@@Derek2k Yeah, I don't know how anyone could actually feel that way. You can like Arsonal's style better, but in terms of battling, Okwerdz was much more direct, and in my opinion, won because of that.
@magusofthemoon what okwerdz was talking about at the beginning of his first round is why people dont like ars. They set hollow up and switched his opponent up last minute so he wasn't prepared and didnt have writtens for arsonal. Okwerdz said they tried to do it him too and in the battle against Pat Stay of king of the dot, he tried to change the time limit and shit during the battle.
I'm from Jersey and a huge Ars fan, but Okwerdz won clearly ONLY because of the material he had against Arsonal. All three of Arsonal's rounds could have been said in any battle against anyone. Okwerdz delivery was wack though. All he did was yell and had no creativity at all in my opinion. Not to mention his home crowd kind of saved him. If they didn't react after every time he yelled 75% of everyone's opinion here would be different.
"the crowd was biased, I would have won if it wasn't for those lousy white kids" this was said by Okwerdz round 1... and he got a crowd reaction like it was the dopest line in 2009 lmao
Javier Mercado arsonal has said much dumber / more irrelevant shit than that and got reaction. he has almost no content. he just gets reaction for his flow and projection.
McGill Hall Arsonal yells weak basic shit in most of his battles. Ars has the trademark on weak material but rapped well. He's been fooling fans into thinking he's good for years.
@ZacksGiants no, thats not what battling is about at all. its basically you just go all out to display who's better lyrically it doesnt matter how much gunplay wordplay creativity agression delivery or personals its all that roled into 1 and in the end someone comes out on top
"If he were gay jada wouldnt even give u a kiss" .. arsenal you da man but that line? Take that L bro .. get it? Im jone bones wit the rhymes so all you get is elbows - done deal lol
@@JAYJAYBEBE the fact you think okweirdo corny ass was dope is unbelievable! Ars is a fukin legend ! Lmaooo fuk you talking bout ! You like 5, 6 years late my guy!
NOBODY could of beat Okwerdz on this day. Easily one of the best performances in battle rap. You haters disgust me, honestly. Okwerdz undeniably went the fuck in.. FACE IT!
I'm not even here to tell you who I think won... Cause in all honestly, it has nothing to do with a matter of opinion. Almost every punch OK threw was a haymaker, and nine out of ten landed! This was a beat down. A side from that, I still like Arsonal, he's dope. Regardless of who won, this is in my opinion, the single best battle ever. Shit was heated, crowd was dope, they both brought their A game and this was OK's debut into the top tier battle world. Classic!
This is how a Battle should sound like. If you spit your Mixtape Verses, you're an opportunist. You just want to win, you're not taking it to the next level. (Rolling Eyes) These Amateurs.
This was the first grind time battle I ever watched. I remember thinking Okwerdz was the goat 😂. He made it hard to listen to the gun bars at the time he kinda changed battle rap back then.
U heard what ars said "I from the east and cali niggas look up 2 us" thats real talk all the best rappers come from the east battle or mainstream hip hop started in the east
So this is where the whole coast division was rejuvenated. You could talk about who won or whatever, but look where these battlers are now, and you'll see who's the more substantial one.
URL crowds mainly like gun bars and can be biased but really most crowds are about schemes, word play, & actual bars...gun lines are cool if it's done right but that doesn't happen too often...the crowd showed love to Ars so how can you say they were biased?
@truGAkilla Ya said, spread, read do rhyme, its a single syllable rhyme outta a cat in the hat book...that any 12yr hood on the cormer can come up with.IMO..And I understand all the stuff he was talking about like"they stole our slang, now they want our gang names too" and all the bars about Grape St (I live in Vegas so I am familiar wit S Cali)...But IMO a battle is suppose to be about creativity, lyricism, wordplay, MULTI-syllable rhymes, punchlines, and rebuttles, not jus true statements
i reckon ok deserves all his wins. his delivary is real good, and his lines are real good, and he got character and style. his voice is distinctive. thats all you need to be good i think.
The issue was that Ars didn't bring a Grind Time style to the battle and he got smoked for it. Ars was using a SMACK format... that don't work in the Cali... so he lost.
I can't believe the crowd went "wheeeww"....on that captain planet line....LMAO....The "grape vine" line was dope....but aside from that the crowd seems to jus scream and cheer eveyrtime Ok finishes with a scream....Ars took it, no doubt
@brownone75 Did Arsonal have any personals on Okwerdz? No, nothing, zip, notta, garbage. Did Okwerdz have personals on Ars? Yes, brutal ones at that. This is a battle rap, not a cypher session. In a battle, you come with personals, right? No offense, but I don't think YOU have battled or spit a verse in your life! And who cares if you did, it only counts if you got bars.
This is a true Battle. This ain't studio Rapping. This was really a true Battle. Okwerdz really defeated Arsonal. And this is not an opinion. THIS IS A FACT!!
Both rappers r at least solid and either could be called great pending on your preference. Solid Battle that was passionate. I give it to Arsonal though due to a lil more consistency in his bars. Okwerdz was emotional but most of that stuff had no skills to it and wasn't really anything personal either. Don't know how he wins without hardly any personals or tough bars in Rd 1 at least. Arsonal 2-1 #TeamHiddenGems
After much internal debate, I'll hand this battle to Okwerdz. He should still try rapping away from home once in a while. As an aside: If there's a God, He should have Lush set up a battle between Arsonal and Soul Khan.
Anyone else binge watching old Grind Time battles?
2022!
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Absolutely 🎉🥳 2022
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Okwerdz best performance, ever.
Ars won
@@Derek2k FACT'S
Nah his best performance was against Hollow and Hollow my favorite!
Facts
@@Derek2k Yeah, I don't know how anyone could actually feel that way. You can like Arsonal's style better, but in terms of battling, Okwerdz was much more direct, and in my opinion, won because of that.
I remember waiting in the online lobby with everyone for this battle to drop. This was historic, and opened the doors for every other battle like it.
Okwerds rounds aged bad
@magusofthemoon what okwerdz was talking about at the beginning of his first round is why people dont like ars. They set hollow up and switched his opponent up last minute so he wasn't prepared and didnt have writtens for arsonal. Okwerdz said they tried to do it him too and in the battle against Pat Stay of king of the dot, he tried to change the time limit and shit during the battle.
Im from Cali and Okwerdz sounds like a middle school rapper Ars all day
Yeah I agree man. The delivery is so wack and forced.
I said it when this battle dropped 4 years ago. Arsenal wins for consistence and flow. Okwerdz wins for his hard hitting personal attack.
This is Hella old bro
@@unclebizz9522 You realize he commented on this 5 years ago right? His comment is valid 😂😂😂
Okwerdz just catered to the west coast niggas and got their support. He's not good he just yells a lot and gets reactions for the simplest lines
not about jokes, not about being funny, its about flow and how well u can put together your words.
okwerdz was refering to the real tech nine not the battle rapper tech n9ne
Okwerdz has to be the worst aged battler. Going back and watching these old battles of his are so cringe
Agreed. Absolutely terrible.
Dam yall still hatin on Okwerdz if u really think hes that bad y u still watchin his old battled from 09??
Jay Goon right !! let's be real.. we sure ain't come here for arsonal... Ars not that good
@@5minsoffame63 What?! I came here for Ars! Ars is a BEAST! Don't know what battles you been watching.
Arsonal
To see ars dumbass 😂
See Rone vs awkward
Okwerdz killed him
Okwerds.....took that Shit....Hands Down......NUFF SAID
10K.......Records
@BabiiOfBaBaKidz what does buying the dvds do?
Wow. Ars was pulling last minute changes even back then just like against illmac. Pathetic.
I'm from Jersey and a huge Ars fan, but Okwerdz won clearly ONLY because of the material he had against Arsonal. All three of Arsonal's rounds could have been said in any battle against anyone. Okwerdz delivery was wack though. All he did was yell and had no creativity at all in my opinion. Not to mention his home crowd kind of saved him. If they didn't react after every time he yelled 75% of everyone's opinion here would be different.
"the crowd was biased, I would have won if it wasn't for those lousy white kids" this was said by Okwerdz round 1... and he got a crowd reaction like it was the dopest line in 2009 lmao
Javier Mercado arsonal has said much dumber / more irrelevant shit than that and got reaction. he has almost no content. he just gets reaction for his flow and projection.
@@Londonguy1987_facts ars is wack
Funny when Okwerdz at 6:05 said "it's going to be a lot easier than I thought"
I'm like..for real?!! U just got fucking served
Facts I said the same thing
OHHH OOOOOO ANGRY WHITE MAN AT 3:02
Someone please! What is the Name/Artist of that very first song?
Dang 9 years and no one answered
Arsonal killed okwerdz ... okwerdz did alot of yelling to be saying weak basic shit
McGill Hall Arsonal yells weak basic shit in most of his battles. Ars has the trademark on weak material but rapped well. He's been fooling fans into thinking he's good for years.
@@jraymond1988 Arsonal’s a legend. Still relevant to this day & beating some the worlds best.
@@jraymond1988 Arsonal was 10x more lyrical, and actually had flow and better jokes. Tf are you talking about you fucking clown?! Ars won this shit.
i think this , hitman and charron r arsonals only losses. Key word "I" , meaning my damn opinion.
U think arsonal beat clipse?
Alex Simon he won the first and edged the third round, so yes
Malik Jiggetts very true if clips came 100 he wudda won imo but he came with weak material
Malik Jiggetts very true if clips came 100 he wudda won imo but he came with weak material
dannym8 Clips 3-0'd Arsonal. Ars mainly had filler. He even rapped twice as long in the 3rd round and didn't say half as much.
Okwerdz is gas
@ZacksGiants no, thats not what battling is about at all. its basically you just go all out to display who's better lyrically it doesnt matter how much gunplay wordplay creativity agression delivery or personals its all that roled into 1 and in the end someone comes out on top
I cant judge this man... Okwerdz came out spittin that good fire... He came for blood but Ars showed the crowd why he's a legend
Are you high? This is one of the best performances in GrindTime history. Ok straight up DESTROYED Ars, end of story. Goddamn haters.....
Boy you lying to yourself 😅😅😅😅
U gotta be smoking crack fam. Okwerdz is straight bunz!!!!! Lol
I feel as if okwerdz is hella coked out
"If he were gay jada wouldnt even give u a kiss" .. arsenal you da man but that line? Take that L bro .. get it? Im jone bones wit the rhymes so all you get is elbows - done deal lol
Khali Khalidad lol
Khali Khalidad it's a name flip, it's light, more of a transition bar to a bigger haymaker
Who's the guy that always rocks the pig tails? does he have any cred at all? or is he there just to look like a goofball?
@PopetaKing06 that was the point there is a difference between recycling and REFERENCING something Ars recycled AN ENTIRE VERSE
ars killed this dude oh my god !!!
@@JAYJAYBEBE the fact you think okweirdo corny ass was dope is unbelievable! Ars is a fukin legend !
Lmaooo fuk you talking bout !
You like 5, 6 years late my guy!
Ars killed him!
lol
Don't really watch Grind Time but I like some of the Freestyle Battle Rappers on here.
His Rex battle came after this one when he called Rex out. He wasn't recycling, he was referencing.
@Oallright Yes. Florida and NY I know. I sure he's battled a lot more places than that.
what is this about changing hollow's opponent in fight klub, who was he meant to battle?
@Most1ntrigued exactly. okwerdz disses are almost always personal, and very little filler bars
WHATS THE NAME OF THE SONG AT THE BEGINNING??
I got you. That's Plex Rock. Nasty ass MC from the Bay. Never really paid dues in battles but when it comes to bars on beats, he's a savage.
Classic battle still surprised they fuck with each other outside battle rap cuz all the tension they had.
okwerdz is referring to the kansas lyricist tech nine not the battle rapper tech nine
@HavahdYahdHahrry Math, Cortez, DNA and many others never left NY to battle. And for the record, OK went to NY to battle Rone.
@kemomaphela its not necesaraly what is in the bar but on the delivery his delivery is agressive and that what gets the reaction
What is the song in the beginning? Sounds so fucking dope!!!!!!!!!!
@AceFace200 how many times did arsonal touch his nose?
NOBODY could of beat Okwerdz on this day. Easily one of the best performances in battle rap. You haters disgust me, honestly. Okwerdz undeniably went the fuck in.. FACE IT!
I haven’t seen this battle in at least 10 years goodness gracious
I'm not even here to tell you who I think won... Cause in all honestly, it has nothing to do with a matter of opinion. Almost every punch OK threw was a haymaker, and nine out of ten landed! This was a beat down. A side from that, I still like Arsonal, he's dope. Regardless of who won, this is in my opinion, the single best battle ever. Shit was heated, crowd was dope, they both brought their A game and this was OK's debut into the top tier battle world. Classic!
This is how a Battle should sound like. If you spit your Mixtape Verses, you're an opportunist. You just want to win, you're not taking it to the next level. (Rolling Eyes) These Amateurs.
Man, i forgot how bad Ok beat Arsonal... This was definitely Ok's best performance.
i dont need to see the second anyway, already know who won.
Has Ok ever battled outside Cali?
Pretty equal, Ars is tight as hell, and he's my fav on grintime and fight klub, but OK brought his game too. But Ars took it.
What slang does east coast steal from the west?
"The East Coast already took our slag, now they want our GANG NAMES TOO!?!?!" never have I heard a realer bar in my whole life ever.
This was the first grind time battle I ever watched. I remember thinking Okwerdz was the goat 😂. He made it hard to listen to the gun bars at the time he kinda changed battle rap back then.
@popp1nbottlez That's not the entire crowd that's just his boys...a few people sayin "oooo."
@alfredunhill its on youtube
What is this battle based on? Freestyling off the dome or having the best bars point blank? Somebody tell me.
@micheal1013 didnt quest bite head ice's head off a few months back?
im usually not a fan of okwerds but he came with it this time..respect!
somebody needs to make a video of the best "put you in a box" lines
Okwerdz used practically the same Captain Planet recycling line in his battle with T Rex on URL
@PlatinumBD personals are still more relevant and will most likely get the crowd more hyped.
whats the intro music?
U heard what ars said "I from the east and cali niggas look up 2 us" thats real talk all the best rappers come from the east battle or mainstream hip hop started in the east
whats a filler? sorry im learning more about the battle scenes
@Smiley41121 Well they're in Cali right? Of course they'll get hyped of they're dude. That's just the way it is usually.
I like oukwardz aggressive voice tho they both killed it but ars was a bit iller tho
WHY HE ONLY BATTLE IN WESTCOAST DOH?
Arsonal- Roast ppl nd basic bars dat apply 2 anybody
Okwerdz-raps nothn but personals
Hollow Da Don-Nice punchlines, personals, nd freestyles
Hitman Holla-Nice punchlines sumwat personals nd story tellin
Conceited-Punchline afta punchline afta punchline nd uses name
Rich Dollaz-Clever punchlines nd bars
Yung ILL-Witty Punchlines
DNA-Nice punchlines nd spit real shit
Tech 9-Simple nd funny ass bars
In high school you was a class clown,a shadow in the background,who raps now and drink beers with his hash browns.
So this is where the whole coast division was rejuvenated. You could talk about who won or whatever, but look where these battlers are now, and you'll see who's the more substantial one.
@Wrdz288 where in Jersey? Prolly Edison or Atco or some shit
URL crowds mainly like gun bars and can be biased but really most crowds are about schemes, word play, & actual bars...gun lines are cool if it's done right but that doesn't happen too often...the crowd showed love to Ars so how can you say they were biased?
@truGAkilla Ya said, spread, read do rhyme, its a single syllable rhyme outta a cat in the hat book...that any 12yr hood on the cormer can come up with.IMO..And I understand all the stuff he was talking about like"they stole our slang, now they want our gang names too" and all the bars about Grape St (I live in Vegas so I am familiar wit S Cali)...But IMO a battle is suppose to be about creativity, lyricism, wordplay, MULTI-syllable rhymes, punchlines, and rebuttles, not jus true statements
i reckon ok deserves all his wins. his delivary is real good, and his lines are real good, and he got character and style. his voice is distinctive. thats all you need to be good i think.
was Arsonal going off the head the whole battle ?
arsonal is from newark i live a train ride away from there, Its in new jersey but it was ranked the most dangerous place in america.
he's the guy who's always co -hosting, i never catch his name tho
@Yanirakarola The PERSONALS are the best lines when it comes down to FREESTYLING!!
that looks like a huge venue theyre in
DAM!! he said "ur an unmoved bowel, u aint shit ur constipation" lmaooo
I guess we must have different definitions of what "in the zone" mean
@TheSirMittens it was in 2009
Round 1 goes to Arsonal, nobody can dispute that.
I like OK too, but this round was all Arsonal.
Who still watching in 2020?
The issue was that Ars didn't bring a Grind Time style to the battle and he got smoked for it. Ars was using a SMACK format... that don't work in the Cali... so he lost.
I can't believe the crowd went "wheeeww"....on that captain planet line....LMAO....The "grape vine" line was dope....but aside from that the crowd seems to jus scream and cheer eveyrtime Ok finishes with a scream....Ars took it, no doubt
does ockwerdz ever battle outside of cali..like seriously.
Hold up... Did Arsenal say he doesnt know who Crooked I is at the end? c'mon son.
Okwerdz one and only win lol. New jersey drive.... Whoa! Gang names too.... Sheesh
@brownone75 Did Arsonal have any personals on Okwerdz? No, nothing, zip, notta, garbage. Did Okwerdz have personals on Ars? Yes, brutal ones at that. This is a battle rap, not a cypher session. In a battle, you come with personals, right? No offense, but I don't think YOU have battled or spit a verse in your life! And who cares if you did, it only counts if you got bars.
This is a true Battle. This ain't studio Rapping. This was really a true Battle. Okwerdz really defeated Arsonal. And this is not an opinion. THIS IS A FACT!!
I don't even like Okwerdz at all, but I would put his personals over Arsonal's random fillers any day of the week. Okwerdz 3-0.
Roscoe Smith ur smart
Both rappers r at least solid and either could be called great pending on your preference. Solid Battle that was passionate. I give it to Arsonal though due to a lil more consistency in his bars. Okwerdz was emotional but most of that stuff had no skills to it and wasn't really anything personal either. Don't know how he wins without hardly any personals or tough bars in Rd 1 at least. Arsonal 2-1 #TeamHiddenGems
After much internal debate, I'll hand this battle to Okwerdz. He should still try rapping away from home once in a while.
As an aside: If there's a God, He should have Lush set up a battle between Arsonal and Soul Khan.
I'm here after the angryfan interview with charron!!
@4:26
am from the east and west look up to us. watch plex reaction
The West got this one, Okwerdz killed em!!!