just buy a NIB titan Xp off ebay or something, with a bit of hunting you can get one sub 1000$ USD pretty easily and it's slower than RTX 2080 ti by 5-15%, but it's physically smaller, runs cooler, OC"s higher, and has 1gb more vram (which is why i sold my MSI gtx 1080 ti FE and bought this, that 1gb makes a huge difference)
I found that GTA V Max Setting when just playing and trying to gofast on the highway and making things explodes is a better benchmark than even Unigin Superposition Benchmark!
I disable every RGB light in my case in a competitive game and I assure you I see and feel the difference. In fact I unplug every uneccesary USB and it also helps. Your pro tip is valid.
I just recently went from a Zotac GTX 1070 that you helped me learn to overclock (manually managed 2025MHz core, memory wouldn't do past 4007MHz effective clock) to an EVGA RTX 2080 Super Black Gaming Edition that I can manually overclock to 2040MHz core and 7751MHz effective memory clock. At the time these cards were new, they may not have been a huge step up over the previous GTX 1000 series tier for tier, but I am MUCH happier with the 2560x1440 performance with this card even out of the box going to a newer series and up a tier. Thank you for this overclocking tutorial!
I have a GTX 770 and with the 2080ti I would see a massive improvement, even with my i5 4670 (I'm aware of the also massive bottleneck). However, the XC Ultra that Jay is using here costs 1369€ (or 1611,24 USD) in Spain right now. I didn't expect such increase in prices.
I always skip a generation (skipped Pascal) so the upgrade from a 970 to a 2080 is amazing! And it was at a price that I almost was going to pay for a 1080 Ti when the mining crap was happening... So for me, I'm super happy with it. I get why pascal owners are a bit let down though, I'd stick to pascal until the 21 series for sure!
I honestly dont get why people are so bummed over these cards, if you currently have a 1080 or 1080TI you should be very happy, it looks like you have another good few years having a beast system that isn't gonna get crushed by the upcoming AAA games. For those that have those cards and really want the extra horsepower for 4K, you can get a good price for your old cards to put towards the 2080Ti as they are still relevant. If you are building a system today you have a whole host of cards to choose from to suit all budgets and now that the cypto boom is over (for now) at least we are not being robbed by the vendors and being asked for over MSRP. I am not sure why more are not looking at this way, you are not be forced up the upgrade path unless you really want to be.
Yeap. Only idiot children thing they need to upgrade their video cards if they currently have a 970 or more powerful with a 1440p or 1080p gaming situation. my 8GB rx580 sapphire nitro+ card is handling my 1440p 100+ hz situation plenty fine on all of my titles...including witcher 3 and I'm still running at 2nd highest settings across the board ( 4790k cpu at 4.6ghz too)
Trinajskaa no need to call anybody an idiot, that just made you look really immature. on topic though, these prices are not justified he is 100% correct, sure the cards are pretty amazing but why are they double the price of a 1080 ti when the performance increase compared to a 1080 ti is at most 35-40% better? over-priced plain and simple.
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i dont know if it will be as easy this time around .. since the shunts are tied into their new current / power balancing circuits and nobody knows how they react .. or if you need to stay in between specific ranges etc. (for balancing power draw between the 2 PCIe connectors) but i like how on stage it was "these cards are designed and build vor overclocking, these will have amazing overclocks" .. and now we hit power limit even without some power virus like furmark. .... build for overclocking my ass
DJRaffa1000 well it's not as bad as the "overclockers dream" at least haha. No idea why Nvidia didn't just ship the cards with higher max power limits, they are no where near connector limits and the VRM design on the ref PCBs are massively overkill.
They claim the voltage and power restrictions are there to guarantee at least 5 years of longevity for consumer. Increasing them far past these limits will kill the card faster.
@@kaihekoareichwein9392 Yeah i can understand capping the voltage for that reason (at least without a big "i understand what I'm doing and take full responsibility" disclaimer), and that no doubt caps the max theoretical frequency, but the cards have very strict current limits. Shunt modding a Titan V removes the current restriction without removing the voltage restriction yet it lets you pull silly amounts of power with it. Tu102 is nearly the same size so I'd guess that in theory it could pull similar amounts of power with the same voltage restrictions but no current restriction.
Guys, who are new to overclocking - don't trust 100% the heaven benchmark, because it doesn't mean that if it's stable in Heaven bench , it will be also when gaming. The best way is to start with Heaven or other bench, then move to playing games. I highly recommend, Battlefield 5, since the game is very sensitive to overclocks, so if your OC is not stable, it will crash to Windows. A good way to test the limits and lower when needed. Best,
IMO, some probable reasons for the price hike are: 1. New technology R & D costs 2. US-China trade war = higher tariffs = lower profit margin 3. Bitcoin mining failure = decreased projected sales Anyone else have anything to add?
Jeff RT china isn’t only country with minerals, but they’re one of the worst at producing quality products without 30 percent interest rates, while stealing your intellectual property
ASUS has 125 pwr limit....EVGA has 130 pwr limit so they are better than the founders edition card, honestly I'm interested in if shunt mods will work with the new power balancing these cards have.
I've been looking at VR benchmarks (what few there is) and it looks like the 2080Ti is a good value for that, it's about 2x the performance of the 1080 in steam's VR bench and pretty much the only card you can use if you are getting a Pimax or other high pixel count headset
I got my RTX 280 for $400. I had $400 in store credit at Best Buy, and there was 1 left in stock. So, I picked it up to replace my GTX 1060 6GB. And so far, it's fantastic for what I paid for it. Paid only $400 out of pocket. Oh, and the performance bump is really nice too.
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Watch the entirety of the vid, You could reduce that voltage. If you took it down -50 mV then you could hit that power limit less frequently. I thought you might of added this? I had to do this on pascal. Because its okay adding +200 on the clock but if you're smashing that power limit wall then it just downclocks. So you need to try and circumvent this. i took my overclock down to what it kept downclocking to i had 2100 but it kept down clocking to 2050 - 2063Mhz so i took it down to 2050. I then decided because i upped my voltage i might aswell take that down too. Kept testing and found i was hitting that power limit less frequently. Now in games i hold 2050mhz instead of it fluctuating all over. It used to drop down to 1988 or something occasionally when i had 2100 and the full 100Mv on the OC. You'll find frame times etc will be smoother too.
Finally an explanation (although not directly) on how the Precision X1 software is intended to work/be used. Thanks, will help me with my new GTX 2060! Appreciate ya!
Jay don't forget the cooler the silicon runs the less leakage there is internally. On a card like this you might save as much as 25-30 watts ditching all the rgbs and fans and getting the temps down from say 70c to 30-35c. That 30 watts can go towards the power limit, if your silicon can handle the clocks and power you'll keep going up in clocks. I really doubt there is much in it though. Big air coolers are plenty to get you 99% of the way there while remaining quiet.
omg when i turnd my fan speed up to a 100 my pc temp go from 40 to 19 c's XDD Thanks for the info jay! I really needed this (im kinda new to X1 thanks!)
The 2080ti is this gens titan basically. To the price that the 2080ti is. It does have value but really depends on the user's needs. This card beat out the titan V in n 3d rendering programs. Which to me is a huge price to performance. Less than half the price of a $3,000. Gpu and beating it. If your just going to game, as of now it really isn't a Wow with the cost of this. But new drivers and when we can use the other half of the gpu. This card could be worth the price for gaming as well. When games start implementing ray tracing and dlss. But as of now for gaming, it's a leap of faith. Unless your willing to pay the price for just 4k over 60fps. I'm getting this but mainly for 3d rendering. Gaming is second with it. To me not a bad price at all. For what I'm going to use it for. Nvidia did bad marketing with this release. And a terrible launch. They should of had something to show the other part of gpu (ray+dlss) being used in gaming. Everyone testing gaming and only using half the power on this card. Which could be a beast, we don't know until the card is running 100%. Still impressive, half the card being used beats a 1080ti 20-30% avg in games.
Great! Now please do a water cooled RTX block review. My preordered RTX 2080 TI Asus Dual should be here in a couple of days, and I want to get it into my custom loop ASAP. Thanks - you make learning fun....
Hello!! It is now 2020! After getting a 2070 super to replace a faulty 1080ti. I managed to get an MSI Gaming X Trio 2080ti, only 3 months old for £450. I sold the 2070 super for £370! What a bargain, will keep me happy for 1440p gaming, for at least 3 year. No 3080's anywhere to be seen. So I am not even going to bother. I will wait for the next gen.
@@liluuxv1436 The GTX 2050 should be on par with a GTX 1060 and it's not coming tell 2019. Your better off getting a GTX 1070 that will perform better than a 2050 and be cheaper since its older tech.
bought the 2080TI brand spankin, cause I had 2 1080ti's sli'd and couldn't play red dead with SLI config. Sold the 2 1080ti's and picked up the 2080ti for about $1400... so thanks for this
@@LoverKittey The average PC gamer doesn't care about power or cutting edge technology. They only care about price to performance. I'm an enthusiast so even though the 2080ti (FE) is overpriced I still picked mine up for true 4k gaming.
I have a 1080, a 1080ti, and pre ordered a 2080ti. I just want the fastest card and, I can't wait to buy the 7nm RTX ti card too. I think something like $5k is a bit much for a card but $1200 isn't completely crazy I don't think with all the tech in here. Sure a lot is not yet used but it will be soon. MW5 VR here I come
Meanwhile i got an Aorus 1080ti extreme edition for 710CAD$..., lol saved 400$ for more or less performance(my first idea was to buy a regular 2080) ....and at worse i could always resell it for 650CAD or more and put that money toward the rtx
1. Not even going to comment on grammar, I know you people stopped learning English language in schools years ago, 2. He's not whining, he is simply stating he wishes he had a good PC, so stop fucking riding him.
@@bromazepam781 I wish I had a million dollars, but I can't have it over night... However he could just go to buy a PC if he wishes so. If he can't afford high end one, he could buy a cheap one. He didn't specify what kind of PC he wants. Also yeah, I don't bother checking my grammar, however I do know that I type clear enough for everyone to understand. This is a comment section, not a school or formal letter etc...
Wasn't replying to you, sir or madam, both of your replies are perfectly understandable; I was referring to the ghetto RUclips tough guy beneath your 1st comment. As for PC's, I agree with you, they can come in all sizes & shapes and a cheaper PC with a smaller card can fulfill its dedicated role decently - not everyone needs 10 to 50 % increase, and I don't know people who buy the most expensive hardware for the sole purpose of watching them benchmark all the time. I know I don't benchmark my Intel NVME, I just enjoy the speed with which it handles OS or programs like Photoshop CS6 and AutoCAD. For me, these videos with idiotically big cards that cost more than some other people's entire rigs are just for informative purpose. Even if I had enough money, I would not buy the biggest, most expensive card, because smaller one would need less W's and cash savings would open up more options on other ends (more RAM, bigger hard drive and so on).
I just bought a used EVGA 2080ti XC Hybrid Liquid Cooled. It factory clocks up to 1905Mhz at 50-55c. Seems like I have plenty of head room for a couple hundred more MHz. I was thinking of changing out the Thermal Paste and Pads (Thermal Grizzly) to see how much of an improvement that makes...
I just grabbed one of these cards for $225 to match with my Kraken AIO cooler and Corsair H55. Planning to go balls to the wall with overclocking to see how hard I can push it.
The OC ability of the custom cooler seems a lot better than the stock cooler due to air flow, but the real meat and potatoes will come out from the custom PCBs like ICX and such. An EVGA GeForce 2080Ti iCX design like a FTW model or KingPin edition will probably hit even higher. The real speed limits of these cards will probably be found once Colorful iGame gets their KUDAN model up and running.
"Scratching there ass".......Hay, all of your little "nuggets & sayings" that come out of your mouth are just so hilarious! You truly make things interesting & funny...... Side note, a blooper/outtake vid from every year would be AWESOME to watch,least I think so....the little teasers you give us are funny & would like to see one from entire year(maybe 1-1.5 hrs long if have the length etc....). Heck, probably would pay $2.99-$3.99 for a disc😉 Waiting for follow up vid to this one😉 Cheers, A
speaking of fans needing power. when overclocking my 1050ti because the power limit is soo much lower the fan speed can actually take a good 100mhz or more from my clocks. and similarly to my 1060. good note jayz :)
What's more important to oc core clock or memory clock? For example 1. It didn't crash when +92 core clock and 1100 memory clock. 2. It didn't crash when +132 core clock and 750 memory clock.
I doubt they are really sold out. MS did the same thing when the xb1 launched. Companies know how to work with retailers to fabricate the perception of high demand. I guess we'll know soon enough.
Do you remember your video "Do riser cards affect performance?" I'd like to see if having the GPU seated in such a way that one of the main exhausts isn't blocked by the motherboard would improve temps
I have my MSI RTX 2080 Gaming X and overclocked it using MSI Afterburner, the core boost is 1980 sustained out of the box but with a custom fan curve. Core +80, Memory +1325 results in a sustained core 2055 and memory 8325, both sustained during benchmarks, again a custom fan curve. I am only able to raise the power limit to 109, and I am certain that is hampering my overclock. Still, what I have puts it in non-OC 2080 Ti territory in games and benchmark results, not too bad for a $690 custom card + 2 games. Time Spy graphic score 12,589. CPU is a i7 7700K at 4.8GHz. [I know, $690 is still stupidly expensive, but I plan to keep this card for four or five years, as I did my MSI 980 Ti Lightning, possibly longer if I do not get a 4K screen, which I see no reason to get - ever.] I can overclock the core another +40 and memory +75, however, it is not stable in some demanding benchmarks. [I turned off LEDs by using Mystic Light 3, google it at MSI-com if you have MSI and want to change the lighting.] Another enjoyable video. Thank you.
How crazy the world is right now, @JayzTwoCents : I just bought a used Zotac 2080ti for CAD$1400!!! Canada Computers and EVGA cancelled my almost 5 month preorder I paid full price ahead on. At least the card I bought has an NZXT AIO cooler on it. It idles at 39C, mostly 50-60C on load, depending on game, 1440P ultrawide 144Hz :) IT does not always get me over 100FPS on High/Ultra in all games like the RTX 3080 would have done.
Would love to see something similar but with a 2080ti that is watercooled... :) just to see what kind of difference it makes when the Fans dont have to spin and the led is gone :)
InFlamesOfSorrow I’ll find out in about 3 weeks. Ordered a 2080ti FE and EK waterblock....but I’m sure Jay will get his waterblock before me. 2x 360mm rads Water cooled i7 5960x and soon to have my 1st watercooled GPU. I don’t see myself upgrading for a LONG time so I figured why not watercool it.
i just do 100 on the core and 600 on the memory and apply , job done , every card i've had from nvidia , never had a problem and it's a good oc once you've overclocked a few cards you know the limits , played with core clock up memory down , but memory gives me more speed in the animations of a game , so i go for high memory clock and a little punch in the core clocks to give it an extra boost ... core clock doesn't go much higher anyway before getting artifacts , with the memory that high
On a FTW3 I'm able to get 2040-2080MHz on the core and 8000MHz on memory without even touching the voltage or power limit. I used to have them maxed but when I started to become concerned with temps I reset them to default. Somehow I can still hit the same clock and it's stable as well as being much cooler. I've been able to go as high as 2100MHz before but it's not nearly as stable.
You must have been using your VPN while doing the Time Spy benchmark; as the leader board showed you were from Canada (12:31), which we all know is false. Good and informative video as always Jay :-)
Could you please also make a wallet overclocking guide as mine currently will bottleneck the purchase of a RTX card...
just buy a NIB titan Xp off ebay or something, with a bit of hunting you can get one sub 1000$ USD pretty easily
and it's slower than RTX 2080 ti by 5-15%, but it's physically smaller, runs cooler, OC"s higher, and has 1gb more vram (which is why i sold my MSI gtx 1080 ti FE and bought this, that 1gb makes a huge difference)
Wow! a wild Common Sense Hitler! :) If you can mention a 1000 dollar card and common sense in the same sentence :P
common sense is relative hehe, on the lower end you can get a used 1st gen 6gb titan for 200$ on ebay
Just. Get an rtx 2060 or 70
buy gtx 1650 lol its cheaper and good performance (kinda) but dont ever try ray tracing
Got mine for 450$ two years later loving it
Watch an overclocking guide for a card I will never probably own?! Yeah sure, anything for Jay.
connor weaver yeet
you're not the only one
Maybe one day when Nvidia launches a #*TX series and the price goes down
@@nazmulfahad3044 dont you know the laws of economics?? prices dont know what gravity is
Some of us do.
Yes I watch the end cards! Best damn end cards on the youtubes.
I almost always watch right to the very end as I never want to miss out on the bonus stuff.
I found that GTA V Max Setting when just playing and trying to gofast on the highway and making things explodes is a better benchmark than even Unigin Superposition Benchmark!
*Pro tip:* Disable all of your RGB LEDs so you can get 1.5 Mhz more power headroom.
I disable every RGB light in my case in a competitive game and I assure you I see and feel the difference. In fact I unplug every uneccesary USB and it also helps. Your pro tip is valid.
If you do that your of must be so shit
@@tweakersally4055 So what? Its choice, not law!
@@thathorrorshow4126 your cpu must be pretty garbage lol
@@tweakersally4055 What?
Thank you so much for explaining all of this. Hands down the most helpful over clock video for a GPU I have ever seen!!
This is relevant now that they are becoming affordable and worth their price! Thanks!!!!
I got a 2080 super and a 800w psu for $300, I’d say it’s the best deal I could’ve gotten
@@bluemarty8362 I got a Zotac AMP edition 2080ti for £200 last week, one previous owner, bargain
I just recently went from a Zotac GTX 1070 that you helped me learn to overclock (manually managed 2025MHz core, memory wouldn't do past 4007MHz effective clock) to an EVGA RTX 2080 Super Black Gaming Edition that I can manually overclock to 2040MHz core and 7751MHz effective memory clock. At the time these cards were new, they may not have been a huge step up over the previous GTX 1000 series tier for tier, but I am MUCH happier with the 2560x1440 performance with this card even out of the box going to a newer series and up a tier. Thank you for this overclocking tutorial!
I have a GTX 770 and with the 2080ti I would see a massive improvement, even with my i5 4670 (I'm aware of the also massive bottleneck). However, the XC Ultra that Jay is using here costs 1369€ (or 1611,24 USD) in Spain right now. I didn't expect such increase in prices.
I always skip a generation (skipped Pascal) so the upgrade from a 970 to a 2080 is amazing! And it was at a price that I almost was going to pay for a 1080 Ti when the mining crap was happening... So for me, I'm super happy with it. I get why pascal owners are a bit let down though, I'd stick to pascal until the 21 series for sure!
Kevin Orriss I skip 5 gens. Im on 600s hahahahahahhhaa
@@TvisZ before my 970 I had a 680. I just appreciate the jump in performance, it's like upgrading a HDD to an SSD but for GPUs
Kevin Orriss 970 is still a beast! I am not planning to upgrade anytime soon :P
well i skipped 3 generations, from 560 ti to 1060
Kevin Orriss Man, you are skipping the wrong way 😂😂😂
I honestly dont get why people are so bummed over these cards, if you currently have a 1080 or 1080TI you should be very happy, it looks like you have another good few years having a beast system that isn't gonna get crushed by the upcoming AAA games. For those that have those cards and really want the extra horsepower for 4K, you can get a good price for your old cards to put towards the 2080Ti as they are still relevant.
If you are building a system today you have a whole host of cards to choose from to suit all budgets and now that the cypto boom is over (for now) at least we are not being robbed by the vendors and being asked for over MSRP.
I am not sure why more are not looking at this way, you are not be forced up the upgrade path unless you really want to be.
Yeap. Only idiot children thing they need to upgrade their video cards if they currently have a 970 or more powerful with a 1440p or 1080p gaming situation.
my 8GB rx580 sapphire nitro+ card is handling my 1440p 100+ hz situation plenty fine on all of my titles...including witcher 3 and I'm still running at 2nd highest settings across the board ( 4790k cpu at 4.6ghz too)
"It's too expensive"
Then... don't buy it?
Johnny641 who are u trying to convince? Then or yourself?
NICE! I still can’t justify the cost of these.
neither can nvidia
Its the cost of having the fastest gpu on earth you god damn idiot
Fenix1861 people buy these and then play fortnite and shit lol
Trinajskaa The Titan V is the fastest GPU dude.
Trinajskaa no need to call anybody an idiot, that just made you look really immature. on topic though, these prices are not justified he is 100% correct, sure the cards are pretty amazing but why are they double the price of a 1080 ti when the performance increase compared to a 1080 ti is at most 35-40% better? over-priced plain and simple.
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And driving down the road I get a feeling
That I should have been home yesterday, yesterday
Country roads, take me home
To the place I belong
West Virginia, mountain mama
Take me home, country roads
Country roads, take me home
To the place I belong
West Virginia, mountain mama
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I keep coming back to this everytime I redo my Windows 10 installation. Awesome work on this Jayz!
I'd like to see shunt mods on the cards. This 120% power limit that Nvidia has is garbage.
I agree, asus strix has125, evga has 130, not sure about other cards
i dont know if it will be as easy this time around .. since the shunts are tied into their new current / power balancing circuits and nobody knows how they react .. or if you need to stay in between specific ranges etc. (for balancing power draw between the 2 PCIe connectors)
but i like how on stage it was "these cards are designed and build vor overclocking, these will have amazing overclocks" .. and now we hit power limit even without some power virus like furmark. .... build for overclocking my ass
DJRaffa1000 well it's not as bad as the "overclockers dream" at least haha. No idea why Nvidia didn't just ship the cards with higher max power limits, they are no where near connector limits and the VRM design on the ref PCBs are massively overkill.
They claim the voltage and power restrictions are there to guarantee at least 5 years of longevity for consumer. Increasing them far past these limits will kill the card faster.
@@kaihekoareichwein9392 Yeah i can understand capping the voltage for that reason (at least without a big "i understand what I'm doing and take full responsibility" disclaimer), and that no doubt caps the max theoretical frequency, but the cards have very strict current limits. Shunt modding a Titan V removes the current restriction without removing the voltage restriction yet it lets you pull silly amounts of power with it. Tu102 is nearly the same size so I'd guess that in theory it could pull similar amounts of power with the same voltage restrictions but no current restriction.
Guys, who are new to overclocking - don't trust 100% the heaven benchmark, because it doesn't mean that if it's stable in Heaven bench , it will be also when gaming. The best way is to start with Heaven or other bench, then move to playing games. I highly recommend, Battlefield 5, since the game is very sensitive to overclocks, so if your OC is not stable, it will crash to Windows. A good way to test the limits and lower when needed.
Best,
Best,
Thank you for this tutorial! I was able to overclock my 2060, and the results were awesome.
IMO, some probable reasons for the price hike are:
1. New technology R & D costs
2. US-China trade war = higher tariffs = lower profit margin
3. Bitcoin mining failure = decreased projected sales
Anyone else have anything to add?
Jeff RT china isn’t only country with minerals, but they’re one of the worst at producing quality products without 30 percent interest rates, while stealing your intellectual property
ASUS has 125 pwr limit....EVGA has 130 pwr limit so they are better than the founders edition card, honestly I'm interested in if shunt mods will work with the new power balancing these cards have.
It really doesn't matter since the voltage is locked down on all cards.
I wonder if there will be ways around this like ppl who shunt modded older cards or bios or power play tables on vega or something new
i have the same EVGA RTX 2080Ti XC Ultra. I was thinking to overclock it, and was a bit scared to do it, but now i feel better about doing it.
When will we see a dual 2080 Ti SLI Custom water cooled build?
I was going to build one. But Ti cards are delayed. All I got is a sli bridge for now.
nvlink
Mine will be done in about 14 days. If all goes to plan.
Are you going to use the founders edition? I heard it's quite a hassle disassembling them.
They will be founders editions. Yup. Wish they were evga now considering the power limits. Oh well.
9:00 was a dope transition
I've been looking at VR benchmarks (what few there is) and it looks like the 2080Ti is a good value for that, it's about 2x the performance of the 1080 in steam's VR bench and pretty much the only card you can use if you are getting a Pimax or other high pixel count headset
Regardless of some other comments below, I found this very interesting and informative. Thanks Jay for taking the time and posting.
8:58 Almost spat out my drink god damn
I got my RTX 280 for $400. I had $400 in store credit at Best Buy, and there was 1 left in stock. So, I picked it up to replace my GTX 1060 6GB. And so far, it's fantastic for what I paid for it. Paid only $400 out of pocket. Oh, and the performance bump is really nice too.
Some people bought these cards because they wait two generations before upgrading, not everyone goes from 1080ti to 2080ti
Exactly
In 2024.... 2080 is a super deal. For my EVGA 2080 super for $180 on Offerup. I'm getting 140~ fps in 1080 on warzone.
Intercepted text messages:
Jensen: Lisa, they overlocked it.
Lisa: OMG, LOL.
Jensen: K. See you thanksgiving. Bring the kids, Turkey will be Raytraced.
Lisa: LOL.
Jensen: Could you sort dessert, don’t have the time or room in oven.
Lisa: Don’t worry I will bring my famous soufflé, it’s always guaranteed to Ryzen.
you missed the joke, its supposedly her uncle
confirmed to be her uncle actually
"The Turkey will be raytraced" That sounds like it was cooked with highly dangerous Gamma radiation :D
Also would be good to mention to always keep in mind your total system power limit and your PSU wattage.
you gotta call those founder cards now for Apple-cards.
Watch the entirety of the vid, You could reduce that voltage. If you took it down -50 mV then you could hit that power limit less frequently. I thought you might of added this? I had to do this on pascal. Because its okay adding +200 on the clock but if you're smashing that power limit wall then it just downclocks. So you need to try and circumvent this. i took my overclock down to what it kept downclocking to i had 2100 but it kept down clocking to 2050 - 2063Mhz so i took it down to 2050. I then decided because i upped my voltage i might aswell take that down too. Kept testing and found i was hitting that power limit less frequently. Now in games i hold 2050mhz instead of it fluctuating all over. It used to drop down to 1988 or something occasionally when i had 2100 and the full 100Mv on the OC. You'll find frame times etc will be smoother too.
I need a guide on how to overclock my bank account to buy one of these
Super helpful even years later. Thanks!!!!
Lol max headroom. Always shilling out for coke
TechBaron, Cameras and more! What ?
Lmao i get it! 😂
Finally an explanation (although not directly) on how the Precision X1 software is intended to work/be used. Thanks, will help me with my new GTX 2060!
Appreciate ya!
People say Ray tracing is pointless but the. More I see it the more I appreciate the technology
It's not that it's pointless, it's just the current implementation in games is basically irrelevant and makes these cards prices unjustified
You do know that none of those benchmark scores were using Ray Tracing... there is no tech to appreciate
@@Ghostrunner55 I saying from the tech demos I've watched like BF5
makes no sense to buy $1200 card which is meant for 4k for 1080p ray tracing.
Topgearstig yeah sure buddy
Jay don't forget the cooler the silicon runs the less leakage there is internally. On a card like this you might save as much as 25-30 watts ditching all the rgbs and fans and getting the temps down from say 70c to 30-35c. That 30 watts can go towards the power limit, if your silicon can handle the clocks and power you'll keep going up in clocks. I really doubt there is much in it though. Big air coolers are plenty to get you 99% of the way there while remaining quiet.
omg when i turnd my fan speed up to a 100 my pc temp go from 40 to 19 c's XDD
Thanks for the info jay! I really needed this (im kinda new to X1 thanks!)
That’s impossible you can’t be running at 19c
Glad I saw this, recently purchased the 2080ti xc ultra, no clue about overclocking so this will help, also glad I got the Evga over the Nvidia FE.
FINALLY OVERCLOCKING
overclocking same as on 10 series... nobody showing how NVLink works and performance yet
Jaggsta unfortunately, that’s how business run these days.. Tbh there is some difference compared with 10x series but not as much as we expected
If you think of the 2080ti as the new Titan it makes it easier to buy it at 1200
Yeah I'm use to that kind of pricing anyway. I make money off of my computer so I need the best of the best.
But if you do that then you have to think of the 2080 as a 1080ti refresh with less ram and that makes both of them harder to buy.
yeah, but the titan Xp was not just 35% faster than then 980Ti.
its faster than a titan v but 58% cheaper
The 2080ti is this gens titan basically.
To the price that the 2080ti is. It does have value but really depends on the user's needs. This card beat out the titan V in n 3d rendering programs. Which to me is a huge price to performance. Less than half the price of a $3,000. Gpu and beating it.
If your just going to game, as of now it really isn't a Wow with the cost of this.
But new drivers and when we can use the other half of the gpu. This card could be worth the price for gaming as well. When games start implementing ray tracing and dlss. But as of now for gaming, it's a leap of faith. Unless your willing to pay the price for just 4k over 60fps.
I'm getting this but mainly for 3d rendering. Gaming is second with it. To me not a bad price at all. For what I'm going to use it for.
Nvidia did bad marketing with this release. And a terrible launch. They should of had something to show the other part of gpu (ray+dlss) being used in gaming. Everyone testing gaming and only using half the power on this card. Which could be a beast, we don't know until the card is running 100%. Still impressive, half the card being used beats a 1080ti 20-30% avg in games.
I was thinking on purchasing the EVGA 2080 Ti XC Ultra. This was the video I needed, thanks.
Bought it today. 👍
Want to hear a joke?
People pre-ordered these cards.
the real joke is people pre ordering the iphone xs max 512 gb $1500 model
Stilian I did and it’s amazing !
Joke is on you bitch for being a poor fuck that can't afford it.
just bought my RTX 2080 ti EVGA XC ULTRA! Fuck Ray Tracing, i want those frames!
This aged well..
1 year later these cards are now worth it and now I'm watching it. Thanks Jay. It was a good idea to do this when you did :)
*THIS VIDEO IS NOT POWERED BY RTX.*
*THUMBS DOWN.*
JK
Jay you should do an overclocking guide with the OC scanner
I can never get the OC scanner to work
"Does anyone even watch these end cards?" -Yes... Someone does.
Instructions unclear, overclocked my chair
What about memory speed overclock, Jay?
Great! Now please do a water cooled RTX block review. My preordered RTX 2080 TI Asus Dual should be here in a couple of days, and I want to get it into my custom loop ASAP. Thanks - you make learning fun....
13:19, other, darker, cringer side of Jay.
Thank you for telling us what driver you used. Helps us consumer base purchase decisions on ALL available facts.
Why am i watching this im poor
You never know. Keep the faith.
The same reason I watched Top Gear (when it was good), it's entertaining.
I have a evga sc2 hybrid 1080ti and I'm just laughing at this
Worry not, midline RTX will be comming Soon(tm)
So am i, after buying my 2080Ti
Hello!! It is now 2020! After getting a 2070 super to replace a faulty 1080ti. I managed to get an MSI Gaming X Trio 2080ti, only 3 months old for £450. I sold the 2070 super for £370! What a bargain, will keep me happy for 1440p gaming, for at least 3 year. No 3080's anywhere to be seen. So I am not even going to bother. I will wait for the next gen.
New gtxs are overhyped and overpriced.. Disappointment.
Man's waiting here for gtx/rtx 2050
Shut up poor kid
why u are waiting for such a low end card ?
1050 ti can gave you enough performence to play AAA titles with 60fps. Also, I like to have new stuff, that's why man's waiting here for 2050 c:
just buy used 10 series you can get 1070 for $200 and 1070Ti for $300 the 2050 will be a gtx 1070 or 1060 with no ray tracing.
@@liluuxv1436 The GTX 2050 should be on par with a GTX 1060 and it's not coming tell 2019. Your better off getting a GTX 1070 that will perform better than a 2050 and be cheaper since its older tech.
bought the 2080TI brand spankin, cause I had 2 1080ti's sli'd and couldn't play red dead with SLI config. Sold the 2 1080ti's and picked up the 2080ti for about $1400... so thanks for this
Sold out......People who bought them did not own a GTX 10 series card apparently, and don't care about the price.
Why would you buy an older card when a newer card exists in about the same price mark?
@@LoverKittey The average PC gamer doesn't care about power or cutting edge technology. They only care about price to performance. I'm an enthusiast so even though the 2080ti (FE) is overpriced I still picked mine up for true 4k gaming.
I have a 1080, a 1080ti, and pre ordered a 2080ti. I just want the fastest card and, I can't wait to buy the 7nm RTX ti card too. I think something like $5k is a bit much for a card but $1200 isn't completely crazy I don't think with all the tech in here. Sure a lot is not yet used but it will be soon. MW5 VR here I come
I would like to find out the pre order numbers. Honestly anyone could say "yeah we sold out in minutes" if you only had 10 of each card.
Meanwhile i got an Aorus 1080ti extreme edition for 710CAD$..., lol saved 400$ for more or less performance(my first idea was to buy a regular 2080) ....and at worse i could always resell it for 650CAD or more and put that money toward the rtx
13:22 YES WE DO, and it is very enjoyable. Great video as always Jay & company.
boi, I can't see the graphics card getting any worst...
Your actually wrong, it was a lot worse during the crypto mining era
Love the editing work with the text on screen and the scene transitions Jay. Give your editor a high five from me.
i wish i had good computer
Why don't you buy one then? XD
Build one don’t try to guilt trip famous people to get you to buy shit 1 it won’t work 2 ur a piece of shit for even trying get a job kid
1. Not even going to comment on grammar, I know you people stopped learning English language in schools years ago, 2. He's not whining, he is simply stating he wishes he had a good PC, so stop fucking riding him.
@@bromazepam781 I wish I had a million dollars, but I can't have it over night... However he could just go to buy a PC if he wishes so. If he can't afford high end one, he could buy a cheap one. He didn't specify what kind of PC he wants.
Also yeah, I don't bother checking my grammar, however I do know that I type clear enough for everyone to understand. This is a comment section, not a school or formal letter etc...
Wasn't replying to you, sir or madam, both of your replies are perfectly understandable; I was referring to the ghetto RUclips tough guy beneath your 1st comment.
As for PC's, I agree with you, they can come in all sizes & shapes and a cheaper PC with a smaller card can fulfill its dedicated role decently - not everyone needs 10 to 50 % increase, and I don't know people who buy the most expensive hardware for the sole purpose of watching them benchmark all the time. I know I don't benchmark my Intel NVME, I just enjoy the speed with which it handles OS or programs like Photoshop CS6 and AutoCAD.
For me, these videos with idiotically big cards that cost more than some other people's entire rigs are just for informative purpose. Even if I had enough money, I would not buy the biggest, most expensive card, because smaller one would need less W's and cash savings would open up more options on other ends (more RAM, bigger hard drive and so on).
I just bought a used EVGA 2080ti XC Hybrid Liquid Cooled. It factory clocks up to 1905Mhz at 50-55c. Seems like I have plenty of head room for a couple hundred more MHz. I was thinking of changing out the Thermal Paste and Pads (Thermal Grizzly) to see how much of an improvement that makes...
I just grabbed one of these cards for $225 to match with my Kraken AIO cooler and Corsair H55.
Planning to go balls to the wall with overclocking to see how hard I can push it.
Thanks for the video Jay, keep coming back to it
This editing was freakin' pristine. 👌
Great video! Thanks for showing us this. Will you please do a OC tutorial with this card on water? Would love to see how to push mine to the max!
I notice Jay never uses Further but uses Farther, did not even know farther existed untill i looked it up.
Yes Phil I watch the whole video and I must say your editing has been great. Keep up the good work.
8:57 Edgar Wright would be proud of that transition.
JaYZ IS FROM Canada, that explains alot
The OC ability of the custom cooler seems a lot better than the stock cooler due to air flow, but the real meat and potatoes will come out from the custom PCBs like ICX and such. An EVGA GeForce 2080Ti iCX design like a FTW model or KingPin edition will probably hit even higher. The real speed limits of these cards will probably be found once Colorful iGame gets their KUDAN model up and running.
Job job. I bought a RTX 2080 to replace my 1080ti and am hopeful more waterblocks enter the market
"Scratching there ass".......Hay, all of your little "nuggets & sayings" that come out of your mouth are just so hilarious! You truly make things interesting & funny......
Side note, a blooper/outtake vid from every year would be AWESOME to watch,least I think so....the little teasers you give us are funny & would like to see one from entire year(maybe 1-1.5 hrs long if have the length etc....). Heck, probably would pay $2.99-$3.99 for a disc😉
Waiting for follow up vid to this one😉
Cheers, A
speaking of fans needing power. when overclocking my 1050ti because the power limit is soo much lower the fan speed can actually take a good 100mhz or more from my clocks. and similarly to my 1060. good note jayz :)
im getting a 1070ti tomorrow really nice upgrade over a 1050ti and for 350 which is a steal
3d mark ray tracing RTX benchmark, WHAAAAT
I can't wait for that!
0:05 The RTX illusion on the workbench. IF u look at the PCIE slots ... YEs NO ?
Just pulled the trigger on a 2080 Super. Hopefully it will do better than my old 970
my dual card bridged EVGA cards does 20553 on Alienware R7 the results are from Superposition Benchmark
Precision x1 looks so nice and easy to use now.
The founders card on the Nvidia web site has a high frequency and more Tensor cores. The fonder cards seems to be the workstation version of the cards
What's more important to oc core clock or memory clock? For example 1. It didn't crash when +92 core clock and 1100 memory clock. 2. It didn't crash when +132 core clock and 750 memory clock.
I doubt they are really sold out. MS did the same thing when the xb1 launched. Companies know how to work with retailers to fabricate the perception of high demand. I guess we'll know soon enough.
Do you remember your video "Do riser cards affect performance?" I'd like to see if having the GPU seated in such a way that one of the main exhausts isn't blocked by the motherboard would improve temps
Yes, i have to pause and use the period key to frame by frame move, but I do watch those end cards.
I have my MSI RTX 2080 Gaming X and overclocked it using MSI Afterburner, the core boost is 1980 sustained out of the box but with a custom fan curve. Core +80, Memory +1325 results in a sustained core 2055 and memory 8325, both sustained during benchmarks, again a custom fan curve. I am only able to raise the power limit to 109, and I am certain that is hampering my overclock. Still, what I have puts it in non-OC 2080 Ti territory in games and benchmark results, not too bad for a $690 custom card + 2 games. Time Spy graphic score 12,589. CPU is a i7 7700K at 4.8GHz. [I know, $690 is still stupidly expensive, but I plan to keep this card for four or five years, as I did my MSI 980 Ti Lightning, possibly longer if I do not get a 4K screen, which I see no reason to get - ever.] I can overclock the core another +40 and memory +75, however, it is not stable in some demanding benchmarks. [I turned off LEDs by using Mystic Light 3, google it at MSI-com if you have MSI and want to change the lighting.]
Another enjoyable video. Thank you.
How crazy the world is right now, @JayzTwoCents : I just bought a used Zotac 2080ti for CAD$1400!!! Canada Computers and EVGA cancelled my almost 5 month preorder I paid full price ahead on. At least the card I bought has an NZXT AIO cooler on it. It idles at 39C, mostly 50-60C on load, depending on game, 1440P ultrawide 144Hz :)
IT does not always get me over 100FPS on High/Ultra in all games like the RTX 3080 would have done.
Got a 2080 ti for $370 after taxes (one of highest in US) and shipping off eBay. It’s a beast for 1440p 144hz and high settings even today
Got one recently, has lots of frame drops, I’m hoping upping the power draw and changing the fan curves will change it. Might just be old… :(
I didn't think it would happen, but I actually bought an RTX 2080 last week, it was much cheaper than any 1080ti has ever been in my country
Phills editing is so funny
Is it bad that I got distracted by Jay saying crank the fans right as the windmill pops up on the benchmark at 6:37 ?
Would love to see something similar but with a 2080ti that is watercooled... :)
just to see what kind of difference it makes when the Fans dont have to spin and the led is gone :)
InFlamesOfSorrow
I’ll find out in about 3 weeks.
Ordered a 2080ti FE and EK waterblock....but I’m sure Jay will get his waterblock before me.
2x 360mm rads
Water cooled i7 5960x and soon to have my 1st watercooled GPU.
I don’t see myself upgrading for a LONG time so I figured why not watercool it.
Sounds nice! let us know how it went :_)
@@InFlamesOfSorrow looks like he never let you know
i just do 100 on the core and 600 on the memory and apply , job done , every card i've had from nvidia , never had a problem and it's a good oc
once you've overclocked a few cards you know the limits , played with core clock up memory down , but memory gives me more speed in the animations of a game ,
so i go for high memory clock and a little punch in the core clocks to give it an extra boost ... core clock doesn't go much higher anyway before getting artifacts , with the memory that high
Nice looking EVGA card. Like the cooler temps, but wasn't that impressed with OC for the price. Maybe need to see it compared to 1080s in a chart. 😕
On a FTW3 I'm able to get 2040-2080MHz on the core and 8000MHz on memory without even touching the voltage or power limit. I used to have them maxed but when I started to become concerned with temps I reset them to default. Somehow I can still hit the same clock and it's stable as well as being much cooler. I've been able to go as high as 2100MHz before but it's not nearly as stable.
You must have been using your VPN while doing the Time Spy benchmark; as the leader board showed you were from Canada (12:31), which we all know is false.
Good and informative video as always Jay :-)