RTX 3080 / 3090 Undervolting | 100W Less = Same Performance?
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This has been great. My 3080 was running up to 77C in certain games but the undervolt combined with a slight fan curve adjustment got it down to 65° max. Less power and less noise as well. Thanks!
How much did you undervolt and how much are the clock speeds?
@@peterpfankuchen it varies from card to card how far you can push the voltage down. generally you can get the same as stock clocks and reduce power by a lot
My 3080 12gig is also running about 64-66c and maxed out at 255w (before I was hitting 345w and almost 80c with fans maxed out).
@@peterpfankuchen I set my 3080 clock speeds to 1850 at 850mv...seems very stable.
@@deanc3362 Seems really solid. Which exact card do you have and how much of a performance loss you have compared to stock, if I may ask?
Really glad you did this thank you. Very helpful!
I don't even care about the gpu, I just wanna watch vids in this quality with this guy talking
In 2022, this is still accurate.
Ya he knows his shit, no bullshit
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in 2024, this is still accurate
Great video, very good to know you could do this to lower heat pushed out into room as well as noise reduction is always as welcome addition.
Nice! Until today, I only used an adapted curve done by the OC Scanner feature, but with your suggested settings applied to my 3080ti FE, I was able to raise the TS graphics score by 2.1% with a higher stable core clock and lower temps.
Undervolting makes a huge difference... My EVGA FTW3 RTX 3080 lost 90W in power consumption. I really appreciate your tips on MHz/mV. It saved me a lot of time.
Yup really incredible. 80-100w less (depending on the GPU's silicon quality) for a loss of just 3-5% is really absurd.
@@erikhendrickson59 Yep... I pushed my power consuption even lower. I lost around 120-140W with 1830MHz@0.806mV with around 5-7FPS loss vs stock
My 3080 is UV to 1850Mhz@0.803mV and I tested it with 1440p Black Desert Online maxed out everything and Cyberpunk 2077 Ultra and RT Insane with no crashes at all.
My 3090TI was pulling 480W stock, undervolted takes 370w max and thermals drop from 70 to 62. So worth it
You are a genius, thanks to you I have managed to eliminate the noise of the coil and almost completely the noise of the fans. In return I have only lost a few fps which does not really affect my gaming experience! Thanks!!! You don't really need a water cooling system !!!
I always undervolt now. After watching your older video with the AMD and Nividia cards and how to do it I swear by it now. I've overclocked when I had a full size case but now would probably undervolt in any case because of thermals. I use to hit 84C on my 2080ti in a SFF now it stays about 78C with normal or less fan curve
SM580 user here: This is the news I've been waiting for. Thanks for sharing your undervolting numbers as well--very helpful!
This kind of content is what im looking for, hope you will keep doing this as series with future gpu
2019: Lets overclock and push it to the max
2020: Lets undervolt, lol. This thing eats watts for snacks.
From what I've heard, overclocking 3000 series cards doesn't give much extra performance but makes thermals go through the roof. It's generally just not worth it to overclock 3000 GPUs.
@@admiralgama6637 its really thanks to the turbo-boosting the cards do. They are running fairly aggressively.
You can still overclock with undervolting, using lower voltage with higher clocks.
@@channelthechannel Lower voltages makes workable freqs less not more. Cheating system failed.
@@maxinfly What? You can run higher frequencies at lower voltages. That's kind of the whole point of undervolting... running a certain frequency at a certain voltage. Trying to get the lowest voltage you can with stability.
Seeing a new video from this channel always makes my day! 😄 Can't wait to recieve my 3080 before the end of the month.
Undervolting was the best decision I made. Got a little over 15% bump in my vega 64 performance while lowering temps and noise. Been running the same uv/oc for over a year now. From now on I'll try undervolting with all my future gpus
Main point of video (for me): 6:26
Tells about general clock that gives noticeable improvements without sacrificing performance.
Thanks. Always appreciate how clear and concise you are with the videos
Many thanks! Just after recieving my 3080 I was focused on OC... I saw your video and thats awsome, with your settings I have lower temps and even better score
GamersNexus / JayzTwoCents: let's overvolt and overclock with LN2
OptimumTech: Nah
While others are playing around with liquid nitrogen, Optimum is showing us what the wast majority of people will want to do. Assuming the card demand gets better and people get their hands on the new gpus.
I hate LN2 results they are useless, somone said 6ghz ryzen 5000 and it got me really excited but it's only on the liquid nitrogen.
@@Optive Are you really that stupid to believe a Ryzen chipset hitting 6ghz let alone on anything but LN2?
@@svn5994 I don't think we'll see a 6ghz chip.
At least with silicon.
Graphene processors in theory, are the next step.
basically laptop... it depend on software... if they need more power...
Cheers for this. Have overclocked and undervolted my 3070ti and got 1950MHz at 900mV - up from 1770MHz boost clock. Have been playing Control at 1440p Ultra with Ultra RTX on and had been stable for a period of 3 or so hours of gameplay. The temps went down from 80 degrees max to 73 degrees max and the card doesn't sound like it's going to take off.
I'm looking forward to doing some tweaking. I've got a 3080Ti in the Dan A4 and... she's getting a little toasty. (For those wondering: yes it fits but there's the slightest bit of rubbing between the fan hubs and the side panel. I used a 3m backed 1mm piece of something cut in half to make two 'stand off' kind of things on the fan shroud and that fixed the issue. Can't tell at a glance that anything is different, so it'll work for now.)
I usually have some extra airflow toward my case, and even then things get toasty.
Instead of dragging the entire curve down, you can instead press shift while highlighting the curve from the preferred voltage to the highest one, click on that preferred voltage point, press shift+enter and then enter again. Now all the other voltage point higher than the one you click will have the exact same clock speed as your preferred one.
That was also mean higher power & temps at lower speeds. Power usage for semiconductors is always a curve.
@@garethevans9789 well, actually no. what i was doing is keeping the power curve for lower speeds at stock, while capping the max clock on a certain voltage.
@@garethevans9789 the problem of dragging the whole curve down is that when the GPU is idle, it could be unstable because the voltage is too low. what we are trying to achieve here is to reduce the power draw and noise when we play games, it's pointless to drop the voltage when the CPU is at a low frequency when it's idle.
You've converted me to the joys of undervolting. Did this on my RTX 3090 and saved 80 watts and reduced a large amount of heat. Best part is it has made almost no difference to framerates and in some cases the framerate is actually a lot more stable.
what kind of thermal difference do you have?
@@user-pm7pw1tl3tI know this is super late and I’m not the dude you are replying to but I got some info.
Bought a 3090 bitcoin miner card. Redid the thermal pads. Undervolted the card. Went from 80 degrees max temp under load to 70 degrees. Idle temps went from 50 to 34 degrees. Performance is exactly the same. Absolutely love it
Ali awesome content as always! Keep up for videos like this one👌🏻
This is a great video to be out there when you’re not gaming or using your computer as a workstation it’s always good to have duel profiles set up as this can save a lot on your bills when the computer is for general use as well
Thank You for posting this. Found this very useful in helping me undervolting my card.
Thanks for this simple undervolting guide. It worked perfectly on my new 3080 ti FE with 850mV for 1920MHz which was the stable frequency with factory settings with power reduced from 340W to 305W and -4°C of temperature with the same custom fan curve and less noise.😀
I have just donit yesterday and with 1695Mhz and 800mv i got down at max 53/54° in 4k 117 fps locked for 120Hz.
Was 60° in auto before without undervolt.
From 350 watts (peak to 370 watts) goes between min 235 watts in 250/260 watss in average and max 280 watts in peak
Game tested Far cry 5 in Ultra 4k 120Hz
Almost no lost
Fans was Auto so between 53/54% , before 60%
i got the same card and i got some crash at 0.893 mv and 1935 mhz :/
Mine is Fe too but on 850mv same temps, fan speed and power draw as stock. Am i doing something wrong?
after some random crashes in folding@home, I raised the voltage to 875 mV always @1920 MHz. This is now rock stable and almost the same power draw ~300 W under folding@home.
I am glad you made a video about underclocking and also gave us results and comparisons, very well made. My GTX 1060 Strix is running at 2100MHz with 1063mv and 4400MHz on the VRAM. This is my profile for the maximum performance, I also have a energy saving profile with 1710MHz at 800mv + VRAM OCed at 4400MHz and a balanced profile ehich is basically a optimized stock setting (2000MHz at 960mv, 4400MHz VRAM). I also optimized the fan curve, it is quieter and doesn't get warmer than 66°C, power consumption is also less with balaced profile. :)
Is the overclock on memory worth it at the @1710MHz . I know memory does not suck that much power, but i would assume there would still be enough bandwidth with no or smaller overclock to the memory. (just all in the name of saving that little bit extra power :D )
That is atleast my experience with laptop 1050TI, that at a power saving profile, memory OC is not worth it (1080p)
How would you go about doing this in Linux? (Just assuming you use it cause of your Tux profile picture). After poking around a bit in GWE I don't see any similar functionality.
@@gismo3564 Depends on the card, but overclocking memory often has little effect on memory voltage and thus it requires little extra power. Whether that is worth it varies from card to card, on AMD cards it is often worth it. For Nvidia it depends, but a couple of benchmarks should show the differences very quickly (also varies from game to game btw).
@@DGauze I use Linux on my laptop and have dual boot. When running linux on my desktop it just uses stock settings and is idling because I am just doing things like using android kitchens and such things. :)
Is there a way to optimize the graphics cards setting on linux?
@@jadoei13 However, I tested memory overcloking on my GTX 1060 and a RX 580. It does not seem to make any difference in power draw for Nvidia cards, but the AMD one comsumed a few (5-15) watts more when raising the memory clock. I just left it at stock and undervolted it a little. Memory overclockig really helps performance, I had around 3-5fps more in 1080p.
Great video.
Had completely forgot about undervolting my EVGA 3080 in the Ncase M1
Ended up just doing a voltage limit....was having issues with VREL at stock. My max stable voltage is 1.068v. So using this method to disallow the gpu boost to go past this fixed my stability problems! Can still boost up to about 2050 depending on the game.
3:21, guys apply every data point here in a curve and you'll get a nice curve, i went from default clocks on my TUF 3080 OC at 1890-1980mhz while volting 100mv less on each mhz, using 10W less power at max I achieved a stable clock around 2000mhz (1980-2040mhz). My temps also went like 10 degrees down. Its crazy how i only ever saw core clock speeds over 2000mhz once in a blue moon with a totally cold start, and now its just consistency over 2000mhz even after hours of load with the undervolt.
Nice guide thank you.
I have a Msi Rtx 3080 Trio Gaming Z. It now runs on 850mV at 1905mhz and consumes a maximum of 280W. On the 1st floor it goes up to 380W
Do you recommend your gpu for gaming purpose especially at 1440 175Hz. How has your experience been so far of Msi Gaming z trio rtx 3080, do you recommend it?
Thanks! Have a 3080 TUF in a A4-H2O and it’s almost silent now without significant performance loss.. Great guide!
which setting do you use?
I undervolt my 2080 ti and still get the same fps in 1080p gaming. Love it because I dropped 7-10 degrees 70-73 to roughly 60ish. The stock OC would go to 2050 but I stepped it down to 1800.
This is so great! I got my EVGA 3080 XC3 Ultra @ 1950mhz - 931mv! Only loss of about 20-50 mhz but almost 10C cooler.
Love this kind of specific content, keep it up
Great guide! My founders 3080 was throttling at 83C! And only 1920MHz After undervolting to 900mv I’m getting 1950MHz continuously at just 73C!!!
I can’t tell if my eyes are deceiving me, but I’ve only run one benchmark so I will see how it holds up over time
I used 1950MHz with 931 mV on a Tuf 3080 ans it's soo worth it ! The temps dropt around 5 degrees (75 C to 70 C) while using a lower fan speed (75% to 65%) (gaming on 1440p High settings)
Case: Ncase M1 V6
I've been looking for this data since the launch of the 3080. SOME of us have 550W PSUs, and since GPUs are usually tuned far past the point of peak efficiency and reference specs are very conservative, this is a very sensible point to research and surprisingly uncommon on tech channels.
(Not that anyone can buy one of these things right now!)
lol I have 550w psu with rtx 3080 ti and its working perfecly fine
gpu takes 350w cpu 110w and there is 90w left for the motherboard and memory
Yeah but isnt there this 80% best transfer rate theory, which you should keep your total system power at 80% of the PSU capability? Asking seriously here not being sarcasm.
I found this video because of the same thing. I have a year old 550 psu in my gaming rig. I am running a stock speed Ryzen 3070X which is very efficient so I wouldn't need much of a reduction in RTX 3080 watts.
I love this idea! It makes me want to wait though for the rumored ampere on tsmc cards that are supposed to come out in 2021. It hurts me to see that Nvidia had to throw so much power at these cards to get the performance they give. I'm really curious to see how Big navi is with power efficiency and performance. I believe it's using the tsmc for memory and rumors suggest that it may take less power for similar performance. We'll see soon enough though.
TSMC doesn't make memory. But their process is better than Samsung's, so AMD should be more efficient.
@@concinnus and it is!
Excellent video, thanks! May give this a shot on my 3090FE, even though airflow is great and temps are far below what's shown.
Thanks. I managed to get the best 3d mark performance so far using less power, less heat and less fan noise thanks to minor undervoltage based on this guide. This also means I get less fan noise as a result of less heat when gaming! In short: awesome!
Power draw is one of the biggest things pushing me towards Big Navi early next year when I'm looking to upgrade my system.
I don't want a space heater in my room.
Luckily I live in a cool environment so heat is almost never an issue. In fact I don't even use heater during winter because my PC does the job lol.
I dont think big navi will be much cooler. Amd will probably overclock it to be same/faster than an 3080
@@ChrisBa303 Yeah but underclocking on 7nm is great. There is way more potential on TSMC 7nm then there is on Samsung's refined 10nm node called 8nm. I suspect that if you're willing to run at 1800-1900mhz, you can run at even lower voltages and reduce the power draw even further.
@@ChrisBa303 doubt it, they are on a smaller node and advance node while using like on gddr6 (most likely). Gddr6x is the reason why ampere consumes so much power.
Educated guess is total board power will be about the same.
When testing core clock stability after years of experience, i can say that
1- Killing Floor 2: Maxed settings with Nvidia Flex enabled.
2- Control: maxed settings RT max and DLSS enabled if you don't have meaningful fps (around 60)
these two easily shows the limit of your silicon.
Dont forget cyberpunkXD
Thank you! Used your guide for PBO2 undervolting on my 5600X but i'm not sure of the exact temperature difference as i also changed cooler from air to AIO but it did go from quickly hitting 73c on air to barely being able to hit 60c on water, so that's pretty nice! I used this guide to undervolt my 3080 and so far i've only tested with Heaven benchmark. But it dropped 6-8c on GPU/hotspot and 50w less powerdraw with a 2% drop in performance, so that's a good start :)
Great work Ali, keep them videos commin'!
Also, rtx 3000 in ghost s1, there's a video alot of us sff ppl would like!
Wondering how many numerical errors this would produce for compute applications. I know that the reason the voltage is high is to keep the computation accurate, and that in graphics it doesn’t matter so much if the numbers are off: the coloration might be slightly different but you’re not likely to notice. That’s why undervolting works for games. But how far can you safely go, in terms of scientific computing
Very interesting. Not a pro, but maybe the error checking functionality of gdr6x will offset such an issue.
Bits are on/off not analogue values so floating point number results shouldn't be effected. When the voltage drops below that required for the transistors to work, the whole program logic fails after all it's operation depends on that insufficient voltage switching fast enough.
But you can run test programs to check operation, with dynamic frequency changes depending on work load it becomes harder to test every performance level. So limiting voltage and testing at max work load makes practical sense, as heat and noise is less at lower frequencies anyway
@@RobBCactive bits themselves are analog. There is a threshold for response where a bit is on or off. Error checking is built in to caches and buses to ensure loss is minimal, but they work within a threshold of tolerance. That tolerance is set at a given charge who’s energy is provided constantly from a source but modulated (divided) but internal clocks. Lower power too much and it fails to function entirely. In between, you have a band where it can function, but there are errors. Above that is stability. Above that for any given card is the rated stability, which is the MHz that the card is offered at. There is some wiggle room, but not so much, especially in the age of binning and aftermarket fine tuning. But the “tolerable” level of error is high when the output is visual, and the errors might only express themselves in subtle shifts of color in some small number of pixels each frame.
Thanks for the tutorial.
Here is my results with i7-6700k overclocked to 4,5 GHz, and after 30 minutes of Heaven benchmark. All data was taken from HWinfo, and power draw measured from the socket using power meter
RTX 3070 Ti
- Stock
GPU max Boost : 1935Mhz
Voltage : 1.081 mV
Max temp - 77
Hot Spot temp - 87
Max fan speed - 1684 RPM
Heaven Benchmark 4k score - 1325
Power usage - 380W
RTX 3070 Ti
- UV
GPU max Boost - 2010 Mhz
Voltage - 0.950 mV
Max temp - 70
Hot Spot temp - 80
Max fan speed - 1438 RPM
Heaven Benchmark 4k score - 1387
Power usage - 320W
THANK YOU!!
Huge thanks to you and your video, i was not a big fan of undervolting before, more of a big overclocking one! i managed to get my 3080 ti's voltage to 830mV @1850mhz and the results are just amazing, 10 degrees less and absolutly no FPS loss, i managed to get "great" and "Excellent" score in time spy (19600 gpu score)
I undervolted and 120mm modded my Asus Rog strix 3070TI, it now sits at 60C allmost silent at 1980Mhz core and +1000mhz memory.
The neat thing about doing this on my 3070ti was that the shroud fits perfectly over the 120mm fans, i just used a strip of foam tape and the shroud with its RGB just friction fit around the fans.
Looks stock, but with a few extra millimeters thickness so it's a 4.5 slot card.
Great success.
Currently running 1890MHz @ 825mV on a EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra and it is absolutely beautiful. Temps in benchmarking dropped 10-15 degrees and with no noticeable performance drop.
Any crashes, my games crashed in apex running 1850 MHz @ 850mV but that might just be apex
850mv and 1860mHz but 60c degrees and -100 watt for same performance of stock. Im happy
@@dangonzalez752 go to 875mv
I was able to get 2055 @ 950mV on my 3090. The card settles in @ 2025 because of the air cooler. I'm pretty sure I can 2200-ish MHz once I build a custom loop. This is my first time undervolting a gpu; power supply units are expensive right now.
My stock dell 3070 varied between 1750-1950Mhz, voltage varied between 850-1000mV and it consumed 220W on average. I fixed it at 1800Mhz @ 825mV and now it consumes 164W, this seems to be optimal. I also cranked the memory speed from 7000 to 8000Mhz. I then relaxed the fan curve so it makes half the noise roughly, targeting a loaded GPU temp of 70C. I set MSI afterburner to start with windows minimised with this profile. I haven't had any problems thus far.
Im running 1925 @ 825 mv feeling good about my 3090 fe silicon. Thanks for covering this , was waiting for more people to talk about this for ampere!
Wow, I thought 1965 @ 925 mV was pretty good on my 3080, with the size of the heatsink on that 3090 and it running cooler anyway you must have an absolutely cool and quiet beast there.
@@PlamoPeppa yea with 30% fans it doesnt go past 60c running port royale, i ran into some issues since my comment and decided to pump it up a little but im still 1925 @ 850MV and its perfectly stable now, its really impressive stuff.
Playing genshin impact right now at 45C lol
Is your undervolt still stable in ray traced titles? I think you are stressing more of the GPU with RT, so it’s worth checking. I had to back off my undervolt a little bit (which was stable with heaven)
Yeah, I had the same experience. Was fine until I tried an RTX title.
Same here (3080 fe). Looks like Ali got the same values I got in heaven. But had to turn up the voltage a bit for getting through more demanding stress tests.
Time spy stress test loop was actually less stable than port royale. Those two even manage to hit power limit at anything above 950mv.
So to avoid crashes to due power limit i went with 1980@950mv. But in many instances it settles at 1965mhz
I tried control and minecraft rtx after undervolting and didnt see a big difference in performance
@@sumkid9263 same here. I was able to save 75w or so with zero performance impact
I had a similar problem when I undervolted my Pascal gpu, I don't think it's related to RTX, rather that Heaven benchmark stresses the GPU differently than an actual game engine, which made my gpu driver crash at certain undervolts. It's always a good idea to give it +15mv when you find a stable undervolt to make sure it will stay that way in any workload.
I actually would underclock a 3090. If I chose one, it would likely be more for the RAM than the core vs the 3080. My summer profile for my 2080ti is .8volt at 1600Mhz, and it draws roughly the same power as the gtx1080 it replaced.
What gpu u got now?
Thanks for the video!
I did know that undervolting is a good thing, but maaan, reducing like 50-100 watt is really incredible!
Thanks for sharing this knowledge!
Really nice result and nice video. Is there a way to export and share profile from MSI Afterburner ? I am definitly interested by this kind of tweak, since I own a SF tower.
I have an EVGA FTW3 3090 and the first one I RMAd thinking it had power spike issues since it would trigger my Seasonic 750 watt psu protection and shut off. I now have a Superflower 1000 watt platinum and with the new card from EVGA I occasionally get breaker trips in my home which is just mind boggling as I'm nowhere near the limit for the 15amp breaker. (roughly 700 watts being pulled from the wall for the PC) I'm now undervolted at 900mV at 1950Mhz and don't seem to have any artifacting yet. According to HWinfo I've gone from a 420watt peak at stock profile which was 1920MHz all the way down to a peak of 345watts while keeping slightly better average fps in Unigine Heaven. Hopefully this will remain stable and work for me. All I can say is thank you and you have definitely gained a new sub.
I currently have this problem and rmad my strix 3080 and will undervolt my card. Care to give an update on how it's working out for you?
@@rsleepy255 any info on how it went? I have no idea what i'm even doing lol. I somehow got lucky and ended up with a high end gaming pc and i'm coming from console and i can only assume i'm having the same issues as yall.
Undervolting is so satisfying that I just look up videos like this sometimes
Nice transparent content you put together. Could I try the same mV settings for a watercooled 3090? Custom loop with two 360mm rads and distroplate for cpu/gpu. Thanks in advance
Awesome video, just watched your in-depth undervolting video to get my GPU undervolted. Just bought a 3090 MSI Gaming X Trio and undervolted it to 1875MHz @ 843mV and getting temps at 52C to 55C when playing Red Dead Redemption 2 at 4k 60fps with all graphic settings (for the most part) maxed out. I don't have any crazy, aggressive fan curve on my GPU or case fans either - my overall PC noise levels when under load are abut 40-42dB (which I guess is the preferred average) - I thought this was really odd but guess I got super lucky with getting these temp and noise level results from this card.
An even simpler way - drop the power limit to like 90 in afterburner, and raise the core and memory clocks by 50 or 100 or 150 or 200, depending on what is stable for you. Preferably, use an RT game to decide stability, like control, because RT games are more demanding and crash more often if your card is at the margin of stability.
Not the same thing, the card will still run at higher voltage. Here you specifically cap the voltage.
Any volta curve recommendations for a 3080 Ti?
I’m running mine 0.900V at 1905Mhz EVGA FTW3 Ultra and it’s working great.
man your channel its Awesom and you will reach 1.000.000 SUBS soon good luck and will done Excelent content Keeep up man you are the best
Thanks for the video! I had been mildly confused as to how to get afterburner to go flat at the top end so I had avoided undervolting until getting a 3000 series (I used to have a 2070 Super) but this video was super easy to follow so now I'm running a super modest undervolt -- my FTW3 Ultra 12gb 3080 was running at around 2040 MHz @ 1125 mV or so while gaming -- now, I'm @ 1950 / 925. Could probably go lower / more efficient, but I'm seeing about 5 degrees temp drop and not seeing any difference in performance so I'll take it.
My EVGA XC3 RTX 3080 10GB is more or less the same as yours after I undervolt it too.
Been waiting 1 month since launchday for my 3080 to be delivered... Maybe I'll try undervolting it one day 😔
Why don't you wait 10 days for the RX6000 series?
@@m.n.7382 To be honest I might not have a choice because I don't think my 3080 will arrive before then..
I pre ordered on September 17th and haven't heard anything since other than a queue position email..
@@m.n.7382 The DLSS from NVIDIA is just too good to pass. Until AMD offers something similar I won't consider an AMD GPU.
@@EarthIsFlat456 Until AMD offers working drivers :D
just cancel it, nvidia's bullshit shady business does not deserve it, give a shot to amd i am sure it will have same if not better perf at lower price
Do you have to keep msi afterburner running in the background to have this on 24/7? when are we getting a gpu bios haha
Nope. Once you save the curve to a profile and apply it you should be good to go.
@@Leaf_mp4 yay!
Fantastic video, especially considering the date published.
Would the decrease in wattage and thermal needs in the 3080 make it acceptable in an NZXH H1 build? (With stock 650w SFX)
Asus Rtx 3080 Gaming OC 10GB, undervolted and overclocked @0.900Mv, 1980Mhz, +300Mem, 62 degrees, 270max Watt draw.
wow very good card m8 it runs good ?
Would love to see a review on the P-ATX case!
P-atx???
@@mr.banana4178 It's a small form factor atx case
@@mr.banana4178 It is a 9 litres case that supports full sized GPU and an ATX form factor motherboard!
Second that
This is likely the best undervolting video on youtube, so thorough and compact. Insane production effort. I bought a second hand 3090 that was used to mine and undervolting is crucial for me.
Got an EVGA 3070 ftw3 Ultra and in games and benchmarks it stays under 65C with stock/automatic fan control, which makes the fan go up to around 40% maybe, I'm amazed!
Though to be fair, the hotspot, which NVIDIA and partners conveniently don't display, tends to be around 10C higher, but my fan controller picks it up so I set my case fans accordingly.
Wondering if undervolting would still make any sense for me...
I just got my 3090 ROG STRIX and I will undervolt it. I play in 5120x1440p, so I'll go for the 1850MHz. A good middle ground, as you showed.
Guys just don't forget, undervolt is sort of overclock, and there is still a dose of silicon lottery required. You might or might not get lucky.
I will try with my EVGA 3080 Ultra, I have a ITX NZXT 210 with just a 560 platinum PSU, so reducing consumtion will help me as mentioned with the thremals, hope the PSU will manage better as well as the electricity bill to be slightly lower :D
I strongly suspect that this is to do with how clean your input power is - if you have a higher voltage, then the noise will have less of an impact on stability.
I need to do some tests but in addition to undervolting I unlocked the power limit and clock the memory 1000 MHz higher without much difference in power
clocking the memory too high can result in lower performance since the gddr6x is error correcting
Memory overclock has no performance gain on these cards
Watching these videos is so enjoyable even though I can't afford the RTX3000 card..
Well you can't get one if you could afford it now anyways... My delivery has been moved 4 times already
@@ophatjb Thats' sad.. Hope you have at least something to play on till it arrives..
@@krishnachandranM Well I'll be fine with my 1080ti meanwhile :D
Don't worry, even if you had the money, it's almost impossible to get one
He reducido el 90% del coil whine con esto, muchas gracias! he dejado en 1750 mhz con 786mv la RTX 3080 gaming X trio :D
It’s dope not having the 2k rpm fan noise anymore but getting the same performance knowing it’s not gonna heat my room up in 10 minutes but still comfortably warm it up because it’s winter
After doing this my 3090 tops out at 68C running timespy benchmark while hovering between 1905-1980MHz
How? Undervolting like this would only get you +/- 15MHz in variance
@@Perodigdug probably hitting power limit…timespy will do that
5:03 "Now reduced power is cool and all"
I mean. Yeah.
I'm using a 2080ti so I followed his other video on the same topic. (1950/7300@0.900v) Much better thermal (avg. -10 degrees) and much more stable clock. The only sacrifice was an average of 3 FPS from 111 to 108 in the benchmarking.
Thanks man, was looking for this.
Where is the in depth link for undervolting with msiafterburner? 😩
ruclips.net/video/zUkPAVcb9Xc/видео.html
Alex Thanks!
videos i watch with the boys: 3090 overclocking battle
videos i watch alone:
When hitting the confirm button, which i believe you mean is enter. it only raises that one point not the whole curve
I had air con problems back in May, so I made my RTX 3090's summer mode 1600MHZ at 786. I found that's kind of the bottom out point, Any lower on voltage isn't stable, and any lower on clock doesn't reduce power consumption much. Once Afterburner malfunctioned and stuck at idle clock speed and the game still drew 80% the power of 1600(786).
Anyway, the AC is fixed and I'm running a nice cool 1800.
ali: here's the fan noise difference
me watching this video without headphones in the living room: i don't hear anything
What's the point? It's not like we can even get one of these cards, and the thing that pains me isn't the price but rather the stock supply.
Because the supply will increase and this concept will apply to all graphics cards anyway, only voltages differ.
@@jadoei13 it's been a month and there has basically been no new supply restocks, I don't even know how Nvidia has the guts to release the RTX 3070 (STILL NO OPTION TO PRE-ORDER) after this fiasco.
@@hanshc Yeah but this nearly always happens when great products are launched, it happened to the 3900X, 3950X, now it happens to the new Nvidia cards. Yes it is maybe worse this time but it'll get better, just wait another 2-3 months. Otherwise you could also just go big Navi and spread the demand a bit.
Well when people can get them, the video is already out. Thats pretty useful, having anything you wanna look up already there instead of waiting for people to do lots of testing.
lol stock will magically increase when AMD announces their cards. Nvidia being Nvidia as usual.
Great video as always! :) Unfortunately 786V at 1750MHz doesn't work for my system. I'm running the 3080 Fe in the ncase M1 and the rdr2 benchmark crashes midway.
(I adjusted the voltage/MHz curve at idle)
Hey man, thanks for another great video! I think you forgot to add the link to the undervolting tutorial - would love to check that out :)
Looks like the link is in description now
Realest reviewer in the game! Keep em coming brother!
Just under Steve Burke, but still as trustworthy. I go to Steve for the science, but Ali for practical application.
@@bluephreakr stephene burke* yes I agree but this channel is dedicated to ITX parts, cases and cooling. Anything revolving around that is what he deals with. Now I know the testing isnt 100% accurate but its +/- 2 degrees imo
@@moejazi Mate, it's Steve from Gamers Nexus
@@abdulmuhaimin5274 I know it is but his real name is Stephen burke.
Waiting for 3070 & 3060
Waiting for my 3090 to arrive...
Do you know at what time the rtx 3070 will release?
@@frederikmolenkamp1850 day is October 29th I believe, not sure on exact time in the day though
Mate, the RTX 3070 arrives at October 29th.
And RTX 3060, I don't know there has some rumors or leaks the budget GPU.
I'll wait till RTX 3070 comes up.
I look forward to trying this out tonight. 370W is a bit much IMO, which is what my card runs at stock (Palit GameRock OC).
I had same card i will try doing it
Best Post ever !!! Like your work ! Undervolted my Eagle RTX 3070 860mv@1860Mhz 10 Degrees less in my H210i , greetings from Switzerland ;)
I don't understand if this is so obvious and beneficial to do why card makers don't do it out of the box?
Was wondering the same 🤔
@@rangegod98 There must be a negative trade off with this he hasn't identified. Card stability? Longevity of components?
Because their cards need to run perfect all the time for years to come. Furthermore silicon quality differences also matter, one gpu might be able to run 20mV lower than another. And as the gpu ages it might need slightly more voltage to be stable and they don't want their gpu's all starting to crash after a couple of years. Instead they just give it some extra voltage and that ensures it will never crash no matter what.
They don't have the time to stability test every gpu, just shipping it with the voltage required for the worst gpu die is cheaper, but yes that does mean that you can nearly always lower the stock voltage a bit to save some power, CO2 emissions and noise.
Edit: AMD did actually bother with this for their Radeon VII, they had wildly different stock voltages. You can find some examples in this community spread sheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Iim9e_ejX3nkgxLIZ3vLu1seQ1m0lDTKUhClJpAO-Gk/edit#gid=0
@@jadoei13 thanks buddy!
@@jadoei13 Makes sense. Be good if Nvidia had some auto tune software that sets the lowest voltage possible for your particular card without impacting performance. The power and temp benefits could be huge for so many people.
Early gang
Just get a 3080 instead of 3090, as 3090 is a waste. I'd wait for the 3080 20gb vram.
Really?
Only useful for workstation.. and they don't really advertised that so well.. higher bandwidth is something professional need.
@@abdulmuhaimin5274 they might release different vram models of the cards
@@donttakeitpersonalnowalrig1326 only for professionals, not for gaming
For my 3080 FE Stable undervolt clocks are a straight line. Starting from 700mv and 1600MHz to 900mv and 2000Mhz. I can get +/-15Mhz no problem. Anything above 825mv/1850Mhz is actually better then Stock in Port Royale. 700mv/1600Mhz was only 195W in Port Royale and "only" 12% less fps or 1200 (9979) less points compared to stock.
Still actual Wattage is different for each Application. With my 775mv/1740Mhz UV Port Royale uses 245W while SW:Squadrens on 4k while downscaling to 1080p and everything else on max uses ~277W. It's not finished yet...still waiting for my Thermalpads, to cool the Ram Hotspot with the backplate. And I need to install my 3 new Noctua A12x25.
The FE on 900mv and 2000Mhz gets 81°C hot, after a few runs...no stresstest -.- My Case is the Define R6 with stock Fans
Could you consider doing a high-budget build guide for either the FormD T1 or Ncase M1?