Fun story. Built a PC for a friend. Upgraded same thing a bit later and friend settled for a used 6800XT (I ordered one for each of us from Ebay, mine was the Power Color Red Devil and his, the ASUS TUF Gaming OC. Only reason it landed like that was the ASUS came in first.) Other interesting piece of info, both our Motherboards were identical: Asus x570 Tuf Gaming plus Wifi. Initially no issues, but over time and with newer games, his PC started behaving oddly. Start a game (Helldivers/Avatar/Robocop/Cyberpunk) and it will run for a bit, no temp issues other than his GPU hotspot was warmer than mine while doing the same things with the fan profiles identical, never overheated, but then the screen would go black and the PC would hang (determined later it was rebooting but no display would appear until a full power cycle was done). Traded him GPU's since my Red Devil was working flawlessly. Now his Red Devil is working flawlessly and "my" Asus did all the same things. Turns out a GPU Bios Update, then a final full purge (DDU) of the Radeon drivers fixed the issue very well. Always remember that other components have BIOS too.... I'd ddu'd the drivers before and that provided some relief periodically with driver updates (I'm not totally ignorant, I really just didn't want to take out my Red Devil 😁)
I also have ASUS TUF 6800XT drove me crazy for more than a week until I updated the GPU bios. Turns out the old bios got some compatibility issues with Ryzen CPUs.
@@AncientGameplays well, after the bios update, I'm running this thing at 2700mhz gpu and 2100mhz mem clocks, at 1050 mV underclock and it's stable as a rock, buuut there is a wee bit of coil whine starting at about 1200rpm on the middle fan on the gpu...I used to run an MSI Evoke 5700xt OC...I've had worse 😁
@@AncientGameplays It is seldem that GPU's have a bios update. Normally that is only if there is a big issue! You will normally never be able to update GPU bioses. You are able to find almost all of them on TPU they have a big bios catalog to download. But in my experience it happens maybe once or twice in 100 releases like with the last 4080 super from MSI where MSI screwed up with their ventus X2 if i am right. But that is as said very unusual to happen.
A lot of very good info here Fabio. Well done and thank you for going over these things in this revisit. One tip I would like to add is that some Radeon users have reported that they are getting various crashes on their 7900 XTX (including myself on my Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XTX). After an undervolt it helped, but I along with many others have traced AMD Noise Supression as being the issue. After disabling this in Adrenaline and at startup in task manager this has gotten rid of all my crashes. Just something to keep in mind if any users that are having further issues After these tips.
This will be the new video I send people when they have questions or issues. I would add optimize your settings in games. Everyone thinks they have to play on ULTRA. I didn't know about the OC Stability test software. Really great video. So underrated. Again, thanks for the time and work.
I run a 6800 XT and can tell you for a fact that DDU will save you a lot of headache. I had one time where upgrading drivers or even installing outright would just uninstall the old drivers and crash on update. Ran DDU and it installed correctly immediately.
😂😂 hell nooo AMD is shit never buying a AMD card again. Got a 4090 and have no issues with drivers it just works. Amd on the other hand 😂😂. Me and my mate ours cards back with in a week. Just use it for a paper weight.
@@laforge4525 they will still be shit mate amd has only had 15 years to pull your finger out. 5080 😂 that will never happen. Even if it did a 3070 would stick kick it's ass.
This happened to me a while back, I had issues with my ram and Call of Duty Cold War. Game would crash giving me a "outdated graphics driver" or "update your graphics driver" kind of message, happen to me for the longest time. I tried reinstalling/updating drivers, chipsets, bios, windows itself. I even bought a brand new kit of ram at one point but the issue persisted. Eventually with the help of some much smarter people i tried upping the dram voltage just a hair which helped stopped my game from crashing. It was nice to see that tip in your video as it was the solution to my problem a handful of months ago. Stay fabulous Fabio ❤ Edit: I was using xmp at 3200mhz for my system. Upping the dram voltage a hair stopped the issue.
This MPO thing really helped me. After a week of research, I was about to smash my head in with a rock because I couldn't figure out why my screen was flickering when using the browser and GPU-intensive programs, but only on Windows. I changed monitors, bought new cables, bought a new power supply, switched ports, reinstalled Windows with full formatting and tried different versions of drivers - nothing helps. But somehow I ended up on one of your videos about MPO, and as soon as I turned it off, the problem went away. Trully a Savior - Fabio Pisco
Speaking of Chipset Drivers, AMD has new ones as of March 13th. They have bug fixes for the PSP and SFH drivers. I would not have checked had you not mentioned chipset drivers.
Great video! Only issue I ever had was my AMD chipset drivers were too old and caused issues with newer Adrenalin releases. Updated chipset from the AMD site, thanks to your recommendation, then reinstalled Adrenalin with DDU, no issues since.
Dang you were spot on with addressing the Nvidia fanboys early on. Scrolling down I can't believe how many there are. I've used roughly the same amount of Nvidia cards in the past 13 years as I have AMD cards and sometimes I forget how brand-loyal some persons can be. I am mostly friends with tech nerds that build their own PCs, and I find that, anyone that takes this stuff seriously generally doesn't fall for brand wars. It's bubble-breaking to see that demographic lol. I'm always looking at every brand for the best deals, and preparing myself for every brand. If I get an AMD card, I'd prepare myself to minimize early-launch driver faults. If I get an Nvidia card, I'd prepare myself to avoid complete GPU failure. If I get an Intel card, I'd make sure I don't use it for DX9-11 games, and probably put it in a productivity rig to min-max it. I can't imagine what I'd need to remove from myself to be willing to feverishly fight for any of these 3 brands. They'd have to pay me to do it lol.
yeah I had 2 Nvidia GPU's back to back randomly die on me out of nowhere. I never overclocked them or anything. I went AMD recently and couldn't be happier. Nvidia fanboys I noticed like to really over dramatize the smallest issue for AMD. When Nvidia is just as guilty with their own issues.
I have a really old, well built Antec Pure Power from back in the day, and after I retired it, it has saved many friends and family members out of binds, until they replaced their failed PSUs. I run Super flower and EVGA Supernova 850w in all of our LAN PCs, and they're worth it.
Btw, jokes or anything aside 80% of these stuff would also work for some RTX issues (so as not to say that only AMD suffers from such problems). These are common and real problems that people not familiar with the GPU-stuff (i.e. ordinary mortals) do not know.
I'm having weird flickers and screen flashing black in browser on my 1660 super. Also sometimes the nvidia overlay just doesn't work (without rebooting pc) , and I've lost a lot of clips due to it. I find amds custom color way more intuitive than nvidia game filters as well. And I have recently started using Radeon chill as a frame limiter by setting minimum fps same as maximum. Love the amd performance overlay because I don't have to bother with RTSS and msi afterburner
Thanks for your Work. For disable "Enabled ULPS" there is no need for MS Afterburner. Open as Admin "Regedit" over the Windows Search. Then use the Search Option in the Program and search "ULPS" (Not ULPS NA) then change the Value from 1 to 0. Restart the System. Its done. No need for 3rd Party Software. As with Anti-Lag, one could have mentioned that it is generally recommended to activate the driver features in the Adrenalin software only for the respective game profile, never globally. I think when Anti-Lag + is back it will be time for a new edition of an overview of the functions and features of the Adrenalin software!
Excellent video that all people should watch! Keep up the great work! I have to add this. For the chipset drivers, you have to disable windows from downloading them automatically because they are buggy. Download them ONLY by the manufacturer (ASUS, ASRock, MSI etc) or in my case by AMD itself. Additionally, you can use the AMD Cleanup Utility (in safe mode) to remove anything that has to do with drivers and install new ones. This solved my issues with black screens, drivers stopping and starting again etc...
Fanboys saying nvidia have better drivers and don't have that much problem compared to AMD. Then why the hell does Fifa not launch when using 3060 but works without a problem when using the 6600xt? It's like women saying that all men are the same after making bad decisions after bad decisions.
Didn't understand why smart memory access is showing not supported. Compared mb driver ver. with amd one and saw 2 year difference. Updated chipset from amd and smart memory access is finaly supported and enabled! Thank you sir! Solved so many issue after viewing your vids!
Awesome video!! There's a ton of good information here. One thing I did find is that on older systems, say Ryzen 9 3900x/B550/RX 5700 XT. Is one of the latest Updates for that system leaning toward the chipset or Bios(maybe still checking). Causes wild behavior with the GPU, Power spikes, black screen, system locking, just really weird stuff. Have you tested any of them lately? If so did you find anything weird? Either way nice job and keep up the great work. Till the next one, Enjoy.
To any new veiwers his videos help a ton i spam watched them a year ago when setting up my amd shit and it was all the knowledge i needed to continue to keep my amd hardware smooth and stutterless, thanks man
The only problem I had with AMD was when I updated BIOS & reinstalled windows to use R5 5600 but didn't know I need to install chipset driver ASAP. And it led to my GPU can't contact the CPU thru PCI.E that makes the fans didn't spin even reaching 90 temp xD. After installing chipset driver, everything's back to normal and works perfectly!
Great and comprehensive video with no BS talk! My cheesy rx 5600 xt runs my battlefields without issues so far. Another good general tip might be to disable the windows control flow guard ("CFG") for specific (esp DX12) games to eliminate stutter (AMD and NVIDIA). Disable high precision event timer (HPET) might give a hand full of FPS depending on the Graphics (AMD and NVIDIA)/CPU Hardware . BTW: I will disable MPO, like you said, just in case..
imho DDU is a must for correct driver installation. I used it with gtx 1080, rx 6700 xt and now I use it with rtx 4070S. Never had driver related issues with any of these cards.
On my last NV card (2080ti) I just upgraded the drivers without DDU or uninstalling for 2+ years straight. Went to a 7900XT a month ago and I've already had to DDU 3 times after a clean Windows install...
I have used ddu several times but I only get issues and trouble with that. I will avoid DDU now. The Problems only getting worse mostly when I tried them for troubleshooting
You have been the most helpful ever, I have looked at forums, Google, anything you can imagine and this has been by far the most helpful video for me. I also have a 7900xtx with an amd cpu and these top 20 tips to fix helped so much. I have been trying for 2 days straight and nothing has worked. I watched the whole video wrote down each thing and crossed them off the list as I went.
I'm not a fan boy by no means. Hell, I'm 53. I'm all about getting the most for my money. I prefer AMD for both GPUs and CPUs simply because of the ability to tweak and optimize for each game or application in running. My friends are shocked by the performance of my pc. It's also much easier to find the balance needed with AMD. It is nice to see some of these big Tech channels start talking about a balanced system and how it's more important than FPS.
One thing that helped me and I didn't see advised anywhere: RESEAT YOUR RAM! My rig had massive problems with AMD Driver crashes on nearly every card I put on it until I took one of the modules out, tested it, and put it back again. No other noticeable issues and this alone fixed things. I hate computers sometimes.
I've been an nvidia person for a long time, but recently bought a 7900XT. This video is pure gold for someone like me who knows nothing about AMD. Thank you!
Fabio you legend!! I've had issues with an ultrawide using AMD cards resulting in black screens for over 5 years when changing resolution or switching from full screen games.. Nothing I've tried changed a thing - thought I'd give the disabling ULPS a try.... it worked!! Can't believe it. Thanks so much for this video and all your efforts!
Im AMD user for 10+ years, and never had money for newest gpu-s, always buying used last gen models, and i watched 1000s of videos of improving gpu performance, not once did someome mention disabling mpo! Thank you, amazing work
After using gtx1060 for over 5 years i moved onto AMD and i can say that the amd adrenaline is an awesome piece of software. I know i't snot fair to compare the old nvidia software against newer amd one, but even with the gtx i ran in some issues. I loved my gtx card, but it was getting old, so i'm not biased in terms of brand. I just look for the best value on the market.
Some superb advice here Fabio. When I was first building my own systems I did infact get a cheaper PSU and it did pretty much what your clip did and popped like popcorn. Fortunately didn't take anything else with it and from that day I build a PC starting with a quality PSU. And with the price of components now it's not worth the risk. I also like to have a bit more than I need to give it some headroom to prevent the PSU going to it's limit frequently so if I need a 600w i'll get 800w etc.
Thank you so much bro! My solution was the MSI Afterburners ULPS :D I already tried everything, was so worried, i love my setup so i really didn't want to restore any overclock to default. Thanx again, you saved me from more head banging to the wall :D
I had a lot of issues with my RX 7600 since I bought it: bsod every 10/15 minutes after starting a game, games crashing or closing randomly but frequently... Until I simply updated the chipset and bios of my mobo. Not a single issue in the past 3 days (and using stock configs).
Strong work, I'm happy to see you going more in depth for some of the other issues inexperienced users might not know how to navigate. As an older builder, I thought this was great.
I just swapped my rx5700 from a gigabyte Aorus to an MSI A Pro and for some reason it keeps resetting from default (which allows fan control to stop the fans) to custom where the GPU fan runs all the time and it's really pissing me off! I'll have a look throught these fixes, thanks for your amazing videos dude, I wish my brain worked differently sometimes, but not all lol, have a fun day! ;D
Done all that, only thing that worked was Fast Boot. Thankfully I don't have that card anymore, junction temp nightmare! Have the 7800XT now.@@AncientGameplays
i'm new to PC building and didn't know how big of a headache updating BIOS was. now i have to buy a pen drive which is of older version and also not more than 16 GB just to update my BIOS. Anyway your video was very helpful cuz i built a new PC couple of months ago and i've been struggling with flickering, game crashing etc. now i understand why and i can solve my issues. thank you, good sir.
I still have issues with this game as well. I have a 7900XTX Taichi and have used the "chill" locked my frames to 60 and have every setting in game on low or off and it still crashes. Fresh driver and chipset. Our 7900XTX's do not like that game atm lol. Great video and tips!!!
What a great video! I didn't knew about the MSI ULPS option for AMD, i was wondering if there was an option to stop limiting the card, now i can finally tell my friend to do this with his RX 6600 8GB i've recommended, plus he is loving to study computer hardware + basic programming on a presential course from Portugal too. The GPU upgrade example you gave is exactly what i did, GTX 1060 6GB -> RTX 4060 8GB, it has been a wonderful experience, the only blue screens i've seem are related to memory, maybe the XMP to 2666 (yeah, it's this old) wasn't great back then.
As an owner of a 4090 FE and a 7900XTX (sapphire nitro AND a reference model) I can say that I had way more driver issues last year on the 4090 than I did on my AMD cards. The January drivers for AMD was the first one in 2 years (all the way from a 6800XT) that I had any issues with. The driver stuff for AMD is massively overblown at this point and unless you're talking to someone who actually owns both brands or owns the cards, don't bother listening.
I have a rx570 and r5 2400g. Before, running cs2, it would drop to like 40 fps when there are too many things happening (I had all my drivers stuck on 2022 cus i stopped using my pc since then, when i finally hop back on my pc; updated to 24.1.1 instantly without uninstalling my drivers with ddu) , but then I clean installed my gpu drivers and updated the chipset driver. Now it is running around 100-120 fps with sometimes dropping to 90. I also disabled ULPS. It's a life saver really. Also thinking of installing radeon id drivers but I'm unsure about it as i have an ryzen 5 2400g as my cpu which is unsupported for the smart access memory, but nonetheless this video was super helpful. Thanks !! Love your contents man quick update - it is running any games way better than what it used to with very little drops in fps compared to before
JUST UPGRADED FROM A 3070TI TO A 7900XT AND IM VERY HAPPY THE CARD IS A BEAST ! BUT IM STILL LEARNING ALL THE STUFF IN THE AMD SETTINGS SO THANKS FOR THE VID
I really appreciate you talking about the chipset driver because go to Asus to update so I went to AMD this time and wow I found a lot of drivers that were out-of-date
This is some great content thank you. I've always done a clean install, just took to much time, been more than a year now that I've been updating through adrenaline and no issues ever, amd does a very good job of uninstalling the old drivers, registry entries and so on. Instead of ulps i just create a custom profile under tuning for the game that idles my gpu, only a few older games mind you, then just bump the minimum frequency higher, problem solved. Got the tip from some of your older videos.
Impeccable video as always, very clear and direct. In my experience, I'm not a fanboy of any brand; I usually buy whatever gives me the best performance for my budget. Currently, I'm happy with a 5700X that I upgraded not long ago, and I'm planning to upgrade to a 5800X3D. However, I had several issues with my 6700XT GPU, which were resolved when I switched to Nvidia. Some problems occurred in Windows, RUclips, simply browsing, random restarts, stuttering in games, and even issues while working with Illustrator, etc. Upon purchasing a 3080 Ti, I stopped experiencing all kinds of problems (I had already ruled out that it was a physical problem with my 6700XT). Although the overall performance of my former AMD card was very good for what I paid, the issues I encountered outweighed the benefits. Anyway, this is just my experience. Regards!
Just wanna let this comment here for people with the 7000 series. The RX 7600 and 7800XT, especially those models that come overclocked, are absolutely horrible for gaming. Big stuttering, trash frame times, and low fps. All I had to do on my 7600 to finally stop it from crashing, was to lower my wattage by 10W and lower the clock speed to the reference model's speed. This imediately fixed all of my driver crashes and my frame times are now better than the frame times of the newly released RTX 4060. Oh, and I almost forgot, DO NOT DOWNLOAD AFTERBURNER TO MONITOR PERFORMANCE STATS!!! You'll thank me later... Basically, the overlay causes many newly released games to crash due to a driver timeout error. P.S. Driver timeouts also bug out fan control applications. For your fan control to kick back in normally, you'll have to turn off your pc and wait up to 10 minutes. Then, the fan speed will start going down to your set limit. Edit: My card came overclocked to 3100Mhz clock speed, which is insane! This seems to be the norm with 7800XT models and 7600 models. Avoid high clock speed models like my Powercolor 7600.
So you mean that 2 cards that I have and work perfectly well are in fact...horrible? My man, let's not take conclusions about something you clearly don't know well... just saying
I can attest to this, i had a Sapphire pulse rx 7600 and was getting stuttering in some games and crashing in some, especially with msi afterburner, and i did notice the out of the box oc was quite aggressive.. i think as far as 2900mhz if i remember correctly but i might be off on the number, i really should've tried to slightly underclock it to see if that helped.. either way i sold it and bought a second hand 6800 xt with no problems so im happy.
@@radical24NFM And I thought I was the only one, lol! My powercolor RX 7600 and 7800XT were both factory overclocked to over 3Ghz, when the refference models were barely reaching 2700. If you still want to know the fix to your 7600, it is to do 2650Mhz clock speed (refference card clock speed) and turn down voltage from 1200 to 1190. These are the most stable settings that work for all the games. I've tested them since I got both of my cards, back in November. You can get away with other settings, but you will have games that will crash and others that won't. Strangely enough, the frame times also change. Anyway, I'm happy that you got a 6800XT. That is my dream GPU and I honestly should get it. It's a beast for gaming and it doesn't break the bank like Nvidia's equivalent.
@@Chakotay2222 I don't think he meant to attack me. He is probably reffering to how I expressed my hatred towards these 2 cards in my original comment. I used words like "horrible" to describe something that many people have no problems with. It's just the beginning part of my comment that shouldn't be taken for granted. The rest can be proof checked by asking people who own the same card models that I own.
I’m building my first rig tomorrow and it’s gonna an all AMD build, and I cannot thank you enough for this guide!! I’m most worried about this post boot troubleshooting, and this answers so many questions. Annnnd this guide isnt 2 years old😅
Perfect gameplay - any game as little GPU junk possible - as little as possible power consumpition and GPU and CPU stress staff - works in the long run for any PC 😮
@@AncientGameplays i kept getting kicked out of call of duty warzone, random errors and plenty of crashes but ever since following your video its all good Thanks again 💝
The clean driver is wholeheartedly recommended.. Smart memory was not working and fsr 3.0 was choppy and not really working so.. clean install and everything was working and better than before especially stuttering
Great video but I would like to add 2 things, xmp on amd mobo is called d.o.c.p and if you are experiencing issues try disabling freesync as Jake from ltt experienced issues when having it enabled on a secondary monitor, which it was by default.
Disabling freesync might help in some cases with flickering, bht that's about it. As for xmp, nah, d.o.c.p is not for all boards, some brands will give it different names. On am5 you either have expo or xmp. The amd boards will show xmp as well
@AncientGameplays my fault was assuming an expensive monitor would just include a good one. It took me a few months to figure out the cable was why I couldn't push my vram frequency as high as most others with my card.
Why is no one talking about the Adrenaline problem, which is that my overclocking and fan curve settings are reset after every reboot of the computer. I tried all possible solutions: disabled Winsows Copilot through the registry and windows group policy editor, disabled the fastboot option in BIOS and power supply options. None of this helped, the driver settings continue to be reset to default with each reboot. Perhaps someone knows some other ways to solve this problem
Disabling ULPS can be done with registry also, its simple changing 0 to 1. I have to do this each driver reinstalation, as my monitor firmware (no new release since 2019) doesnt like to work properly with this function and with Windows overall (no such problem on Ubuntu). It wont go sleep after X minutes of inactivity set in system, it keep awaking with black screen showing "no signal" every 30 seconds.
Thanks for making an updated version of this video! Super helpful as always. You are the reason why I switched to using AMD GPUs and I do not regret it one bit!
If you have a ryzen cpu that you overclock and are having constant driver crashes and you've used DDU and reinstalled at least once, you may be just *BARELY* unstable on your fclk as well as possibly the ram as mentioned. easily half of my crashing issues when I got my 7900XT at first was due to unstable FCLK on my 5950x. I ended up giving it a tiny bit more SOC, VDDP, and VDDG voltages (1.054vsoc 975mv 975mv respectively) and it solved those issues. A fresh driver install as well as using Drive Easy to update stuff like chipset drivers that had gotten out of date on top of that solved my issues 100%. Now I only have gpu crashes if: the game is badly optimized and crashes all on its own, my gpu OC is unstable on a given game, or my dram/fclk is unstable because I pushed it farther trying to get more out of it (I really want 2000 fclk but I seem to hit a HARD wall at anything above 1900 lol) The weird thing that kept me from finding the issue for nearly 2 weeks was that it was 100% stable in EVERY cpu load scenario and had no errors in mem tests or WHEA errors, so I assumed it had to be the gpu/drivers. But nope, just needed a tiny bit more voltage And yeah I cannot stress enough what he said, *DO NOT CHEAP OUT ON YOUR PSU!!!!!!* I got an EVGA 700W Bronze roughly 7-8 years ago for my first ever build that sipped a casual 150 MAYBE 200w (gtx 650, one hdd, 8gb ram, and an athlon 860k) and it has lasted me all the way up to my current 5950x 7900XT 32GB build. Im actually ideally going to swap it out soon with a 1200+w psu, that should hopefully last me another 7 years. I simply cannot stress enough getting a good PSU.
To the people who shout "Just buy an NVIDIA GPU, they never have issues!" NVIDIA GPUs (specifically the RTX 20/30/40 series) had intermittent microstuttering issues with VSYNC & HAGS enabled on certain games on every single driver after 537.58 (October 2023) until an update in February of this year. For me, it was Palworld, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart and some other games, but I had seen people saying that it affected Cyberpunk 2077 and The Last of Us: Part I for them, when I had no issues in those games. Different games were affected for different people. It was a whole mess and everyone was blowing up the NVIDIA subreddit on the daily until it eventually got fixed. That whole situation nearly made me return my 4070 to get a 7800XT instead, only reason why I didn't is because I knew a fix would come and also because I care about raytracing and DLSS. All cards have issues.
My issue ended up being overclocking stability. I have a Ryzen 7 5800x which had a stock speed of 4.2 GHz. At some point I set the speed to 4.8 and it worked just fine... until I got a much better GPU and my PC would crash during games. Thought it was the GPU, but nothing worked. Then I thought that it might be the PSU. My PSU was almost 10 years old, and I saw the thing about transients and power spikes on newer GPUs (currently have a 7800 xt), so I got a new PSU with ATX 3.0 support... that seemed to have worked for a bit, but I started having the same black screen and crashes after a day. I was about to return the GPU (bought it less than 6 months ago), but I thought I should test some things one more time. So I started testing again: couldn't run 3DMark, it would crash instantly. Had no issues testing the RAM with TestMem5. Then I finally ran Prime95 and my PC crashed instantly. Tried it 2-3 mores times, same thing and then, while checking the temps and speed of my CPU I remembered the stock speed was 4.2 GHz and not the 4.8 GHz it was running it at... lowered the speed to 4.4 GHz and Prime95 runs fine. At that time, I had already done everything on this list except for the Windows clean install and lower the CPU speed, so I was about to give up. I'm glad it worked in the end. I'll tinker with it a bit more in the next few days to make sure it really stopped crashing. Thanks a lot for the tips. They really helped me figure out what was wrong with my PC.
Windows 11 23H2 and the performacne hit, you still disable core isolation? I thought their workaround was to put it on, cause it has micro stutter and FPS issue? Have you tested it?
My friend, my motherboard is Msi x370 Gaming Pro Carbon and the chipset driver versions on the Msi website and the AMD website are not the same and the driver version on the AMD website seems to be newer. In this case, which driver should I download and install? My graphics card is Msi Armor RX 580 8GB OC. The new drivers can often cause problems in many games. What should I do in this case? ULPS can be turned off from the registry.
When I upgraded to my 6900xt from my 1080ti I had two issues but fixed them quite quickly after some tinkering. The first issue was crashing in some games. I used mpogpufix and that sorted it out. I also had flickering second monitor which turned out to be a dp problem so I switched to hdmi. Not sure if the original cable was on its way out. Honestly most issues with graphics cards are easily fixed if you put in the time in effort unless it’s doa etc.
Bom dia Fabio. Were you able to determine why your 6000 series GPU worked perfectly in one PC and crashed in a different rig when messing with clocks ?. My 7900XTX kept crashing after doing everything suggested, I sold the card and bought a 4080 which has worked flawlessly since day one with the same PC settings, it was truly plug and play. My sold 7900XTX works flawlessly in its new home. My take is that there is a combination of hardware and/or settings which AMD and RTX cards don't like but it seems that AMD cards are more "sensitive" to PC hardware combinations/settings.
I still suffer from AFMF issue where enabling it then rebooting pc next day or immediately then starting a game with AFMF or disable and enable AFMF midgame will make the performance overlay for Adrenalin display almost everything as N/A, i tried everything from clean install, driver only, minimal and still the same issue
Hi there fellow AMD users. I've had a Sapphire Pulse 5700 XT for over 4 years now, and have suffered many times with driver timeout issues, and I guess I found the fix just a few hours ago. It is most likely related to AMD drivers/software setting by default the clock and voltage profile boost values ABOVE what the manufacturers suggest (e.g.: Radeon Adrenalin Software profile set to "automatic" will actually auto-enable overclock to 2100 MHz at 1.20 Volts). You can use Adrenaline software, into "Performance", then "Tuning", enable "GPU Tuning" and "Advanced control", then you can see the voltage/clock curve with 3 points, open the "Fine tune" option just below. Set P1 above 750mv, and P3 to the Boost Clock suggested by the manufacturer (example for my GPU is 1925 MHz) and undervolt to around 1.10V. Also set the "Power Limit %" to it's maximum. Apply this profile and you should have no more timeouts. This might cause a little loss in performance, but maybe can be fine tuned to stay close as possible to timing out. Also, this might need to be done after each update/reinstall of the software. Fabio has some tutorials where he undervolts and overclocks using the same feature from the software, which should also work. I was having timeout crashes/freezing 5 minutes into gaming (MORDHAU). After setting this profile, haven't had anymore. Might be a false hope but it has become stable at least for now. Btw Fabio, maybe bring this solution in your next "Fix AMD problems" video, if it is helpful. Unfortunately this problem is not too uncommon. Thanks for your videos and tips on those issues. If anyone else is interested in the source: community.amd.com/t5/drivers-software/sapphire-5700xt-driver-update-black-screen-hangs/m-p/459700#M141206
I played a little with my rx 6600 and noticed that is most stable with everything on default. Only AMD FreeSync is on. Another interesting thing is that when i overclocked\undervolt it via Adrenalin software my score in Heaven was 5120, BUT with MSI Afterburner my score was 5290.. So now i play games with Adrenalin Software all default and use Afterburner..
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Fun story. Built a PC for a friend. Upgraded same thing a bit later and friend settled for a used 6800XT (I ordered one for each of us from Ebay, mine was the Power Color Red Devil and his, the ASUS TUF Gaming OC. Only reason it landed like that was the ASUS came in first.) Other interesting piece of info, both our Motherboards were identical: Asus x570 Tuf Gaming plus Wifi. Initially no issues, but over time and with newer games, his PC started behaving oddly. Start a game (Helldivers/Avatar/Robocop/Cyberpunk) and it will run for a bit, no temp issues other than his GPU hotspot was warmer than mine while doing the same things with the fan profiles identical, never overheated, but then the screen would go black and the PC would hang (determined later it was rebooting but no display would appear until a full power cycle was done). Traded him GPU's since my Red Devil was working flawlessly. Now his Red Devil is working flawlessly and "my" Asus did all the same things. Turns out a GPU Bios Update, then a final full purge (DDU) of the Radeon drivers fixed the issue very well. Always remember that other components have BIOS too....
I'd ddu'd the drivers before and that provided some relief periodically with driver updates (I'm not totally ignorant, I really just didn't want to take out my Red Devil 😁)
Nice tip! Gpu bios updates aren't that usuall though, that's why I always pick sapphire, asrock or powercolor for the amd side
I also have ASUS TUF 6800XT drove me crazy for more than a week until I updated the GPU bios. Turns out the old bios got some compatibility issues with Ryzen CPUs.
@@AncientGameplays well, after the bios update, I'm running this thing at 2700mhz gpu and 2100mhz mem clocks, at 1050 mV underclock and it's stable as a rock, buuut there is a wee bit of coil whine starting at about 1200rpm on the middle fan on the gpu...I used to run an MSI Evoke 5700xt OC...I've had worse 😁
@@AncientGameplays It is seldem that GPU's have a bios update. Normally that is only if there is a big issue! You will normally never be able to update GPU bioses. You are able to find almost all of them on TPU they have a big bios catalog to download. But in my experience it happens maybe once or twice in 100 releases like with the last 4080 super from MSI where MSI screwed up with their ventus X2 if i am right.
But that is as said very unusual to happen.
@@AncientGameplaysI have a sapphire 6800xt, do we get bios updates too? And if yes, then where?
A lot of very good info here Fabio. Well done and thank you for going over these things in this revisit. One tip I would like to add is that some Radeon users have reported that they are getting various crashes on their 7900 XTX (including myself on my Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XTX). After an undervolt it helped, but I along with many others have traced AMD Noise Supression as being the issue. After disabling this in Adrenaline and at startup in task manager this has gotten rid of all my crashes. Just something to keep in mind if any users that are having further issues After these tips.
I will try this. Thanks.
This will be the new video I send people when they have questions or issues. I would add optimize your settings in games. Everyone thinks they have to play on ULTRA. I didn't know about the OC Stability test software. Really great video. So underrated. Again, thanks for the time and work.
I run a 6800 XT and can tell you for a fact that DDU will save you a lot of headache. I had one time where upgrading drivers or even installing outright would just uninstall the old drivers and crash on update. Ran DDU and it installed correctly immediately.
100%. The only issues I had were stutters and it turned out it's because I didn't use DDU when updating drivers
😂😂 hell nooo AMD is shit never buying a AMD card again. Got a 4090 and have no issues with drivers it just works. Amd on the other hand 😂😂. Me and my mate ours cards back with in a week. Just use it for a paper weight.
@@kurtlazarus5975U so mad when you Say that..
U have no friend for sure..
Sit on U 4090 N' watch the futur 5080's owner❤
@@laforge4525 they will still be shit mate amd has only had 15 years to pull your finger out. 5080 😂 that will never happen. Even if it did a 3070 would stick kick it's ass.
This happened to me a while back, I had issues with my ram and Call of Duty Cold War. Game would crash giving me a "outdated graphics driver" or "update your graphics driver" kind of message, happen to me for the longest time. I tried reinstalling/updating drivers, chipsets, bios, windows itself. I even bought a brand new kit of ram at one point but the issue persisted. Eventually with the help of some much smarter people i tried upping the dram voltage just a hair which helped stopped my game from crashing. It was nice to see that tip in your video as it was the solution to my problem a handful of months ago.
Stay fabulous Fabio ❤
Edit: I was using xmp at 3200mhz for my system. Upping the dram voltage a hair stopped the issue.
This MPO thing really helped me. After a week of research, I was about to smash my head in with a rock because I couldn't figure out why my screen was flickering when using the browser and GPU-intensive programs, but only on Windows. I changed monitors, bought new cables, bought a new power supply, switched ports, reinstalled Windows with full formatting and tried different versions of drivers - nothing helps. But somehow I ended up on one of your videos about MPO, and as soon as I turned it off, the problem went away.
Trully a Savior - Fabio Pisco
Great 💪💪💪
Let me know if any of these tips helped you in some way!
Disabling the AMD in-game overlay worked for me, it hasn't crashed at all in the last 3 weeks, I have RX7600 btw.
Speaking of Chipset Drivers, AMD has new ones as of March 13th. They have bug fixes for the PSP and SFH drivers. I would not have checked had you not mentioned chipset drivers.
@@uncleelias with the latest b550 driver my cpu went from 60 to 80 in gameplay.. so installed the previous one and its fine again
what about cod mw2 dmz crashing when using spotter scope?
Still wondering whether I should disable H.A.G.S. - I'd like to improve fps on MSFS2020 (7900XTX). Would you recommend disabling it anyway?
I got a 7900XT a few months ago. Only "issue" I have is regretting not saving a bit more to get the XTX lol
U playing on 4K more ?
Like I said in the begiinning
Only reason I got the 7900XT. I m waiting for 4K monitors to drop in price while having decent refresh rates. 1440p is pretty nice.
I have an XTX but I game at 1440p😅. I think 4k is too expensive computationally speaking.🤔
Damn makes me sad bc my 7900xt is coming tomorrow will I regret it as well 😂?
Great video! Only issue I ever had was my AMD chipset drivers were too old and caused issues with newer Adrenalin releases. Updated chipset from the AMD site, thanks to your recommendation, then reinstalled Adrenalin with DDU, no issues since.
Dang you were spot on with addressing the Nvidia fanboys early on. Scrolling down I can't believe how many there are. I've used roughly the same amount of Nvidia cards in the past 13 years as I have AMD cards and sometimes I forget how brand-loyal some persons can be. I am mostly friends with tech nerds that build their own PCs, and I find that, anyone that takes this stuff seriously generally doesn't fall for brand wars. It's bubble-breaking to see that demographic lol. I'm always looking at every brand for the best deals, and preparing myself for every brand. If I get an AMD card, I'd prepare myself to minimize early-launch driver faults. If I get an Nvidia card, I'd prepare myself to avoid complete GPU failure. If I get an Intel card, I'd make sure I don't use it for DX9-11 games, and probably put it in a productivity rig to min-max it. I can't imagine what I'd need to remove from myself to be willing to feverishly fight for any of these 3 brands. They'd have to pay me to do it lol.
yeah I had 2 Nvidia GPU's back to back randomly die on me out of nowhere. I never overclocked them or anything. I went AMD recently and couldn't be happier. Nvidia fanboys I noticed like to really over dramatize the smallest issue for AMD. When Nvidia is just as guilty with their own issues.
Having and acknowledging problems with X doesn't make you a "fanboy" of Y.
I have a really old, well built Antec Pure Power from back in the day, and after I retired it, it has saved many friends and family members out of binds, until they replaced their failed PSUs. I run Super flower and EVGA Supernova 850w in all of our LAN PCs, and they're worth it.
Btw, jokes or anything aside 80% of these stuff would also work for some RTX issues (so as not to say that only AMD suffers from such problems). These are common and real problems that people not familiar with the GPU-stuff (i.e. ordinary mortals) do not know.
Exactly what i said on the video
I’ve had more issues with GeForce Experience than I’ve had with AMD.
Same here usually
What did you experience ? For me it was the other way around.
It's been incredibly stable for me as well, but I didn't issues with NVIDIA either.
@@glowinTHX been using Nvidia for 4 years now. when I tried the xtx everything went wrong to the point where I had to revamp my os….
I'm having weird flickers and screen flashing black in browser on my 1660 super. Also sometimes the nvidia overlay just doesn't work (without rebooting pc) , and I've lost a lot of clips due to it. I find amds custom color way more intuitive than nvidia game filters as well. And I have recently started using Radeon chill as a frame limiter by setting minimum fps same as maximum. Love the amd performance overlay because I don't have to bother with RTSS and msi afterburner
Thanks for your Work.
For disable "Enabled ULPS" there is no need for MS Afterburner.
Open as Admin "Regedit" over the Windows Search. Then use the Search Option in the Program and search "ULPS" (Not ULPS NA)
then change the Value from 1 to 0.
Restart the System. Its done. No need for 3rd Party Software.
As with Anti-Lag, one could have mentioned that it is generally recommended to activate the driver features in the Adrenalin software only for the respective game profile, never globally. I think when Anti-Lag + is back it will be time for a new edition of an overview of the functions and features of the Adrenalin software!
Yes, but afterburner makes it easier than registry for the common user haha
Great videos here bro. Alot of useful info packed into one place. No issues thus far but when I do have issues I'm checking here first! Obrigado mano!
No biggie! Abraço!
Excellent video that all people should watch! Keep up the great work!
I have to add this. For the chipset drivers, you have to disable windows from downloading them automatically because they are buggy. Download them ONLY by the manufacturer (ASUS, ASRock, MSI etc) or in my case by AMD itself.
Additionally, you can use the AMD Cleanup Utility (in safe mode) to remove anything that has to do with drivers and install new ones.
This solved my issues with black screens, drivers stopping and starting again etc...
Fanboys saying nvidia have better drivers and don't have that much problem compared to AMD.
Then why the hell does Fifa not launch when using 3060 but works without a problem when using the 6600xt?
It's like women saying that all men are the same after making bad decisions after bad decisions.
Didn't understand why smart memory access is showing not supported. Compared mb driver ver. with amd one and saw 2 year difference. Updated chipset from amd and smart memory access is finaly supported and enabled! Thank you sir! Solved so many issue after viewing your vids!
Glad I could help
Awesome video!! There's a ton of good information here. One thing I did find is that on older systems, say Ryzen 9 3900x/B550/RX 5700 XT. Is one of the latest Updates for that system leaning toward the chipset or Bios(maybe still checking). Causes wild behavior with the GPU, Power spikes, black screen, system locking, just really weird stuff.
Have you tested any of them lately? If so did you find anything weird?
Either way nice job and keep up the great work. Till the next one, Enjoy.
To any new veiwers his videos help a ton i spam watched them a year ago when setting up my amd shit and it was all the knowledge i needed to continue to keep my amd hardware smooth and stutterless, thanks man
The only problem I had with AMD was when I updated BIOS & reinstalled windows to use R5 5600 but didn't know I need to install chipset driver ASAP. And it led to my GPU can't contact the CPU thru PCI.E that makes the fans didn't spin even reaching 90 temp xD. After installing chipset driver, everything's back to normal and works perfectly!
Great and comprehensive video with no BS talk! My cheesy rx 5600 xt runs my battlefields without issues so far. Another good general tip might be to disable the windows control flow guard ("CFG") for specific (esp DX12) games to eliminate stutter (AMD and NVIDIA). Disable high precision event timer (HPET) might give a hand full of FPS depending on the Graphics (AMD and NVIDIA)/CPU Hardware . BTW: I will disable MPO, like you said, just in case..
imho DDU is a must for correct driver installation. I used it with gtx 1080, rx 6700 xt and now I use it with rtx 4070S. Never had driver related issues with any of these cards.
On my last NV card (2080ti) I just upgraded the drivers without DDU or uninstalling for 2+ years straight. Went to a 7900XT a month ago and I've already had to DDU 3 times after a clean Windows install...
I have used ddu several times but I only get issues and trouble with that. I will avoid DDU now. The Problems only getting worse mostly when I tried them for troubleshooting
You have been the most helpful ever, I have looked at forums, Google, anything you can imagine and this has been by far the most helpful video for me. I also have a 7900xtx with an amd cpu and these top 20 tips to fix helped so much. I have been trying for 2 days straight and nothing has worked. I watched the whole video wrote down each thing and crossed them off the list as I went.
I'm not a fan boy by no means. Hell, I'm 53. I'm all about getting the most for my money.
I prefer AMD for both GPUs and CPUs simply because of the ability to tweak and optimize for each game or application in running.
My friends are shocked by the performance of my pc. It's also much easier to find the balance needed with AMD.
It is nice to see some of these big Tech channels start talking about a balanced system and how it's more important than FPS.
One thing that helped me and I didn't see advised anywhere: RESEAT YOUR RAM! My rig had massive problems with AMD Driver crashes on nearly every card I put on it until I took one of the modules out, tested it, and put it back again. No other noticeable issues and this alone fixed things.
I hate computers sometimes.
Again, a user issue like most times
Thanks for all of these helpful tips, would always watch videos like that!
I've been an nvidia person for a long time, but recently bought a 7900XT. This video is pure gold for someone like me who knows nothing about AMD. Thank you!
I thought Fabio was switching focus to 'Team Green', good to see AMD back in the picture.
It didn't change at all, always had nvidia gpus and nvidia tests on this channel
@@AncientGameplays I know man. All good.
Fabio you legend!! I've had issues with an ultrawide using AMD cards resulting in black screens for over 5 years when changing resolution or switching from full screen games.. Nothing I've tried changed a thing - thought I'd give the disabling ULPS a try.... it worked!! Can't believe it. Thanks so much for this video and all your efforts!
Glad I could help!!
Finally an honest review about how no brand is always perfect despite what you paid for the card, and how to help. Always appreciated🎉🎉🔥
Thank you!
@@AncientGameplays anytime sir you deserve more credit and proud sponsors on your channel
Im AMD user for 10+ years, and never had money for newest gpu-s, always buying used last gen models, and i watched 1000s of videos of improving gpu performance, not once did someome mention disabling mpo! Thank you, amazing work
Glad I could help!
After using gtx1060 for over 5 years i moved onto AMD and i can say that the amd adrenaline is an awesome piece of software. I know i't snot fair to compare the old nvidia software against newer amd one, but even with the gtx i ran in some issues. I loved my gtx card, but it was getting old, so i'm not biased in terms of brand. I just look for the best value on the market.
Same
Some superb advice here Fabio. When I was first building my own systems I did infact get a cheaper PSU and it did pretty much what your clip did and popped like popcorn. Fortunately didn't take anything else with it and from that day I build a PC starting with a quality PSU. And with the price of components now it's not worth the risk. I also like to have a bit more than I need to give it some headroom to prevent the PSU going to it's limit frequently so if I need a 600w i'll get 800w etc.
Exactly, good thinking there
Your best video yet imo. Then again I haven't seen all of them 😅
Thank you so much bro!
My solution was the MSI Afterburners ULPS :D
I already tried everything, was so worried, i love my setup so i really didn't want to restore any overclock to default.
Thanx again, you saved me from more head banging to the wall :D
I had a lot of issues with my RX 7600 since I bought it: bsod every 10/15 minutes after starting a game, games crashing or closing randomly but frequently... Until I simply updated the chipset and bios of my mobo. Not a single issue in the past 3 days (and using stock configs).
Exactly what you should do with every system
Strong work, I'm happy to see you going more in depth for some of the other issues inexperienced users might not know how to navigate. As an older builder, I thought this was great.
Love you fabio pisco you are my go to for PC knowledge.
Well explained and thanks for sharing some more ideas related to pc's. Been your subscriber for sometime now and i always watch your videos.
Thank you for that video :)
Can you make please BEST AMD Radeon Settings 2024?
That one will be coming as well, just waiting to see what the next driver brings :D
Just upgraded to 7800 xt from 1050 ti. This video really helps. No crashes, stutters.
great! Be sure your CPU handles it
Great tips! Thanks as always for the excellent content!
I just swapped my rx5700 from a gigabyte Aorus to an MSI A Pro and for some reason it keeps resetting from default (which allows fan control to stop the fans) to custom where the GPU fan runs all the time and it's really pissing me off! I'll have a look throught these fixes, thanks for your amazing videos dude, I wish my brain worked differently sometimes, but not all lol, have a fun day! ;D
Have a 5700XT and get driver timeouts often? Disable Fast Boot in windows.
That means you might need a BIOS update mate
Done all that, only thing that worked was Fast Boot. Thankfully I don't have that card anymore, junction temp nightmare! Have the 7800XT now.@@AncientGameplays
No that means he needs new gpu. 5700xt is trash
@@Chakotay2222not as trashy as your comment
5700XT is trash. 110C junctions even on a Sapphire card. I have the 7800XT now way way better. I hated the 5700XT so much.@@Chakotay2222
i'm new to PC building and didn't know how big of a headache updating BIOS was. now i have to buy a pen drive which is of older version and also not more than 16 GB just to update my BIOS. Anyway your video was very helpful cuz i built a new PC couple of months ago and i've been struggling with flickering, game crashing etc. now i understand why and i can solve my issues. thank you, good sir.
Glad I could help. Most motherboards let you select the bios from your hdd, so you don't need a pen drive
Haven't had any luck fixing my helldivers 2 issues yet. Game is only stable if I severely underclock with -10% power limit.
That's still yet to be fixed sadly, for now, you don't need to do that, simply lock your frame rates using Radeon Chill mate
@@AncientGameplays I'll give that a shot. I currently have my chill range 60-90. Do you think I need to lock at 60? I'm on a 7900 XT
I still have issues with this game as well. I have a 7900XTX Taichi and have used the "chill" locked my frames to 60 and have every setting in game on low or off and it still crashes. Fresh driver and chipset. Our 7900XTX's do not like that game atm lol.
Great video and tips!!!
What a great video! I didn't knew about the MSI ULPS option for AMD, i was wondering if there was an option to stop limiting the card, now i can finally tell my friend to do this with his RX 6600 8GB i've recommended, plus he is loving to study computer hardware + basic programming on a presential course from Portugal too.
The GPU upgrade example you gave is exactly what i did, GTX 1060 6GB -> RTX 4060 8GB, it has been a wonderful experience, the only blue screens i've seem are related to memory, maybe the XMP to 2666 (yeah, it's this old) wasn't great back then.
As an owner of a 4090 FE and a 7900XTX (sapphire nitro AND a reference model) I can say that I had way more driver issues last year on the 4090 than I did on my AMD cards. The January drivers for AMD was the first one in 2 years (all the way from a 6800XT) that I had any issues with. The driver stuff for AMD is massively overblown at this point and unless you're talking to someone who actually owns both brands or owns the cards, don't bother listening.
I have a rx570 and r5 2400g. Before, running cs2, it would drop to like 40 fps when there are too many things happening (I had all my drivers stuck on 2022 cus i stopped using my pc since then, when i finally hop back on my pc; updated to 24.1.1 instantly without uninstalling my drivers with ddu) , but then I clean installed my gpu drivers and updated the chipset driver. Now it is running around 100-120 fps with sometimes dropping to 90. I also disabled ULPS. It's a life saver really. Also thinking of installing radeon id drivers but I'm unsure about it as i have an ryzen 5 2400g as my cpu which is unsupported for the smart access memory, but nonetheless this video was super helpful. Thanks !! Love your contents man
quick update - it is running any games way better than what it used to with very little drops in fps compared to before
i switch 3060 ti to RX 7800 XT and i`am very happy
Started with a the rx 7800 xt n havnt had much issues. When I did it was easy to troubleshoot n fix
JUST UPGRADED FROM A 3070TI TO A 7900XT AND IM VERY HAPPY THE CARD IS A BEAST ! BUT IM STILL LEARNING ALL THE STUFF IN THE AMD SETTINGS SO THANKS FOR THE VID
Salvation Army episode had me dying 😂
😂💪
I really appreciate you talking about the chipset driver because go to Asus to update so I went to AMD this time and wow I found a lot of drivers that were out-of-date
Thanks, AMD Jesus!
This is some great content thank you. I've always done a clean install, just took to much time, been more than a year now that I've been updating through adrenaline and no issues ever, amd does a very good job of uninstalling the old drivers, registry entries and so on. Instead of ulps i just create a custom profile under tuning for the game that idles my gpu, only a few older games mind you, then just bump the minimum frequency higher, problem solved. Got the tip from some of your older videos.
I just ordered a 7800XT for my first build ever.
goodluck bro, its a solid card
solid card indeed
I bought 7900GRE and its coming tomorrow
Impeccable video as always, very clear and direct. In my experience, I'm not a fanboy of any brand; I usually buy whatever gives me the best performance for my budget. Currently, I'm happy with a 5700X that I upgraded not long ago, and I'm planning to upgrade to a 5800X3D. However, I had several issues with my 6700XT GPU, which were resolved when I switched to Nvidia. Some problems occurred in Windows, RUclips, simply browsing, random restarts, stuttering in games, and even issues while working with Illustrator, etc.
Upon purchasing a 3080 Ti, I stopped experiencing all kinds of problems (I had already ruled out that it was a physical problem with my 6700XT). Although the overall performance of my former AMD card was very good for what I paid, the issues I encountered outweighed the benefits. Anyway, this is just my experience. Regards!
i can solve this in 2 words...buy nvidia xD (amd drivers are bad af)
You're another brainwashed individual, that's all mate
I have an RX 6900 XT and your videos help me make the most use of my card. Thank you!
Just wanna let this comment here for people with the 7000 series. The RX 7600 and 7800XT, especially those models that come overclocked, are absolutely horrible for gaming. Big stuttering, trash frame times, and low fps. All I had to do on my 7600 to finally stop it from crashing, was to lower my wattage by 10W and lower the clock speed to the reference model's speed. This imediately fixed all of my driver crashes and my frame times are now better than the frame times of the newly released RTX 4060. Oh, and I almost forgot, DO NOT DOWNLOAD AFTERBURNER TO MONITOR PERFORMANCE STATS!!! You'll thank me later... Basically, the overlay causes many newly released games to crash due to a driver timeout error. P.S. Driver timeouts also bug out fan control applications. For your fan control to kick back in normally, you'll have to turn off your pc and wait up to 10 minutes. Then, the fan speed will start going down to your set limit.
Edit: My card came overclocked to 3100Mhz clock speed, which is insane! This seems to be the norm with 7800XT models and 7600 models. Avoid high clock speed models like my Powercolor 7600.
So you mean that 2 cards that I have and work perfectly well are in fact...horrible?
My man, let's not take conclusions about something you clearly don't know well... just saying
@AncientGameplays yooo hold your horses. What's up with the attack on this guy like that?
I can attest to this, i had a Sapphire pulse rx 7600 and was getting stuttering in some games and crashing in some, especially with msi afterburner, and i did notice the out of the box oc was quite aggressive.. i think as far as 2900mhz if i remember correctly but i might be off on the number, i really should've tried to slightly underclock it to see if that helped.. either way i sold it and bought a second hand 6800 xt with no problems so im happy.
@@radical24NFM And I thought I was the only one, lol! My powercolor RX 7600 and 7800XT were both factory overclocked to over 3Ghz, when the refference models were barely reaching 2700. If you still want to know the fix to your 7600, it is to do 2650Mhz clock speed (refference card clock speed) and turn down voltage from 1200 to 1190. These are the most stable settings that work for all the games. I've tested them since I got both of my cards, back in November. You can get away with other settings, but you will have games that will crash and others that won't. Strangely enough, the frame times also change. Anyway, I'm happy that you got a 6800XT. That is my dream GPU and I honestly should get it. It's a beast for gaming and it doesn't break the bank like Nvidia's equivalent.
@@Chakotay2222 I don't think he meant to attack me. He is probably reffering to how I expressed my hatred towards these 2 cards in my original comment. I used words like "horrible" to describe something that many people have no problems with. It's just the beginning part of my comment that shouldn't be taken for granted. The rest can be proof checked by asking people who own the same card models that I own.
I’m building my first rig tomorrow and it’s gonna an all AMD build, and I cannot thank you enough for this guide!! I’m most worried about this post boot troubleshooting, and this answers so many questions. Annnnd this guide isnt 2 years old😅
For me personally, 10:15 Install Driver-Only, has been the most helpful fix. I have Radeon RX 7800XT
you have some software messing with the adrenalin one, check it out
Words of wisdom, so helpful as ever. It's videos like this that can trap the common errors that aren't always obvious to the casual gamer.
Hey Ancient, should I be following some of these tips (like for example: Disabling MPO, HAGS) even if I am not getting any issues?
Nah, if you're fine let it be, disabling mpo might help though
Perfect gameplay - any game as little GPU junk possible - as little as possible power consumpition and GPU and CPU stress staff - works in the long run for any PC 😮
thanks for the advice, updating the monitor firmware no longer changes the refresh when restarting the PC
good
Thanks!
Setting my early X570 to PCI-E 3.0 solved my driver hangs in a game that seemed to really mess up the hardware.
Great! Some motherboards have issues there
This video is Gold
Thank you very much it solved my long time problem
God bless
Great! What was it?
@@AncientGameplays i kept getting kicked out of call of duty warzone, random errors and plenty of crashes but ever since following your video its all good Thanks again 💝
I didn't know about monitor drivers. Cool video man 👍
Seen one of your older videos. Does turning off HPET still make a difference? I currently own a 7800X3D.
Might help in some cases, not relevant nowadays
Is it the AMD Cleanup Utility enough for clean-installing new drivers? Or should I go with DDU only?
As stated, one or another
@@AncientGameplays Thank you!! You're awesome.
hello thank you for the video should i be installing the other motherboard drivers too (lan,sound,wifi)? or are they bloatware
I use AMD Cleanup Utility, I have not had any issues with AMD. A year ago I went from Nvidia to AMD. ❤
The clean driver is wholeheartedly recommended.. Smart memory was not working and fsr 3.0 was choppy and not really working so.. clean install and everything was working and better than before especially stuttering
💪🤌
Great video but I would like to add 2 things, xmp on amd mobo is called d.o.c.p and if you are experiencing issues try disabling freesync as Jake from ltt experienced issues when having it enabled on a secondary monitor, which it was by default.
Disabling freesync might help in some cases with flickering, bht that's about it. As for xmp, nah, d.o.c.p is not for all boards, some brands will give it different names. On am5 you either have expo or xmp. The amd boards will show xmp as well
Yes, I agree with these tips, great job, encountered a lot of these weird issues over the years, lol
Hey Fabio, many thanks for this AMD problem guide. It will we for sure helpfull for a lot of AMD users on this planet :))
The one I can confirm helped me was upgrading to a good 16k display cable. If you plan to do any gpu overclocking, this is a must.
Like I said, people usually neglect cables...
@AncientGameplays my fault was assuming an expensive monitor would just include a good one. It took me a few months to figure out the cable was why I couldn't push my vram frequency as high as most others with my card.
Tons and tons of useful tips. Thanks for the video mate.
I think after having big issues I will refer your video😅. So far so good
Why is no one talking about the Adrenaline problem, which is that my overclocking and fan curve settings are reset after every reboot of the computer. I tried all possible solutions: disabled Winsows Copilot through the registry and windows group policy editor, disabled the fastboot option in BIOS and
power supply options. None of this helped, the driver settings continue to be reset to default with each reboot. Perhaps someone knows some other ways to solve this problem
Okay thanks a lot u saved me, my r6700xt wasn't working with my B550 and switching to pcie gen 3 was the trick I 'm so happy Thanks again !
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Disabling ULPS can be done with registry also, its simple changing 0 to 1. I have to do this each driver reinstalation, as my monitor firmware (no new release since 2019) doesnt like to work properly with this function and with Windows overall (no such problem on Ubuntu). It wont go sleep after X minutes of inactivity set in system, it keep awaking with black screen showing "no signal" every 30 seconds.
Thanks for making an updated version of this video! Super helpful as always. You are the reason why I switched to using AMD GPUs and I do not regret it one bit!
Fabio, top! We need more tips for Laptops' Apu as well!
If you have a ryzen cpu that you overclock and are having constant driver crashes and you've used DDU and reinstalled at least once, you may be just *BARELY* unstable on your fclk as well as possibly the ram as mentioned.
easily half of my crashing issues when I got my 7900XT at first was due to unstable FCLK on my 5950x. I ended up giving it a tiny bit more SOC, VDDP, and VDDG voltages (1.054vsoc 975mv 975mv respectively) and it solved those issues. A fresh driver install as well as using Drive Easy to update stuff like chipset drivers that had gotten out of date on top of that solved my issues 100%.
Now I only have gpu crashes if: the game is badly optimized and crashes all on its own, my gpu OC is unstable on a given game, or my dram/fclk is unstable because I pushed it farther trying to get more out of it (I really want 2000 fclk but I seem to hit a HARD wall at anything above 1900 lol)
The weird thing that kept me from finding the issue for nearly 2 weeks was that it was 100% stable in EVERY cpu load scenario and had no errors in mem tests or WHEA errors, so I assumed it had to be the gpu/drivers. But nope, just needed a tiny bit more voltage
And yeah I cannot stress enough what he said, *DO NOT CHEAP OUT ON YOUR PSU!!!!!!* I got an EVGA 700W Bronze roughly 7-8 years ago for my first ever build that sipped a casual 150 MAYBE 200w (gtx 650, one hdd, 8gb ram, and an athlon 860k) and it has lasted me all the way up to my current 5950x 7900XT 32GB build. Im actually ideally going to swap it out soon with a 1200+w psu, that should hopefully last me another 7 years. I simply cannot stress enough getting a good PSU.
To the people who shout "Just buy an NVIDIA GPU, they never have issues!"
NVIDIA GPUs (specifically the RTX 20/30/40 series) had intermittent microstuttering issues with VSYNC & HAGS enabled on certain games on every single driver after 537.58 (October 2023) until an update in February of this year.
For me, it was Palworld, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart and some other games, but I had seen people saying that it affected Cyberpunk 2077 and The Last of Us: Part I for them, when I had no issues in those games. Different games were affected for different people. It was a whole mess and everyone was blowing up the NVIDIA subreddit on the daily until it eventually got fixed. That whole situation nearly made me return my 4070 to get a 7800XT instead, only reason why I didn't is because I knew a fix would come and also because I care about raytracing and DLSS. All cards have issues.
I even have recording issues here and there...they fixed some weeks ago an adobe software stuttering they've been having for years...
Great tips as always. Thank you Fab! always appreciate your works.
Appreciate you watching and commenting as well!
Thank you for your work. Keep it up!
Something important to know is these are more windows issues than AMD issues. I'm running AMD on Linux and have had 0 issues.
My issue ended up being overclocking stability. I have a Ryzen 7 5800x which had a stock speed of 4.2 GHz. At some point I set the speed to 4.8 and it worked just fine... until I got a much better GPU and my PC would crash during games. Thought it was the GPU, but nothing worked. Then I thought that it might be the PSU. My PSU was almost 10 years old, and I saw the thing about transients and power spikes on newer GPUs (currently have a 7800 xt), so I got a new PSU with ATX 3.0 support... that seemed to have worked for a bit, but I started having the same black screen and crashes after a day. I was about to return the GPU (bought it less than 6 months ago), but I thought I should test some things one more time.
So I started testing again: couldn't run 3DMark, it would crash instantly. Had no issues testing the RAM with TestMem5. Then I finally ran Prime95 and my PC crashed instantly. Tried it 2-3 mores times, same thing and then, while checking the temps and speed of my CPU I remembered the stock speed was 4.2 GHz and not the 4.8 GHz it was running it at... lowered the speed to 4.4 GHz and Prime95 runs fine. At that time, I had already done everything on this list except for the Windows clean install and lower the CPU speed, so I was about to give up. I'm glad it worked in the end.
I'll tinker with it a bit more in the next few days to make sure it really stopped crashing.
Thanks a lot for the tips. They really helped me figure out what was wrong with my PC.
I know for a fact that OC stability usually does this kind of stuff. Glad I could help!
Windows 11 23H2 and the performacne hit, you still disable core isolation? I thought their workaround was to put it on, cause it has micro stutter and FPS issue?
Have you tested it?
My friend, my motherboard is Msi x370 Gaming Pro Carbon and the chipset driver versions on the Msi website and the AMD website are not the same and the driver version on the AMD website seems to be newer. In this case, which driver should I download and install? My graphics card is Msi Armor RX 580 8GB OC. The new drivers can often cause problems in many games. What should I do in this case? ULPS can be turned off from the registry.
These were really good suggestions.
When I upgraded to my 6900xt from my 1080ti I had two issues but fixed them quite quickly after some tinkering. The first issue was crashing in some games. I used mpogpufix and that sorted it out. I also had flickering second monitor which turned out to be a dp problem so I switched to hdmi. Not sure if the original cable was on its way out. Honestly most issues with graphics cards are easily fixed if you put in the time in effort unless it’s doa etc.
Bom dia Fabio. Were you able to determine why your 6000 series GPU worked perfectly in one PC and crashed in a different rig when messing with clocks ?.
My 7900XTX kept crashing after doing everything suggested, I sold the card and bought a 4080 which has worked flawlessly since day one with the same PC settings, it was truly plug and play. My sold 7900XTX works flawlessly in its new home. My take is that there is a combination of hardware and/or settings which AMD and RTX cards don't like but it seems that AMD cards are more "sensitive" to PC hardware combinations/settings.
I still suffer from AFMF issue where enabling it then rebooting pc next day or immediately then starting a game with AFMF or disable and enable AFMF midgame will make the performance overlay for Adrenalin display almost everything as N/A, i tried everything from clean install, driver only, minimal and still the same issue
Hi there fellow AMD users.
I've had a Sapphire Pulse 5700 XT for over 4 years now, and have suffered many times with driver timeout issues, and I guess I found the fix just a few hours ago.
It is most likely related to AMD drivers/software setting by default the clock and voltage profile boost values ABOVE what the manufacturers suggest (e.g.: Radeon Adrenalin Software profile set to "automatic" will actually auto-enable overclock to 2100 MHz at 1.20 Volts).
You can use Adrenaline software, into "Performance", then "Tuning", enable "GPU Tuning" and "Advanced control", then you can see the voltage/clock curve with 3 points, open the "Fine tune" option just below. Set P1 above 750mv, and P3 to the Boost Clock suggested by the manufacturer (example for my GPU is 1925 MHz) and undervolt to around 1.10V. Also set the "Power Limit %" to it's maximum. Apply this profile and you should have no more timeouts. This might cause a little loss in performance, but maybe can be fine tuned to stay close as possible to timing out.
Also, this might need to be done after each update/reinstall of the software.
Fabio has some tutorials where he undervolts and overclocks using the same feature from the software, which should also work.
I was having timeout crashes/freezing 5 minutes into gaming (MORDHAU). After setting this profile, haven't had anymore. Might be a false hope but it has become stable at least for now.
Btw Fabio, maybe bring this solution in your next "Fix AMD problems" video, if it is helpful. Unfortunately this problem is not too uncommon. Thanks for your videos and tips on those issues.
If anyone else is interested in the source:
community.amd.com/t5/drivers-software/sapphire-5700xt-driver-update-black-screen-hangs/m-p/459700#M141206
I played a little with my rx 6600 and noticed that is most stable with everything on default. Only AMD FreeSync is on. Another interesting thing is that when i overclocked\undervolt it via Adrenalin software my score in Heaven was 5120, BUT with MSI Afterburner my score was 5290.. So now i play games with Adrenalin Software all default and use Afterburner..