1984 - Dystopias and Apocalypses - Extra Sci Fi

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  • Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024

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  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory  5 лет назад +1135

    The idea that Orwell presents us in 1984 is that people subtle enough and brutal enough can take the undirected dissatisfaction and anger of a society and point it at whatever they will, using us to damn ourselves.

    • @AurelioGod
      @AurelioGod 5 лет назад

      Tell me hi

    • @Villanuevac4
      @Villanuevac4 5 лет назад +5

      Extra Sci Fi idea: Command and Conquer Red Alert kind of scenario.

    • @whoadermatespoodlefunk65
      @whoadermatespoodlefunk65 5 лет назад +1

      That twitter joke was absolute trash.

    • @felixschrider9037
      @felixschrider9037 5 лет назад +3

      @@Joshua.Z7 they just did ^^^^^^

    • @ComatHam
      @ComatHam 5 лет назад +5

      @@felixschrider9037 Look at the political landscape at the moment. If you think that this is just happening in other places then you are wrong.

  • @kebabremoveth5257
    @kebabremoveth5257 5 лет назад +1891

    You should also have talked about the manipulation of language. It’s an important part of the ideas Orwell tries to express.

    • @ohalbleib
      @ohalbleib 5 лет назад +41

      I see you there Stalingrad

    • @Argletrough
      @Argletrough 5 лет назад +97

      Not remembering to talk about that would be ungood.

    • @mrspeigle1
      @mrspeigle1 5 лет назад +67

      Definitely part that they missed, and rather important given the way things are going today.

    • @aluisious
      @aluisious 5 лет назад +13

      Human Resources

    • @SwissMappin
      @SwissMappin 5 лет назад +6

      Hello Comrade Stalin

  • @TheFireHawkDelta
    @TheFireHawkDelta 5 лет назад +2007

    "One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power." - my favorite quote from 1984

    • @DiThi
      @DiThi 5 лет назад +73

      Back when I read the book I didn't know Orwell was defending anarchism (the real one, a.k.a. libertarian socialism).
      Too bad I didn't know what anarchism really is until pretty recently. I was taught something that was technically true but was devoid of meaning.

    • @TopsideCrisis346
      @TopsideCrisis346 5 лет назад +27

      That quote is scary relevant to today's political climate. Especially in Seattle.

    • @praetorxian
      @praetorxian 5 лет назад +15

      Sounds like the Democratic Party.

    • @Argacyan
      @Argacyan 5 лет назад +41

      Most people are either sceptical or just don't know the author was ancom or anarcho-socialist because people in politics, mostly rightists and anticommunist centrists, since the release of the book had a tendency to misuse or flat out lie about both the book 1984 and Blair (aka Orwell) himself.

    • @neilcaff
      @neilcaff 5 лет назад +7

      @@TopsideCrisis346 why Seattle particularly?

  • @floorpuncher3280
    @floorpuncher3280 5 лет назад +2368

    I just finished reading a 1984 chapter like 10 seconds ago. Did you install telescreens in my room?

    • @vukhuathuy2866
      @vukhuathuy2866 5 лет назад +50

      Same thing happened to me when they release the Brave New Word episode

    • @MrRingworld
      @MrRingworld 5 лет назад +94

      Remember Big Brother... er Extra Credits is watching you.

    • @seelcudoom1
      @seelcudoom1 5 лет назад +21

      like they said, big brother is watching

    • @Alzzarla
      @Alzzarla 5 лет назад +27

      Big Credits is watching you!

    • @_May_019
      @_May_019 5 лет назад +1

      We read that at the beginning of the school year.

  • @harbingerofsarcasm2510
    @harbingerofsarcasm2510 5 лет назад +1543

    Something I didn't know until recently is that George Orwell is a pen name. In reality his name was Eric Arthur Blair.

    • @toddharig8142
      @toddharig8142 5 лет назад +156

      Supposedly an MI6 Agent was keeping an eye on Orwell when he was writing the book. The agents code name was O'brien. Can't remember where i read this but that one creepy coincidence.

    • @DiracComb.7585
      @DiracComb.7585 5 лет назад +48

      Harbinger of Sarcasm I didn’t even know he was a socialist, so I have much to learn.

    • @lukedufaur5368
      @lukedufaur5368 5 лет назад +121

      @@Feroce He was still a Socialist to his death. He was just frustrated with how most British Communists/Socialists fell in with Stalin's line of thought, particularly after WW2.

    • @nikitakrim02
      @nikitakrim02 5 лет назад +19

      @@lukedufaur5368 he expressed this in "thoughts on nationalism"

    • @DMSProduktions
      @DMSProduktions 5 лет назад +8

      @@lukedufaur5368 He was a 'pox on all your houses' type. Just like me!

  • @TheFuri0uswc
    @TheFuri0uswc 5 лет назад +2321

    *Big Brother would like to know your location*

    • @mcseedat
      @mcseedat 5 лет назад +106

      And access to your speaker, camera, microphone... Microwave.. Micropenis

    • @Ethan-mp7wr
      @Ethan-mp7wr 5 лет назад +15

      Yusuf Seedat
      I’m getting fucked with by big brother :(
      You’ve taken my freedom, my happiness, my everything. Don’t take away my pride.

    • @DiracComb.7585
      @DiracComb.7585 5 лет назад +7

      Ethan Tian Big brother does not care what you want and don’t want. Now get to the Two Minute Hate. We will talk later.

    • @MrMogi-zg2ud
      @MrMogi-zg2ud 5 лет назад +70

      *Big Brother already had your location.*

    • @lemmingrad
      @lemmingrad 5 лет назад +10

      Big Brother just wants to know what Ads to throw at you.

  • @stormydragon2668
    @stormydragon2668 5 лет назад +656

    Subtle detail in 1984 a lot of people overlook: the appendix keeps referring to Ingsoc in the past tense, implying the people did eventually overthrow them.

    • @namkedi
      @namkedi 4 года назад +62

      Stormy Dragon what I’m reading this book and didn't notice omg

    • @callis245
      @callis245 4 года назад +103

      Hey, this makes the whole book seem a lot less depressing.

    • @sadisrmaacy4341
      @sadisrmaacy4341 3 года назад +33

      I mean, also the whole book constantly demonstrates unambiguously that they definitely will with no chance of failure.

    • @theeternalslayer
      @theeternalslayer 3 года назад +7

      The party can torture its citizens into obedience but can't eliminate their humanity and independent thinking, basically the ultimate weapons against authoritarianism.

    • @sergeantscarecrow
      @sergeantscarecrow 2 года назад +22

      @@theeternalslayer You do realize the entire 3rd part of the book is just dedicated how they destroy the human will, one's thinking, and brainwash people to get to love Big Brother, even if they were the staunchest rebel?

  • @shaddonon
    @shaddonon 5 лет назад +709

    Thank you for focusing on the *really* scary stuff in 1984--the mental gymnastics we can inflict on one another (and on ourselves). The surveillance tech is of course very frightening but nothing is scarier than what happens in the very last line of 1984. Being mindful--even just putting yourself in check for a moment--was a great note to end the vid on. Critical thinking is something that *many* people simply do not experience. So take a breath! Be mindful! Be empathetic!

    • @larrychilders6599
      @larrychilders6599 5 лет назад +8

      The sad truth is we are closer and closer to that as we speak. Just look at the Don't Kick Vic movement

    • @luciussvartwulf6630
      @luciussvartwulf6630 5 лет назад +25

      yeah, the part where is said "twitter's terms of service" was waaaaay to accurate.

    • @AntonAdelson
      @AntonAdelson 5 лет назад +9

      To be honest I thought the scariest part was vocabulary changes...

    • @BigKnecht
      @BigKnecht 5 лет назад +8

      >Critical thinking is domething most people don't experience
      But you do big boy, am I right? You smartypants would never be swayed by a dystopian government. Sure thing.
      Saying this tells me you don't understand shit about 1984 or society and humanity at all.

    • @letsseepaulallenscard1140
      @letsseepaulallenscard1140 5 лет назад +18

      @@BigKnecht Don't get your panties in a bunch now

  • @Jinglestv-xz1hu
    @Jinglestv-xz1hu 5 лет назад +94

    One of my favorite things about 1984 is that I have watched dozens of videos, each detailing, in great detail, what Orwell’s central thesis (on what we should avoid) truly is.
    All of them are different, yet somehow, all of them are correct.

  • @adityaraman8901
    @adityaraman8901 5 лет назад +350

    "War is peace
    Freedom is slavery
    Ignorance is strength.”

    • @venompheonix
      @venompheonix 5 лет назад +22

      "Truth is lies
      Hate is love
      Fear is hope"

    • @Ghost_of_Avalon
      @Ghost_of_Avalon 5 лет назад +20

      Strength through unity!
      unity through faith!
      Peace through power!

    • @yeettheheat
      @yeettheheat 4 года назад +7

      Could also be a speech from WH40K

    • @janesullivan692
      @janesullivan692 4 года назад +1

      Truth isn't truth

    • @jacobh9344
      @jacobh9344 3 года назад +10

      “2 + 2 = 5”

  • @DiracComb.7585
    @DiracComb.7585 5 лет назад +449

    I have seen analyses from Overly Sarcastic Productions, and Crash Course Literature, but I have a feeling that I will still learn something new from this channel

    • @LegoCookieDoggie
      @LegoCookieDoggie 5 лет назад +4

      Did you? I did... huh so my philosophy of IDGAF what others think is helping to fight tyranny?

    • @Docwilson91
      @Docwilson91 5 лет назад +1

      I was curious to see who else I watched covered this and you answered my question so thanks kind stranger!

    • @Aracelerii
      @Aracelerii 5 лет назад +1

      I think TED-ED has also looked at 1984

    • @DiracComb.7585
      @DiracComb.7585 5 лет назад +1

      Alexander S. Oh didn’t know they did that. I’ll look into that. Thanks for my next vid.

    • @juancarlosmartinez2876
      @juancarlosmartinez2876 5 лет назад +1

      Alternate History Hub also has a video explaining 1984 from a lore and worldbuilding perspective.

  • @yozen1995
    @yozen1995 5 лет назад +352

    5:00 Always important to remember in the appendix
    "Newspeak **was** the national language of Oceania"
    Ingsoc fails.

    • @harbl99
      @harbl99 5 лет назад +126

      Well, that wasn't real IngSoc then. Real IngSoc has never been tried.

    • @vikramvalame9990
      @vikramvalame9990 5 лет назад +58

      Of course, after the traitor Goldstein twisted the language to his nefarious ends, Big Brother's infinite wisdom lead to the creation of a new language: English.

    • @theblueknight9746
      @theblueknight9746 5 лет назад +88

      @@vikramvalame9990 Indeed; oldspeak is plus ungood and doubleplus ungoodthinkful. Mans who duckquack blackwhite oldthinkful oldspeak unbellyfeel ingsoc, and must be unpersoned. [Edit: this is actually a grammatically correct and understandable sentence in Newspeak.]

    • @will1603
      @will1603 5 лет назад +7

      @@harbl99 you what?

    • @nebojsag.5871
      @nebojsag.5871 5 лет назад +3

      No that's just how the English language works.

  • @frankharr9466
    @frankharr9466 5 лет назад +25

    That book messed with my head for months after I'd finished reading it.
    My brother once, for reasons that are not important, decided that he was going to write a paper finding the humor in 1984. He decided that it was, in part, a really bad British boys' school.

  • @discordingstichery6830
    @discordingstichery6830 5 лет назад +844

    I think twitter should be called the two minutes of hate

    • @DiThi
      @DiThi 5 лет назад +123

      Or 280 characters of hate.

    • @dookie_12
      @dookie_12 5 лет назад +17

      More like two terms hate

    • @ServantofÄzrael
      @ServantofÄzrael 5 лет назад +9

      More like the two eons of hate

    • @Rareknightking
      @Rareknightking 5 лет назад +6

      discordingStichery it’s why I no longer use Twitter.

    • @christopherg2347
      @christopherg2347 5 лет назад +5

      So, the inverse of 15 minutes of fame?

  • @rileyknapp5318
    @rileyknapp5318 5 лет назад +131

    Honestly kinda surprised you didn't go into doublethink further. Still really like this though

    • @Big5ocks
      @Big5ocks 5 лет назад +4

      Riley Knapp there is so much to talk about in 1984. It’s one of my favourite dystopian novels and my favourite from Orwell. This should have been at least an hour long!

  • @seanmurphy3430
    @seanmurphy3430 5 лет назад +280

    I was gonna say, if you think taking 2 minutes out of your day to yell at out-of-context clips of someone you're told you should be mad at is absurd, you clearly have never used the internet. Or, for that matter, watched cable news.

    • @Newportal1
      @Newportal1 5 лет назад +12

      Or even read certain newspapers. It's like they know what makes us angry and pushes those buttons. Just like anybody with a paint program. THEY'LL DRAW PENISES! Why? Because it's shocking and gets an immature giggle.

    • @danilooliveira6580
      @danilooliveira6580 5 лет назад +10

      that is true. however, we live in a world where we have the right to not take anything at face value, you can laugh at a comedian talking about politics, but you don't need to believe in everything he says. and that is the important distinction here, the line is only crossed when a power starts to decide for you what is true and what is not. 1984 only takes that to the extreme, where the government not only controls what is the truth, but also controls how you should feel. and if you don't believe or you don't feel what you are supposed to, then you are a enemy of the state and the people.

    • @EmperorFool
      @EmperorFool 5 лет назад +5

      Only today it's 200 minutes hate.

    • @AustroHungarianEmpire1867
      @AustroHungarianEmpire1867 5 месяцев назад

      ​​@@danilooliveira6580Indeed, in our current world, we still have a choice. We still have our own conscious minds.

  • @Charon85Onozuka
    @Charon85Onozuka 5 лет назад +23

    I still remember way back when I read 1984 that the final words of the book were some of the most chilling I have ever experienced.

    • @FireCoolerThenYou
      @FireCoolerThenYou 4 месяца назад

      "He had won the war over himself. He loved Big Brother"

  • @1897_lmb_
    @1897_lmb_ 5 лет назад +110

    1949: In 1984 there will be dictatorship
    1984: TAKEEEEE ONNN MEEEEEEEEEEE!

    • @Merennulli
      @Merennulli 4 года назад +12

      2002: Ok, they think that darn book was an overreaction. Time to get to work.
      (Just realized someone will probably think this is a typo for 2020. 2002 was when a lot of the "big brother" style laws enabling government overreach and undermining civil liberties in the name of security began to take root with the fervor of the "War on Terror".)

    • @stevepig4187
      @stevepig4187 4 года назад +3

      @@Merennulli *2020
      edit: OOOOOOOOOOH nvm im so stupid.

    • @nono_Hoi4
      @nono_Hoi4 4 года назад

      biggest and longest rick roll

  • @blake-81
    @blake-81 5 лет назад +143

    As someone raised on (and having fled from) a Communist Totalitarian Dictatorship, reading Orwell's books (which, btw, were banned on my country) always felt terrifyingly close to home; how I could draw parallels between things I knew, experienced myself, and even participated on, and how a lot of events in real life took place just as he said they would take. A lot of what Orwell pictured happens for real (although on a much more low-key level) back there....

    • @lkzhang820
      @lkzhang820 5 лет назад +2

      Are you talking about DPRK?

    • @joffreybaratheon4904
      @joffreybaratheon4904 4 года назад +10

      I was born in the USSR, 1984 was like a Tuesday in my homeland.

    • @fireinthehole1986
      @fireinthehole1986 4 года назад +3

      Blake 81, which country do you come from anyway?

    • @plankalkulcompiler9468
      @plankalkulcompiler9468 4 года назад +4

      @@joffreybaratheon4904 yeah, sure. 1984 is the present-day capitalism.

    • @logankrohn1472
      @logankrohn1472 4 года назад +1

      Georgian Laborer
      Why capitalism?

  • @Gala-yp8nx
    @Gala-yp8nx 5 лет назад +156

    This video was double plus good.

  • @Jodonho
    @Jodonho 5 лет назад +296

    Only two minutes of hate?
    Sovereign citizens can do better than that.

    • @braith117
      @braith117 5 лет назад +8

      They're quite an amusing bunch. Not the brightest, but still amusing.

    • @candiduscorvus
      @candiduscorvus 5 лет назад +15

      Antifa puts sovereign citizens to shame.

    • @Sinyao
      @Sinyao 5 лет назад +25

      Ahh, there we go. There's always someone who calls the group who is literally anti fascist the fascists.

    • @2312uri
      @2312uri 5 лет назад +3

      Twitter: those are rockie numbers

    • @adriannaranjo4397
      @adriannaranjo4397 5 лет назад +2

      "I DO NOT CONSENT TO BEING ARRESTED"

  • @Whitechai
    @Whitechai 2 года назад +35

    1984 and Animal farm is one of the "higher reading" novels that I actually finished. It was very interesting.

  • @abcdef27669
    @abcdef27669 5 лет назад +468

    H.P Lovecraft: "My stories are the scariest in the history of the english language literature! No one can make something terrorizing like me!"
    George Orwell: "Hold my tea. Now you gonna see what is really scary and horrifying..."

    • @Nyghtking
      @Nyghtking 5 лет назад +84

      Lovecraft made that which we don't know and can't know horrifying, Orwell made that which we know vary well horrifying.

    • @danielsjohnson
      @danielsjohnson 5 лет назад +14

      Jumpscares or disgusting gore can be scary but the even scarier stuff is psychological horror. Stuff that is a scary idea instead of a scary visual thing.

    • @James-ep2bx
      @James-ep2bx 5 лет назад +16

      Humanity is an eldrich monster of it's own sometimes, after all which is more frightening that which can't be understood, or the mind capable of wrestling with, and spreading, such a concept?

    • @harbl99
      @harbl99 5 лет назад +28

      "You want to hear a scary bedtime story do you? Okay. Here goes. 'People can justify any atrocity their own side commit as a good and necessary thing. The end.' Nighty-night."

    • @cobramcjingleballs
      @cobramcjingleballs 5 лет назад +3

      Eh, bad portrayal of Lovecraft who is famous now because only he got other authors to collaborate and expand on his universe and often praised them for their stories.

  • @bigbrother1736
    @bigbrother1736 5 лет назад +411

    Hello, I am watching you

    • @everydaygeek8715
      @everydaygeek8715 5 лет назад +7

      Hey! I'm in the shower!

    • @GrandGunman
      @GrandGunman 5 лет назад +8

      Big Brother does this mean I need to put on pants?

    • @DiracComb.7585
      @DiracComb.7585 5 лет назад +4

      Big Brother STRANGER DANGER. STRANGER DANGER!!!

    • @deanspanos8210
      @deanspanos8210 5 лет назад +1

      I had a feeling you were watching me. And I have no privacy.

    • @toddharig8142
      @toddharig8142 5 лет назад +3

      Oh shit, turns out big brother does exist after all!

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 5 лет назад +308

    1984, the year Los Angeles hosted the Summer Olympics for the second time, the Soviet bloc boycotted, and the US won a lot of medals which led to an awful promotion by McDonald's

    • @seatspud
      @seatspud 5 лет назад +17

      Notoriously lampooned in the Simpsons.
      Free Krustyburger anyone?

    • @Erika-gn1tv
      @Erika-gn1tv 5 лет назад +1

      True horror of the Cold War right there.

    • @androzani
      @androzani 5 лет назад

      I'm gonna spit in the 1,000,000th free burger.

    • @Dalinar.Kholin
      @Dalinar.Kholin 5 лет назад

      @truthful Sin Are Khalistani separatists true Sikhs? Indian Sikhs don't think so.
      Or are you talking about the Congress-Sikh riots in the aftermath of Indira Gandhi's assassination?

    • @isaiahscobel
      @isaiahscobel 11 месяцев назад

      ????????????????
      Dafuq dis do with india?????????

  • @silent_ranger8626
    @silent_ranger8626 5 лет назад +6

    1984 was a book I was recommended by a teacher and one of the best I’ve read so far

  • @TheOneTrueAnthemis
    @TheOneTrueAnthemis 5 лет назад +59

    Opening with one of the most terrifying quotes in literature ever.
    That's the video essay version of T-posing to establish dominance

  • @zuckduck4335
    @zuckduck4335 5 лет назад +17

    2:36
    Oh shit the totalitarian leadership is headed by Walpole? My god his craftyness spreads throughout time and space!

  • @chickensforthechickengod9337
    @chickensforthechickengod9337 5 лет назад +7

    One thing to remember is that when at the end of the book the narrator describes the newspeak of ingsoc he uses the past tense.

  • @tyrreloneal5178
    @tyrreloneal5178 4 года назад +26

    It's terrifying how relevant this book is today!

  • @gelgamath_9903
    @gelgamath_9903 5 лет назад +13

    This is the only book I ever read that truly scared me.

  • @JustinKoenigSilica
    @JustinKoenigSilica 5 лет назад +4

    The most dystopian thing is that I haven't seen ANY OF your uploads in the last 3-5 MONTHS in my subbox

    • @ronelm2000
      @ronelm2000 5 лет назад

      click on the noti bell wtf

  • @jkostelo
    @jkostelo 5 лет назад +79

    Orwell was a socialist, who ended up hating other socialists.
    He explores this in the road to Wigan Pier.
    I find 1984 to be a warning against extreme political leanings in any direction. It's hard to tell if Oceania was once a fascist country or was socialist, before becoming totalitarian.

    • @chicoravelli5703
      @chicoravelli5703 2 года назад +5

      Exactly!

    • @Anarcho_Insurrection
      @Anarcho_Insurrection Год назад +1

      He was an anarchist

    • @guyferrari8124
      @guyferrari8124 Год назад +3

      @@Anarcho_Insurrection not really, he’s pretty clearly against meaningless war and violent chaos

    • @TheRealNintendoKid
      @TheRealNintendoKid Год назад +2

      "hard to tell?" I think "ingsoc" makes it pretty fuckin clear.

    • @hjuy4049
      @hjuy4049 Год назад +2

      ​@@TheRealNintendoKid yeah, believe what the party calls itself to be what it was in reality, very analytic

  • @ItsmeInternetStranger
    @ItsmeInternetStranger 5 лет назад +76

    The crux of 1984 I think is social pressure. To be the only one not frothing with anger at the things you're told to be angry about is to be an outcast, in a society where outcasts are ripped to pieces. You say things you don't believe, do things you don't want to do, just to assure everyone else that you're the same as them and to avoid unnecessary trouble. It's when we turn on each other and stop allowing for the reasonable understanding of other thoughts and opinions that we truly fall down the rabbit hole.
    Thankfully, nothing like that is happening today. We totally understand and respect viewpoints different from our own, and never go along with a group just to avoid being targets of that group. Right? ...Right?

    • @PuppetMasteronVHS
      @PuppetMasteronVHS 5 лет назад +8

      Left

    • @KZ-xt4hl
      @KZ-xt4hl 5 лет назад +14

      @@PuppetMasteronVHS Missing the entire fucking point

    • @thomasduplessis3568
      @thomasduplessis3568 5 лет назад +3

      @@KZ-xt4hl nope. One of the few getting the point.

    • @will1603
      @will1603 5 лет назад +5

      @@thomasduplessis3568 ahh so you're not just completely discounting another group, representing them as an other, an enemy right? I really think we need to remember that we are just alive, on this planet. Helping each other until we eventually die Haha. We all want the same things really

    • @thomasduplessis3568
      @thomasduplessis3568 5 лет назад +10

      @@will1603 No I haven't discounted anyone as an enemy. I'm saying that the left (to a greater degree in frequency and intensity than the right), is trying to work people up. Outrage culture, and cancel culture, for example, has been denounced by a fair majority of the right, while a significant majority of the left embrace these things as necessary. There obviously are exceptions, but generally speaking this is true.
      Social Justice, by definition, vilifies individuals who do not adhere to social norms and ideas. That is what 1984 is all about. Vilifying people, not for breaking actual laws, but for committing "wrongthink".

  • @adriannaranjo4397
    @adriannaranjo4397 5 лет назад +82

    Respect to EC for calling out the hatemobs by the blue checkmarks on Twitter

  • @Robin4
    @Robin4 5 лет назад +5

    My favorite passage in the book, the love note in the hallway, my God i have never had such a thrill while reading

  • @MrTomtomtest
    @MrTomtomtest 5 лет назад +34

    1984 needs to be put in every school curriculum.

    • @ReddoMao
      @ReddoMao 5 лет назад +5

      Needs to be but wont be because academia pushes this kind of indoctrination

    • @WinterWitch01
      @WinterWitch01 5 лет назад +5

      With Betsy's DeVos as secretary of education? Not going to happen.

    • @kenyaholloway-reliford8213
      @kenyaholloway-reliford8213 10 месяцев назад +1

      I actually read it in 11th grade

  • @theodoty8989
    @theodoty8989 5 лет назад +12

    Brilliant end to the video, we are so caught up in fitting in to groups that often we forget to think for ourselves

  • @StarFoxHeroSJ
    @StarFoxHeroSJ 5 лет назад +162

    The really scary part in regards to modern politics is whatever your political viewpoint, you thought of the other side of the political spectrum while you were listening to this.

    • @cowmaneater1243
      @cowmaneater1243 5 лет назад +8

      I was about to say exactly this.

    • @nekomatafuyu
      @nekomatafuyu 5 лет назад +19

      Or both sides...

    • @latlatko
      @latlatko 5 лет назад +13

      isn't authoritarianism it's own side of the spectrum? or am i misremembering.

    • @c14n_
      @c14n_ 5 лет назад +10

      @@latlatko That is one axis of political ideology, yes.

    • @anarchisttechsupport6644
      @anarchisttechsupport6644 5 лет назад +21

      @@Antidragon-nl7by here's the thing about radical tolerance: must we tolerate intolerance? Doesn't that just give the unacceptable a home in our own tolerant discourse?
      I was there for Charlottesville when the Fascists descended. AMA.

  • @harbl99
    @harbl99 5 лет назад +59

    2:40 -- "Britain a totalitarian state with cameras in every home and neighbour primed to turn on neighbour."
    This is just fodder for my 'Orwell was a time traveller' thesis. (and, yes officer, I have a loicense for that opinion.)

  • @AzureIV
    @AzureIV 5 лет назад +92

    "Beware the alien, the heretic, and the mutant."

    • @ArkadiBolschek
      @ArkadiBolschek 5 лет назад +21

      Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.

    • @RyoKasai25
      @RyoKasai25 5 лет назад +12

      BURN THE HERETIC, SUFFER NOT THE ALIEN TO LIVE.

    • @ShankarSivarajan
      @ShankarSivarajan 5 лет назад +5

      Burn the heretic! Kill the mutant! Purge the unclean!

    • @chickenman77
      @chickenman77 5 лет назад +18

      "An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded"

    • @wert1234576
      @wert1234576 4 года назад +1

      "Listen with your EMPEROR given ears to listen with any thing else is HERASY" -vox speaker

  • @itaybron
    @itaybron 5 лет назад +68

    Good thing our world is nothing like thst - nervous laughter -

    • @RedRabbitEntertainment
      @RedRabbitEntertainment 5 лет назад +3

      NSA Agent: Haha, yeah

    • @YAH2121
      @YAH2121 5 лет назад +6

      *Meanwhile in China*

    • @VeryProPlayerYesSir1122
      @VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 5 лет назад +3

      @@YAH2121 China: "thank god we have 1984 as guide book. Nothing happened in Tiananmen Square 1989. Now, keep kissing my ass to access my market."

    • @cgt3704
      @cgt3704 5 лет назад +1

      @@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 i think you mean north korea. North korea =Oceania

  • @sergy4865
    @sergy4865 5 лет назад +40

    The scary part to me is that people who support wannabe dictators often compare their opponents to big brother. Projection at its worst.

  • @KelsomaticPDX
    @KelsomaticPDX 5 лет назад +1

    This is such a fantastic distillation of everything great about 1984. Well done.

  • @TamaChien
    @TamaChien 5 лет назад +3

    I didn't realize that last bit about redirecting hate was so close in modern society until now

  • @Ashathefree8
    @Ashathefree8 5 лет назад

    This series is why Tuesday is my favorite day of the week!

  • @hh-ck6ko
    @hh-ck6ko 5 лет назад +62

    Oh look, it's just like my political opponent. Certainly not me, i'm the good one. I don't even remember when my group did anything wrong. And even if that did happen, they were traitors undermining us.

    • @androzani
      @androzani 5 лет назад +1

      Yea, what he said.

    • @centurion209
      @centurion209 4 года назад

      Or the Party was different before, we are no longer like that ... there was a switch.

  • @andrespolo2722
    @andrespolo2722 5 лет назад +13

    ¿Why didn't mention the danger of the newspeak?
    TED EF made a video about that.

    • @michaellewis1545
      @michaellewis1545 5 лет назад +2

      There is only so much they can cover is video less than 8 minutes long.

  • @AnOptimisticNihilist
    @AnOptimisticNihilist 3 года назад +10

    One of my favorite theories about this book is that Oceania, Eurasia, Eastasia and all that never actually happened, but that unfair only exists in Great Britain, with everyone none the wiser.

    • @leozafirov8209
      @leozafirov8209 3 года назад +3

      My favorite theory is that Oceania, Eurasia, and east Asia exist, but are ruled by all the same people and government, but they mock "fight" each other as to keep the people demoralized, yet believing that by obeying the government they are helping the "war" effort

  • @MikaelKKarlsson
    @MikaelKKarlsson 5 лет назад +11

    Who else was worried about the surveillance state back in 1984?
    We were sweet summer children.

  • @RudyG01
    @RudyG01 5 лет назад +13

    The video is superb as always but there is a slight error here. George Orwell mentioned that the Party workers of INGSOC wore blue overalls. That's hasn't been shown here. Though a superb video nonetheless.

  • @MeganKoumori
    @MeganKoumori 8 месяцев назад +2

    One of my projects in university was to choose a book, read it, write an introductory essay that could be pasted in the front, and it would be donated to the library. At first I was going to pick "Animal Farm", but it was 2016 and suddenly "1984" seemed much more relevant.

  • @unitednations774
    @unitednations774 5 лет назад +62

    A person who is responsible for every single mistake in history and is the leader of tolitarian states.
    Walpole: Oh, I know him, he’s me.

  • @LucavlogsandgamingOFFICIAL
    @LucavlogsandgamingOFFICIAL 4 года назад +1

    Orwell, is honestly a great author, animal farm and 1984 are my favourite sci fi

  • @notlad900
    @notlad900 5 лет назад +14

    Blind hate and anger leads to the dark side

    • @pomeranianproductions647
      @pomeranianproductions647 5 лет назад

      Hate leads to anger... anger leads to hate... hate leads to suffering... suffering leads to the dark side...

  • @ryanhowser5908
    @ryanhowser5908 5 лет назад +44

    So are we going to mention Orwell and his personal life and not reveal George Orwell was a pen name? His actual name was Eric Blair.

    • @arubinojr5670
      @arubinojr5670 5 лет назад +3

      Spoilers.

    • @harbl99
      @harbl99 5 лет назад +3

      Ackshually that was his government name. Not his _real_ name.

  • @thevorpalsword
    @thevorpalsword 5 лет назад +7

    Can you guys please cover "I have no mouth and I must scream?"

  • @charlesbordyiii1154
    @charlesbordyiii1154 5 лет назад +1

    In a perfect world, you guys would be the #1 content creators on youtube. Oh well. Y'all are #1 to me.

  • @fischure8480
    @fischure8480 2 года назад +5

    As someone who regularly uses Twitter, that last Twitter TOS reference hits a lot more close to home than you'd think (especially in the anime community)

  • @shawnheatherly
    @shawnheatherly 5 лет назад +1

    A wonderful highlight to some of 1984's best aspects.

  • @jozopako
    @jozopako 5 лет назад +3

    Finally somebody who understand that 1984 was not anti socialist but anti government.

    • @thesquishedelf1301
      @thesquishedelf1301 5 лет назад +3

      *anti-Totalitarian
      I fail to see what’s so libertarian about the book, Orwell and Ayn Rand would hate each other’s political opinions.

  • @false8260
    @false8260 5 лет назад +20

    I showed the last video in my language arts class

  • @stevenneiman9789
    @stevenneiman9789 5 лет назад +2

    The scary thing is how much of 1984 has actually come about in the real world very easily. All you really need is a society where critically thinking is not systematically taught, and demagoguery becomes the easiest (and eventually the go-to) way to convince people of anything. And once that happens, tyranny will inevitably follow.

  • @cookieusa1
    @cookieusa1 5 лет назад +6

    Got to be my favorite, or one of, authors out there.

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 5 лет назад +72

    Under the spreading chestnut tree
    I sold you and you sold me
    There lie they and here lie we
    Under the spreading chestnut tree

  • @alexandreparot5846
    @alexandreparot5846 5 лет назад +2

    This episode is double-plus-good

  • @dercarrot991
    @dercarrot991 5 лет назад +5

    You never touch on Winston lover or the entirety of Newspeak, those where pretty damn big parts

  • @gabrielgonzalezc1037
    @gabrielgonzalezc1037 5 лет назад +23

    Spoiler: Big Brother is actually Walpole.

    • @anarchisttechsupport6644
      @anarchisttechsupport6644 5 лет назад

      You misspelled Google, the owner of youtube. Bigger Brother is spelled with 3-letters...

    • @blizzyyt2281
      @blizzyyt2281 5 лет назад

      Gabriel González C no it’s skillshare

    • @mansamusa1743
      @mansamusa1743 5 лет назад

      Gabriel González C Walpole will lead the uprising against big brother you eastasian spy!

  • @DragonxFlutter
    @DragonxFlutter 5 лет назад +3

    Can we please get this as #1 on Trending so everybody can wake up? Because there are tons of people that could use this information.
    >very not subtly glares at the extremists in US politics

    • @Trooper-tr6zi
      @Trooper-tr6zi 5 лет назад

      Ya you Yankees need to fix jo s***
      Not to be rude but that is part of the reason why more Texans and Hawaiians support independence there sick of the unreformabal u.s government

    • @underrated1524
      @underrated1524 5 лет назад +1

      Props for not falling for the temptation of picking sides. 👍

    • @DragonxFlutter
      @DragonxFlutter 5 лет назад

      @Trooper1139
      It’s not incapable of being redeemed, it’s just that extremists refuse to look past their own self interests, and you get ostracized and suppressed even if you’re vaguely related and still disagree with the group agenda.
      @Underrated1
      Just because I don’t fully agree with one side doesn’t mean I’m so blind as to think the other doesn’t have its own faults. The US political system should work on compromise and cooperation for the benefit of the common citizen; not be used to serve the agendas of whichever extremist group is currently in control.

    • @underrated1524
      @underrated1524 5 лет назад

      @@DragonxFlutter Of course, of course.

    • @Trooper-tr6zi
      @Trooper-tr6zi 5 лет назад

      @@DragonxFlutter but...I'm not disagreeing with you

  • @TFAltHist
    @TFAltHist 19 дней назад +1

    Some corrections:
    -London is still called London, Airstrip One refers to Britain itself.
    -Oceania, rather than just being Britain, also covers the Americas, southern Africa, Ireland, and, well, Oceania (or so the Party claims, at least).

  • @conornorris6815
    @conornorris6815 5 лет назад +4

    funny how society can actually be seen to follow much of this without actually being directed to do so

  • @Mranshumansinghr
    @Mranshumansinghr 4 года назад +1

    Watching this in July of 2020 makes me want to read this book.

  • @wolfbyte3171
    @wolfbyte3171 5 лет назад +43

    Fun fact: The last time 1984 was a bestseller hot trending book was... 2017, after the rise of "alternative facts"

    • @braith117
      @braith117 5 лет назад +37

      Also about the time Antifa started attacking everyone they were told were "fascists."

    • @braith117
      @braith117 5 лет назад +25

      @Piglor attacking random people who show up to counter-protest you, smash windows, torch cars, and throw bottle bombs after getting beaten in a brawl you started, attacking police and media later on when no counter protesters show up for you to fight, and none of those being one-off events.

    • @ganondorfdragmire7886
      @ganondorfdragmire7886 5 лет назад +7

      @@braith117 ANTIFA has stooped pretty low in their excessively self-righteous crusading, but they're still leagues above the neo-nazi groups they combat.

    • @kyleschafer6275
      @kyleschafer6275 5 лет назад +30

      @@ganondorfdragmire7886 nah, theyre one im the same, just like the pigs at the end of animal farm.

    • @arubinojr5670
      @arubinojr5670 5 лет назад +6

      You folks would be better at this if you hadn't happily let all ability to be subtle be drained out of you. But definitely keep barking.

  • @ajw5032
    @ajw5032 3 года назад +1

    my favorite guide book

  • @francomartinez1286
    @francomartinez1286 5 лет назад +11

    I am waiting for fahrenheit 451 or Asimov´s novels.

    • @TheNinetySecond
      @TheNinetySecond 5 лет назад

      They did cover Asimov himself. I don't know if you'll get much more than that before they've done overviews of all the greats.

  • @guitaristAustin
    @guitaristAustin 4 года назад +2

    Is there a transcript that is publicly available of this video? I have never heard anyone else describe 1984 the way you have and it’s amazing to me. Just want to be able to share it with people in my life too and introduce them to this.

  • @don-jx2xn
    @don-jx2xn 5 лет назад +7

    Orwell: writes 1984
    Western nations: Okay cheers for the step by step guidebook
    Orwell: *am I a joke to you*

  • @rullmourn1142
    @rullmourn1142 5 лет назад

    TY, Orwell was an Imperial policeman in Burma for five years. In the Spanish Civil War was badly wounded, shot in the neck.

  • @ОлегКозлов-ю9т
    @ОлегКозлов-ю9т 5 лет назад +5

    War is peace
    Freedom is slavery
    Ignorance is strength

  • @lukemendes4257
    @lukemendes4257 5 лет назад +1

    I could've used this when I had my English Exam!

  • @juancarlosmartinez2876
    @juancarlosmartinez2876 5 лет назад +3

    As a Spaniard I cannot put in words how glad I am that someone out there did the research and did not prortray the Spanish Civil War as a simplistic Good vs Evil conflict. Btw, still waiting for Extra History series based on us.

  • @felipejensen2727
    @felipejensen2727 4 года назад +2

    This video is extremely relevant for this year's elections.

  • @brycevo
    @brycevo 5 лет назад +6

    4:52
    I was about to say that. Oh well

    • @tuerculosisgaming6307
      @tuerculosisgaming6307 2 года назад +1

      "Abandon all hope ye who enter here"
      Lol this is what is writen at the Gates of hell,so true

  • @Lt_Fryes
    @Lt_Fryes 5 лет назад

    I've just started reading the book! Thanks so much for posting this!

  • @levierina
    @levierina 5 лет назад +8

    I wish you spent some time on the NewSpeak
    Maybe another video? :3

  • @geostyma
    @geostyma 5 лет назад

    I didn't get to read this book in high school, everyone should take the time to read it.

  • @PonderingJosh
    @PonderingJosh 5 лет назад +12

    I feel like this is happening today all over, especially in the mainstream media.

    • @alfin3644
      @alfin3644 5 лет назад

      And social networks.

    • @samgarvey5669
      @samgarvey5669 5 лет назад +3

      Joshua Bowman Fox News is the literal embodiment of Two Minutes Hate

    • @reclusiarchgrimaldus1269
      @reclusiarchgrimaldus1269 Год назад

      @@samgarvey5669 Pretty much all of corporate media

  • @Theomorianmms
    @Theomorianmms Год назад +2

    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
    Big brother is always Watching

  • @notsosilentbobz5797
    @notsosilentbobz5797 5 лет назад +5

    Animal farm is one the most horrifying stories, I was forced to read.

  • @artofthepossible7329
    @artofthepossible7329 5 лет назад +1

    And then you have Kaiserriech. In Oswald Mosely's Totalist faction you have a certain Eric Blair.
    The former was the founder of the British Union of Fascists, the latter writer of this very book.
    The what ifs involving that party are some very broad strokes. Although it would probably make Thatcher look as though she couldn't make her mind up.

  • @player1ready664
    @player1ready664 5 лет назад +11

    I didn’t know Orwell served in the Spanish civil war

    • @harbl99
      @harbl99 5 лет назад +12

      _Homage to Catalonia_ in a nutshell: "I got dysentery, saw my friends die needlessly, and got shot in the neck. A++, would visit Spain again."

    • @evan448
      @evan448 5 лет назад +4

      Also served in the British civil service in India its why he became a socialist after seeing the dire poverty there

    • @ideclaredwaronyourfrenchas4123
      @ideclaredwaronyourfrenchas4123 5 лет назад +3

      @@evan448 He no longer saw himself as a socialist after he served in the spanish civil war as he saw the tyrannical actions done by the republicans to civilian and prisoners alike

    • @michdem100
      @michdem100 5 лет назад +9

      @@ideclaredwaronyourfrenchas4123 Do you have a source for that? It's not uncommon for Socialists to hate other Socialists that are either too soft or to authoritarian.

    • @khaaaled2007
      @khaaaled2007 5 лет назад +6

      @@ideclaredwaronyourfrenchas4123 That's just not rue, like a complete fabrication, Orwell was a Libertarian Socialist to the day he died

  • @aaronyandell2929
    @aaronyandell2929 5 лет назад

    Great episode guys. And very well put. Thank you.

  • @QuikVidGuy
    @QuikVidGuy 5 лет назад +3

    Thank you for including that Orwell was a socialist and distinguishing between authoritarian and libertarian socialism

  • @eugeneoliveros5814
    @eugeneoliveros5814 5 лет назад

    There’s this game called REDCON that combines themes from some dystopian stories, mostly from when one of the antagonists literally say “War is peace” after defending the dystopia like in brave new world

  • @MLGCaptainVirgil
    @MLGCaptainVirgil 5 лет назад +4

    Road to Wigan Pier is also a good book to read to get an understanding of Orwell and his views

  • @michaelrobinson166
    @michaelrobinson166 5 лет назад +1

    I don't care about Extra Sci-fi as a series but I need to watch for the greatest novel

  • @newworldhopes8462
    @newworldhopes8462 5 лет назад +9

    Make a video revolving around the lore of Man in the High Castle, I think it'd be neat!

  • @robbibob6392
    @robbibob6392 5 лет назад +1

    That description of the 2 minuter hate sounds like a metal consert.

  • @xcar0982
    @xcar0982 5 лет назад +7

    Fear is always the weapon of any politician, and the downfall of any nation.

  • @mygills3050
    @mygills3050 3 года назад

    that image of "you are now leaving civil war Spain" just casually on a sign is hilarious.