The Search For The Lost Home Of The Confessor | Time Team | Odyssey
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- The team descends upon the sleepy Oxfordshire village of Islip, the birthplace of Edward the Confessor, for one of the most challenging and intriguing excavations of the series. They are joined by architectural historians Sam Newton and Jonathan Foyle. Helen and Sam visit Westminster Abbey to view original documents relating Edward to Islip.
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That dog playing dead was actually trying to tell them it’s not here! Please don’t disturb the bone I buried here last week 🤣🤣 !
Lol!
I love the dog that doesn't want to give up his napping spot. haha.
probably buried a bone... just... there.
The bit with Phil Harding was really funny. Good digger!
Johnathan was a smart add, he's very likable and easy to understand. I enjoy him on the show, Thanks
Absolutely agree! Wish they had hired him to host the New Time Team. He has the up energy, intelligence, fluid speech, and Witt.
Not to be negative about the host they choose, he's good, but just doesn't have the quick energy, the pace Tony set, and it is necessary, it's what the show needs.
I'm surprised they didn't realize this.
Jonathan is absolutely the man to Host the new show.
A wonderful mystery tour! A true mystery, finding the church and go from there, I love it. Kevin from sunny Mexico.
the KGB knocked on the door, we understand you might have contraband hidden in your yard, we are going to find what is there.
they dig up the whole back yard. find nothing and leave.
after they leave, the neighbor comes over . "how did it go?"
"they dug up my whole back yard, turned over ever stone, everything. I smoothed it out and planted potatoes.
the neighbor says "great, now you call in that there might be contraband in my yard, I want to plant beans"
what a wonderful show
The most intriguing English monarch for me is King Edward the Confessor! I would love to see more content on him.
Same here
The chapel location is most likely on church grounds, to the right at 25.19 marked (Victorian Finds) under tomb stones and the timber yard. The glass is from a church window and not simply a Victorian decorative piece.. FESSOR..24.52. Confessor would have been placed at the base of the middle arched stone window of the three stone arches on the western wall in pride of place in the chapel, as shown in the 1720 illustration with the three stone arches bricked up. The curved piece of large glass as shown at 25.15 with the oak leaf pattern would have been situated in the design of the window at the very top of the middle arch of the western facing wall. You will notice there is no lead framing for the glass in the finds tray; that is because it has been salvaged . the demolishers have pulled the stained glass out first ; lead removed from the glass pieces and the glass dropped to the ground, which means the middle of the western chapel wall is within arms length of where the glass was found in the direction of the timber yard and into the church ground. I have worked in stained glass church window restoration for thirty years. the date of the glass is correct around 1840 with silver stain to the exterior of the lettering, the gold appearance you see. I can only conclude the chapel was still standing in or around 1820, 1860, with the decorative stained glass shown here in place. The chapel was still standing in 1806, which fits in well with the church glass shown here.
I love that young lady. She has a nice personality and a fun person.
Gosh I miss England so bad… I miss visiting my family in Belgium. I pray every day we can get over this coof problem, via jab and/or therapeutics, so borders can be opened again w/o restrictions… 😩😩😩
Best place on Earth is the Vatican. Very holy!
@@proofnewtestamentistrue2948 the Vatican the smallest state in the world is not the best unless your catholic. It is the place the 3 crusades started, supported the nazis, gave rise to the inquisition and kept Europe in the dark for centuries saying the earth is the centre of the universe and all things rotate round it, plus if it's the holiest place on earth what does that make Jerusalem?
If you've had your jabs no problem plus theres been no restriction on travelling to England or Belgium for the past 12 months, guess your family forgot to tell you.
@@isisnmagic1812 don't even need to be vaccinated to travel in a lot of cases now. Just a negative rat test
The intro was GREAT. 😂😂😂
lol, that dog is just the best!
3:02 Baldrick arithmetic: 1 = 0 x 2
"How many Saxon finds have there been in the village so far?" "None at all." "So even if we find one Saxon pottery sherd it'll double the amount of knowledge we've got so far."
Some beans.
Henry III was such a fan of Edward the Confessor that he named his first son after him, Edward I, or Edward the Longshanks, as we all know him from Braveheart. :)
How did I miss this one?!
i love this guy. he’s so enthusiastic and interesting! :) 😋🏰🌷🌱
2:36 Mick’s hair is majestic.
This was one of the less giving digs, but still spellbinding imo.
I love to see the townsfolk in these and other shows. They seem such lovely places and people. it almost makes me wonder if the amount of drama and murders shown in Midsomer Murders might be an exaggeration! /s😉
gee, really?? LOL 😋🌷🌱
Nah MM was under exaggerating if anything. Have you never seen Hot Fuzz? All the yokels in these villages are tooled up, the only reason we don't hear the truth is nobody ever leaves.
For the Greater Good.
What constantly amazes me is that there are metres of dirt on top of everything. Hpw does that happen? 'We wanted a garden, so we dumped tonnes of dirt over the old farmyard cobblestones'? Clare, Sydney
Has anyone from time Team consulted with CGP Grey about his recent discoveries concerning Thomas Hearne?
Jonathan would be the one to Host the New Time Team, he has the energy, the pace, and is adored by the viewers.
It's the success decision.
Nothing negative about the host they chose, he is nice, but he doest have the energy strength.
If TT MK2 ever get back to Scotland, why not have a go at Robert the Bruce's Manor/final home?
Seems to have got lost!
38:45 Helen confirming she's pregnant!
(Earlier shots already made that clear, but no speculation needed after her own statement)
Anyone know if it's a girl or boy or they,them?
@@johnhagemeyer8578 These are reedited versions of episodes from quite a number of years ago. Wikipedia tells us that Helens family consists of two sons and a daughter. I'm not sure if this was her first child or on of the later ones. It is however the first one that is shown in an episode of TT.
@@RobKoelman cool, thank you.. I guess I could have looked it up myself but I'm kinda older and don't remember I have allot of answers in my hand.
Odd habit of burying kings in car parks. Now I'm beginning to wonder who's buried in Grant's tomb.
at the end when they are reading about the "barn" being pulled down, it says 'Continued to be used as a barn or "Out-house". Here in the States, an out-house is a privy. So did they maybe still find part of the chapel???
That's what I thought too, I have heard of a toilet being called the out-house.
In England too, at least the rural bits. My Granny's Out House was on the back of the barn, so it could be either.
should be called an out building....
19:13 building “likely to have perished over the last thousand years.” out of nowhere, “tthhhhpphhhttt :P” totally startled - what in the freaking he££?
next video shot! € totally hilarious! 😋
+From Stuart's input, here, can it be inferred that there is a credible understanding as to why the English Heritage 'stand' is as it is, with regards to the Battle of Hastings site ?
20:15 When you find medieval pottery but that's not old enough. O.o
That’s Europe for you. Meanwhile, in the US we’re excited to find Victorian.
What a coincidence… I live near Islip on Long Island, New York
released two days before Time Team Classics releases their version.
gotta hurt.
You can see outlines of structures in the aerial view at 35:40
By the way, THAT isn't the chapel.. lmao Hey, we found it Off to the pub! And wow I love how Sam answers questions!!!!
I never understood the false 3 day deadline they set for themselves. It's so stupid. If you're really looking for something interesting, why not take a bit of time to follow it up? 🙄 Imagine Howard Carter shoveling sand with a 3 day clock ticking.
It's made for TV.
Just because the Time Team set a three day deadline for themselves does not mean that archeological exploration stops at the site. If substantial evidence is found, it might be taken up by the "crown".
@Steven Edwards - I think that it's a way to create tension for the show so that viewers sit breathless throughout the episode - in 3 days, WILL they? WON'T they???
Done some digging on Ed the Con in the histories. Seems he had a thing for allowing a young servant help himself from the treasure chest at the foot of Ed’s bed. Next thing recorded is the council of nobles advising Ed to marry (which he doesn’t consumate). Anyway, I’m hoping when they do an analysis of his cousins body at Fecamp, it turns out to be the young Edward instead.
There was a more than fair amount of "those whom preferred younger men", in the Royal History. In not judging just noticed it tended to be the case quite often.
Unclear if it was purely a sexual interest (like other's cultures in History) or if they were actually homosexual.
Royal stories do comprise some diverse Psycholigy.
...and highly evident + prevalent in "Narcissist Personality Disorder", also.
It is sometimes extremely difficult to know with certainty the sexual orientation of Monarchs. This is partly due to the kind of language used in antiquity but more directly that it was an exceedingly easy way to lose your life to criticize, insult,
of question the character of the monarch. Historians can look at the court records to try to infer which Kings had a special interest in certain young courtiers, but it should also be kept in mind that SOME British monarchs were known in their own time and since as exceedingly pious. Whether or not Edward the Confessor was gay, pious or simply more interested in building his Abbey… we may never know. There is also the possibility he was traumatized by his Saxon father and brothers who most assuredly it seems were not overly pious.
Maybe he was traumatised by the company he kept from 1014 to 1042.
@@cynric5437 From the historic records available to us, it seems the lineage of Saxon Kings was less about a willing honor and birthright and more about the last man standing. Not sure if the dates you mention are a veiled barb to the French, because you know it’s an English art form. But Edward was very far down the list of possible Kings from his father Æthelred the Unready(way to instill confidence) just in terms of sons from the Kings first marriage and then his older full brother and that’s without the constant harassment of the Kingdom of Wessex by those pesky Vikings. He is the most unassuming monarch to have an utterly fascinating impact and history of pre-Norman Britain. It’s hard to work out what the UK would be like if old Billy the Bastard had not have prevailed at Hastings in 1066
@@playnicechannel Just referencing Ed’s time in exile. Re number 6 of 7. Look at date of death for his older 5 brothers. Only 2 survive their dad. Youngest one survived being an outlaw only to be murdered by people unknown. Ed was the only King to not being chosen by the Witan having been made co- regent by his half- brother at Emma’s insistence. Look also at failed takeover in ‘35, Alfred meets Godwin and ultimately dies whereas Edward has success but withdraws back to Normandy. ? What about Duke Roberts willingness to put Ed on the throne by force? Would you stick your neck out for your cousin? So many things seem strange when one talks about Ed the Con.
Omg is this boldrick??? From blackadder!!!!!
Edwina the Contessa...🤣🤣🤣
Time team is premiering this Sunday
Didn't Time Team premiere on January 16, 1994?
@@psikogeek the official group is re releasing it.
3:01 0+1=0*2?
"saxon pottery" looks like nondescript stones. doesnt exactly look great on a musejm shelf
1:37 Elvis lives!
SAINT EDWARD PRAY FOR US 👑
I have to point out there is a chapel like mark in the field on the edge of the village, why did they ignore that?
If you mean the cropmarks visible at around 35:40, I think that is the moated site where they later opened a few trenches.
3:05: Actually, no, it wouldn't double the amount. 0×2≠1.
I thought the same thing!
Sooooo much pontification and soooooo litttle substance!
I think they were on it and the privy was the out house they found…
S13 E10 - "Birthplace of the Confessor", 26 March 2006
I know this is a much older episode. But I’m wondering if someone could get a note to the current Time Team to do an episode on what happens when they are done-cataloging the finds, mapping out possible dig spots for future digs, filling in what they have just dug and returning the area, as close as possible, to what it was before the trenches were put in.
You could always check out the Time Team Official channel here on YT! They've also got a Patreon (subscribers get input and behind-the-scenes info). ☺
Time Team finished recording in 2013. They their own channel here on RUclips but they are all episodes previously aired on TV.
@@susanwaldron6831 They actually have new digs! The new ones are exclusive to RUclips, and they have extras on their Patreon, including votes and discussion about where to dig next. :) The format's a bit different, but there are quite a few familiar faces.
@@ElleEmm Thank you so much for letting me know.
And why just three days, not four or five????
Sidenote Phil should have been in Harry Potter movies
what happens next?
William The Conqueror is my 28x great grandfather Henry I my 27x Great Grandfather..my 26th great Grandfather conceived by a mistress Gieva De Tracy..
My last name Fletcher ( I have it here as it was in Norman France) ..was noble ,it means" of the fleche" or to feather an arrow,we also made bows. So we were brought over to fight and our last name changed to Fletcher.
Or you could just be the child of the local milkman. ;-) Ever done a DNA test to at least confirm just the recent genealogy lines?
Iam a descendant of the Plantagenets who married into the Courtenay family who are now the current Earl of Devon. All found with DNA so a lovely surprise. I am Australian by the way but plane to visit my motherland before I die!!
@Julie F. -HCA - Forget the European kings; I hope that I someday find that I descend from Eleanor of Aquitaine, I don't care which husband. It will be wise if I don't hold my breath, though.
La cruce al centro representa monasteri del monoci erano numerosi per protegere il cristianismo e farlo sbilupare 🤗😊
Deathbed Prophecy Of King Edward The Confessor
“Just now two monks stood before me, whom I had once known very well when I
was a young man in Normandy, men of great sanctity, and for many years now
relieved of earthly cares. And they addressed me with a message from God.
‘Since,’ they said, ‘those who have climbed to the highest offices in the kingdom of
England, the earls, the bishops and abbots, and all those in holy orders,
are not what they seem to be, but, on the contrary, are servants of the devil,
on a year and one day after the day of your death God has delivered all this kingdom,
cursed by Him, into the hands of the enemy,
and devils shall come through all this land with fire and sword and the havoc of war.
’ Then I said to them, ‘I will show God’s design to the people, and the forgiveness of
God shall have mercy upon the penitents. For He had mercy on the people of
Nineveh, when they repented on hearing the Divine indignation.
’ But they said, ‘These will not repent, nor will the forgiveness of God come to pass
for them.’
‘And what,’ I asked, ‘shall happen? And when can a remission of this great
indignation be hoped for?’
‘At that time,’ they answered, ‘when a green tree, if cut down in the middle of its
trunk, and the part cut off carried the space of three furlongs from the stock,
shall be joined again to the trunk, by itself and without the hand of man or any sort of
stake, and begin once more to push leaves and bear fruit from the old love of its
uniting sap, then first can a remission of these great ills be hoped for''
King Edward died on January 5, 1066. One year and one day after his death, on January 6, 1067, the
Roman Catholic William the Conqueror was crowned king of England in Westminster Abbey.
Then began a terrible campaign of pillage and bloodshed by the Conqueror against the English
people, which culminated in the pseudo-council of Winchester in 1070, when papal legates deposed
the Orthodox Archbishop Stigand, who had refused to crown William, and placed the Roman Catholic Lanfranc in his place.
On October 15, 1072, the last English Orthodox bishop, Ethelric of Durham, after anathematizing
the Pope, died in prison at Westminster, and the grace of the priesthood left the English land, in
accordance with King Edward’s prophecy. The last part of this prophecy remains to be fulfilled.
History of King Edward.....
St. Edward The Confessor, King Of England
Source:
s33939bc9149089cf.jimcontent.com/download/version/1506323274/module/5529994050/name/A%20Deathbed%20Prophecy%20Of%20King%20Edward%20The%20Confessor.pdf
Ah. So the name of the town on Long Island is from an English village after all. I went there (the one on Long Island) on a musical tour during college and many people who lived there did not know it was English. Maybe they thought it was another language?
There was at one time more than one Islip in England, there was one in Notts, and another in Oxfordshire.
Y is it always only 3 days
I've been told that most of the cast had real jobs that they had to get to during the week.
I heard the filming was quite expensive. It's not only the 6-7 professionals in front of the camera. There are a ton of helpers in the background that you never see and they want to get paid too.
Hey tony doubling 0 is not 1. It's still 0
What happens when it's all finished, is it all just covered again. Or do some keep up with the archeological dig..
so the presenter, chosen for .... what, believes double zero = one? Astounding
Lots of Dutch words in that manuscript.
English is heavily influenced by the same language(s) that gave us modern Dutch. In fact, it might be argued that English and Dutch are sibling languages.
Eddie the narc.
The privy they found could be called a chapel of sorts. After all, do not they call a porcelain commode today a porcelain throne? That is what we called a commode back in the 60s and 70s after a long night at the local bar. " He awoke after a long night of drinking with friends giving homage to the porcelain throne."
Lloro anno aribato dell irlanda insola di man atacata vichinghi di dublino insola orcadi se trobano a 16km a nort della costa senttentrionale di caithness😊
It's almost like I'm listening to some degree of sanity here...
🤔 question why don't they use a sod cutter it would beat all that manual labor and be faster
Time teame come, dig up your whole village, time team leave
Is the host from Black Adder?
Yes. Sir Tony Robinson played Baldrick.
@@TheFuel89 Son of Robin the dung gatherer.
@@TheFuel89 It blew my mind for the first several episodes of Time Team. Baldrick should not be a curious, intelligent man who was knighted for his charity work and activism. He just shouldn’t.
@@mrjones2721 Of course he should! He had a cunning plan! ;-)
"And we've got just 3 days.. " always the most annoying part of these shows.
I have always wondered why only 3 days. To me it always sounds like poor planning and unnecessary drama.
I agree, I would honestly rather see a 4 hour video that documents a 3 week dig as opposed to a 45 mins video that covers only 3 days. The amount of definitive answers and relics/items that could be recovered would increase exponentially if that were the case.
My question is and always has been "why only 3 days?"
Never got an answer.
@@rickjohnson5386 They all had work to do at their universities or archeology digs through the week. They gave up their weekends and took a friday off work probably part of their holiday allowance. It also was to help the local archeology groups have a good start and much better information to move forward with.
TT was never designed to be a full blown acrhilogical dig. Just test trenches, really. All the archaeologists had full time jobs, Tony was also busy making other TV during the TT erra.
this series, was maybe one of the best shows ever broadcast. today, we get politics directing what is allowed to be said.
Why do they only always have 3 days, if the site is worth the extra effort, why do they just give up with inconclusive results.
If definitive archaeological evidence is foound, the site becomes a site that can be taken over by the "crown" to be registered and worked.
Snitches get stiches Eddie.
"in" ..."fessor".....as in "K-in-g" .."Confessor". The "in" was likely part of the word King.
To call people, who want to honor the memory of Edward the Confessor a cult, seems to imply negativity. I'm surprised to see experts looking at rare documents, not wearing face masks to prevent mouth spray, which could damage paper material over time.
I'm pretty sure experts in conservation and preservation of historical documents know what they're doing. Some of those documents could be parchment from animal skin as well, not just paper.
“Cult” is also a neutral word that means a group dedicated to the worship of a particular entity. All the saints had cults, all the Roman gods had cults, etc. That’s the sense they use it in here-there’s no intended implication that people who were devoted to Edward the Confessor were strange or walled off from the world.
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a urinal? lol i think that they are taking the piss Tony
Why would home owners allow time team to dig up there fully planted garden? 😩
Because they're interested, it's a bit like a community "Who do you think you are?"
🤦 because a gaeden grows back
They didn't find sh*t! Or... they only found sh*t!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So much for the expert: “a confessor is like a priest, a monk.” No, a confessor is someone who stands firm in the Catholic faith and does his (or her) best to spread and strengthen it. Usually NOT a priest.
Only thing I don't like about this program is the 3-day rushed job. Why three days? I don't like it. I don't think it requires this artificial conflation to be interesting.
At the time, the archaeologists had `regular jobs` in universities etc.They filmed on three day weekends. They took copious notes, and very often there were follow ups by other groups on the sites
@Jill Shaw - I think it was a way to create a breathless anticipation in the audience - only three days --- WILL they? WON'T they?
@@MossyMozart hence my "artificial conflation" statement 😉
A Confessor is not necessarily a monk or priest. It's a saint ( or Blessed) who was not a Holy Martyr or Holy Virgin. One whom confessed the True Catholic Faith in life and one whom every Christian could follow as an example of Sanctity.
You would think that anyone doing a documentary on a Catholic Saint would at least get the basic facts correct about the Saint's title. Typical Laziness of Anglican heretics .....
Phil's cartoon farmer act is getting stale.
the head over the arch is a mans head....anyone can see that....and it looks like edward
such a shame spoiled by pseudo-humour and ill-dressing. Archaeology is supposed to be a serious (or at least not asinine and puerile) activity.
What a waste of time
@Paul Kendra - In science, a negative result is STILL important.
@@MossyMozart I meant the video itself, otherwise.. I agree ,.. objectivity is key