Anyone not knowledgeable about Cat watch the Nunes fight back and watch the beating she took in the first two rounds. To come back and stop Amanda Nunes the way she did was one of the great female MMA performances.
I have a brother whose behavior has changed significantly ever since a rash of incidents he was involved in, including a few street fights and a four-wheeler accident. He used to be a great hockey player, full of spunk, great with the ladies, protective over me and my sister, funny as hell and just the best big brother. Now he's been depressed for years, suffers from paranoia, can't hold a job, struggles with eating and his sleep cycle is way out of whack. He ended up in a psych ward for a few weeks after an episode where he just stopped eating to the point where he couldn't get out of bed without our dads help. They doped him up on meds which kind of helped but really only masked what was really going on. This podcast has given me hope that maybe, just maybe there is something out there that can help see what is going on in my big brothers head, and possibly help get him back to even 75% of his normal self. I now have hope thanks to Cat for being vocal about her injury and her struggles.
Still dealing with some of my military career PTSD (and I got out in 1999). Doing MUCH better but chased a lot of "remedies" over the years as well.. some work (meditation), some don't. Thank you for being so open about this Cat. Wish I could give you a hug and let you know you're not alone, but I'll just wish you (and your son) nothing but the best.
@universesixhit642 I don't mind at all. If there was one thing I could only do from this day forward, I'd take meditation in a heartbeat. Supposedly, it's the only thing that can physically improve the structure of the brain. At 1st, I could only manage a minute or 2. Now, a 34-minute session is regular, and there's a noticeable difference in my day if I do it or not. A calmer, more stable foundation to my emotions and thoughts throughout the day, if that makes sense. Minimal alcohol, good diet, hydrating... and smiling as often as possible. (Fake it til you feel it 😁 )
Awesome interview!! Struck so close to home for me! I can’t thank her enough for coming out and being honest !! It is so important to hear other people talk about the very same symptoms I have so I don’t feel so crazy!!! Thank you!!! Thank you!!!!
I'm not sure if Joe Rogan even reads all of these comments or not, but here goes nothing... While watching this... I emotionally fell apart. I was on my break at work, pulled up this clip and the next thing I know I was balling my eyes out. I wasn’t ready for this! I'm a career veteran dealing with PTSD while simultaneously trying to help others find the courage to seek help, and educate those around me by dispelling the stereotypes that tend to dominate this topic. This interview absolutely broke my heart in that it's the best, most raw description of what me and so many in this circle have experienced!!! In listening to Cat I relived things I thought I had put to bed. I could see the faces of others I know in the fight. It's not all encompassing as everyone's experiences are there own but she absolutely nailed what me and many in my circle have struggled to express. I’ve learned that trying to explain what you are feeling is one of the most monumental obstacles for many to overcome. Which oddly, is one of the essential first steps in healing!? In many cases YOU know what you are feeling, but it’s so hard to put it into words and feel heard or acknowledged. For many, this compounds the confusion. It compounds the fear. It compounds the shame and makes you feel further broken. For many who are supposed to be “tough” (especially guys and fighters) this is manifested as anger and in turn spirals towards depression (if you're not already there!) or worse. Just in dissecting my issues I've discovered there are levels to each of the common or consistent symptoms. Like with fighters, military members are conditioned to "Succeed at all cost!'' Anyone with that Self Sacrifice mentality really. So for me, the "Gas pedal/ adrenaline" aspect was on point! That was my life for the last 10 years! The aspect of being present but not recollecting anything to the final moment before "GO!" then the panic that ensues because you're lost so you hit the gas harder and just try and “be first!”, absolutely resonated with me! EVERY facet of what she described just hit my psyche. I mean literal mouth open, jaw dropped, stunned! This completely touched me, but again, broke my heart. I hate this disorder and that so many suffer in silence so I try and advocate for them but I never considered the fight community in all my contemplation of who to relate the condition to. With one of the biggest misconceptions of PTSD being "Who" it affects, through my journey I've continually increased the demographic to go as far as encompassing the 7 year old who just lost a pet but somehow missed the fight community. With knowing several local fighters and having been one (decades ago) I never considered or realized the correlation. Never again though! Thank you for prompting this discussion Mr Rogan and thank you Ms Zingano for such an open and absolutely raw representation of your struggle. Many of our struggles! I tuned into this clip because I've always had a respectable "thing" for Cat Zingano. Never in a hundred years did I expect to be shook to my core like this. If you are still reading this comment and you have someone in your life struggling with PTSD I ask that you share this clip with them. See what they think and if any of this resonates with them? There is no single catch all fix for PTSD, nor are there any two people suffering in the exact same way. But everyone's story can help another. There's always someone who can relate to Your situation. I’ve been dedicatedly studying and researching this topic and STILL this caught me and triggered an emotional response. Most importantly, it further inspired me to do more! For me and anyone else who I can bring on this journey. Thank you Cat Zingano! And thank you Joe Rogan! This is going in my toolkit.
Man I feel for this girl! She has been my favorite for a while now. I knew she had her problems but not like this. This girl had the skills to make it way farther than she did and it was all due to brain injury. The UFC are such turds! They should have to pay for her treatment! Love cat!
I totally agree ! Zingano and Carano are my heroes for many reasons : 1. Personal courage. 2. Tremendous character. 3. Decency. 4. Kindness, and many others too numerous to list.
My husband is a veteran of the 25th Infantry Division and also has a TBI from a motorcycle accident. STILL A WARRIOR! He's just fucked up now. What a journey with you baby ! Wouldn't trade it for the world. Richard, know this... I will never leave you I will never forget that you are injured. I shall never forsake you I WILL ALWAYS HAVE YOUR BACK. I WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU. I will always have your 6 Your wife Ann Marie
Woman is tough as nails. Both the Nunes fight and her fight with Tate were examples of super tough perseverance. Really likable person and a dominant ground & pounder.
This behaviour from the ufc/insurance company for the fighters is a disgrace! It saddens me to think these young kids or even vertrans are dying to break in to the ufc with the thought they'll be set up/looked medically is disgusting. This should be Dana White's highest priority to get this sorted out!!
She is so incredibly beautiful it hurts. Rooting for her now as a BA fighter, and just as a person. Cat, you will never read this..but I have the same issues from PTSD and many of the things you describe going through are exactly me. I have tried every way you can imagine, including being hypnotized(Didn't work🤣), just to force myself better. I'm going to look into this therapy now that you have used it, this could really help someone listening. Thank you for bravely sharing your truth, and showing me that we are never truly alone in our struggles. It could always be worse, and it won't get better with inaction. Mental illness can create a daily struggle to find a sense of peace..inside your own thoughts. Working out, running, and getting myself physically exhausted has helped channel some of the symptoms. I'm tired of meds and endless trial and error..so here goes nothing! Anyone going through mental health issues, you are not alone, seek help, you got this.❤
Wow! Thanks for all the info from interviewing Mrs. Zingano. I got KTFO from a parachute malfunction in '02 that broke 2 vertebrae (L-3 and L-5) in my back and 5 in my neck (C-2 thru C-6). I can understand trying to tough it out and pretend I'm OK. I didn't realize my head trauma until some time after the event. Found out I broke my back 3 years later and didn't know about my neck until 7 years later when I retired from the Army. God's speed to Cat.
OMG!!!! I hope you get well soon Katt!!! Watching this interview put a dramatic perspective on the damage you have taken it is very noticeable. I am gonna pray for you Kat 🙏🙏.
I LOVE HER!! as a fighter. I love her as a person, and as a shinning example of the potential for human goodness. She is a "Noble Savage", and a tender caring beast. More Cat Zinganos, please
I'm really sorry that happened to you Cat. I'm glad that you are receiving treatment and seeing some results. If you recover from this completely............ PLEASE DON'T SPAR OR FIGHT ANYMORE. You've done your time............ Time for a new profession. YOU WILL DEFINITELY BE MISSED.
Traumatic brain injury followed by 18 months of recovery. A lot of times you look fine on the outside. Still don't feel right, been 5 years. But I power up every day and make the most of it!
Dana white and the fruititas have over 500 million each at least And they can’t each throw Cat 100 grand each, wtf When people are in need scumbags are nowhere to be seen
I love Cat, but i seriously wish she wouldn't fight again. Some of the new therapies she's talked about can help with cte and other head trauma related problems, but no, we can not reverse or repair all the damage. Also it's the snowball effect, damage makes you more susceptible to more damage and it just gets worse and worse.
Yeah, I've always loved the courage, skill, technique, endurance, and just everything about what it takes to fight. But seeing people lose their lives to it, and I don't even mean death I just mean injuries that control the rest of their lives makes it too hard for me to support. If everyone was Wolverine I'd be all for it, but it's not worth it to me for someone to lose so much just for me to be entertained.
My father was a prize fighter and had some concussions over his career and he quit early and thank goodness and he's okay. Some fighters are not so lucky they have some sort of brain damage or neurological disorders due to fighting. Later in life their speech is slurred, thinking is slow I wouldn't recommend fighting rather find a different line of work.
I Love this girl. I always have. I was still watching a lot of MMA when she was fighting and female divisions were first taking off. I've always loved her. No matter what she does.
Great convo with Cat Joe. Great guest choice. I have always been a fan! She is such a warrior! I have had some concussions in the Marine Corps and agree they are a challenge. You battle trying to balance trying to deny you have an issue vs. wait why am I on a roller coaster and what is wrong with me. When you are young or an elite athlete, it is hard to admit you are not all there with TBI. One took my eye sight in my left eye for a week. My wife swears that one had an affect on my personality, but it mellowed out a little over the years.
I had a head trauma caused by car accident, when I as 8. Some months only moving my right arm. A lot of fisiotherapy, OT, musictherapy, rehabilitation center... Some faith. Some time passes, my left arm comes back, listening to the radio, wanna pee, heey, hello legs. Gradually. . Yet at some point the recovery just stopped. I can't to this date play any musical instrument whatsoever (which is fully ironic by itself, because my father who caused the accident is a professional musician) I remember that before the accident my school's music teacher at the piano played some song and gave me a big drum which you hold laterally on your thigh to play it. I remember she instructed everybody with a certain rhythm, which I was the one able to do it + add something else to the mixture and go with the flow. I remember to this day the eye of approval she gave me and how fun that was. . After the accident I could barely hold the drum, while vertically on the ground. . Always the last guy picked in sports.... well. More recently attained to martial arts too. But (if you're commited you don't even allow yourself to think about it but, yea) yea, you miss the little silly things you know you would could do, and that make a lot of difference in the medium run, if not the fact that you just can't. At the least with the left side of the body in my case. Compromised coordination, compromised strength. . It's really a pity cause I really have (innate) passion for both of these arts. (in music I, never let myself go much in the proccess of creating it, cause I know for me it will be of no avail. Many tries in different instruments, same result. Even as the passionate classical/metalhead I am) . Well... Drama pause. Just want to say that the fear of checking in just to find out that you can't be fixed is VERY real. Aside from logistical/family reasons, is definetely a presence of why I didn't for so long. 24 years... Man. Yet, this gave me REAL hope for the first time in MANY years. Thank you Joe, thank you Cat. :')
The way Cat Zingano described hearing someone coming but still being startled is so true, I hate it and no matter what I tell Myself it happens. The Treatment sounds promising :).
Why cant people figure this out its hell of obvious. Once you fight or live through combat its not possible to go back to normal life. Your Brain is wired different, plus you’re relationship to society changes. Society only sees feelings positive or negative. When you fight you have that dark energy. Makes you feel like you’re in a void.
Damn I'm sorry 😞 to hear Cat Zingano got permanent brain damage. While I'm glad she came back against Amanda Nunes, I wish Cat wouldn't have gotten permanent brain damage 😔. I know how it feels to have anxiety, I can relate to her in terms of getting startled easily. Which is why I also take medication to control my anxiety. I'm glad that she stays up on her medication and is doing well otherwise. As for her husband committing suicide I know that must be very hard on Cat to deal with on the inside. I know if I was Cat's husband I wouldn't have committed suicide, because whatever problems I would be going through I would get help. I love Cat Zingano she is in my favorite besides Holly Holm.
My mother hit her head in a car accident and her symptoms are almost identical to cat's. Im going to research this myself but can anyone post some links or direct me to more informaton on the treatment process?
Love Cat as a person/fighter,but what she is experiencing is irreversible brain damage. I can not believe her inner circle has not warned her in no uncertain terms that she will pay the piper if she continues to get hit in the head. If she continues to fight,her story will not have a happy ending
Mark Landry i know man smh as someone who has head trauma related issues hearing her say that stuff makes me so sad. A lot of the therapies she's talking about can help some, but they're nowhere nearly as effective as she's acting. we can not reverse or repair all the damage, and the damage just makes you more susceptible to more damage and it snowballs...
Gaber820 yeah i definitely get it, but if someone gets lung cancer from smoking 2 packs a day, they probably shouldn't go back to smoking as soon as the cancer goes into remission... The only problem i have is the way she keeps acting like they know how to fix CTE now because most of those therapies aren't nearly as effective as she's letting on and are almost a placebo. I'm not mad at her haha, I understand it's easy to get excited about something you think can help you, but that gives some people false hope and can even keep some young people from realizing how serious CTE actually is.
Why? She made a choice where she must have known that this lunacy would put her into a situation where the ramifications down the road will ruin her life....its like the fool that decides to smoke, even though there is a factual hazard doing this...
Respect to you girl never give up she trys other things if the thing she is doing doesn't work for her good for you I hope you have nothing but positive outcomes for the rest of your life ✌️🇬🇧👍
I can feel her struggle and hope I can achieve my dream to become one day a multitrionnaire so that I could do anything for her. I want her to be happy.
Cat is a great 👍 fighter, and a wonderful ambassador for the sport and head trauma. Please stop fighting, you don’t need anymore head trauma. You can train, teach, many talents.
You were and are my fav UFC female fighter. You beat Amanda, So you know how great a fighter you are. Kind of leaves a really bad taste in your mouth knowing how much the UFC is profiting while their "employees" are giving everything they got to get treated like this. Hang in there girl, You're still number 1 in a lot of our hearts.
I took a 2 gram dose of psilocybin mushrooms for a trip and it made me feel like my brain got a tune up. i had a speech impediment with pronouncing the letter r.now i can say it like the english do with a roll cos thats how im suppose to say it in my language norwegian. i also had a lack of what the psycologist call "super ego" that also fired up for the first time 25 years overdue.didnt develope that in my teens due to both a bit of aspergers and living in a very dominant subdued envoriment at home in my upbringing. i can hear songs better when I play them in my mind and nature and colors have gotten a slight richer hue to them. it seems that the psilocin in psycedelic mushrooms have fixed some things and tuned up some tings in my mind. maybe it can also redeem injured braincells due to trauma etc. im only guessing. but i read somewhere psilocin can create new neural paths. it sure makes sense to me.
I can completely sympathize with her plight I got into a car crash about 14yrs ago and got a really bad concussion and I had very similar symptoms for years after. The doctor tried putting me on antidepressants which just made it all worse. The drug had the effect of like flushing all my brain chemicals out and I was just dull for about 2 years. It was pure hell (like zero joy in life, no brain stimuli brought joy or sadness just DULL, no effect from good tasting food, sex, etc.) and thankfully my brain just naturally brought itself back after several years. I don’t wish that on anyone. Oddest effect out of all of it was my bowels, I’d go into it more but it’s TMI.
I looked up the procedure and it's still experimental patent pending and not yet FDA approved. Even if it brings you back to apparent normality we don't just how long the remission will last. Like the boxing and football types of brain damage that can take a long time to cause physical and mental illness we don't know where these MMA fighters are going to end up even if they show no signs now. Cat already has considerable brain damage. That puts her at super risk if she gets hit again. Cat is great athlete and I love her. It would be devastating to me to see her end up a basket case or dead. Imagine her poor soon losing another parent.
I love you Cat! You didnt just win your fights you destroyed your adversary's.You are as beautiful as you are skilled and tough. I could die happy with you! Hope you have the best of luck forever after! B. T. W. Have you ever considered yourself a natural killer and taken damage doing what you do best, breaking souls physically.
She should’ve been given a rematch against Ronda. Dana protected Ronda because if she lost, his cash cow would dry up. Same with McGregor before he lost to Diaz.
@@Sideler74 Because Conor lost and wanted a rematch. Conor got it because he was already a champion. Sorry but champions get special consideration. Its one of the perks.
She is a good looking lady with a good personality that has had some bad luck in life with husband death and now brain issues. Being at the end of her career in fighting with maybe 2 or 3 years left to fight competitively she should quit while ahead and become a fitness model, gym owner or personality. She always had a rockin body in the ring and pretty sure if she ran a gym plenty of women would join because she has toughness, vulnerability and competed at the highest level.
Sometimes, when life put these obstacles in front of you, moving on to something else is the best answer. Way too many issues to be fighting. Go back to school and take care of your kids.
Tell cat to check herself for eagle syndrom. Its elongation of stylhoid process under ear. It causes random pain anywhere inside the body and other physio-neurologic symptoms. I love to see her back with full potential.
8:00 Joe if you're surprised insurance won't cover it then welcome to American healthcare. I get the feeling that MMA is going to have lawsuits from its fighters like the NFL did to cover these kinds of injuries that are clearly sustained while participating in these sports and should be covered by insurance. M4A!
I once hit my head on the concrete real hard. I was NOT knocked out, but I also was punch drunk afterwards. I started shaking after that. I was experiencing anxiety and startle reflex also. I just assumed I was getting old. I wasnt like this before. Now I know I have brain damage.
This is true. I got headaches and a few days latter I went to the hospital and got my head checked. It is documented. I have startle reflex problems. Can't control it. Not in fear. It is reflex.
this is scary shit, not surprising, it's just like head trauma in impact sports like american football - I just pray the best for this tough Lady. She is so relateable and open, don't mess
She's right. Grew up boxing. Working white collar job. Loud noise triggers me. We have catlike reflexes that just starts itself. People who never fought don't get it.
This girl is getting treatment for CTE and she keeps fighting. It's like a drug addict going to rehab while using drugs. If you get your pituitary gland smashed, no treatment will help you there.
I thought she retired because of her brain injury but she’s competing in Bellator. In the end it will get worse. CTE is no joke Probably she have no choice and need the money.
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This was an amazing interview. Cat, stop fighting, there is more to life.
Completely agree man well said
Brain injury awareness is real
@Harry Garrett she can find other work
@Harry Garrett WTF is youre problem
She's now fighting again in Bellator. It's tough to see, because she in no way resembles herself before she got all this head damage. Hurts my soul...
Anyone not knowledgeable about Cat watch the Nunes fight back and watch the beating she took in the first two rounds.
To come back and stop Amanda Nunes the way she did was one of the great female MMA performances.
Correction first round only
First round. She beat her up the next 2 rounds. Nunez didnt do anything after the 1st.
First one round the second Cat was on top almost straight four minutes and finished Nunes in the third
Omg, what a fight. UFC should chip in some cash here, that was one of the greatest ever fights. Dana is a billionaire more or less ffs.
Totally!!! I just recently watched the fight! It was a crazy scramble!
I have a brother whose behavior has changed significantly ever since a rash of incidents he was involved in, including a few street fights and a four-wheeler accident. He used to be a great hockey player, full of spunk, great with the ladies, protective over me and my sister, funny as hell and just the best big brother. Now he's been depressed for years, suffers from paranoia, can't hold a job, struggles with eating and his sleep cycle is way out of whack. He ended up in a psych ward for a few weeks after an episode where he just stopped eating to the point where he couldn't get out of bed without our dads help. They doped him up on meds which kind of helped but really only masked what was really going on. This podcast has given me hope that maybe, just maybe there is something out there that can help see what is going on in my big brothers head, and possibly help get him back to even 75% of his normal self. I now have hope thanks to Cat for being vocal about her injury and her struggles.
Same (hope) here man. Godspeed.
Tell him to try psilocybin. Amazing recovery stories with that
Also sorry how is your brother going now
Ryan Bush please don’t do this, this is mystical thinking
@@cianbroderick4145 shrooms are still great for depression though
Still dealing with some of my military career PTSD (and I got out in 1999). Doing MUCH better but chased a lot of "remedies" over the years as well.. some work (meditation), some don't.
Thank you for being so open about this Cat. Wish I could give you a hug and let you know you're not alone, but I'll just wish you (and your son) nothing but the best.
Sorry to hear.
Meditation works amazingly.
What stuff works for you if you don't mind me asking as I have C-pTSD.
@universesixhit642 I don't mind at all. If there was one thing I could only do from this day forward, I'd take meditation in a heartbeat. Supposedly, it's the only thing that can physically improve the structure of the brain. At 1st, I could only manage a minute or 2. Now, a 34-minute session is regular, and there's a noticeable difference in my day if I do it or not. A calmer, more stable foundation to my emotions and thoughts throughout the day, if that makes sense. Minimal alcohol, good diet, hydrating... and smiling as often as possible. (Fake it til you feel it 😁 )
Awesome interview!! Struck so close to home for me! I can’t thank her enough for coming out and being honest !! It is so important to hear other people talk about the very same symptoms I have so I don’t feel so crazy!!! Thank you!!! Thank you!!!!
This chick went through so much in her life, what a warrior!!! Have always been a huge fan, keep wearing that title proudly....Alpha-Cat!!!
I love Cat. I admire this girl.
Cat: Hey ufc i have brain damage, can you guys help me out with that
Ufc: sure, were gonna book a fight for u with cyborg santos....
yeah...ridiculous
🤣🤣🤣
It’s like Vince McMahon with the wwe
Sad now she is in Bellator with Santos
@@stevesmith9459 Wow 🤦🏾♂️ These fighters were taught not to throw in the towel
this may be one of the most important interviews Joe has done relating to sports!
I'm not sure if Joe Rogan even reads all of these comments or not, but here goes nothing... While watching this... I emotionally fell apart. I was on my break at work, pulled up this clip and the next thing I know I was balling my eyes out. I wasn’t ready for this! I'm a career veteran dealing with PTSD while simultaneously trying to help others find the courage to seek help, and educate those around me by dispelling the stereotypes that tend to dominate this topic.
This interview absolutely broke my heart in that it's the best, most raw description of what me and so many in this circle have experienced!!! In listening to Cat I relived things I thought I had put to bed. I could see the faces of others I know in the fight. It's not all encompassing as everyone's experiences are there own but she absolutely nailed what me and many in my circle have struggled to express. I’ve learned that trying to explain what you are feeling is one of the most monumental obstacles for many to overcome. Which oddly, is one of the essential first steps in healing!? In many cases YOU know what you are feeling, but it’s so hard to put it into words and feel heard or acknowledged. For many, this compounds the confusion. It compounds the fear. It compounds the shame and makes you feel further broken. For many who are supposed to be “tough” (especially guys and fighters) this is manifested as anger and in turn spirals towards depression (if you're not already there!) or worse.
Just in dissecting my issues I've discovered there are levels to each of the common or consistent symptoms. Like with fighters, military members are conditioned to "Succeed at all cost!'' Anyone with that Self Sacrifice mentality really. So for me, the "Gas pedal/ adrenaline" aspect was on point! That was my life for the last 10 years! The aspect of being present but not recollecting anything to the final moment before "GO!" then the panic that ensues because you're lost so you hit the gas harder and just try and “be first!”, absolutely resonated with me! EVERY facet of what she described just hit my psyche. I mean literal mouth open, jaw dropped, stunned! This completely touched me, but again, broke my heart. I hate this disorder and that so many suffer in silence so I try and advocate for them but I never considered the fight community in all my contemplation of who to relate the condition to.
With one of the biggest misconceptions of PTSD being "Who" it affects, through my journey I've continually increased the demographic to go as far as encompassing the 7 year old who just lost a pet but somehow missed the fight community. With knowing several local fighters and having been one (decades ago) I never considered or realized the correlation. Never again though!
Thank you for prompting this discussion Mr Rogan and thank you Ms Zingano for such an open and absolutely raw representation of your struggle. Many of our struggles! I tuned into this clip because I've always had a respectable "thing" for Cat Zingano. Never in a hundred years did I expect to be shook to my core like this. If you are still reading this comment and you have someone in your life struggling with PTSD I ask that you share this clip with them. See what they think and if any of this resonates with them? There is no single catch all fix for PTSD, nor are there any two people suffering in the exact same way. But everyone's story can help another. There's always someone who can relate to Your situation. I’ve been dedicatedly studying and researching this topic and STILL this caught me and triggered an emotional response. Most importantly, it further inspired me to do more! For me and anyone else who I can bring on this journey. Thank you Cat Zingano! And thank you Joe Rogan! This is going in my toolkit.
Unless you have been there people can’t understand. They look you on the outside and think you are fine.
So many words dawg😅
I love you Cat, but if you have brain damage from fighting, find something else to do for a living. You have the courage, you can do it!
Man I feel for this girl! She has been my favorite for a while now. I knew she had her problems but not like this. This girl had the skills to make it way farther than she did and it was all due to brain injury. The UFC are such turds! They should have to pay for her treatment! Love cat!
UFC is crap. They dont give a shyt about fighters.
I wonder what Nunes is thinking.??
I totally agree ! Zingano and Carano are my heroes for many reasons :
1. Personal courage.
2. Tremendous character.
3. Decency.
4. Kindness,
and many others too numerous to list.
I love you Cat! You are a warrior!!! I hope you get the healing you seek, Not just so you can fight, but so you can be happy and healthy!!!
My husband is a veteran of the 25th Infantry Division and also has a TBI from a motorcycle accident.
STILL A WARRIOR!
He's just fucked up now.
What a journey with you baby ! Wouldn't trade it for the world.
Richard, know this...
I will never leave you
I will never forget that you are injured.
I shall never forsake you
I WILL ALWAYS HAVE YOUR BACK.
I WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU.
I will always have your
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Your wife Ann Marie
I hope your husband is doing better im with 25th also 4-25 Airborne Infantry in Alaska God bless you guys take care
Woman is tough as nails. Both the Nunes fight and her fight with Tate were examples of super tough perseverance. Really likable person and a dominant ground & pounder.
This behaviour from the ufc/insurance company for the fighters is a disgrace! It saddens me to think these young kids or even vertrans are dying to break in to the ufc with the thought they'll be set up/looked medically is disgusting. This should be Dana White's highest priority to get this sorted out!!
this is the first time ive heard cat speak and she sounds like a sweet heart
She is so incredibly beautiful it hurts.
Rooting for her now as a BA fighter, and just as a person.
Cat, you will never read this..but I have the same issues from PTSD and many of the things you describe going through are exactly me. I have tried every way you can imagine, including being hypnotized(Didn't work🤣), just to force myself better. I'm going to look into this therapy now that you have used it, this could really help someone listening. Thank you for bravely sharing your truth, and showing me that we are never truly alone in our struggles. It could always be worse, and it won't get better with inaction. Mental illness can create a daily struggle to find a sense of peace..inside your own thoughts. Working out, running, and getting myself physically exhausted has helped channel some of the symptoms. I'm tired of meds and endless trial and error..so here goes nothing!
Anyone going through mental health issues, you are not alone, seek help, you got this.❤
TheGummybearMassacre ❤️
LadyGlitterSparkleSrsly she said she reads the comments
Brutal honesty. Thank you
And the UFC wont cover her injury. Well done guys.
Dana White is a snakeoil salesman
UFC is like a shithole on a pig,they dont care but to squeeze the last penny out of you and then GFY.
The great Fedor Emilianenko once said Dana White needs to give more respect to his fighters that’s why he won’t come to UFC
Culture is not her friend.
So pathetic...put Dana in the octagon...with the fighter of your choice...if he survives, he's bound to change his attitude.
Wow! Thanks for all the info from interviewing Mrs. Zingano. I got KTFO from a parachute malfunction in '02 that broke 2 vertebrae (L-3 and L-5) in my back and 5 in my neck (C-2 thru C-6). I can understand trying to tough it out and pretend I'm OK. I didn't realize my head trauma until some time after the event. Found out I broke my back 3 years later and didn't know about my neck until 7 years later when I retired from the Army. God's speed to Cat.
Joe is absolutely right. Long term head/brain injuries don’t immediately present themselves. Definitely need a larger window for a claim.
OMG!!!!
I hope you get well soon Katt!!!
Watching this interview put a dramatic perspective on the damage you have taken it is very noticeable.
I am gonna pray for you Kat 🙏🙏.
I did this treatment as it’s called bio feed back . It’s helped me in so many ways
(google aside) where I can specifically learn about it bro?
I had CTE when I was 8.
Yo what is that
I LOVE HER!!
as a fighter. I love her as a person, and as a shinning example of the potential for human goodness.
She is a "Noble Savage", and a tender caring beast. More Cat Zinganos, please
I'm really sorry that happened to you Cat. I'm glad that you are receiving treatment and seeing some results. If you recover from this completely............ PLEASE DON'T SPAR OR FIGHT ANYMORE. You've done your time............ Time for a new profession. YOU WILL DEFINITELY BE MISSED.
Traumatic brain injury followed by 18 months of recovery. A lot of times you look fine on the outside. Still don't feel right, been 5 years. But I power up every day and make the most of it!
what happened?
How about Dana takes some of his millions and covers her bills
Don't fight if you can't accept the consequences. They all know the risks involved.
Dana white and the fruititas have over 500 million each at least
And they can’t each throw Cat 100 grand each, wtf
When people are in need scumbags are nowhere to be seen
So that she will fight again? How stupid are you. She will heal only if she gives up fighting.
He's a low life dirtbag that simply uses fighters then discards them like toilet paper .
@@bridawg24 Yep there always has to be at least one of you people out there .
Such hardships she's been facing. I wish the best for her and her family.
I love that woman. Beautiful in and out.
That's too bad. She's one of my favorite fighters. God Bless You 🙏
Wow! That interview is heartbreaking.Cat you are the best, and always will be. Wishing you great health and happiness!❤️❤️
This is why I’m glad I’m not a fighter bad bad for your brains I pray for you cat you’re amazing.
I love Cat, but i seriously wish she wouldn't fight again. Some of the new therapies she's talked about can help with cte and other head trauma related problems, but no, we can not reverse or repair all the damage.
Also it's the snowball effect, damage makes you more susceptible to more damage and it just gets worse and worse.
Yeah, I've always loved the courage, skill, technique, endurance, and just everything about what it takes to fight. But seeing people lose their lives to it, and I don't even mean death I just mean injuries that control the rest of their lives makes it too hard for me to support. If everyone was Wolverine I'd be all for it, but it's not worth it to me for someone to lose so much just for me to be entertained.
ward.
This woman is a fighter in all aspects of life!
Respect!
i hope she gets better great person.
ya man I love this gal... she speaks with truth and that's someone you can learn from. Im a big fan
My father was a prize fighter and had some concussions over his career and he quit early and thank goodness and he's okay. Some fighters are not so lucky they have some sort of brain damage or neurological disorders due to fighting. Later in life their speech is slurred, thinking is slow I wouldn't recommend fighting rather find a different line of work.
Does he ever seem like he's got brain damage?
8:23 tells you everything you need to know about a company that was sold for 4.025 BILLION dollars!
This is a concern for the UFC. We need to look into this more.
I Love this girl. I always have. I was still watching a lot of MMA when she was fighting and female divisions were first taking off. I've always loved her. No matter what she does.
Great convo with Cat Joe. Great guest choice. I have always been a fan! She is such a warrior! I have had some concussions in the Marine Corps and agree they are a challenge. You battle trying to balance trying to deny you have an issue vs. wait why am I on a roller coaster and what is wrong with me. When you are young or an elite athlete, it is hard to admit you are not all there with TBI. One took my eye sight in my left eye for a week. My wife swears that one had an affect on my personality, but it mellowed out a little over the years.
Cat im just glad you feel better. Point blank. Stay healthy. Loved you as a fighter. God bless
I had a head trauma caused by car accident, when I as 8.
Some months only moving my right arm. A lot of fisiotherapy, OT, musictherapy, rehabilitation center... Some faith. Some time passes, my left arm comes back, listening to the radio, wanna pee, heey, hello legs. Gradually.
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Yet at some point the recovery just stopped.
I can't to this date play any musical instrument whatsoever (which is fully ironic by itself, because my father who caused the accident is a professional musician) I remember that before the accident my school's music teacher at the piano played some song and gave me a big drum which you hold laterally on your thigh to play it. I remember she instructed everybody with a certain rhythm, which I was the one able to do it + add something else to the mixture and go with the flow. I remember to this day the eye of approval she gave me and how fun that was.
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After the accident I could barely hold the drum, while vertically on the ground.
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Always the last guy picked in sports.... well.
More recently attained to martial arts too. But (if you're commited you don't even allow yourself to think about it but, yea) yea, you miss the little silly things you know you would could do, and that make a lot of difference in the medium run, if not the fact that you just can't.
At the least with the left side of the body in my case. Compromised coordination, compromised strength.
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It's really a pity cause I really have (innate) passion for both of these arts.
(in music I, never let myself go much in the proccess of creating it, cause I know for me it will be of no avail. Many tries in different instruments, same result. Even as the passionate classical/metalhead I am)
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Well... Drama pause.
Just want to say that the fear of checking in just to find out that you can't be fixed is VERY real. Aside from logistical/family reasons, is definetely a presence of why I didn't for so long.
24 years... Man.
Yet, this gave me REAL hope for the first time in MANY years.
Thank you Joe, thank you Cat. :')
Awwsome chick. God bless her on her recovery.
You are an amazing person Cat
Don't forget, her husband commited suicide several years ago.
That just makes everything worse.
Lets not pretend she didn’t drive him to it.
@@poopyhole101 what happend between them
That’s so fucked up. Cat’s a nice person you evil turd.
The way Cat Zingano described hearing someone coming but still being startled is so true, I hate it and no matter what I tell Myself it happens. The Treatment sounds promising :).
They say what doesn't kill ya makes you stronger . And you Cat Zingano , are one bad ass lady !! Wish you and your son all the best .
Why cant people figure this out its hell of obvious. Once you fight or live through combat its not possible to go back to normal life. Your Brain is wired different, plus you’re relationship to society changes. Society only sees feelings positive or negative. When you fight you have that dark energy. Makes you feel like you’re in a void.
The dark side of the UFC. She's still awesome even if she never sets another foot in the octagon.
Damn I'm sorry 😞 to hear Cat Zingano got permanent brain damage. While I'm glad she came back against Amanda Nunes, I wish Cat wouldn't have gotten permanent brain damage 😔.
I know how it feels to have anxiety, I can relate to her in terms of getting startled easily. Which is why I also take medication to control my anxiety.
I'm glad that she stays up on her medication and is doing well otherwise. As for her husband committing suicide I know that must be very hard on Cat to deal with on the inside.
I know if I was Cat's husband I wouldn't have committed suicide, because whatever problems I would be going through I would get help. I love Cat Zingano she is in my favorite besides Holly Holm.
My mother hit her head in a car accident and her symptoms are almost identical to cat's. Im going to research this myself but can anyone post some links or direct me to more informaton on the treatment process?
I hope your mom makes a full recovery.
HARD WARD
(CTE at 8 years old here)
How’s your mother going now will?
What a lovely lady - thanks for this interview.
Love Cat as a person/fighter,but what she is experiencing is irreversible brain damage. I can not believe her inner circle has not warned her in no uncertain terms that she will pay the piper if she continues to get hit in the head. If she continues to fight,her story will not have a happy ending
@Steven Pitts Capitalism
Thanks Cat and Joe for this information! This could help a lot of people.
I'm sure you know your tolerances more than anyone,but your life should mean so much more to yiu! We love you Cat!
they fixed my brain so ill go back to fighting......
Mark Landry i know man smh as someone who has head trauma related issues hearing her say that stuff makes me so sad.
A lot of the therapies she's talking about can help some, but they're nowhere nearly as effective as she's acting. we can not reverse or repair all the damage, and the damage just makes you more susceptible to more damage and it snowballs...
It's what she knows man. I get it. I'm not saying it's the best situation but as a human I can empathize with her situation.
Gaber820 yeah i definitely get it, but if someone gets lung cancer from smoking 2 packs a day, they probably shouldn't go back to smoking as soon as the cancer goes into remission...
The only problem i have is the way she keeps acting like they know how to fix CTE now because most of those therapies aren't nearly as effective as she's letting on and are almost a placebo. I'm not mad at her haha, I understand it's easy to get excited about something you think can help you, but that gives some people false hope and can even keep some young people from realizing how serious CTE actually is.
Yes, you wouldn't understand
Lol
Poor girl. She needs help it's obvious. Prayers for her.
Why? She made a choice where she must have known that this lunacy would put her into a situation where the ramifications down the road will ruin her life....its like the fool that decides to smoke, even though there is a factual hazard doing this...
Dude, she's at the edge of tears like... Constantly. WTF? Damn
Depression is a bitch sometimes. There are some days where I spend hours like that
Respect to you girl never give up she trys other things if the thing she is doing doesn't work for her good for you I hope you have nothing but positive outcomes for the rest of your life ✌️🇬🇧👍
Cat please stop fighting you are too beautiful and smart
I am a huge fan of Cat after hearing this podcast !
I can feel her struggle and hope I can achieve my dream to become one day a multitrionnaire so that I could do anything for her. I want her to be happy.
Sad to hear what this great, MMA warrior is going through.
Cat is a great 👍 fighter, and a wonderful ambassador for the sport and head trauma. Please stop fighting, you don’t need anymore head trauma. You can train, teach, many talents.
kat is a true warrior, great person also
Love you Alpha Cat🙏🏼🖤
I am glad she is doing better! I love female MMA fighters, tough, talented ladies! Cat Zingano, Miesha Tate, Ronda Rousey, Holly Holm etc. 👍👍
Just now saw this! Great interview!!! Great info !!
Played hockey 23 years, can confirm cognitive issues (not to mention the physical ones) later in life, you learn to deal or you go bat chit.
How many hits did you sustain to the head
She's always been my favorite fighter, she beat Amanda Nunez!
You were and are my fav UFC female fighter. You beat Amanda, So you know how great a fighter you are. Kind of leaves a really bad taste in your mouth knowing how much the UFC is profiting while their "employees" are giving everything they got to get treated like this. Hang in there girl, You're still number 1 in a lot of our hearts.
I took a 2 gram dose of psilocybin mushrooms for a trip and it made me feel like my brain got a tune up. i had a speech impediment with pronouncing the letter r.now i can say it like the english do with a roll cos thats how im suppose to say it in my language norwegian. i also had a lack of what the psycologist call "super ego" that also fired up for the first time 25 years overdue.didnt develope that in my teens due to both a bit of aspergers and living in a very dominant subdued envoriment at home in my upbringing. i can hear songs better when I play them in my mind and nature and colors have gotten a slight richer hue to them. it seems that the psilocin in psycedelic mushrooms have fixed some things and tuned up some tings in my mind. maybe it can also redeem injured braincells due to trauma etc. im only guessing. but i read somewhere psilocin can create new neural paths. it sure makes sense to me.
love you Cat!!! nough said... be well and for always
I think Ronda might have gotten brain damage too from her fight with Amanda we’ve just never heard her talk about it.
I can completely sympathize with her plight I got into a car crash about 14yrs ago and got a really bad concussion and I had very similar symptoms for years after. The doctor tried putting me on antidepressants which just made it all worse. The drug had the effect of like flushing all my brain chemicals out and I was just dull for about 2 years. It was pure hell (like zero joy in life, no brain stimuli brought joy or sadness just DULL, no effect from good tasting food, sex, etc.) and thankfully my brain just naturally brought itself back after several years. I don’t wish that on anyone. Oddest effect out of all of it was my bowels, I’d go into it more but it’s TMI.
Tommy man that sounds exactly what I’m going through. Can I send you an email man? I’m really struggling at the moment
@@TheBushRanger. any info on this, did you take this course
What is the treatment that’s helping her called?
I believe she is referring to TMS (Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation)
I looked up the procedure and it's still experimental patent pending and not yet FDA approved. Even if it brings you back to apparent normality we don't just how long the remission will last. Like the boxing and football types of brain damage that can take a long time to cause physical and mental illness we don't know where these MMA fighters are going to end up even if they show no signs now. Cat already has considerable brain damage. That puts her at super risk if she gets hit again. Cat is great athlete and I love her. It would be devastating to me to see her end up a basket case or dead. Imagine her poor soon losing another parent.
I love you Cat! You didnt just win your fights you destroyed your adversary's.You are as beautiful as you are skilled and tough. I could die happy with you! Hope you have the best of luck forever after! B. T. W. Have you ever considered yourself a natural killer and taken damage doing what you do best, breaking souls physically.
She should’ve been given a rematch against Ronda. Dana protected Ronda because if she lost, his cash cow would dry up. Same with McGregor before he lost to Diaz.
Not how it works. The only person who gets an automatic rematch is a dethroned champion. Cat needed to win her fights after Ronda but she didn't.
@@luvfreedom1470 Yea because Conor rematched Diaz because why?
@@Sideler74 Because Conor lost and wanted a rematch. Conor got it because he was already a champion. Sorry but champions get special consideration. Its one of the perks.
@@luvfreedom1470 Conor was finished, it wasn't even close. lol
@@Sideler74 Uh okay? What the hell is your point? Conor lost and got a rematch because he was a champion. Pretty simple...
Cat, you are brave. thank you!
This is why my children don't fight MMA fights even though they are trained for it. They just do BJJ tournaments.
Does anyone know how to get a hold of his doctor in San Diego? Thank you
All time favorite female fighter love her amazing person . Wish I had the chance to get to meet her just for a few minutes .
I have 2nd thoughts about keeping my son in muay thai. Seems that CTE is far too common among fighters.
It's inevitable. Not meant to be punched and kicked in the head...
She is a good looking lady with a good personality that has had some bad luck in life with husband death and now brain issues. Being at the end of her career in fighting with maybe 2 or 3 years left to fight competitively she should quit while ahead and become a fitness model, gym owner or personality. She always had a rockin body in the ring and pretty sure if she ran a gym plenty of women would join because she has toughness, vulnerability and competed at the highest level.
Sometimes, when life put these obstacles in front of you, moving on to something else is the best answer. Way too many issues to be fighting. Go back to school and take care of your kids.
Tell cat to check herself for eagle syndrom. Its elongation of stylhoid process under ear. It causes random pain anywhere inside the body and other physio-neurologic symptoms. I love to see her back with full potential.
8:00 Joe if you're surprised insurance won't cover it then welcome to American healthcare. I get the feeling that MMA is going to have lawsuits from its fighters like the NFL did to cover these kinds of injuries that are clearly sustained while participating in these sports and should be covered by insurance. M4A!
Shes The HOTTEST Female MMA Fighter I've ever seen..!! My goodness!
Gina Carano is where its at. Michelle waterson amd miesha tate too
Barbara Nepomuceno is the best looking mma fighter. Google her. See her IG. Trust me!!!!!!
@arborcidal maniac Lol you are crazy. Gina is hot too of course but Barbara is another level
Jessica Penne ya'll!
Honda housey
Cat is awesome , damn shame she wasn’t the champ , I bet Amanda won’t ever forget her !!
So where did she go for treatment.?
I once hit my head on the concrete real hard. I was NOT knocked out, but I also was punch drunk afterwards. I started shaking after that. I was experiencing anxiety and startle reflex also. I just assumed I was getting old. I wasnt like this before. Now I know I have brain damage.
This is true. I got headaches and a few days latter I went to the hospital and got my head checked. It is documented. I have startle reflex problems. Can't control it. Not in fear. It is reflex.
"It's 45 minutes away. Both ways."
Times differ in directions due to traffic sometimes
this is scary shit, not surprising, it's just like head trauma in impact sports like american football - I just pray the best for this tough Lady. She is so relateable and open, don't mess
its just like head trauma in LIFE, man.
She's right. Grew up boxing. Working white collar job. Loud noise triggers me. We have catlike reflexes that just starts itself. People who never fought don't get it.
Please include link for Eco scope link, haven't been able to find it yet on google
This girl is getting treatment for CTE and she keeps fighting. It's like a drug addict going to rehab while using drugs. If you get your pituitary gland smashed, no treatment will help you there.
I thought she retired because of her brain injury but she’s competing in Bellator.
In the end it will get worse.
CTE is no joke
Probably she have no choice and need the money.
cat is badass ! love watching her fights !
i love Cat first .