1884 Cincinnati Courthouse Riot
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- Опубликовано: 24 мар 2022
- On March 26th, 1884, the city of Cincinnati, Ohio was on edge, waiting for a jury to convict a defendant who was accused of murdering a man in December of the year before. That verdict did come down guilty, but not for murder. Instead, the man was convicted of manslaughter. That wasn’t good enough for the people of Cincinnati, and over the next few days one of the most destructive riots in American history rocked the city.
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Thank you for this video. As a Cincinnati genealogist, I lament the lack of records caused by this fire. In addition, my husband's 2x great grandfather was arrested after this riot. He was never one to let a good riot go to waste.
Ah the 2x great grandfather: great grandfather of both your husband's grandfather and his grandmother : p
@@jtzoltan nope, great, great grandfather.
@@motherhenn8850 I was only teasing madam Henn. Deliberate tongue-in-cheek misinterpretation of incestuous ancestors. I have no grounds to accuse your husband's lineage of cosanguinity
That's the stuff of family legend.
Never knew why our Cincy records are so poor. Learn something new...every so often.
I can remember back when I was a sprout, old timers talk about watching the court house burning from Price Hill, one of the neighborhood hills overlooking downtown Cincy, from back when they were sprouts.
My goodness. You must be a big ole tree by now! That was a looooong time ago!
@@G-gnome
Not really all that long ago, I mean gee whiz grandad was born in1870, my daddy was a doughboy, and I've got a near two hundred year brandied fruit starter jar bubblin' in the cupboard, but yeah I got me a few rings to count😉
So, you're originally from Brussels, cool. Do you still live in Belgium or have you immigrated?
@@randallmarsh1187
I'm afraid I'll have to waffle on that one😏
@@bodaciousoasis2574 Must be pushing 90
Born and raised in Northern Kentucky, it is known that Cincinnati is the hub of this region. I like to say that when Cincinnati coughs, everybody gets a cold. I'm sure that these events affected everybody in Northern Kentucky and Southeastern Indiana. Very well done.
You might consider Cincinnati is the hub, I sure don't.
My family is from Harlan and when they tried leaving they went to Cincinnati, it's where they all dreamed of running off to
@@bullhead900 hub of trade at the time.
For the Midwest region
@@bullhead900 stay mad
"We can contend with evil that men do in the name of evil,
but heaven protect us from what they do in the name of good."
- Herodotus, from his third essay
Also, the evil that men do in the name of "god"......☹
Isn't that the truth
You’ve got to bring back, “This is history that deserves to be remembered.” Line when you finish.
This was the line that hooked me years ago. F.
BRING IT BACK, LANCE!
Yes!
L. Phillips: *shuffles home from work that evening* "What a day, what a day." *turns the key in the front door lock* "If there's one thing a hate more than eggs, it's dead cats!" *opens front door* "Oh, COME ON!!!"
LOL!!!
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ROFLMAO!!!!
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The wheel of time turns but in the history of humanity it seems to run in a rut, repeating the same mistakes over and over.
If only the past could be changed…
@@SRW_ That could lead to us not being born, let's focus on changing the future instead.
Corruption tend to eventually lead to violence, countries with higher corruption tend to have more violence so getting rid of it should keep riots down... And if not, corruption is bad in either case so getting rid of it isn't exactly a waste of time.
Few countries today are as corrupt as during the guilded age but every country in the world still have some.
@@loke6664
I was actually referencing titanic adventure out of time. A computer game from the 90s
@@loke6664most governments now are even more corrupt than the guilded age. Look at what's happened in the last few years, that alone disproves your statement. Just because corrupt politicians pass laws making their actions lawful doesn't mean that they're not corrupt. That the same as a criminals judging their own cases and finding themselves innocent.
@@thebigdog2295 I disagree. When you can buy a high military commission for instance you have a problem and that rarely if ever happens today.
And while things today with lobbyists might be a bit bad it have nothing on the robber Barons of the guilded age.
I admit that it is a bit worrying how much money it cost to run in office for politicians in the US, that part is actually worse today but in general that is not the case.
If you were rich in the 1890s you were insanely powerful and there were really no laws stopping companies from gaining a total monopoly like Standard oil until Teddy Roosevelt. No food safety rules either which meant you could do almost anything.
Thanks for telling the story of the Court House Riots in my hometown of Cincinnati. It is good people learn for events like this!
People don’t learn. Why do you think we are in the mess we are in today
@@deee5520 I believe that people in general learn - sadly, the nature of man will always be with us and that nature is not a good one. In times of anger or perceived "injustice" there will always be those who will resort to violence.
@@TheDoctor1225- “perceived injustice”… how about actual injustice. The one universal truth about mankind, “The more things change, the more they remain the same.”
I loved when he said Kentuckians spoiling for a fight. Has someone who grew up in Kentucky I know exactly what you mean.
I grew up in Cincinnati and never new about this event.
Who knew HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF? Thank you for this timely history lesson.
Just a piece of trivia for those who might be interested. The "Ohio Militia" mentioned in this vid still exists, only today it is known as the "Ohio Military Reserve". The OMR is composed of unpaid volunteers who purchase their own Army style uniforms (work and dress), supply their own weapons (primarily sidearms), train at least one weekend a month and report to the Governor of Ohio as their Commander in Chief. They are NOT combat type units but rather, for the most part, Military Police and Medical units. They are available for riot control, disaster relief and humanitarian efforts within the borders of Ohio and any state bordering Ohio. The vast majority of OMR volunteers are prior active duty military from all branches of service, so they do have a great deal of formal training. After serving four years active duty in the Marines, I served another eight years with the OMR, and I am just as proud of that service. Several other states, BTW, also still maintain the same type of militia.
Sounds like a bunch of racist white guys
@Johnson You should help them practice their aim.
@@michaelportone2915 thanks for making his point about the racist white boys. perfect f'n timing, bro.
@@tracyhale8336 Perfect timing for a comment from an imbecile. In my statement to him, which you initially had nothing to do with, I did not mention race.
@@michaelportone2915
Doesn't matter, they'll twist things around if they have to in order to demonize you.
And they call other people Nazi's, wow.
I really appreciate your videos. I love history but have ADHD, so short attention span. Your videos are long enough to be so interesting but short enough that I am a little disappointed when it’s over.
Thank you
That was really insightful. Cox is a famous name in Dayton Ohio also. Note the TV station and arboretum.
Cox Broadcasting, Dayton Daily News and the airport. Yes, I too, am a Dayton native.
Wasn't that the same family into which one of Richard Nixon's daughters married?
@@elcastorgrande I’d have to research that. Good question though!
This makes me think of the draft riots during the Civil War in New York City.
Thanks History Guy! I was born and raised north of Cincinnati but never knew any of this.
Being a Cincinnatian, I'm surprised I've never heard this! Thank you, THG!
@thehistoryguy Would you look into doing an episode about the Roseburg (Oregon) Blast of 1958? [I'm pretty sure that's the correct year.] I've heard a few things about it and would love to know more about how a truck filled with explosives blew up and took most of downtown Roseburg with it. And I think you're just the guy to find out "the rest of the story," as Paul Harvey would say. (Goodness, I just gave away my generation! 😄) Thank you for these snippets of history; they're important to remember.
Sounds interesting. I'm from the next county over, Coos.
August 7, 1959
As ever, an excellent presentation, Lance. I appreciate how you bring out the humanity of the events you cover, as it should be...for isn't that what history is?
This reminds me of some of the best advice I ever heard. "It's always better to look rich & be poor than look poor & be poor".
I grew up in Cincinnati and I had no idea of this occurrence. Thank you for making me aware of it. Those Germans were radical and the city had many beer factories!
Not surprisingly, alcohol was involved. 🙄
Thanks Lance! I grew up across the river from downtown Cincy and never heard of this event!
I love the Cincinnati History Museum in that magnificent Art Deco train station and I've been there twice. I'll have to pay better attention to this segment. I better remember Ohio fighting Kentucky for years to build a bridge across the Ohio.
The more things change, the more they stay the same...
John McClane reminds me of Bruce Willis's character in "Die Hard"
Yippee-ki-yay!
How so?
I read a very similar story to this in Baltimore that involved a deadly riot and the jail being broken into. The Know-Nothings were here in the 1850s.
Very interesting presentation, THG. I live not too far away in Dayton, Ohio. I never heard about this before. Thanks for bringing a little history close to home!
How have I never heard of this craziness? Thanks THG!
Literately watching this on my lunch break, in the same courthouse.
History is fascinating to me, and this story is one I wish I had learned of in high school, or at least college. Thankfully, I have the History Guy to remind me of the interesting and often dark side of US history.
Nothing has changed. Great upload!
And now there’s much more corruption than ever 😂
proof you have a big blind spot to either history or modern day
@@john_smith_john That’s it , that’s your response without defending yourself. Just a troll response, amazing.
Thank you for coving this lesser know bit of history of Cincinnati.
Chicago calling for Cincinnati to reform its courts! Ha . . . that's the pot calling the kettle black!!!!
What a horrifying story. Sounds rather like the lynching that took place at St James Park here in San Jose in 1933. The more things change…
Thanks for the interesting information. I came to Cincinnati as a fifty-six-year-old sixteen years ago. It is pleasing to get some exposure to local history.
This is an excellent depiction of the Court House Riots. Thank you. As a tour guide for Riverside Food Tours in Cincinnati, I love history and sharing it with others!
Thank you for the in depth history of the riot. As a after fact when they rebuilt the courthouse they made sure it was less flammable than the previous buildings design.
The 1884 courthouse riots are why there is currently a dry moat that surrounds the courthouse that was built afterwards.
Last time i was this early i was participating in a Riot in the city of Cincinnati on March 26th 1884
Watching this on March 26th, 138 years to the day. Love your channel.
Gotta give props to Palmer for staring down the a mob seeking your death and saying "I'm white" and they believed him. This whole affair would make a decent movie or even a series.
Perhaps he is a distant relative of Racheal Dolezal.
Sounds like something out of Blazing Saddles
@@jamieholtsclaw2305 Only if his grandmother was dutch!
This would make an interesting movie 🎥
Excellent! Thank you.
Human nature never changes. Those in positions of power are constantly corrupted by money. Here in Houston, millions upon millions of dollars of aid were never accounted for after the massive flooding of Hurricane Harvey. Thanks in large part to Mayor Sylvester Turner and his cronies.
Thank you..
Thanks for the story and video. I had never heard of this before now
Most of us knew of the "Daly" political machine in Chicago, but "Cox" in Cincinnati is new to me. New York City... and many other very large metropolitan areas also have corrupt political machines in perpetual control of the process.
It will be interesting to see your expose on the *national* political machine that has been in control of our country for the past several decades... when the _"powers that be"_ allow such thought to be pursued...
There was also the Prendergast machine in Kansas City. One figure was able to rise out of the corruption of that machine was one of America's most honest politicians ever, Harry Truman.
Always interesting!
Wow! Like a lot of people I did not know about this. That's why we subscribe to your channel. Yet another informative piece of History! Thanks
This was so well done. I knew of the riots but your thorough walkthrough of how it transpired helps educate our history and timestamp our history
Thank you for the Cincinnati history. I'm originally from east of Cincinnati.
Another reminder that in the "good ole days" people were pretty much the same. We should appreciate the times of tranquility much more than we do.
Great video, Keep up the good work!
The rioters brought a cannon.
Proudly American.
very interesting.. ty
MOB rule never ends well. The idea of a Police Gatling Gun is just nuts...🙄
It's only nuts when viewed through the lens of modern experience. Remember that when those weapons were issued the frontier which much nearer, and it was not inconceivable that the police would be called upon to defend against attackers out of the wilderness or even foreign Invaders.
Ever since the Great Railroad Strike of 1877, nearly every city police and state National Guard are given heavier weapons to deal with riots...
@@HM2SGT there's not much Wilderness in 1884 Ohio...
Effective, though. The riots ended in 2 days. How long were the mobs allowed to tear up Seattle in 2020? Portland?
@@joesterling4299 you're suggesting we should mow down people with machine gun fire?
Back when people cared. Thanks for this amazing piece of historical content.
Do you seriously think people don't care now?
I see you had a coma during 2020. Man, do I have a story to tell you
@@calebk9111 it's a hiperbole. People care, but now they prefer to watch other country's problems instead of fixing their own.
@@trunkage okay tell me how the world put down their pants to medical tirany and doesn't care to find out how exactly this whole situation started. Tell me how they care more about being confortable tan fighting for truth.
You can clearly examine the past and see what people protested for and what people protest for now, and how.
@@winstonsmith7733 First, you mean hyperbole, not hiperbole. And second, that's not true. Maybe the government likes to deal with other country's problems, but that's not the case for the average citizen. People show they care about domestic issues by protesting, rioting, voicing their opinions publically, voting, etc. It makes no sense to suggest that no one cares at all about our internal affairs.
thanks
Happy Friday THG
Wow! Thats wild. Citizens had no Chill back then. They did not tolerate corruption at all.
Fantastic bit
I did my undergraduate thesis on this!
I Love History!
Good one!
History does repeat itself.
Love to learn different parts of how things worked in the past.
Yikes!! Rough times
My home town love this channel
Great episode! You should do one on the Stevens County KS county seat war and the Haymeadow Massacre.
You are my favorire historian! Bravo!
I can't wait for you to cover the kenosha riots in a few years. As someone who lived through that bit of history it would be cool to see it covered
We're gonna be waiting til 2222 for that THG episode. Maybe The History Guy's great-great-great grandson will talk about it
Some history deserves to be forgotten.
@@1pcfred never.
A historical event that deserved "Great" put in front of it.
Not to admire a murderer, but props to Palmer for thinking fast and avoiding that lynch mob. Being thrown under the bus by your lawyer by way of your race is a raw deal, so playing to the same thing to keep yourself in the frying pan and not the fire is pretty fair game.
Too bad the guy murdered his boss, although the average American can sympathize with the impulse.
He was hanged.
@@michaelportone2915 He WAS, but NOT by the lynch mob though.
@@jamesslick4790 And he still was.
@@michaelportone2915 I said he WAS but NOT BY THE LYNCH MOB he was lawfully executed by the STATE of OHIO.
We could use a little more of this today.
Back in the Saddle Again!
Reminescent of the reaction in the Rodney King case and a reminder that unjust verdicts never go over well. No, they *should* never meet with violence. But if there's underlying corruption then it's difficult to stand by a legal system. The system must at least *appear* just.
ESPECIALLY when its not!
Then, riot when criminals are not adequately punished; now, riot if they are punished...
May I suggest a video on the old workhouse jail in Cincinnati. It was the city jail from the late 1800's until the mid 80's. It was a notoriously bad place to find yourself. No plumbing in the cells etc. Definitely an interesting history there.
Cincinnati Ohio has a long history of riots.
Having lived in Cincinnati for many years before moving to Florida I'm glad you made this video. Thank you very much.
I wish the public would be outraged at all the violent crime these days - but maybe not this outraged. Great episode, thanks
Come to Cincinnati and ride the trolly to nowhere. What a joke.
Cool, now do the 100 days of the Portland Federal Courthouse Riot in 2020
Too soon?
Not soon enough.
What riot? Don't you mean that mostly peaceful protest?
If " they " keep it up we may see this again sadly...
Born and live in Cincy... Never knew this at all.
That guy named Philips who was erroneously confused with a jury member of the same name, he got *screwed*.
So much bloodshed. Enforcing the will of the people is hard.
You know the situation is bad when the militia shows up, looks around, and decides to get the heck out of there
I grew up in Cincinnati and now live in Loveland, I never knew of this. Now I know.
Thank you for another video we didn't know we needed to see. And we thought 2020 was a bad year. Those of us who lived through 1964-1971 know things can, as in 1884 Cincinnati, get really tumultuous very quickly.
Praise God that my family and I spent most of that period of time in Hawaii, which in those days was much like being on another planet!
@@vlmellody51 Yes it was. I was in a major metropolitan area where the Nixon admin dropped drugs to 'pacify' the population. All hell broke out. Damn them for that. They were troubled times.
@@rnedlo9909 yes, they were very troubled times. I couldn't watch Ken Burns' documentary on the Vietnam War because it gave me flashbacks.
@@vlmellody51 I watched it, but it was very hard for me to. I went to the Viet Nam War Memorial in DC. I did not know before hand how emotional it would be. Six people I grew up with are on that wall. I was caught in a riot and went through a city with the aftermath of a riot the day after looking for a family friend who could not flee. She was okay, but it changed the way I saw life after that. Pictures of cities bombed out after WWII, that is what it looked like.
@@rnedlo9909 my father was an officer in the Air Force during that time and he was very sensitive to the criticism he received back then. He was sent to Thailand for his tour of duty during the Vietnam War and even though he was spared much of the direct conflict, he came back very changed and traumatized by it. He never completely recovered from his experience there.
How about a short account of the Bund Fur Freiheit und Recht in 1886? Another bit of Cincinnati history. See p. 64, Boss Cox’s Cincinnati, by Zane L. Miller.
Times have changed. Those are peaceful protesters now.
Only if they're black. Black people NEVER riot, according to today's Media, only white Conservatives riot.
Hanging needs to be brought back as a form of punishment for criminals!
Insanity
Never knew
Though very much unrelated, for whatever reason this video reminded me of the largely forgotten case of Charles "Pacer" Smith, a baseball player who played for Decatur's disbanded Yellow Hammers, among other teams. The 1895 trial got a fair amount of attention in its time, partially because of Smith's career in sports.
Zero pirates, but there was a lot of drinking. Thanks Sir.
This story reminds me of the Draft riots scene in thee movie: Gangs of NY.
Americans will only take so much bad government. I hope current political leaders are watching
Bread and Circuses, my friend. Remember when we couldn't imagine a worse president than Bill Clinton, and now he looks like George Washington by comparison with what we have now. So long as there's reality television we can expect more of the same, only worse.
Wow. No wonder people have been comparing some of today's events to those of the Guilded Age.
Hey History Guy 👋, since the MLB Lockout. There's going to be $1 🍺 weekends this season. I smell a sequel story!
The sequel can never match the original.
Sad when we forget how to be people and feel like we have no choice but to resort to our primal ways