Remember when jelly werewolf was introduced and was super weird. The funny thing is that a couple days later when jelly ww was finally a advanced role, gww stopped appearing in sandbox. Alpha was brought back after weeks of them not being in sandbox. One day I will be able to play as jelly ww, immediately not like the role but use it anyways.
Idk don't people always vote Cupid and cursed if they know their role because even though they can technically be good, Cupid can be seen as insti, and cursed is just inevitable to get turned now that people know your role
actually Zombie and Pacifist are the only right ones here, but I filled the bottom spots with two roles I have never played with and so I gave them average ratings of 4-5-6 (Creativity-Balance-Fun), those roles being Pumpkin King and Easter bunny. These two roles can easily be higher, but I just put them there because I am kinda clueless on how good/bad they actually are. So it would look like this: 83. Zombie (9/30) 82. Regular werewolf (13/30) 81. Pumpkin King (15/30) 80. Easter bunny (15/30) 79. Pacifist (15/30)
In my opinion, the best role from how I'd do CBF is actually sheriff. C: 10/10 the first role where you need to predict who will die (that isint a protector ofc) also the first role with "two suspects of who killed them" both morti and preacher wouldn't exist without sheriff B: 10/10 perfectly balanced as a third informer. RL is too weak and GL isint an informer at all. Honestly the only role with 7+ balance in the RL tree by my book. F: 10/10 fun is objective, but for me I find getting more reward than "last night your potion saved a life!" Or something like that from guessing who will die. Also sheriff is not often protected and a good kill by evils so you need to be careful about revealing yourself Then, why I don't think sheriff is the No1 role: RNG. and wayy too much of it. True, it's needed but it's still annoying. And for a very high skill role (my opinion) I'd say it's 40% luck. One of the highest skill roles being 40% luck??? Hard to believe. It's a good example where most ppl think it's weak, either due to bad ppl playing it or being unlucky.
Example: wolf seer gets stabbed first night. I know I'm rrv, so I claim bg. Wwb kills seer+doc, but seer gets revived by Ritu. Then I get info. This is a tricky situation, not only am I sure to die if I claim sheriff, but the only thing keeping seer alive is that evils think I'm protecting them. I push the suspect over and over and they get lynched. We were in a situation where the only way we win is if we lynched correctly, if SK killed a villager after not lynching we lose. We also needed seer and my info if we wanted a chance, so many unckaimeds+a fool. We are just able to win after ww kill FC and SK kills Ritu, if it was seer+sheriff dead we would have likely lost. Not trying to boast, I just thought this game was a great example of how much depthe there is for aheriff
The creativity of jailer should be 1! it was not original instead it was based off of Town of Salem. The only difference is the town of Salem jailer has 3 kills and can die if they jail sk, ww, and pest thats all.
As explained, I have intentionally not considered TOS, because there are hundreds of mafia games with unique roles, its impossible to consider all roles from all games, hence I decided to not include any comparisons to any game.
Hello Hypostein, I have been watching your videos very often these months, and I was curious what would you say to this role idea : Name : Squire Team : Village Aura : Unknown Role Card Compatibility : Advanced Role for Vigilante Ability : You get a villager randomly assigned to you. If they die, you can kill a player at day once. Extra : - You don't get randomly assigned to a villager which is in another team or if they can change role or team. - If the assigned villager has been changed by the Kitten Wolf's ability, it counts them as dead for your ability (you can kill a player at day). - Killing a player will reveal your role. Motivation : This role is good for confirming another player's innocence due to Squire always have another villager assigned to them. Their ability also helps in balancing out a missing villager.
@@DoeperIRL well the game has custom games, which allows the host to pick roles, so if you'd like to give it a try, we can start with very simple with just a seer, a doctor, normal villager and normal werewolves 😉
Gunner, jailer, warden, paci used to be among my favorite roles to play But now it's 1 forger 2 mm 3 flagger Also conjuror been added but i barely playing it since i keep dying night 1 or not getting med
My top 10 roles 1. Flagger 2. Junior werewolf 3. Fool 4. Gunner 5. Werewolf berserk 6. Marksman 7. Jailer 8. Aura seer 9. Seer 10. Corruptor Im not sure about 4-10 but i love flagger junior and fool. Killing sk with his knife is too satisfying. Faking aura with junior and fool and destroying village is too funny.
I used to give it 8 or 9 out of 10, but its a bit like playing solo: keep balance in order to get ideal situation. Sadly they dont allow many strategies for cursed anymore, which kinda made it less fun. Still I dont understand why there is a lot of Cursed hate. Isnt it fun to be a dynamic role, like forkman, absolutely free from any duties?
@@hypostein i used to play different ways when im cursed Sometime troll or playing ww since the start or playing to win but after role cards i just pick gr, specially that cursed considered villager n have to play village as the rules say
@@zezo1335 yes exactly since they made that rule more strict, it kinda fell off. Its not worthy of an 'insufficient' grade (with lack of better terms), but its definitely not very exciting to play Cursed either.
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If you need to know a role's CBF score, comment down below! 😆
Ritualist & Bomber
@@Lottie_Latte Ritu 20/30 (C:5-B:9-F:6) and Bomber 19/30 (C:7-B:5-F:7)
Instigator
@@Lak1148 insti has 24/30 (C:6-B:10-F:8)
Cupid and alpha ww
Remember when jelly werewolf was introduced and was super weird. The funny thing is that a couple days later when jelly ww was finally a advanced role, gww stopped appearing in sandbox. Alpha was brought back after weeks of them not being in sandbox. One day I will be able to play as jelly ww, immediately not like the role but use it anyways.
Yessssss! I thought we see this video next year!!
Imo i think conjuror is the best role or at least one of the best.
You can become any role from a dead person, that makes it very fun.
I never get bitten as cursed and when it's role call time I get voted cause I "could be turned"
I recommend reminding village that (if that is the case) every night a player was killed by ww so cursed is not turned.
Was It that maybe they don’t have enough resource to protect you from turning to ww?
Idk don't people always vote Cupid and cursed if they know their role because even though they can technically be good, Cupid can be seen as insti, and cursed is just inevitable to get turned now that people know your role
Best role is avenger no chance
Of course
9:19 Hello grandma, why are you grumpy?
she is grumpy because she only accepts 1st place 🏆
I thought I'm the only one liking fool lol. You can do anything you want act all goofy and side with anyone after being revealed it's fun at peak
Exactly!
“How do you ( judge icon ) roles?”
That got me dying 🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣
2:43 A type of goat horn (or pillager raid) sound effect from minecraft! Man I remember the time I play minecraft before wolvesville.
ye for some reason the ''frenzy'' and ''berserk'' remind me of that raid sound effect in minecraft, so I might as well put it in there ahha
@@hypostein Wow we are the same😀
I remember that my first game as fool was that I claimed aura and vote out 2 ww (they killed me after that)
you got too much trust 😆
For me
1)bandit/accomplice
2)sect leader
3)fool
4)vigilant
5) junior werewolf
6)cupid
7)ghost lady
8)berserk wolf
9) voodoo wolf
10) detective
11:38 I won in that scenario because I forced the solo killer to vote me by voting them, then unvoted them the last second.
Fool is my favourite, it's so fun finding new interesting ways into making people vote you
Exactly! 💪
I think Cupid is a really good role, and I actually think it's top 5 for sure!
It was another close one to the top 10
0:15 83. Zombie 82. Fortune teller 81. Violinist 80. Seer 79. Pacifist?
actually Zombie and Pacifist are the only right ones here, but I filled the bottom spots with two roles I have never played with and so I gave them average ratings of 4-5-6 (Creativity-Balance-Fun), those roles being Pumpkin King and Easter bunny. These two roles can easily be higher, but I just put them there because I am kinda clueless on how good/bad they actually are.
So it would look like this:
83. Zombie (9/30)
82. Regular werewolf (13/30)
81. Pumpkin King (15/30)
80. Easter bunny (15/30)
79. Pacifist (15/30)
@@hypostein why do you hate paci so much?
@@snakeixirTM role reveal ability is just a big nope. Makes the game too easy for village, like Seer pretty much.
Once the vigi revealed my role as fool but i still got voted out and won
Uhh can you give me some tips for playing against seer in quick game... It sucks they didn't nerf it.
Claiming seer yourself is the best I have, maybe claim Witch and say you will kill someone, but its better to just have a teammate claim Seer.
Trying To Get Lynch As The Fool: ❎❎❎
Annoying The Village As The Fool: ✅✅✅
Both are fun imo 🤣
My top 10:
10: Corruptor
9: Bandit
8: Sorcerer
7: Spirit Seer
6: Werewolf Fan
5: Ghost Lady
4: Trapper
3: Fool
2: Wolf Trickster
1: Instigator
In my opinion, the best role from how I'd do CBF is actually sheriff. C: 10/10 the first role where you need to predict who will die (that isint a protector ofc) also the first role with "two suspects of who killed them" both morti and preacher wouldn't exist without sheriff
B: 10/10 perfectly balanced as a third informer. RL is too weak and GL isint an informer at all. Honestly the only role with 7+ balance in the RL tree by my book.
F: 10/10 fun is objective, but for me I find getting more reward than "last night your potion saved a life!" Or something like that from guessing who will die. Also sheriff is not often protected and a good kill by evils so you need to be careful about revealing yourself
Then, why I don't think sheriff is the No1 role: RNG. and wayy too much of it. True, it's needed but it's still annoying. And for a very high skill role (my opinion) I'd say it's 40% luck. One of the highest skill roles being 40% luck??? Hard to believe. It's a good example where most ppl think it's weak, either due to bad ppl playing it or being unlucky.
Example: wolf seer gets stabbed first night. I know I'm rrv, so I claim bg. Wwb kills seer+doc, but seer gets revived by Ritu. Then I get info. This is a tricky situation, not only am I sure to die if I claim sheriff, but the only thing keeping seer alive is that evils think I'm protecting them. I push the suspect over and over and they get lynched. We were in a situation where the only way we win is if we lynched correctly, if SK killed a villager after not lynching we lose. We also needed seer and my info if we wanted a chance, so many unckaimeds+a fool. We are just able to win after ww kill FC and SK kills Ritu, if it was seer+sheriff dead we would have likely lost. Not trying to boast, I just thought this game was a great example of how much depthe there is for aheriff
@@snakeixirTM I had sheriff high too, just not quite top 10 yet
The creativity of jailer should be 1!
it was not original instead it was based off of Town of Salem. The only difference is the town of Salem jailer has 3 kills and can die if they jail sk, ww, and pest thats all.
As explained, I have intentionally not considered TOS, because there are hundreds of mafia games with unique roles, its impossible to consider all roles from all games, hence I decided to not include any comparisons to any game.
Hello Hypostein, I have been watching your videos very often these months, and I was curious what would you say to this role idea :
Name : Squire
Team : Village
Aura : Unknown
Role Card Compatibility : Advanced Role for Vigilante
Ability : You get a villager randomly assigned to you. If they die, you can kill a player at day once.
Extra :
- You don't get randomly assigned to a villager which is in another team or if they can change role or team.
- If the assigned villager has been changed by the Kitten Wolf's ability, it counts them as dead for your ability (you can kill a player at day).
- Killing a player will reveal your role.
Motivation :
This role is good for confirming another player's innocence due to Squire always have another villager assigned to them. Their ability also helps in balancing out a missing villager.
I think the idea is good, though it may be a bit weak as vigi replacement. This role would instead fit well with the Fortune teller imo.
@@hypostein Oh, it's possible too. Thanks for your review!
I think it feets better as advanced of priest
Medium op too
Gunner on top no doubt, ps: i hear a dutch accent 🫡
@@mxgx575 ye I am Dutch
Yo I think arsonist funnier to play than the fool but welp
nice vid
you should stream this game someday (if you want I can join) 😉
@@hypostein maybe if i understand the game more XD
@@DoeperIRL well the game has custom games, which allows the host to pick roles, so if you'd like to give it a try, we can start with very simple with just a seer, a doctor, normal villager and normal werewolves 😉
@@hypostein sure
Bandit is the best for me
Why do you have an advanced role that only raised the rare card?
Got them from Philipp
Gunner, jailer, warden, paci used to be among my favorite roles to play
But now it's
1 forger
2 mm
3 flagger
Also conjuror been added but i barely playing it since i keep dying night 1 or not getting med
My top 10 roles
1. Flagger
2. Junior werewolf
3. Fool
4. Gunner
5. Werewolf berserk
6. Marksman
7. Jailer
8. Aura seer
9. Seer
10. Corruptor
Im not sure about 4-10 but i love flagger junior and fool. Killing sk with his knife is too satisfying. Faking aura with junior and fool and destroying village is too funny.
Apart from Seer I think they all make sense to be a top 10 contender
i disagree with so much of this lmfao, but good video regardless. it's interesting to hear other's perspectives :)
6/10 fun for cursed it's kinda much
I used to give it 8 or 9 out of 10, but its a bit like playing solo: keep balance in order to get ideal situation. Sadly they dont allow many strategies for cursed anymore, which kinda made it less fun. Still I dont understand why there is a lot of Cursed hate. Isnt it fun to be a dynamic role, like forkman, absolutely free from any duties?
@@hypostein i used to play different ways when im cursed
Sometime troll or playing ww since the start or playing to win
but after role cards i just pick gr, specially that cursed considered villager n have to play village as the rules say
@@zezo1335 yes exactly since they made that rule more strict, it kinda fell off. Its not worthy of an 'insufficient' grade (with lack of better terms), but its definitely not very exciting to play Cursed either.
I prefer vigi more than gunner tbh
Mfw cursed is 10/10 balanced ☕
rl is better than gl.....
rl scores lower on fun, but that is just my taste
nah bro suicide lady💀
I find the GL is better than RL. You are literally invincible until your protection is used. Red Lady gets punished by visiting evils. GL doesn't.
@@unknowed5048 that is what makes it more fun imo too, though fun is subjective of course and RL is more balanced still imo.
obviously this is just personal preference and everyone can had their opinions (tho sheriff really needs a buff/rework)
i not like fool
To play with or role-design-wise?