporated in the meals is there anything do you believe that Organics I mean vegetables and meat and and everything else all organic will turn around and take away his mental disorder and it is there anything out there in the market that I can buy him for like supplementation thank you very much
Most personality disorders are intentionally induced especially these "odd" or "eccentric" ones like schizoid and schizotypal. Same with autism or neurodivergent diagnosis which has poached some of the people who were previously diagnosed as schizoid and schizotypal.
Define “intentionally induced.” That’s a bold claim if it means what I think it does. But honestly I have a very low degree of certainty that I have understood you correctly.
So helpful.
Yes I got 10 at of 9 said.even with my new found freedom,and knowledge I'm still having problems with my emotions, I can once I feel the emotions start I can put it to bed,it ONLY takes a few moments to kill any relationship.and I got my history to prove it.im 46, and going to be a loner,for the rest of my life.now that I now who I am maybe but that a big maybe.i hope this helps 🐺
People associate this disorder with something you’ve had your whole life a way you’ve always been. It was litteraly caused by drugs for me. It really is just light or latent schizophrenia, kinda just a first episode situation
love your top :)
I have this disorder.. What can i do, to limit my chance of ending up with schizophrenia? I have a close family member who is completely ruined by schizophrenia, and its fucking horrible.. I feel like i cant do anything to help them.. I have been battling the system for over 10 years, and i finally managed to save the persons life, aswell as getting the person a doctors thingy that forces them to get injected with anti psychotic every 14 days.. It helped so much in the beginning, but for some reason, all of the sudden, the anti psychotic stopped working.. its fucking hell going through this.. The person is very close to me.. I cant stand not being able to do anything to help the person.. fuck man.
i have been diagnosed with autism but i also strongly relate to characteristics of stpd. i share both characteristics. i heard you cannot be diagnosed with both but i have also met people who have been diagnosed with both. is it possible that i maybe have stpd and not autism or that people can have both but just not be diagnosed with it?? i hope this made sense.
you can have both. tbh i get kinda annoyed with people saying you absolutely cannot because I have both, just not formally on paper because of those criteria. my therapist and psychiatrist agree that since STPD is a trauma response and ASD going undiagnosed can lead to years of trauma and abuse (esp in my already traumatic for a neurotypical child home) which are perfect conditions for personality disorders to form.
@@superzooperhaze6597 tysm! i think i'll bring up stpd with my psychologist in the future
@superzooperhaze thanks. You just summed up What it took me over 30 years to peace together.. excluding having asd.
Well my God, I guess I'm fkn bat sh!t crazy I have all of these
Same
If you smoke a bowl and then see green creatures is that schizotypal personal disorder? Or just really good weed?
Now im doing my level best to overcome from disociation
That's im interested in watching movies and listening songs what the normal peoples will do but those things or works are completely devoid of logic.
And then that caused me a mouth breathing little bit. And then this disorder is associated with the anger and burnout signs
Can anyone clarrify which episode is this
I mean, are we always supposed to feel joy when everyone else around us is? I just always found that odd that I should feel that same emotion of a group of people around me (I.e. coworkers celebrating another coworker’s accomplishment). I typically just feel neutral or numb in that kind of situation.
I had no response to people being excited and that was always attributed, even by myself, to being shy. Might actually be a social anxiety thing.
But then there’s funerals. That one always bothered me and every funeral I attended made me scared that someone would find out there was absolutely nothing in me.
My grandpa died on my birthday. We were all with him because it’s just after Christmas. That was terrifying. Felt nothing. I love my grandpa. Got his signature tattooed on my arm.
On the bright side, I’ve always hated birthday parties and wishes they wouldn’t celebrate mine. Papa understood, and he had my back one last time. They’ll likely not want to celebrate this year.
No you’re not. No adult feels that way. No one cares about anything but themselves. Now people do try to make the environment more comfortable by being friendly. But honestly other than that there’s no reason to be friendly at all.
@@yesyoucan7877 you’re a little ridiculous
@@SorenPenrose that’s your argument?
Wow, 3:45 before giving details... Beating around the bush 🙄
Just give it immediately 👍
ive gotten many psychotic episodes, diagnosed with schizo affective, but i tick off all the requirements in this video as symptoms
Because they're all basically cousins of each other but we have to give them 100 different names
I’ve always thought I might have schizotypal personality disorder but haven’t gone to get a diagnosis as yet.I talk to myself a lot and don’t like much social interaction and don’t have many friends either.
How do I get my adult daughter (28) to accept this and to agree to get help? I NEED HELP getting her to understand this
Writing poetry is the only treatment I will take for said illness.
I have these but I don’t see how it affects my life negatively. I just think it means I’m weird and I don’t think it makes a difference but then again I probably have Aspergers (yes I know we don’t use that term anymore).
🐉Going to need to talk to someone about the fact of having been diagnosed with schizoaffective (depressed type) and schizotypal plus being on the spectrum if they are not supposed to be co-occuring conditions.
Or maybe they are valid as co-occuring because of the DID. . .
DID does complicate diagnosis significantly, but schizotypal PD and ASD can definitely be comorbid. the criteria that they can't is antiquated and doesn't take into account the trauma of being autistic and going undiagnosed and as such not receiving the care and accommodations needed being an autistic child. my therapist and psychiatrist both agree on me having STPD, ASD, and there's a looming DID diagnosis after my DES score
So you can’t be diagnosed with both autism and schizotypal? I’m diagnosed with autism (and I know for sure it isn’t a misdiagnosis) but I relate to all of those things as well. I have delusions and odd beliefs, sometimes I think people are doing things that they aren’t actually doing and I have a lot of magic thinking too. I don’t know what is going on with me
I wonder if the Vietnam or WWII era had disorders or whether 東西東西東西以爲表態主席地位鑒定the only started sonce those disorders were discovered.
I really have never heard anyone pronounce the word “typal” where it rhymes with nipple. I looked everywhere I could and the accepted pronunciation of the 1st syllable in “typal” is type.
Do you have a link to where the correct pronunciation sounds like nipple? 😳
Lucky for me I live in a small town where nobody knows we even have a library and they believe mental health is voodoo. Seriously couldn’t get help til telehealth came her and I went to a psychologist many miles away.
Anyway my point is that nobody will remember what it is I’ve got exactly, much less how it’s pronounced. Maybe just don’t say it for a while and the people around you will never remember you ever said it wrong. Of course that is literally a Mandela Effect…please do a Mandela Effect 😊
What are "peculiar beliefs"? Can you be specific?
Good info- advertisements at start too long
Memo: schozytypal mostly seek help for depression or anxiety
How often are those misdiagnosed with schizoaffective disorder vs schizophrenia vs this here??
Never. Couse you gotta have psychosis to have schizoaffective or schizofrenia.
I dress well, but different I guess although people compliment my style, and I can read people well. Although I have a hard time reading the room when there's nobody with a strong feeling like when their relative died or something else really bad has happened. I have a hard time understanding what's appropriate to say but I'm very careful to not hurt someone. People tell me I'm a very forgiving and kind person but somehow I don't have any friends I hang out with. Most friends I've had haven't kept in contact after school and I'm rarely invited to anything. I have a hard time socialising since I don't know what a normal conversation should be unless they have the same interests as me. I constantly see red flags and even though a person is nice I'm on edge for them to suddenly change and hurt me, which is something I've experienced a lot. I have narcissistic parents and I have fallen victim to narcissistic, psychopaths and borderline people and I never seem to meet someone who doesn't try to manipulate me. If they're not they don't seem interested in having me as a friend. I know I can let down people often since I get into psychosis every third month or so, and I think a darkness is out to get me and it's like a consciousness that affects other people's minds and makes them want to hurt me, so I can't go outside. I have voices in my head every day but sometimes I also hear things outside of my head but it's only small wispers or crying. I have namned the reoccuring voices in my head and sometimes it feels like they influence me to the point that I act out of character. My partner of 16 years, who I got together with when we were 14 and I didn't have these problems yet, says he notice it a lot. He can speak to me and I try to listen but the words doesn't compute in my head. I sometimes doesn't hear what people say at all and I feel like I'm in this kind of muffled bubble of frosted glass. I have to guess what I hear and I have to read shapes in order to see. The reason I'm looking into this disorder is because my doctor says I show signs of schizofrenia but I can often be talked out of my delusions, except sometimes. I don't know what to do or what it is that I'm experiencing, because this disorder sounds a lot like me, except with the odd appearance and not being able to read people's feelings at all. I do have a low interest in socialising but I have a partner and I love him to death and want to spend most of my time with him. I want to have friends but maintaining friendships often exhaust me and it feels like nobody ever understands me or is real. Sometimes I'm wondering if it all is a dream and maybe I'm the nightmare. I can be in my livingroom and it's okay, then I go into the bathroom, and when I come back I feel like the livingroom is off. It looks the same but it feels distorted. I can feel the presence of that dark consciousness but I know it's irrational but my perception doesn't listen to reason. It's always that thought "what if" and often it becomes "it is". My life have basically just been trauma after trauma and I kind of live just day to day, without any plans for the future, because I'm afraid to hope for anything. And whenever the present looks bright, there it comes again, and reality continues to twist and spiral into my fears and yet again show me that my delusions aren't delusions at all, they're facts.
Thank you for sharing, that was insightful and deepening my understanding of the struggles of other people and encouraging others to share and be open about their fears, insecurities and experiences as well 😊 that takes courage
How is schizophrenia differ from brain fog and depression ?
Wow judging from the numbers I've seen this about 40,000 times lol
Any other professionally diagnosed women with StPD out here?
Are we related to Rob?
Is schizotypal personality disorder related to schizophrenia the same way cyclothymia relates to bipolar? I wonder because the classification of cyclothymia (as mood disorder vs temperament) has been debated.
Yes to some extend it is a schizophrenia spectrum disorder after all.
I have schizotypal personality disorder. It sucks! 😊
I got it. And I gotta question:
So I wanna be isolated. You know the old sage/hermit/wizard on the mountain that gives the hero the thing to save the world? I wanna be him.
“Yes, yes, I do have the sword of Arthur’s cousin’s bard that can stop the evil serialists from killing Chanticleer, but see that’s a lot of work and I really don’t like any of you people so just take it and leave me alone. I also have Excalibur’s blacksmith’s gloves and I swear to god I’ll strangle you with them and soak them in your blood and stop taking my meds so my hands swell up if they ever even find you…”
Metaphor. I had a really bad episode once when my isolation was threatened. I absolutely need a sanctuary. I don’t wanna do therapy if I have to integrate my living space with people. I have adopted 4 cats in my small stone barn with no internal doors designed explicitly to discourage guests. I don’t want to change that part. I live one the edge of the woods and I planted two pin oaks nearby so the woods will overtake my yard and make me invisible to society when I clock out at the end of the day. I am not willing to give that up. Animals like me and they are easy to understand, people not so much.
i felt something is a bit off from this channel but i cannot pinpoint
What’s ur mbti type and enneagram type have you ever looked into that?
THOSE TESTS SUCK!!!
@@mh6276 have u tried Beatrice chestnut books? Or personality hacker ? If not for these books I’d think I’m dead sick mentally . It was life changer
@@mh6276 have u ever read a book on it ? Tests aren’t always accurate. But for me it was life changing. I no longer belive I’m shizoid or autistic . I feel freed and so much more confident . I’m eneagram 5 intp. I read Beatrice chestnuts books and podcasts from personality hacker. Their heavy stuff but worth it
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This sounds a lot more like autism than schizo
im not described as odd or weird, they call me jeffery dahmer