If you're curious, check out our earlier episode on John W. Campbell here, a notable magazine editor in the history of science fiction: ruclips.net/video/Ctpvd2VvukQ/видео.html
How, as an Oregonian, did I not know that Frank Herbert found his inspiration on our coastline! And that he's from Tacoma!? Love the books even more now.
Yeah bois, got our melange appies before we go ferda on some wierding way leg day. Gotta get in that pracky if you're going to roll with muad'dib bois: ferda.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain
Dune was actually the first really big Sci-Fi classic that I read. It was back in middle school. I was browsing the library, and noticed a book that shared a name with a Windows DOS game that I had played when I was really young. And what's funny, is that Dune was also the first book where I encountered the concept of dividing a physical book into, uh, ‘sub-books’. Yeah. I was really confused. Book > Books > Chapters > Pages, Paragraphs, and words. Super weird. So I laughed while watching this episode, because it jogged my memory of that confusion, as I learned the cause for the books within books in this case.
My favorite part of the whole book(s) is when a chief of the fremen spat on Duke Leto’s conference table. At first it is taken as an insult, but after Duncan Idaho is able to speak. He spits on the table as well, and explains to the duke that it was a sign of respect. Since moisture is so precious, even spitting is something you’d rather not do, and so among the fremen, to present some of your body’s moisture to someone else is a sign of allegiance and respect. Frank Herbert was perhaps the greatest world builder of all time, possibly outclassing even Tolkien.
Dude, everything about the Fremen culture felt so realistic and nuanced. Also, when Paul cries for the man he just killed, and the Fremen are shocked. "He gives water to the dead?"
im a long time fan of the books and an aspiring writer myself. getting to hear this back story literally brought tears to my eyes. I've read nearly everything he's ever written and to know how hard and long he had to struggle to be published gives me alot of hope. Thank you for this series and im looking forward to the other episodes.
@@omega4446 "Think you of the fact that a deaf person cannot hear. Then, what deafness may we not all possess? What senses do we lack that we cannot see and cannot hear another world all around us?"
Dune is my ALL TIME favorite Dune book. Being called as one of the best scifi novels is an understatement, it is THE BEST novel. Frank Herbert is a genius, he has a unique way of writing profound paradoxical concepts in clear and simple ways. For example “My father once told me that respect for truth comes close to being the basis for all morality. 'Something cannot emerge from nothing,' he said. This is profound thinking if you understand how unstable 'the truth' can be.”. It makes you consider and think about what is right and what is wrong, that there is no constant virtue and morality is a concept bounded by time and culture. What is taboo now could be virtuous in another age and culture and vise versa. If you're interested in Dune but you're busy with work and life consider getting the audiobook, you can listen to it while commuting back and forth from work.
I'm so glad you guys are doing this. I received "Dune" as a gift when I was 9 years old, and while I had enjoyed reading before, it was the first book I ever really, truly loved. It ended up being the main reason I became such an avid reader and consumer of science fiction.
Eh, it was one part of video that sucked. Not only it had ZERO connection with what was being said, it was repeated twice as non-sequitur filler for some reason. I like SW, but it nearly made me hit dislike button.
Personnal fun fact : in my town, in France, near the Atlantic, we have a nice big beach. In the 90's when I was a kid, we went to the beach, and it was flat, from the parcking lot to the sea. They built a nice fence for the dune to form and the sand to accumulate. 20 years later, I took a look to the beach, and what we have now is a bunch of dunes, hills and small pockets of grass and bushes. This beach is our little part of Arrakis. ^^
For folks in the comments saying that they have to read Dune, we got some great news. Over on our twitch channel, we're hosting Book Club every Tuesday. We're in the middle of Dune right now and we have a great mix of people who have read it before, and folks who have never touched it! If you want to read along and discuss the importance of spice, plans, and puns, come join in on Tuesday nights at 5:15pm PST at twitch.tv/ExtraCredits - A
Although I couldn't get into Dune while I was reading it, I still have a lot of respect for its influence. Heck, I love Warframe, and the lore in that game is heavily inspired by the kind of world Frank Herbert wrote.
dude stumbled onto this channel and I've watch most of the history stuff and absolutely loved every episode now you do a video about my favorite book of all time! All of you are doing amazing work cant wait to see more
I tried reading it but it starts horribly for me. I need a character to be invested in and if the super natural is involved at least a basic explanation soon before or after it's involved. I didn't get either trying to read the first Dune book, 10 pages in and it just threw so much meaningless crap names at me that held no meaning while barely giving me anything. I hated it and stopped soon after.
"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion."
nice to hear about this cause despite being a huge science fiction fan I know very little of Dune and have never read it I think it is finally time for that to change
Ah, I needed this! Thanks to the EC crew and Matt is really finding his stride as narrator. As a longtime Dune and FH fan this hit the spot on a frigid February morning. Keep up the good work!
Goodness, I love Dune. I know many people don't like the movie's but I love them and because of them I got into the book series at a young age. Who can forget the "Litany against fear".
Sterling Lanier also wrote Hiero's Journey which was an influence on both D&D and Gamma World with a passage that basically describes leveling up before, you know...*it existed*.
I need more of this! This is your best cycle so far, covering my beloved books (and im sure very impprtant books for lots of people). And you are doing it in great way!
This is it. I've waited and waited. And it is finally here! Getting notifications DO pay off! PS: Jesus are you guys a bunch of teasers, hinting at Dune multiple times in previous episodes.
This is a fascinating introduction to the origin of the Dune series! I am fully engaged and happy to come back to this channel as more videos are released!
Been watching this channel for a really long time, since you first released the Punic Wars series, and when I saw you'd be doing sci-fi, this was the one thing I really hoped you'd eventually cover. Cheers, lads n lasses, and all hail to mighty Muad'Dib!
I played it even before I knew about the book Dune. I was young, didnt understand much but I had great time playing it. Good old Westwood game. Fun fact: First Dune RTS game actually competed with the first Warcraft game in popularity and playability. Dune has its place in the gaming history.
The Analog was my introduction to sci-fi through my father's subscription when I was younger. Then his old collection of the Foundation series and Dune.
I am so happy that you uploaded these great additions to extra sci-fi. Diving deeper into the themes of cyberpunk was mentioned a loong time ago, is there hope that we will get to see episodes about neuromancer or snow crash? I would also love to see the great dystopian/utopian novels and their ideas discussed. Anyways thanks a lot for the great content!!
Exurb1a made a "shit history of Dune" which compelled me to buy the book on Audiobook. It is honestly amazing and worth a listen because it is a great listen while you play sci-fi games
More like build an audience. Herbert obviously never stopped marketing and reached the right influencers after tirelessly working on it. Seth Godin would be proud.
For a novel I have only read once, the idea of Dune, the universe of Dune, the aesthetic it has placed on me leaves and indelible mark. As a want-to-be novelist I have always said the two greatest science-fiction influences on me have been Dune and Outlaw Star. Wish me luck I guess...
I wasn’t aware that “Dune World” lost (or even was nominated.) The novel “Dune” tied for a Hugo win in 66. Having the same story nominated twice has to be rare.
No great jump chronologically? The last third of the book skipped over years! His sister was born and grew up, he had a kid off-camera that was never seen, all between chapters.
Arthur C. Clarke: 2001: A Space Odyssey 2010: Odyssey Two 3001: The Final Odyssey But yeah, "skips a few years", through a small part of one human lifetime....
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If you're curious, check out our earlier episode on John W. Campbell here, a notable magazine editor in the history of science fiction: ruclips.net/video/Ctpvd2VvukQ/видео.html
Extra Credits ok
Notifications gang
BruhItz JustinMcNair Your a day late....
FATHER THE SLEEPER HAS AWAKENED!
3:05 you know "arroyo" is simply "creek" in spanish?
Who would have thought the author of Dune got inspired by dunes.
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Dunes lead to Dune?! Gasp!!
death wish So did dune, fruit trees in the southern caves. The fremen grew their food.
Oh my Dune i never thought of that.
In Oregon, of all places
"He who controls the spice, controls the universe/ world" -16th century Spain and Portugal
Laughs in Dutch
Laltluangliana Sailop Dutch? *Laughs in Britain*
@@Graham226 British got rich by cash crops and taxes from india not by selling spices.
Most spices comes from indonesia, of which colonialised by dutch
"He who commands the sea, has command of everything" -Themistocles, Admiral.
Also Herbert was in the US Navy during WW2, so I can imagine him getting really bored of water....
PavarottiAardvark can relate.
Seemingly not that bored, considering the Pandora Sequence series.
How, as an Oregonian, did I not know that Frank Herbert found his inspiration on our coastline! And that he's from Tacoma!? Love the books even more now.
ditto, live a hour from Florence, seen the dunes many time, never put that together.
Right!? Fellow Oregonian here as well (I even live on the Coast haha), and it makes me love the books even more now
Born and raised in Coos Bay and I had no idea either. I miss those dunes :(
Jesse Harlan I grew up in north bend the dunes are so nice to hike through, it’s cool to see other people from there
Herbert and LeGuin are two of my favorite authors and they were both Oregonians. There's something in the water up there I'm sure.
The spice must flow bois
HE WHO CONTROLS THE SPICE CONTROLS THE UNIVERSE!
All I'm asking for is a small suitcase of Spice.
Well, Old Spice do?
Yeah bois, got our melange appies before we go ferda on some wierding way leg day. Gotta get in that pracky if you're going to roll with muad'dib bois: ferda.
He who can destroy a Pumpkin Spice Chai, controls a Pumpkin Spice Chai
Walk without rhythm and you won't attract the worms.
Don't wear a Holtzman shield either. It'll create the same problem.
Activate Christopher Walken dance mode.
Do a barrel roll?
Listen to the sound of my voice
So...get drunk?
“Arrakis is not my destination.” She said.
“Arrakis is the destination of everyone” he replied.
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain
Dune was actually the first really big Sci-Fi classic that I read. It was back in middle school. I was browsing the library, and noticed a book that shared a name with a Windows DOS game that I had played when I was really young.
And what's funny, is that Dune was also the first book where I encountered the concept of dividing a physical book into, uh, ‘sub-books’. Yeah. I was really confused. Book > Books > Chapters > Pages, Paragraphs, and words. Super weird. So I laughed while watching this episode, because it jogged my memory of that confusion, as I learned the cause for the books within books in this case.
Sterling Lanier: A true unsung hero of scifi fandom!
Indeed what a humble dude.
I wonder if the publisher feels bad about firing him given the novel's place in literature today?
My favorite part of the whole book(s) is when a chief of the fremen spat on Duke Leto’s conference table. At first it is taken as an insult, but after Duncan Idaho is able to speak. He spits on the table as well, and explains to the duke that it was a sign of respect. Since moisture is so precious, even spitting is something you’d rather not do, and so among the fremen, to present some of your body’s moisture to someone else is a sign of allegiance and respect. Frank Herbert was perhaps the greatest world builder of all time, possibly outclassing even Tolkien.
Dude, everything about the Fremen culture felt so realistic and nuanced. Also, when Paul cries for the man he just killed, and the Fremen are shocked. "He gives water to the dead?"
Damn maybe I should have read the book before I watched the new movie.
@@lombardo141 This scene was in the movie too tho
Hahahaha not even close to Tolkien, shut up.
im a long time fan of the books and an aspiring writer myself. getting to hear this back story literally brought tears to my eyes. I've read nearly everything he's ever written and to know how hard and long he had to struggle to be published gives me alot of hope. Thank you for this series and im looking forward to the other episodes.
Same. Hearing that freaking DUNE was rejected constantly really drives the point home.
"Continue your training, and keep trusting Yueh implicitly." lol
(laughs awkwardly)
@@omega4446 agreed
@@omega4446 "Think you of the fact that a deaf person cannot hear. Then, what deafness may we not all possess? What senses do we lack that we cannot see and cannot hear another world all around us?"
Do you think that he does not know what he has won?
I love Yueh,,,
Fun Fact: Frank Herbert once denied Iron Maiden from using “Dune” as a song title.
Waffles The Wookie that would have been pretty damn cool
Interesting
That can't be right. Copyright laws explicitely state you can't copyright a title.
@@lisaenglert3202 If you want to hear it, it's called "To Tame A Land"
To tame a land from Piece of Mind i presume?
Dune is my ALL TIME favorite Dune book. Being called as one of the best scifi novels is an understatement, it is THE BEST novel. Frank Herbert is a genius, he has a unique way of writing profound paradoxical concepts in clear and simple ways.
For example “My father once told me that respect for truth comes close to being the basis for all morality. 'Something cannot emerge from nothing,' he said. This is profound thinking if you understand how unstable 'the truth' can be.”.
It makes you consider and think about what is right and what is wrong, that there is no constant virtue and morality is a concept bounded by time and culture. What is taboo now could be virtuous in another age and culture and vise versa. If you're interested in Dune but you're busy with work and life consider getting the audiobook, you can listen to it while commuting back and forth from work.
"He who controls the spice controls the universe!"
What? Someone was going to say it sooner or later.
I'm so glad you guys are doing this. I received "Dune" as a gift when I was 9 years old, and while I had enjoyed reading before, it was the first book I ever really, truly loved. It ended up being the main reason I became such an avid reader and consumer of science fiction.
Can we just appreciate the prequel meme in this? Thanks for the laugh Extra Credits.
You mean the Golden Path at 2:27 ?
Eh, it was one part of video that sucked. Not only it had ZERO connection with what was being said, it was repeated twice as non-sequitur filler for some reason. I like SW, but it nearly made me hit dislike button.
"I hate sand. It's coarse and rough, and it gets everywhere."
Worst pick-up line ever
@@KuK137 Dune was a major inspiration for George Lucas. It was one of the reasons there is the planet Tatooine.
“And that day dawned when Arrakis lay at the hub of the universe with the wheel poised to spin.” -Princess Irulan
Personnal fun fact : in my town, in France, near the Atlantic, we have a nice big beach. In the 90's when I was a kid, we went to the beach, and it was flat, from the parcking lot to the sea. They built a nice fence for the dune to form and the sand to accumulate. 20 years later, I took a look to the beach, and what we have now is a bunch of dunes, hills and small pockets of grass and bushes. This beach is our little part of Arrakis. ^^
For folks in the comments saying that they have to read Dune, we got some great news. Over on our twitch channel, we're hosting Book Club every Tuesday. We're in the middle of Dune right now and we have a great mix of people who have read it before, and folks who have never touched it! If you want to read along and discuss the importance of spice, plans, and puns, come join in on Tuesday nights at 5:15pm PST at twitch.tv/ExtraCredits - A
2:39 TIL the "I don't like sand" line can be phrased as a haiku.
God created Arrakis to train the faithful.
You mean the southern Oregon Coast. Lol
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
@@Gigas0101 i actually do the same...
This is really good timing because I started reading Dune last week.
Maye you want to stay away, then, lest there be unmarked spoilers?
Me too! XD
I love dune so much. Read it 16 times and I still get new meaning from it every time
Dune: *exists*
40k: IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE
Although I couldn't get into Dune while I was reading it, I still have a lot of respect for its influence. Heck, I love Warframe, and the lore in that game is heavily inspired by the kind of world Frank Herbert wrote.
Dune is an amazing piece of work that was extremely underrated at its birth
one of the truly Great Space Operas been waiting for this for a long time😎
I legit read that as "Great Spice Operas"
Not wrong
@@sophiatalksmusic3588 Ha
Dune, Arrakis, Desert Planet.
Source of the Geriatrics Spice Melange
dude stumbled onto this channel and I've watch most of the history stuff and absolutely loved every episode now you do a video about my favorite book of all time! All of you are doing amazing work cant wait to see more
What do you mean we don’t know if they ever got to meet!?!? How could they not? You’re killing me Extra. Love these videos! Thank you!
I have waited for this episode since this series started!
Dune is amazing, period.
book , movies and card game :)
I tried reading it but it starts horribly for me. I need a character to be invested in and if the super natural is involved at least a basic explanation soon before or after it's involved.
I didn't get either trying to read the first Dune book, 10 pages in and it just threw so much meaningless crap names at me that held no meaning while barely giving me anything. I hated it and stopped soon after.
@@mme.veronica735 Agreed. I managed to read the whole thing but by the end of it I still didn't understand what the Bene Gesserit were doing and why.
Zonofv 1 yeah same
halfrocanadian v why?
The way frank looked at the Dunes, reminds me of how George would get inspiration for ASOIF by standing on Hadrian's Wall.
As one of my favorite books of all time, Im extremely excited for your series on Dune!!
"what could go wrong?"
When the face of the Traitor is finally revealed
The fate of the Atreides will already be sealed... LOL
Oh, yeah. That.
This is the best Sci fi book period. So many gems from this story, the spice must flow and of course the litany gains fear
As someone who lives on the Oregon Coast, I can attest to the haunting beauty of the dunes.
The spice, and the episodes, must flow! Well done, one of my favorite channels!
YES! WE CAN'T WAIT FOR VILLENEUVE'S "DUNE"!
The Saga of Dune is far from over.
"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion."
Long Live
The Fighters
of Muad'dib
Dune is so amazing. It blew my mind 40 years after it's time, and will probably continue to do so for others in decades to come
So glad this video was made. I read the novels back when i was 16 yrs old in 1996. I was fscinated by the universe Frank H. created.
nice to hear about this cause despite being a huge science fiction fan I know very little of Dune and have never read it I think it is finally time for that to change
Muab Dib.
Fear is the mind killer.
One is my favorite character.
The other is my mantra during stressful moments.
Thank you, Frank Herbert.
dune got the hugo award but it tied with "this immortal" by roger zelazny and didn't lose to "here gather the stars" by clifford d simak.
Ah, I needed this! Thanks to the EC crew and Matt is really finding his stride as narrator. As a longtime Dune and FH fan this hit the spot on a frigid February morning. Keep up the good work!
I love this series so much! Can't wait to hear what you have to say about it
Goodness, I love Dune. I know many people don't like the movie's but I love them and because of them I got into the book series at a young age. Who can forget the "Litany against fear".
"He who controls the spice! Controls the Universe!"
Also what went wrong?
The same thing it always does. Greed
I mean prequels
Or god emperor
Sterling Lanier also wrote Hiero's Journey which was an influence on both D&D and Gamma World with a passage that basically describes leveling up before, you know...*it existed*.
I need more of this! This is your best cycle so far, covering my beloved books (and im sure very impprtant books for lots of people). And you are doing it in great way!
I'm glad you post. Your videos are well made, and filled to the brim with knowledge. Thank you for this service, I hope to be donating shortly. *MUAH*
There are no words for how much I absolutely adore Dune (and its sequels)
FINALLY!!! BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE YOU STARTED THIS SERIES!!!
Been looking forward to these dune videos
WWSD... What Would Stilgar Do
Some sort of lightweight book series?
Dodge rivalry duels with his fellow tribesmen?
This is it. I've waited and waited. And it is finally here! Getting notifications DO pay off!
PS: Jesus are you guys a bunch of teasers, hinting at Dune multiple times in previous episodes.
This is a fascinating introduction to the origin of the Dune series!
I am fully engaged and happy to come back to this channel as more videos are released!
It's so great to learn more about this classic series! Can't wait for more
I heard Dune and came as fast as I could.
TMI, Dude
Go to behind the dune for that
I didn't even have to try I heard dune and immediately came
I'm sure Slaanesh was pleased.
"Yueh, Yueh, Yueh! A million deaths for Yueh!"
Favorite book of all time.
I spit on your comment fremen style :)
Same.
agreed
Been watching this channel for a really long time, since you first released the Punic Wars series, and when I saw you'd be doing sci-fi, this was the one thing I really hoped you'd eventually cover. Cheers, lads n lasses, and all hail to mighty Muad'Dib!
2:30 Perfect. Thank you Extra Credits.
Having read dune, I'm glad you all made this.
Bruh were are my dune 2000 players I played when was very young but I loved it
I played it even before I knew about the book Dune. I was young, didnt understand much but I had great time playing it. Good old Westwood game.
Fun fact:
First Dune RTS game actually competed with the first Warcraft game in popularity and playability.
Dune has its place in the gaming history.
yeaaa mass tanks lez go
@@LocalHeretic-ck1kd same
Oh yeah, Dune 2000 is actually pretty good. Not as good as Dune 2, but it had some fun missions.
Absolutely fantastic content. I can't believe they're doing Dune! I love Extra Credits so much.
The Analog was my introduction to sci-fi through my father's subscription when I was younger. Then his old collection of the Foundation series and Dune.
I've been waiting a very long time for this!
My favorite part of Dune is when Paul finally reunites with Gurney and institutes the new changes in Fremen society
One of the greatest narratives of the 20th Century.
i have waited so long for this...
I've only ever read the first Dune book, but I'm glad I did. It was really, really good.
You should read the other five, they are good too. 😊
THE SPICE MUST FLOW
Really looking forward to this series! Would love to see you do a series on the Discworld by Sir Terry Pratchett
You did it! May Shai'Hulud bless your water!
I am so happy that you uploaded these great additions to extra sci-fi. Diving deeper into the themes of cyberpunk was mentioned a loong time ago, is there hope that we will get to see episodes about neuromancer or snow crash? I would also love to see the great dystopian/utopian novels and their ideas discussed. Anyways thanks a lot for the great content!!
My favorite book series along with Pat Rothfuss Kingkiller Chronicles
You should make an Extra Biology Series!
Ok, this is epic
I always was interested in some background lessons about Dune - nice. Thanks for the episode :D
Exurb1a made a "shit history of Dune" which compelled me to buy the book on Audiobook.
It is honestly amazing and worth a listen because it is a great listen while you play sci-fi games
The core message here is that if your work is good enough, it will get there, even if the experts don't agree.
More like build an audience. Herbert obviously never stopped marketing and reached the right influencers after tirelessly working on it. Seth Godin would be proud.
Love this thank you it fills in the gaps from the movie and part of the books 📚
One of the greatest Sci-fi novels i've read, now i just need the sequels.
For a novel I have only read once, the idea of Dune, the universe of Dune, the aesthetic it has placed on me leaves and indelible mark. As a want-to-be novelist I have always said the two greatest science-fiction influences on me have been Dune and Outlaw Star. Wish me luck I guess...
I wasn’t aware that “Dune World” lost (or even was nominated.) The novel “Dune” tied for a Hugo win in 66. Having the same story nominated twice has to be rare.
What an amazing video
So many great insights.
No great jump chronologically? The last third of the book skipped over years! His sister was born and grew up, he had a kid off-camera that was never seen, all between chapters.
I don't think that part existed yet. Remember the first book was originally a trilogy.
EC means that the book that we know as "Dune" (the first of the series) were originally three books.
Nick Clinite cool spoiler
IKR!!
Arthur C. Clarke:
2001: A Space Odyssey
2010: Odyssey Two
3001: The Final Odyssey
But yeah, "skips a few years", through a small part of one human lifetime....
I don't have word for how much I love dune.
OH BOI can't wait for all episodes to come out so I can binge it in one go
Seeing this about my fav book ever ❤️😍❤️
I'm also here to say I love Dune! I have an Arrakis travel poster on my wall, and a hoodie with the Atriedes crest on it!
I think I speak for almost everyone when I say that we are super excited for this