I smurfed in 6k to show the difference
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Really appreciating the fact you play in private lobbies and not smurfing in real ranks
ah no wonder everyone is so polite and non toxic XD
@@ChaoticRain1 sea server is the only toxic place 😂
@@feedbuster3715 You are acting like the russian filled european server isnt toxic at all? Sounds like the good old bias that "my server is the most toxic"
Which means all he's teaching is imaginary and doesn't work in real matches.
@@Jebu911 russian server is less toxic than sea server. I played on both and sea is just the worse
It's funny how mid DK at 28:36 complains to the team "give me some farm!" while chad Abbadon has been farming quietly and efficiently all game (without taking his carry's farm).
also funny that DK complained about not being able to kill Storm without bkb when he didn't even bother to go blink first
Thanks for the content BSJ, this stuff is incredible! The constant proactive + calm thinking is exactly what Dota players need. I assure all you guys out there: 6k players still aren't critical thinking and you CAN get there with a slightly above average amount of skill. Best of luck everyone
Love your videos man please make more
@@Moch117 Planning on it! :)
Wtf we have the same profile pic😂
Love your video too !
Nah sorry i appreciate the motivation but thats bullshit. The average player is around 2k or so. Slightly above that would be 2,5k or so. 6k is already like the top 5% or even less.
Very nice content! Is it possible to also briefly show gold/xp/win probability graphs at the end, although it's a private lobby?
This has been the most exciting video of the smurfing series.
This dk tried his hardest to throw that game, somehow you guys pulled through.
Great content. I’m starting to see how you win tough games like these.
Yeah very impressive / informative. I would have mentally given up at least 3 times during the game, he stays calm and plays greedy + smart.
Poor DK, getting roasted every 5 minutes xD
thanks for the content bsj we would really like more of this educational smurf games thank you
you could show the overall after the match, showing itens and dmg given/taken
really love these educational videos. Teaches me a lot every single time.
It looked like late mid game, BSJ forgot he had meteor hammer; either that or was saving it for something specific
Honestly I lost my hope in Dota community when I saw this DK being kinda salty in a fricking lobby
"surely I have a team" - DK after rage buyback and goes solo into enemy jungle at 30 mins
@@threth5176 well, he made the game feel real
35:55 thats a good tip. ignoring what your teammates are doing, especially when its an unnecessary play.
It's difficult to figure out when to do it, especially since according to lower-ranked teams everything they do is important and they flame you for not joining fights.
Had a guy in Legend deadass tell me to smoke with them at min 14 as a PA that was just finishing a Battlefury, and proceeded to flame me half the game because of it. It was hilarious.
@@xIcarus227 yeah, I feel that. Has happened to me multiple times. I feel like people don't realize the roles of certain carries, obviously PA is a hyper late game carry who needs exorbitant amounts of farm. Good luck getting out of that MMR 🤣
PA without deso cant kill fast and will just feed.
@@Doflaminguard who said anything about PA without deso? and it's not just deso that gives damage, there's also nullifier which can replace it if you need the purge.
@@xIcarus227 lol, I was supplementing your claim for your team wanting to team fight with PA 14 minutes.
Finally another offlane vidéo. Was waiting for it for so long.
Thanks so much bsj.
And a hard game even better
Offlane role is so ignored when it comes to educational dota videos. Only speeed from gameleap makes them consistenly
great video. One thing I struggle with in low MMR is lanes like this where you do not want to trad with carry (ursa, slark). How do you avoid interacting but then also not just letting them free farm?I dont play a lot of offlane but this is a concept i struggle with at low mmr
I think he doesn't mean to not letting them farm, he just let them farm. His team are weaker early game, chances are he has better late game line up with the same networth.
Try to swap lanes when it hits a point where he no longer feels comfortable in the lane. This game he let Mirana take lane because Ursa cant really kill her, and he choose to shove mid.
If your hero has the ability to clear waves behind tower and get out safely do it you make the lane draw instead of losing it completely
Drag the wave
Creep aggro. You see it perfectly in this video, it takes him half a wave before the lane is in front of his tower, and he keeps it there. It's really hard for ursa to try to trade with you if you can simply walk 200 range and be in your own tower range.
Get rid of the mindset "not letting him free farm". If you know you're in a bad matchup, you've already concluded you can't stop him, so trying anyway is just the first step to failure.
lastly, i honestly don't know how you keep the mindset you have throughout entire game...
that's probably the most mind boggling aspect of this entire video... i couldn't do this so
big props to you for having this type of personality, teaching, showing, and doing all in one.
without talking outright shit - just "pointing out little things" lol. man... i hope you aren't
bottling it all in and one day you blow up. stay chill homeslice, never seen you before or
this channel but glad i caught it cuz i needed this very, VERY laid back energy from you.
even though i don't play this game since the days of wc3 RoC and a little in TFT when
my 2s partner wasn't online for ladder or i couldn't find a match in 1v1 ladder.
actually met one of my ex gfs through playing dota on TFT way back in 2006 and she was
amazing. only downside was the distance. she was such a chill chick and it was funny
as hell cuz back then, it was hard to find females that gamed cuz you already know what
would happen (they'd either be swarmed by dudes vying for attention or shittalked to)
or no one would believe them cuz whenever someone said they were a female, most of
the time it was to get carried on the ladder. i remember in ventrilo even i talked shit saying
"nah no way, i don't believe you til i hear it and even then it could be a voice changer."
it was through sharing pics/phone #'s to text and eventually call and then meeting up.
we went to a few shows at a big venue that no longer exists T_T RIP Tremont Music Hall
that was very good realtime thoughts and gameplay. Very educational
4:58 how do you do this agro trick?
Hi BSJ. Which item would you have gone instead of Meteor Hammer if you didnt win the lane?
my guess is just focus on getting radiance so the timing isn't completely ruined by a bad start. pretty sure he was aiming to power spike with dk blink so if he went meteor from a bad lane he wouldn't have been able to
Boots into radiance.
How do you get creeps to aggro without opposing hero in range “aggro trick”?
Yeah we need more video like this
Meteor hammer is the meta now
why in the lobby we cant see their ranks? can explain this to me thanks
What should the enemy have done to close this out
I dont understand how he does the agro trick, can anyone explain?
Im 9.4k and still watch this guy👍
how are your creep healthbars outlined??????????? i dont have those...
just wondering...why u didnt go blademail in this game ?
great stuff would love to see some more offlane work
How to check the team AGV MMR ?
Ya all noted, but what do I do when my 4 picks PL?
How do you know the average mmr of each team?
Down here in the 500 trenches, if I told my mid/carry to buy blink they would've cursed me out then grief farm the rest of the game.
would be nice to see the post game overview
Thank you BSJ for everything.
How would you play as Ursa in this game to win when you are ahead? Thanks for the content
if you're the ursa and your team doesn't stay around him. Ursa needs to build to 100% kill the target he jumps (nulli, abyss etc) and maybe BoTs to stay with his strongest teammates and not let them bleed/feed kills.
When DK bought back that was a huge opening to win the game. All they needed to do was jump DK or Clinkz again.
Around 32 mins there was a clear micommunication on storm/dp jump when their rubick tp'd home to deal with split. Ursa basically threw here. He was too passive and wasn't aware of how strong his team was/didn't need rubick to win the fight.
If ursa was with storm on the clinkz catch, and killed DK; Radiant had no mirana or dawn ult and most likely would've badly lost that fight. Radiant had no glyph so they'd have gotten atleast rax and top t2.
34 mins: Ursa was trying to finally make a play without his team/when Storm was down = couldn't even finish off DK.
35 mins: say you're the ursa and you still fucked up that badly. Now is the time to use your teammates as bait. His team is slowly losing their advantage, he needs to kill someone asap, bait the enemies into a fight outside of their base then jump the priority target/Clinkz. Instead he shows at the top t2 giving radiant space to farm/split. He needed to be with storm and just kill whoever storm sees/jumps on.
Instead you see him try to jump the aba first instead of letting storm catch = big mistake.
38 mins: Ursa tries to frontline instead of letting dp bait or storm jump. Throws the fight and gives enemy more space like a big clown.
40 min fight: Ursa is just.. not with dp or storm, another thrown fight.
Ursa's team finally wins a fight when Ursa is playing with his team and doesn't go in first.
tl;dr: Ursa threw, needed to not go in first/use team as a bait, jump the right targets, get pickoffs and close the game.
Poor awareness and bad decisions in the late game like that is a sign they're not an amazing carry player yet or just really tilted. A good carry player would've played sooo many late game matches out similar to that by now and have a good understanding on what to have been doing that this was pretty much a snoozefest
@@elek323 cmon he didn't threw. it was a team effort on dire's side. they didn't cut off the waves at all on any hero. they kept tping back to base on heroes and got punished because they played vs a 9k mmr player. they also just sat in a group not doing anything, way too much
@@elek323 what rank are u
like BSJ said, Dire should have an earlier Rosh pressure rather than forcing towers
Notice that in the other games BSJ was very focused on just playing, and not coaching his team how to play. He would just do his role and show that if he did it well enough then he wins even if his 3k teammates are playing like 3k players etc.
This game it was completely different. He kept telling his team when not to fight. He told DK what item to go for. Makes me think that in order to win these higher MMR games even BSJ needs to coach his team to play better than they normally would in order to win.
At 24:30 for example he breaks his own rule by telling dawn how to play their hero which is in no relation to how BSJ is playing his hero.
I say this not to flame BSJ, BSJ is awesome, just pointing out how difficult it is to not do these things!
Watching a game with the old map is good.😊
Ever tried using camera grip?
How did it drop a trickster cloak there? 30:32 I've never seen that before.
Should have picked a better meta hero like the DP you went in a previous game. Hard to smurf with a limited hero like Abaddon. In the end, probably doesn't matter due to the MMR difference though.
Nice funny.. and funny how the dk thought that he was so incredibly good all game.
Discord link is expired:/
now we need 10 and 11k players to play with and against bsj
what does he mean by "if you get stuck playing in role queue you're probably lackluster" ?
can u analyze why speeed team lose match yesterday?
bout time we see this build getting light been on this shit
watching other servers seems so polite. Had it been SEAS I was waiting for blame time and pointing out not to steal farm and all with typical "GG" by own team mates.
Is there a button in dota to have your manta illusions attack automatically or something?
It's a setting, auto attack for non hero unit set as always
in one of the vids he explained he uses a bind to change autoattack state depending on the state of the game, i use it to since then
What this average MMR actually means here? Is that four 5k players + 10k BSJ? Or is it average 5.9k players except BSJ?
How can you smurf in 6k, how many k do u have?
Lol that fight at 24 minutes. "B"-bsj
Literally everyone suicides
man... you play really good. impressive. wp
Should have spent at least 1 point in coil just to not let rubick steal the shield, which is hard counter to all radiance heroes
such an intelligent game of dota
blink on ult was so fun :))
I opened video, skipped ahead to a random spot (7:10), watched until 8:16, read title, laughed, closed video.
Ever since I watched fart studio get demolished in dpc I take ur advice w a grain a salt
Die, Spawn, tp mid and dies again immediately.
"I call that space!"
Thank you Ramsey Bolton
I now understand why I have good winrate with lycan...cause I split push so hard.
This is a helpful guide for us.
does the mmr average include bsj mmr, and if not what is bsjs mmr ?
does not, he's 10k
@@zanido9073 9150 yesterday
@@zanido9073 So adjusted for mmr he should be 6700 for the game to be fair and he actually has a 3k mmr difference on these guys ?
@@21leowheeler the point of these games is to show how to play to rank up, i.e. he's acting as if he was currently 6k trying to get to 9k - "this is what you'd need to do"
Honestly if you did that in pub, like how you went to mid and start taking dk’s farm, you be reported or ur mid would just grief on you
i feel greaves is way better for abba you can keep them busy fighting and gives so much space for your carry
and go agha for sustain team fight
must've been annoying playing against this abbadon ahahha
are their names hidden?
i cant join to discord
why the name is all 5??
calling space after feeding mid is 6k for sure
Eish! the ceiling is high, man.
I have like 6000 hours logged and I'm really good at the the things that I do. Yet, at this level people are doing things I've yet to attempt.
Different game entirely.
so the difference between 6k and 9k is way smaller than the same difference between 2k and 5k, cuz a 5k player in 2k avg would solo the game
that DK hurts my eyes so much.
thought this was a stickon blademail game for you tbh
Can someone explain why BSJ didnt buy Halberd? I think it would be good counter for ursa
he built to kill / secure pickoffs. Halberd stalls/control, but doesn't enable pickoff/gank style as well as a hex did late game. Mid-game was playing to force tps/dodging enemy movements to create space for his team / open enemy up to bad fights.
It's definitely a nice item to have against ursa, but looking at the way the early-mid game went, BSJ was talking that it was gonna be impossible to fight the enemy team, so that's the reason he went for radiance+manta so he could split push and avoid teamfights and wait for an opening, and that opening was when they got the ursa at min 38 (in-game clock), 31 (in youtube video).
Halberd against ursa is so bad. Ulti will basically nullify it or BKB.
@@Doflaminguard Halberd's disarm can't be dispelled. And yeah, you can use BKB before going in
@@m1ke896 Ursa ulti will reduce Halberd duration to around 2 seconds instead of 5.
When you first went mid w/ meteor, would it be better to wait till 6 since you were so close?
no. He explains it too when he makes the move.
why does he keep ulting at full hp
why didn't you turn radiance off at 20:20
ok last comment for real, i doubt i'll get a reply on any of them but this is one i do prefer to have a reply:
how high is 6k MMR exactly?
can you or anyone who sees this give me a quick run down of the rankings/divisions/MMR brackets?
so i have an understanding of what it means to be in 6k and still be "smurfing" but you say they're higher than you?
typically in my day, when you smurfed, it was on a new acct with 0 "mmr" or on wc3, it was AMM then "ELL"
AMM= automated match making
reworked t
ELL = estimated ladder level (which spawned ladder abuse and ruined ladder for legit players like myself...
meaning if you won X amount of games without losing, your "ELL" was too high to match anyone else, turning into
hours upon hours long que times)
this is the base of where "ELO" came from and idk what ELO stands for... except rating/mmr.
so many times not using meteor, why?
Why all usernames are 5?
31:34 see what i mean? damn took near 40min to get ONE awesome fight.
that's just brutal man. idk how you've played for this long and willing to keep playing.
i know dota2 brings in probably more in tournaments than any other game in terms
of esports, especially since sc2 shut down an entire server and TONS of tournaments.
seems the gaming career path is coming to an end. which breaks my heart cuz
1) i was too early to get into it at its peak, no support from family = not happening here.
2) now its too late in life and its falling off when its the same half dozen or so winning everything
7:10 you can always look out to use a branch to either block vision or pathway, a good placed branch would have saved him (most likely)
Ursa would just use quelling instantly
@@jakoblarsson5662 not to unblock the cm, the chances of seeing it or thinking about it, let alone ursa prob isnt close enough and would make space to run away... if putting a branch down is just a micro thing then cutting it for your support if u even knew about it is even smaller
I was also thinking about that
its jarring how the gap of these pro players are to a common player.
Is there a particular reason why he didnt meteor hammer the towers in the mid to late game when he was solo pushing with no enemies nearby?
Cuz it takes 2 secs to channel meteor hammer and by that time, he wouldve dealt more damage just hitting the tower. Remember, appying 4 stacks will also increase the attackspeed of other units hitting the tower (aka the creeps and siege)
he said it in the video, he forgot he had it
@@polymerful Just FYI - Curse doesn't increase attack speed of creeps.
@@westcoastricho really? damnit. why valve do that xD. description says "all attacks against them gain an attack speed boost"
@@polymerful Yeh it's not written well. It's only heroes and illusions I believe. Can't remember if it used to affect creeps in the past though.....
bsj how many games you lose to get this one?
Ethical smurfing FTW
Fart team supporter here!
Hey BSJ great series is been very fun to watch, if I could just backsit just a little bit I think you neglected a bit of cutting waves with rad+illu one or another time that would be risk free and very efficient
Good educational content, I suggest you unbind your voice chat hotkey to avoid accidentally using voice comms
its not the same without que ing pub but he prbbly gets banned for it cuz some karen
Nice, amazing and insightful video BSJ. Though it was farming heavy it did carry a bunch of tips to think about
Also discord link broken
Wish you'd carry clarities 😛
offlane playing like safelane
All hail Gremlo God
Bsj is the best dota content creator
Wait so you are pos 1 or 3? :D Kinda dont understand these plays...
Without commentary, BSJ would be reported for griefing mid and queuing wrong role.