To sum it all up the fantom is used more on tracks because of its compressed sounds. Not to mention they sound radio ready straight out of the keyboard. The Yamaha sounds good as well but for live events because the sounds are so amplified with eqs so it’s meant to impress right out the keyboard.
@@haroldbrooks4235 True... The Fantom lends itself better to live performance and having some unique desirable features over Montage...while Montage has just a slightly better sound quality, IMO...
You can't go wrong with any of those. I had both Roland Fantom G8 and Motif XS8, they are amazing. For playing live, I prefer Roland Fantom sounds that cut through the Band right out the box and alot of people praised the sound coming from it. When I use Yamaha on the other hands, only a few give comment about it. It seems like Roland did a good job producing the sound engine.
Yamaha had it over the Roland (but only slightly,) up until the point of the Fantasia patch. That is definitely a Roland signature sound! All sounds after that, it becomes even a closer match!
both have their charms! I have a Yamaha Moxf keyboard. I felt like ( and still do ) that it had one of the best sounding saxaphone patches I've heard ever. Pianos sound realistic to me.
Lot of the synth sounds on Roland have a lot of presence and bottom end. Roland has been the king of signature electronic sounds that gave birth to many genres of music from synth pop italdisco to psytrance. Yamaha has always been king of realistic samples and fm sounds. It’s really hard to have only 1 over the other. 😅
I never met a synth I didn't like. They both sound great! You are fortunate to have both! An interesting video comparing sound engines . If I had to pick just one I have to go with the Fantom for work flow and incredible amount of features.
this is fascinating; I won an old Motif, and played an old Fantom on tour; the Yamaha stuff seems more 'hyped', and the Roland stuff seems more 'realistic'... both pretty great...
Both are superb in every way. For me I would use the montage for the studio and the fantom for live work. The slight thinness and forward sounding Roland would project better sound wise in a band situation. But it's down to personal preference as always.
Buying right now I'd pick Fantom, if only for the layout, sequencer, raw power and software upgrade potential. Both sound fantastic, and any sonic differences are not enough to make much of a difference other than side-by-side, in my opinion of course. We all hear and interpret things differently for different reasons.
Hi I own a montage 8 Software upgrades are spectacular Easy to do . I was thinking about the Roland Fantom After this I think I’ll look closer at the Roland Jupiter X .
The sequencer on the Fantom isnt "all that". its a 32 measure clip sequencer. You have to get your head away from linear sequencing. The Fantom is not a workstation. Its a synthesiser. It is offered as a synthesiser. It has polyphony issues due there only being 256 partials available and not 256 note polyphony. Some "tones" have 3 or 4 partials active and throw some reverb in there, it soon starts to clip. Dont get me wrong, I love it but it does let itself down in some areas.
@@Bikerboythousand to a point, though Ive never run into poly issues - I know how it works and manage the resources, but I get your viewpoint. What it DOES do better than anything else available is integrate with other equipment live or in a studio. if you use multiple synths and in particular modules (or indeed lots of VSTs) its by far the better option.
@@paulmapp8306 Do the LED illuminated faders work well for controlling external gear via MIDI CC and/or CV? Those faders are a huge part of the draw for me. And I don't suppose you've tried the 88 key version? Is the hammer action comparable to the RD-2000?
@@rdean150 its the same keybed as the rd, PHA5. Midi cc for some reason is restricted to 95 - you cant assign anything higher which can be a pain, but they do work well
There's something about Yamaha's that makes them ROCK solid. I have both Yamaha and Roland synths. I maintain the Roland Keybeds ALL the time, but the Yamaha synths lives on without a flaw, my oldest Yamaha is 33+ years old now, still rocks without a single keyboard defect. That said - you will be SUPER happy with EITHER of the synths. You can literally create each sound similar on each instrument, they're both wicked advanced, 100's of menues to dive into, you'll be lost for YEARS, I pretty much guarantee you this.
Gracias por el comentario, nunca tuve un teclado tanto tiempo como 33 años. Que teclado es ese que tenés hace tanto . El teclado que tengo más viejo es un Roland RD300gx hace aproximadamente 12 años. Saludos.
Lot of the synth sounds on Roland have a lot of presence and bottom end. Roland has been the king of signature electronic sounds that gave birth to many genres of music from synth pop italdisco to psytrance. Yamaha has always been king of realistic samples and fm sounds. It’s really hard to have only 1 over the other. 😅
Both of them sound exceptional ,this comparison the Roland wins as it is noticeably heavier in the bottom end and a bit brighter in the highs with just a little more character in the mids...excellent comparison video
I agree. Roland always has beefier synth sounds while Yamaha sounds organic and realistic when it comes to acoustic sounds; also the lovely fm sounds. It’s like Ferrari vs Lamborghini. I need both 🤣.
Here's a major difference: The Sequencer - The Fantom cannot transpose the pattern in real time - Montage recognizes real-time chords This changes the workflow a lot - live !
@@ryanpresley7491 yes. I work for a dealer. I don't know about other repair facilities, but the one I work at has good resources and my fellow technicians and I really care about our customers.
Not a keys player by any stretch, but it sounds like the Yamaha wouldn't need much or any post work to fit in a mix, it already stands out. Someone mentioned in the comments that it seems 'hyped'. Maybe that's intentional? However after watching a different video on ease of use, the Roland seems like it would be a breeze to navigate and operate. I'm really appreciating videos like this to help make a decision on which direction to go for a purchase. THANK YOU!
Lot of the synth sounds on Roland have a lot of presence and bottom end. Roland has been the king of signature electronic sounds that gave birth to many genres of music from synth pop italdisco to psytrance. Yamaha has always been king of realistic samples and fm sounds. It’s really hard to have only 1 over the other. 😅
With so much processing power on both keyboard and the quality of the raw materials you’ll be for sure able to make them sound pretty similar to each other. The personal preferences and the sentiment are the most decisive factors when you make your choice.
Really hard to choose because they are both fantastic. You think you've decided and then it changes when another sound is picked. Probably at a push I would take the Montage
There's just something about the Yamaha sounds. Its deep and the tones are rich. I was actually waiting to hear the E. Piano sounds which I know Roland keyboards for but still not as rich as this Yamaha montage.
Lot of the synth sounds on Roland have a lot of presence and bottom end. Roland has been the king of signature electronic sounds that gave birth to many genres of music from synth pop italdisco to psytrance. Yamaha has always been king of realistic samples and fm sounds. It’s really hard to have only 1 over the other. 😅
I pick the Montage, more depth and the Piano's and E Piano's have so much more expression. I programmed over 1000 sounds for the DX7 back in 87'. Noticed your pic with the Moog 55. You program any patches? I am on Arturia's default sounds of the 55.
2 keyboards with two proposals of answers of different frequency, that's my point of view. The Fantom with a more open timbre and the Yamaha a little more closed, maybe with its serious frequency a little above, two excellent instruments.
These "comparison" videos are always useless because no one ever seems to match the output EQ's - so one always sounds brighter, other dull. Sometimes I think the people making these kinds of videos do it on purpose.
Montage tem um peso em seus pianos que; na minha opinião: não inconfundíveis! Muita presença. Quando você ouve, ouve um som cheio, pesado e ao mesmo tempo macio!
They both sound incredibly good! I am trying to put my finger on what the difference between two comes down to, and I think that Fantom seems to have a bit beefier low end. It sounds warmer, fuzzier, and heavier to me. Montage, is crispier, more crystalline punchier, and handles the FM type sounds and piano especially beautifully!
Lot of the synth sounds on Roland have a lot of presence and bottom end. Roland has been the king of signature electronic sounds that gave birth to many genres of music from synth pop italdisco to psytrance. Yamaha has always been king of realistic samples and fm sounds. It’s really hard to have only 1 over the other. 😅
They do sound different with the Montage a little darker on some sounds but I guess it is down to personal preference though I tend to lean to Yamaha but not much between them.
Not only matter of EQ, but also of the reverb, and of the ADSR! And the face!!! There wants somebody to sell a special product. For money some individuals do EVERYTHING!!!
@@openclassics Totally agree, I have Korg Krome, factory sounds are terrible in the major of cases (high-end frequency notes etc that hurts your ears), you have to duplicate and create a new one adjusting the reverb, adding a couple of IFX and adjust ADSR, after that we can start talking! what I don't get is when you mention 'face', what's that?
Lol no. other way around. How can Yamaha be PES when it’s literally the best musical company on Earth? Literally Yamaha does Musical instruments from real to synthesis, vehicles, headphones, speakers. Yamaha is the richest music company on earth. While the rest are competing against themselves.
Really good comparison! So close there's almost nothing in it... if I had to choose, I'd want to see what the UI was like to use and pick based on that. That's how close I found them!
I go off of how good the clean piano sounds are...and Montage is clearly better... But on the other hand, the Fantom has some advanced abilities that the Montage doesn't have...and the Fantom's unique touch screen features are very desirable over the Montage... You really can't lose with either one...
I bought the Fantom 6… at the beginning I thought it sounded thin, but the more I use it the more I like it. It’s has become my favorite synth. I should’ve bought the 88 version. I want that one now… it’s that good.
Piano: Roland Strings: Roland Rhodes: Yamaha Pad: Yamaha Fantasia: Draw (both are good, just different) FM Piano: Roland Pluck Synth: Yamaha Dulcimer: Roland Final result: Roland 4.5 - Yamaha 3.5
El montage tiene un color más oscuro notablemente. Depende de los gusto pero preferiría el fantom que mantiene un equilibrio entre lo oscuro y suave de las frecuencias de sonido
Even as a loyal Roland / Boss owner I have to admit that I prefer the Yamaha here. It sounds more subtle and musical. Roland notes often have a sharp edge.
Yo tuve modx8 y ahora tengo montage 6 y créeme qué hay diferencias de sonido es más completo el montage es más robusto pero claro el precio puede ser muy elevado pero cuando ves la calidad de los materiales y de las teclas sobre todo te convence aparte que el sonido es mejor y tiene más sonidos y opciones
I’ve owned the montage, Kronos, and now the fantom. They all sound so freakin good I have to have all 3. But I’m waiting for the next Kronos. Fantom 88 feels the best obviously so I will get the montage 76 and Kronos 61 at some point
You'll wait a whole lot more for a new kronos. LOL.. As they need a new keybed, new OS, firmware, new chipset, processor.. basically.. EVERYTHING, as all of it was waay outdated long time ago.. I like pa4x, however, that keybed is also VERY bad.. even for synth action.
It is being built actually. Although anyone who knows anything can say so little due to NDA that it's not worth saying anything in the first place. Nothing unusual there. Let's just say If you are 'rich', good. You'll need to be to afford it. In the current world climate expect it to be more expensive than Genos and then some. I was told to set aside upwards of 5 grand (By the UK Korg rep at the time).
What it sounds like... if you want real instruments: Roland fantom... if you want synthy instruments: Yamaha... I would find a place for both... this comaprison leads me to think the fantom is a wiser purchase... then also I feel like the contrast would sit well together
Roland Has poliphonic samples and you can edit all of them, it also has aditional tools, I miss my Fantom-S Workstation, It was the second generation. And was absolutely Awesome. ✌😎
I got a Yamaha MoDX+ because it's the same functionally as the Montage with the same sounds, just no aftertouch, less physical controls, and a plastic enclosure, etc. Although I did watch a lot of videos comparing it to a Roland FA-0. The ModDX+ edged above with sound. Plus two synth engines in one keyboard.
you can't beat the assertiveness of a Montage - great video. And this video doesn't even show all the features of a Montage and what can be done with it. The Fantom is not bad at all, but Yamaha surpassed themself.
They incorporated a lot of stuff in their Fantom. Not on the sound engine but more on the sound design. Montage worked more on the engines and sound gen. Fantom has plenty of options to shape the tone live!
As a Montage owner I have to say I think the Fantom is outshining it on everything but piano though I don't like the Montage piano anyway. My last Fantom was an x6 from 2004. I didn't like it but I'm glad to hear a major improvement (as one would expect after so many years) in the newest fantom. Now I may finally have a viable unit to replace my xp-30 after owning one for 20 years.
I like both. Both have definitely different sounds and who knows about sounds and music in a performance, will notice the quality of sounds. But I would go for the Yamaha.
![Jack Harlow - Hello Miss Johnson [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Q86_nlRoIGw/mqdefault.jpg)
both sounding great!
both soundig definitely different each other.
so... I need both :-)))))
Sure and I need one billion dollars...
@@alexdbf2281 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@marcoballa 🤗😆
I like software with mainstage better! For me, it’s makes this hardware unnecessary, but I can see how they can be of use to others.✌🏾
No talking.. so good 👍
Both very nice. Something subtle about Yamaha that makes me lean that way.
What a great time to be alive. So many choices ... all of them good.
Immagine Mozzart playing these lol.
To sum it all up the fantom is used more on tracks because of its compressed sounds. Not to mention they sound radio ready straight out of the keyboard. The Yamaha sounds good as well but for live events because the sounds are so amplified with eqs so it’s meant to impress right out the keyboard.
Thanks for helping me articulate my thoughts. I love them both but each have their own place in different situations
@@haroldbrooks4235 True... The Fantom lends itself better to live performance and having some unique desirable features over Montage...while Montage has just a slightly better sound quality, IMO...
Great take bro!
You can't go wrong with any of those.
I had both Roland Fantom G8 and Motif XS8, they are amazing.
For playing live, I prefer Roland Fantom sounds that cut through the Band right out the box and alot of people praised the sound coming from it.
When I use Yamaha on the other hands, only a few give comment about it. It seems like Roland did a good job producing the sound engine.
Yamaha had it over the Roland (but only slightly,) up until the point of the Fantasia patch. That is definitely a Roland signature sound! All sounds after that, it becomes even a closer match!
I think in grand pianos yamaha is better
You’re right
both have their charms! I have a Yamaha Moxf keyboard. I felt like ( and still do ) that it had one of the best sounding saxaphone patches I've heard ever. Pianos sound realistic to me.
Lot of the synth sounds on Roland have a lot of presence and bottom end. Roland has been the king of signature electronic sounds that gave birth to many genres of music from synth pop italdisco to psytrance. Yamaha has always been king of realistic samples and fm sounds. It’s really hard to have only 1 over the other. 😅
I never met a synth I didn't like. They both sound great! You are fortunate to have both! An interesting video comparing sound engines . If I had to pick just one I have to go with the Fantom for work flow and incredible amount of features.
yes! the best option is: Montage and Fantom! and yes i'm very lucky ;)
Damn good synthesizers, damn good keyboardist!
this is fascinating; I won an old Motif, and played an old Fantom on tour; the Yamaha stuff seems more 'hyped', and the Roland stuff seems more 'realistic'... both pretty great...
Would you happen to be selling either one? 🤔
Absolutely true!
This is what you get when the piano player is better than the instruments. So good!
I always prefer YAMAHA but fantom sounds amazing here
I like the full sound of the montage, however I also enjoy the electronic sound that the Fantom pads have.
It's hard to choose, they respectively have their own great sounds. I think I just have to get them both! ;) Thank you for the demo.
Both are superb in every way. For me I would use the montage for the studio and the fantom for live work. The slight thinness and forward sounding Roland would project better sound wise in a band situation.
But it's down to personal preference as always.
Buying right now I'd pick Fantom, if only for the layout, sequencer, raw power and software upgrade potential. Both sound fantastic, and any sonic differences are not enough to make much of a difference other than side-by-side, in my opinion of course. We all hear and interpret things differently for different reasons.
Hi
I own a montage 8
Software upgrades are spectacular
Easy to do .
I was thinking about the Roland Fantom
After this I think I’ll look closer at the Roland Jupiter X .
The sequencer on the Fantom isnt "all that". its a 32 measure clip sequencer. You have to get your head away from linear sequencing. The Fantom is not a workstation. Its a synthesiser. It is offered as a synthesiser. It has polyphony issues due there only being 256 partials available and not 256 note polyphony. Some "tones" have 3 or 4 partials active and throw some reverb in there, it soon starts to clip. Dont get me wrong, I love it but it does let itself down in some areas.
@@Bikerboythousand to a point, though Ive never run into poly issues - I know how it works and manage the resources, but I get your viewpoint. What it DOES do better than anything else available is integrate with other equipment live or in a studio. if you use multiple synths and in particular modules (or indeed lots of VSTs) its by far the better option.
@@paulmapp8306 Do the LED illuminated faders work well for controlling external gear via MIDI CC and/or CV? Those faders are a huge part of the draw for me. And I don't suppose you've tried the 88 key version? Is the hammer action comparable to the RD-2000?
@@rdean150 its the same keybed as the rd, PHA5. Midi cc for some reason is restricted to 95 - you cant assign anything higher which can be a pain, but they do work well
There's something about Yamaha's that makes them ROCK solid. I have both Yamaha and Roland synths. I maintain the Roland Keybeds ALL the time, but the Yamaha synths lives on without a flaw, my oldest Yamaha is 33+ years old now, still rocks without a single keyboard defect.
That said - you will be SUPER happy with EITHER of the synths. You can literally create each sound similar on each instrument, they're both wicked advanced, 100's of menues to dive into, you'll be lost for YEARS, I pretty much guarantee you this.
Can say the same about roland that ive had, the x7 had it since release and been gigging with it, its a tank. Hope the fantom is the same!👍
Gracias por el comentario, nunca tuve un teclado tanto tiempo como 33 años. Que teclado es ese que tenés hace tanto . El teclado que tengo más viejo es un Roland RD300gx hace aproximadamente 12 años. Saludos.
@@edgardocasa7535 Hi! The longest I've kept a keyboard is 13 years, it was a Roland D-50.
@@joonglegamer9898 ok, teclado muy popular. Hermoso. Tank you.
Yamaha has created incredible sounds lately, the yamaha has a different magic, both on the syth and rhythm box keyboards.
Fantom daha iyi ya
Lot of the synth sounds on Roland have a lot of presence and bottom end. Roland has been the king of signature electronic sounds that gave birth to many genres of music from synth pop italdisco to psytrance. Yamaha has always been king of realistic samples and fm sounds. It’s really hard to have only 1 over the other. 😅
Both of them sound exceptional ,this comparison the Roland wins as it is noticeably heavier in the bottom end and a bit brighter in the highs with just a little more character in the mids...excellent comparison video
Really? I noticed more lower end on the Yamaha
😂😊
I agree. Roland always has beefier synth sounds while Yamaha sounds organic and realistic when it comes to acoustic sounds; also the lovely fm sounds. It’s like Ferrari vs Lamborghini. I need both 🤣.
@@mrentrepreneur7965 betul👍👍👍
After all, YAMAHA sounds good when FM sound source is inserted.
I use ROLAND as the master keyboard and YAMAHA as the sub.
Here's a major difference: The Sequencer
- The Fantom cannot transpose the pattern in real time
- Montage recognizes real-time chords
This changes the workflow a lot - live !
Not if you dont use a sequencer live lol.
@@paulmapp8306 nice point, same with the keybed, lol.
do u recomend XPS-30 to make covers from The Killers and Coldplay? i'd use strings, piano, pad and synth. Thanks.
perhaps the transposing option will come in a firmware update
As someone who repairs these for a living, I love both. They both are quality instruments.
Do you work for a dealer, or a general electronics repair shop? Am curious to know where to turn if one of my babies decides to go out on me!
@@ryanpresley7491 yes. I work for a dealer. I don't know about other repair facilities, but the one I work at has good resources and my fellow technicians and I really care about our customers.
I like both! They both sound great! I’m a Yamaha fan, tho. But the Roland is no joke!🤨🎶👍🏾
Not a keys player by any stretch, but it sounds like the Yamaha wouldn't need much or any post work to fit in a mix, it already stands out. Someone mentioned in the comments that it seems 'hyped'. Maybe that's intentional? However after watching a different video on ease of use, the Roland seems like it would be a breeze to navigate and operate. I'm really appreciating videos like this to help make a decision on which direction to go for a purchase. THANK YOU!
Os Dois São Maravilhosos!!
Com o Fantom e o Montage no estúdio e um bom editor para EQ, Não precisaria de mais nada!
Com certeza são muito bons
Sou baterista e tecladista se tenho um montage não preciso de mais nada
@@jonatasdasilvapereirajonat1539 Pra mim ja serviria só o Fantom!
@@paulocessna é questão de gosto não gosto dos pianos da Roland acho estralado de mais mas como digo questão de gosto
Samples, sounds programming and superknob of Yamaha, layout, interface and workstation architecture of Roland.
Lot of the synth sounds on Roland have a lot of presence and bottom end. Roland has been the king of signature electronic sounds that gave birth to many genres of music from synth pop italdisco to psytrance. Yamaha has always been king of realistic samples and fm sounds. It’s really hard to have only 1 over the other. 😅
The montage has that reverb pattern which makes it's sound out of this world.
I wish this video would have gone on for hours. So good. So enjoyable. I liked more sounds on Roland. Just by a few … both are great.
With so much processing power on both keyboard and the quality of the raw materials you’ll be for sure able to make them sound pretty similar to each other. The personal preferences and the sentiment are the most decisive factors when you make your choice.
Really hard to choose because they are both fantastic. You think you've decided and then it changes when another sound is picked. Probably at a push I would take the Montage
I like the sounds of the montage when you played acoustic instruments and some pads but I prefer fantom for most of electronic sounds.
yeah the yamaha has a more live feel to it but I like the features on the fantom alot more but I'm a fan of both
There's just something about the Yamaha sounds. Its deep and the tones are rich. I was actually waiting to hear the E. Piano sounds which I know Roland keyboards for but still not as rich as this Yamaha montage.
Lot of the synth sounds on Roland have a lot of presence and bottom end. Roland has been the king of signature electronic sounds that gave birth to many genres of music from synth pop italdisco to psytrance. Yamaha has always been king of realistic samples and fm sounds. It’s really hard to have only 1 over the other. 😅
I pick the Montage, more depth and the Piano's and E Piano's have so much more expression. I programmed over 1000 sounds for the DX7 back in 87'. Noticed your pic with the Moog 55. You program any patches? I am on Arturia's default sounds of the 55.
Unfortunately i’m not an owner of a System 55 😢 so sad 😅 only for the pic, but maybe one day.. 😉
Yes
I like all 80s music and Yamaha’s signature fm and Roland’s signature analog sounds come together in these 2 incredible machines.
2 keyboards with two proposals of answers of different frequency, that's my point of view. The Fantom with a more open timbre and the Yamaha a little more closed, maybe with its serious frequency a little above, two excellent instruments.
Yes... that's it that's the difference...the e.q curve
These "comparison" videos are always useless because no one ever seems to match the output EQ's - so one always sounds brighter, other dull.
Sometimes I think the people making these kinds of videos do it on purpose.
That Roland signature sound is amazing. The presets are amazing.
Fantom sound like a very good sinthesizer, but montage sound like both, a Synth and a very good Sampler
Love the piano on the Fantom but mostly everything else on the Montage, they are both great and you would be good with either one.
Montage tem um peso em seus pianos que; na minha opinião: não inconfundíveis!
Muita presença. Quando você ouve, ouve um som cheio, pesado e ao mesmo tempo macio!
Por isso eu comprei o MONTAGE 8,sem dúvidas muito superior. Você tem que ver as teclas do 8😃. É das galáxias.
Loved the video. As a 40yr air keyboard player, both sounded great.
They both sound incredibly good! I am trying to put my finger on what the difference between two comes down to, and I think that Fantom seems to have a bit beefier low end. It sounds warmer, fuzzier, and heavier to me. Montage, is crispier, more crystalline punchier, and handles the FM type sounds and piano especially beautifully!
Lot of the synth sounds on Roland have a lot of presence and bottom end. Roland has been the king of signature electronic sounds that gave birth to many genres of music from synth pop italdisco to psytrance. Yamaha has always been king of realistic samples and fm sounds. It’s really hard to have only 1 over the other. 😅
Sound- Montage , layout- Fantom
They do sound different with the Montage a little darker on some sounds but I guess it is down to personal preference though I tend to lean to Yamaha but not much between them.
Both are excellent and extremely good so personal preference takes precedence on this
Lovely playing of the Rhodes my friend.
At the montage, yes.
@@godot5082 You can hear the Rhodes sound is definitely a Roland sound these days, because of owning Rhodes
Montage tones is the verry emotional
Roland yields the best synth sounds
YAMAHA
sound on more bass and opened.
For me YAMAHA.... even i am KORG pa4x user😁...but i regonize....yamaha make's most warmer keyboards
They both sound out of this world!
Montage SLAYS.
Both sound brilliant in their own ways, but the Pluck Synth on the Yamaha is better (in my opinion).
PS: I own a Fantom.
It seems that sometimes is just a matter of EQ.
Most of the time especially with the acoustic samples (piano, strings ...)
Not only matter of EQ, but also of the reverb, and of the ADSR! And the face!!!
There wants somebody to sell a special product.
For money some individuals do EVERYTHING!!!
Absolutely! ;)
@@openclassics Totally agree, I have Korg Krome, factory sounds are terrible in the major of cases (high-end frequency notes etc that hurts your ears), you have to duplicate and create a new one adjusting the reverb, adding a couple of IFX and adjust ADSR, after that we can start talking! what I don't get is when you mention 'face', what's that?
remind me what was EQ again
I am fortunate enough to own both of them. They both sound amazing and beautiful in their own way!
Yes! I also have both in my setup! ;)
I am considering getting one of these keyboards. Which one has better piano sounds and sequencer in your opinion?
@@joemiguel6576 if you need a more complete sequencer go with Fantom ;)
@@DKS-SYNTH-LAB Than you
Roland (FIFA) and Yamaha (PES).
Both work on their own. Both are great!
Lol no. other way around. How can Yamaha be PES when it’s literally the best musical company on Earth? Literally Yamaha does Musical instruments from real to synthesis, vehicles, headphones, speakers. Yamaha is the richest music company on earth. While the rest are competing against themselves.
@@tuneunleashed piano phantom
Yamaha FIFA and Roland PES lol. Roland sells 1, Yamaha sells 100 comparision
Really good comparison! So close there's almost nothing in it... if I had to choose, I'd want to see what the UI was like to use and pick based on that. That's how close I found them!
I go off of how good the clean piano sounds are...and Montage is clearly better... But on the other hand, the Fantom has some advanced abilities that the Montage doesn't have...and the Fantom's unique touch screen features are very desirable over the Montage... You really can't lose with either one...
talent and understanding of composition does wonders for selling these keyboards.
Both sounds great I need all of them .
I have both synthesizers. As for me, Montage wins in every respect.
Would the Roland be easier to record tracks than the Montage
I bought the Fantom 6… at the beginning I thought it sounded thin, but the more I use it the more I like it. It’s has become my favorite synth. I should’ve bought the 88 version. I want that one now… it’s that good.
Awesome performance. Great songs. It’s a joy to watch you play music.
Piano: Roland
Strings: Roland
Rhodes: Yamaha
Pad: Yamaha
Fantasia: Draw (both are good, just different)
FM Piano: Roland
Pluck Synth: Yamaha
Dulcimer: Roland
Final result: Roland 4.5 - Yamaha 3.5
Both are very good synthesizers, but I'll stay with YAMAHA!!!
Agree. Both awesome keyboards. I’ll stay with Roland though. 😏
El montage tiene un color más oscuro notablemente. Depende de los gusto pero preferiría el fantom que mantiene un equilibrio entre lo oscuro y suave de las frecuencias de sonido
Nothing can give output like Roland ❤️
Got Kronos myself and triton studio. Both these sound good. Preferably probably Yamaha but splitting hairs here 👍😀
Triton gang! Montage is my dream synth when I master the triton.
Ambos tem sonoridades interessantes e particularidades sonoras aplicáveis a variados gostos e estilos.
Even as a loyal Roland / Boss owner I have to admit that I prefer the Yamaha here. It sounds more subtle and musical. Roland notes often have a sharp edge.
Yes, someone who can really play and not the same cheesy notes that are always played in reviews.
Fantom for me!
Its amazing that the MODX has the same sound engines as the Montage for a lot less
I knew it! it's crazy. I got moxf8
Yo tuve modx8 y ahora tengo montage 6 y créeme qué hay diferencias de sonido es más completo el montage es más robusto pero claro el precio puede ser muy elevado pero cuando ves la calidad de los materiales y de las teclas sobre todo te convence aparte que el sonido es mejor y tiene más sonidos y opciones
I pick the montage by far. Thanks for the comparison
I’ve owned the montage, Kronos, and now the fantom. They all sound so freakin good I have to have all 3. But I’m waiting for the next Kronos. Fantom 88 feels the best obviously so I will get the montage 76 and Kronos 61 at some point
You must be rich..
You'll wait a whole lot more for a new kronos. LOL..
As they need a new keybed, new OS, firmware, new chipset, processor.. basically.. EVERYTHING, as all of it was waay outdated long time ago..
I like pa4x, however, that keybed is also VERY bad.. even for synth action.
Please can i exchange my casio with any of your keyboard I'm tire of it and i need to improve badly
It is being built actually. Although anyone who knows anything can say so little due to NDA that it's not worth saying anything in the first place. Nothing unusual there. Let's just say If you are 'rich', good. You'll need to be to afford it. In the current world climate expect it to be more expensive than Genos and then some. I was told to set aside upwards of 5 grand (By the UK Korg rep at the time).
It's like two different view of the truth,two witness of the same event;both give one vision of what ever you want.
Both are great boards it just depends on what you are willing to spend
Ok for synths both are equally good, but real hero is YOU, great selection and playing, would like to watch you play for hours, great.
Both sound fantastic. I would have to flip a coin to pick one or the other. Really great.
Montage seems to have more attack ..... but they sounds nice !
Both sound good, so I suppose it would come down to which has the most features and then compare price to performance.
Siempre me ha gustado la Yamaha Montage...
Pero aquí viendo la comparación la fantom también está bueno...
Buenas máquinas.... 😉👍🏻
Actually comparing sample libraries 😏...well done to the sound designers 👏
Yamaha definitely beats Roland with FM, that's kinda their thing
What is FM please?
@@HammyGirl999 frequency modulation synthesis. Aka the glassy dx7 electric piano sound you heard on dozens of 80’s records
The MOntage sounds warm and more realistic with strings...all in all i would choose the Yamaha Montage...busty budgeting for a dope workstation
What it sounds like... if you want real instruments: Roland fantom... if you want synthy instruments: Yamaha... I would find a place for both... this comaprison leads me to think the fantom is a wiser purchase... then also I feel like the contrast would sit well together
really also one does some things better than the other and the other does some things better than the other... they should make love
Montage great sounds 👌👍
Roland Has poliphonic samples and you can edit all of them, it also has aditional tools, I miss my Fantom-S Workstation, It was the second generation. And was absolutely Awesome. ✌😎
Yes..i will take one of each.
I like the sound of montage.. its equal and loud in exact volume
I don’t really think one is better than the other I think they both have different characteristics and personalities that make them both sound nice.
Absolutely yes! ;) but probably some people prefer one instead of the other
Montage is deep..win win
Sampling, Yamaha.
Analog modeling, Roland.
Love Roland, but Yamaha sounds wider here
The pads were like night and day.
korg god
Fantom allday everyday
I got a Yamaha MoDX+ because it's the same functionally as the Montage with the same sounds, just no aftertouch, less physical controls, and a plastic enclosure, etc. Although I did watch a lot of videos comparing it to a Roland FA-0. The ModDX+ edged above with sound. Plus two synth engines in one keyboard.
The Yam for me! Trem cleaner,
Deeper overall tones, Roland had some great effects but if I was a Hammond..,
you can't beat the assertiveness of a Montage - great video. And this video doesn't even show all the features of a Montage and what can be done with it. The Fantom is not bad at all, but Yamaha surpassed themself.
They incorporated a lot of stuff in their Fantom. Not on the sound engine but more on the sound design. Montage worked more on the engines and sound gen. Fantom has plenty of options to shape the tone live!
Yeah okay that's like comparing modx same as Montage to a Roland Fantom not possible
As a Montage owner I have to say I think the Fantom is outshining it on everything but piano though I don't like the Montage piano anyway. My last Fantom was an x6 from 2004. I didn't like it but I'm glad to hear a major improvement (as one would expect after so many years) in the newest fantom. Now I may finally have a viable unit to replace my xp-30 after owning one for 20 years.
Take back what I said. Listening with fresh ears I prefer Yamaha Montage on everything.
I like both.
Both have definitely different sounds and who knows about sounds and music in a performance, will notice the quality of sounds.
But I would go for the Yamaha.
I second the camp that looks forward to this video!
Yamaha wins in that comparison, in my opinion.
Thanks for sharing that work.
This is a hard Choice because both sound great