Samito and Chipsa on the Problem of Doomfist

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  • @GetQuakedOn
    @GetQuakedOn 3 года назад +323

    i personally don't think baps lamp is an issue with doomfist even before the nerfs. you just have to change the way you engage on someone. if there is a small roof on their head and he throws lamp then its gg.
    i just think it's the amount of CC this game has and the amount of mid / long range burst heroes have (aka cree). doom is just an easy hero to counter. hes loud, has a massive hitbox, predictable movement, the game has a ton of damage output and doom has to be literally melee range to get any value.
    doom has a lot of bugs too
    like if you go for slam uppercut combos
    zarya - bubbles the enemy
    hog - hooks you out of combo
    sig - rock
    mccree - flash
    sombra - hack
    dva - matrix your shots and boop you with flight making u miss shots
    ashe - deletes health and can use shift to fuck your combo up
    lucio - boops u out of combo
    turret - turret
    ana - sleep
    brig - whip / shield bash your combos
    orisa - pulls you so you cant escape
    like i can keep going on and on. this hero has so many counters it's stupid.
    dooms main engagements is punching. (punch botting zzz)
    it's the easiest way to play doom (i think punch botting is harder than play hitscan tbh)
    it's the best way to play doom (so boring yet it gets the most value)
    i just wish they can make dooms slam uppercut combo the main engagement and some how make it where he doesn't instantly die when you go in. i don't know if doom having more shields would be the play there but man it feels like shit playing doom hence why i do stupid rollouts cause that shit is fun lmao
    and you have the RNG impact system which is awful.
    ultimate. my god don't even get me started on that bullshit.

    • @Aliberator2
      @Aliberator2 3 года назад +1

      Quuuuuaaaaake😊😀

    • @bloodwing5115
      @bloodwing5115 3 года назад +12

      i have said this time and time again but bap's immortality is stupid because it just feels so retarded that an ability on a 30 sec cooldown can counter ults it just feels braindead they should literally just swap amp matrix with lamp and make lamp his ult so that nxt time the bap has to think twice before using it also now that lamp is his ult people will be aware that lamp has been used as now it has a voice line as far is doom is concerned that character is straight up dead when ur counter can literally flash and right click u to death

    • @cvgneeb2040
      @cvgneeb2040 3 года назад +1

      Your playstyle of doomfist has no obligation to be good. You play a roll out doomfist which is a non-optimal way of playing him. Saying for example, “I wanna play flank orisa, but it’s so bad because of defense matrix, flash, ashe. Playing main tank orisa zzzz so easy gets so much value. At the end of the day, you choose how you want to play the game, it just so happens that your playstyle is bad.

    • @orioio5940
      @orioio5940 3 года назад +2

      Turret - turret lmao

    • @GetQuakedOn
      @GetQuakedOn 3 года назад +24

      @@cvgneeb2040 When I am talking about doom I am not talking about the rollout playstyle. I am talking about the intended way he's suppose to be played. Punching enemies and slam uppercut comboing enemies.
      You can't play rollout doomfist without learning how to play every possible playstyle on doomfist first
      I am well aware playing rollout doomfist is just a meme.

  • @lincolnchildress6539
    @lincolnchildress6539 3 года назад +355

    Dva remech literally has a bigger kill radius than doom ult

    • @bloodwing5115
      @bloodwing5115 3 года назад +6

      LMAOOOOOO this comment has made my day

    • @edd6927
      @edd6927 3 года назад +22

      And is a lot faster

    • @EBG...
      @EBG... 3 года назад +9

      @@edd6927 and is alot less detectable. If you don't see baby dva, you don't know its coming until its too late.

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад +5

      Fuck dva call mech fucking april fools joke.

    • @angrybirdsking123
      @angrybirdsking123 3 года назад +8

      Thats fucking sad. I main doomfist have 300+ hours on him and this made me shed a single tear

  • @for3v3xyy0ung
    @for3v3xyy0ung 3 года назад +415

    Brandito and getquakedon should get in on this

    • @xshadow2482
      @xshadow2482 3 года назад +5

      You already know

    • @nuraxgaming6601
      @nuraxgaming6601 3 года назад +10

      Getquakedon left a comment on this video, it shouldn't be that hard to find

    • @athing8523
      @athing8523 3 года назад

      But then it's just the og doom god's and samito talking. Pretty biased

    • @keiranhughes8174
      @keiranhughes8174 3 года назад

      they always talk about the ult being garbo in vids

    • @catharticchills_
      @catharticchills_ 3 года назад +3

      Don’t forget Zbra too

  • @KingSlayerGoose
    @KingSlayerGoose 3 года назад +89

    I remember recently chipsa compared dooms ult to tracers recall which I thought was funny as I never noticed how true that is til now

    • @jptrady1997
      @jptrady1997 3 года назад +17

      Only sad difference is that one is a cooldown 💀

    • @KingSlayerGoose
      @KingSlayerGoose 3 года назад +4

      @@jptrady1997 yeah ikr, meanwhile dooms is an ult he has to work towards lol

  • @acrobatmapping
    @acrobatmapping 3 года назад +195

    Doom got nerfed during double shield meta when he was one of only viable dps, but he didn't actually need a nerf. It was the double shields that were making the other dps nonviable not doom's strength. I'd say that is the root cause of it.

    • @KingSlayerGoose
      @KingSlayerGoose 3 года назад +7

      No one except double shield players disagrees

    • @patricknaisbitt7445
      @patricknaisbitt7445 3 года назад +7

      Are u dumb? Doom is incredibly broken just like widow. Only a doom player will disagree

    • @JustAJ-Official
      @JustAJ-Official 3 года назад

      @@patricknaisbitt7445 nah as someone who plays doom he's broken a bit.

    • @inm7879
      @inm7879 3 года назад +7

      Oh, he did require nerfs. Launch doom was the most broken and skilless character in the history of ow with the old uppercut which locked anyone in 3 seconds stun animations, and current doom isn't far away from the old one

    • @JustAJ-Official
      @JustAJ-Official 3 года назад +24

      @@inm7879 Doom still gets hard countered now after his uppercut nerfs, his stung time on uppercut is freaking trash though, mccree can just flashbang doomfist and kill the doom, it's understandable if the nerf was needed but after that It makes doomfist unplayable if a mccree is on the field.

  • @ChaseWithAMace
    @ChaseWithAMace 3 года назад +32

    I’ve always thought it was crazy how high tier doomfist players would use an AoE ULTIMATE ability just so they can get highground, or a mega. If that doesn’t spell underpowered idk what does lol. This is prolly a bad analogy, but that’s like Genji ulting so he can dash twice to get to a mega or highground, and then going back in with just shurikens and reflect.

  • @doommissed97
    @doommissed97 3 года назад +80

    This is the greatest thing I’ve ever seen

  • @hidinfromdacops2246
    @hidinfromdacops2246 3 года назад +46

    Okay think about it. The META and perfect state of the game is a cute girl, and Doomfist is trying to take her on a date, but the dad, Baptiste, won’t let him no matter what

    • @andyexposito8933
      @andyexposito8933 3 года назад +4

      More like. Doom sees Diva on Instagram and finds out about the meta. He is mad that he is left out and asks daddy Jeff for a better ult. Jeff in return leaves and doom kills himself
      The diva uses her annoying voice line: hahaha Gee geeeeeeee

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад

      I would die to never have that happen

  • @emmanuelgarcia7027
    @emmanuelgarcia7027 3 года назад +91

    Now chipsa should react to you reacting to chipsa

    • @dagothur2720
      @dagothur2720 3 года назад +6

      would be legendary honestly

    • @thepigeonman_
      @thepigeonman_ 3 года назад +10

      @@dagothur2720 and then sam would react to chipsa reacting to sam reacting to chipsa

    • @fadew55
      @fadew55 3 года назад +11

      And it will continue forever, neither one wanting to be the one to end it all... We can only hope

  • @Declan..
    @Declan.. 3 года назад +80

    Doomfist rant! Was waiting on this one

  • @alexisbedard1717
    @alexisbedard1717 3 года назад +17

    I saw the thumbnail and already knew this was going to be spicy lmao

  • @damascusace2304
    @damascusace2304 3 года назад +23

    9:54 perfectly timed

  • @Pip_07
    @Pip_07 3 года назад +5

    I love the point of the damage ramp on doom's ult. Maybe it can be a shockwave after the initial damage so you can land on lamp, and then kill through with the shockwave and the shockwave ramps damage depending on how many people you hit?

  • @adifferentlynameduser7050
    @adifferentlynameduser7050 3 года назад +30

    Geez Chipsa is looking healthy good on him!

  • @dark_matter8420
    @dark_matter8420 3 года назад +30

    Crazy idea for Doomfist ult. Make Doomfist an actual projectile that does damage when he comes down, so if he lands on an immortality field, he destroys it before landing on the ground and doing his AOE damage.
    Plus, that would make for the super rare crazy moment of sniping a Pharah out of the sky with a fucking Doomfist ult.

    • @ashoif77
      @ashoif77 3 года назад +8

      That still wont work. Lamp's immortality effect lasts a hair longer after the lamp has been destroyed. Thats why D.va bomb doesn't one-shot everyone after it breaks lamp
      It works like: Burst DMG comes in --> Lamp breaks --> Immo effect is still active for like a second.

    • @robertdunne1842
      @robertdunne1842 3 года назад +2

      @@ashoif77 he means slight delay, like land on the lamp, breaking it, projectile continues to the ground, dealing its damage

  • @shred_ninja1316
    @shred_ninja1316 3 года назад +9

    Yeah....I can’t remember the last time I saw a Doom ult on the kill feed

  • @TerranMarineCore
    @TerranMarineCore 3 года назад +48

    Amen chipsas right its more of a get out of jail free card than an ultimate.

    • @jptrady1997
      @jptrady1997 3 года назад +12

      Worst part about it is that other dps have It as a cooldown😂 tracker recall, reapers wraith Sombra tp but doom has to use his ult

    • @lincolnchildress6539
      @lincolnchildress6539 3 года назад +14

      @@jptrady1997 Moira fade. Such a low skill
      hero lmao

    • @patricknaisbitt7445
      @patricknaisbitt7445 3 года назад

      Dooms ult is exactly what it needs to be. Stop trying to buff an already broken hero. He has 90 different one shot combos. His ult is a free roll out set up, or if u go deep for a kill u can use it to get out.

    • @patricknaisbitt7445
      @patricknaisbitt7445 3 года назад

      @@jptrady1997 and none of those characters are as high aggression as doom. He has shorter cooldowns so he can play so aggressive. So what if his ult is a get out free card. He builds it very fast, plus his ult is better used as a set up for huge damage slams. Use ur brain

    • @TerranMarineCore
      @TerranMarineCore 3 года назад +4

      @@patricknaisbitt7445 90 different one shot combos? Shut up Patrick. Just shut up lol

  • @QuadrantCD
    @QuadrantCD 3 года назад +13

    I agree with not allowing blade to be boosted or lowering the amount it gets boosted from nano. I DESPISE how his whole character is controlled by not only his own ult but another characters ult and can't recive any buffs because it would help you get blade faster. Genji has paper Shurikens that don't even fire that fast, abilities that are outdatted while still having long cooldowns, has an ok at best ult by itself but as soon as nano gets put into the equation he's broken. The idea that such a unique high skill character's play style has been so trivialized because they have almost no in fight potential is straight depressing. Blizzard is letting one of their most well designed heros go to waste

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад

      Genji shuriken damage no fall off so annoying to deal with

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад

      Also when genji deflects guns with spread say bastion, the deflected bullets don't have spread which is op

    • @verykittypretty
      @verykittypretty 3 года назад +1

      @@aaron30716 lol

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад

      @@verykittypretty it's true

  • @NiceGamer-sn5bw
    @NiceGamer-sn5bw 3 года назад +4

    Keep making videos like this, I love the educational conversation happening.

  • @solvolysis
    @solvolysis 3 года назад +26

    alright. my take is that doomfist needs to be buffed because the amount of skill he takes is insane for how bad he is. mccree requires nothing but SLIGHT aim and he counters every single part of doom. doom requires map knowledge, every detail, bounce, perch, etc. cooldown usage, when to push, coordination. and mccree literally doesnt need anyone of those

    • @untoldpaine
      @untoldpaine 3 года назад +1

      agreed. but blizzard wont. the bronze support masses will complain and call him easy. theyd rather power creep reaper when hes finally in a good spot because now that he takes brains to use nobody wants to use him. smh.

    • @JstStynPositive
      @JstStynPositive 3 года назад

      litterally seen cree potg where they stun + right click someone, miss 6 regular shots, ult and get 2 more kills. it's sad. at this point bastion, junk, maybe even mei requires more skill

    • @roguepossum9172
      @roguepossum9172 3 года назад +1

      @@JstStynPositive Junkrat takes so much more skill like sure spamming pipes at a choke and shield is brain dead but actual kills takes very good precision and Cree is just point and click

    • @charshii3745
      @charshii3745 3 года назад +1

      Have you ever thought you’d see a day when people are say Junk, Mei, and Doom require more skill that Cree

    • @roguepossum9172
      @roguepossum9172 3 года назад +1

      @@charshii3745 Cree is point and click at least those characters take some sort of precision. Yes junk and mei are brain dead if you spam at a choke. No one says hanzo is no skill even tho he just shoots shield until it goes down and gets a pick same as Cree. And you can not say flash fan takes any skill

  • @xyzbca110
    @xyzbca110 3 года назад +6

    10:23 dude I’ve been saying this for so long. If you want an accurate description of the state of overwatch. Nobody can answer better than ChipSa.

  • @SuperPickle12
    @SuperPickle12 3 года назад +14

    His take on hog was VERY on the mark

  • @CosmicMonkey123
    @CosmicMonkey123 3 года назад +69

    Get Quaked on been saying this. Even Doomfist punch charge up time was completely unnecessary

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад

      Was necessary

    • @austinvaughn8249
      @austinvaughn8249 3 года назад +3

      @@aaron30716 braindead

    • @FeelGoodDivine
      @FeelGoodDivine 3 года назад +4

      no, much shorter charge yes, no charge is crazy

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад +2

      @@austinvaughn8249 so i take it you can't let people have their own fucking opinions.

    • @Kody-mo3fy
      @Kody-mo3fy 3 года назад +1

      How about remove punch and replace it because an instakill on 4 second cooldown that is also a movement ability and a stun it's just retarded.
      That's like saying tracers blinks should do damage. Doomfist players are the most delusional people in this game

  • @qbert362
    @qbert362 3 года назад +7

    Imagine if Doomfist’s ult was where all his abilities were on a 1 second cool down for 10 seconds

    • @jesperswag
      @jesperswag 3 года назад

      Woaah

    • @chad5115
      @chad5115 3 года назад

      Imagine punching 10 times in 10 seconds lmaooo. Good idea but maybe lower the abilities to 1 second for 6-8 seconds

    • @qbert362
      @qbert362 3 года назад

      @@chad5115 Good idea

    • @greness1471
      @greness1471 3 года назад +1

      Instead of one second, reduce to half cooldown, but also increase shield gain per ability hit

    • @manjunath414
      @manjunath414 3 года назад +2

      So a self Nano Boost , Like a Berserker mode . Sounds noice , but will probably need to be balanced,
      Kinda like Winston Jump in his ult .

  • @_Libosido
    @_Libosido 3 года назад +6

    10-times nerfed Brig isnt problem and she is balanced. If you miss whip, you have no heal output, packs have long cd, your HP is low but you are forced to play melee , her destroyed shield have 5sec recovery=eternity in OW and her winrate is above 50% only for GM and she have really low pickrate in competetive _(ranked)_ OW.
    Balancing heroes around pro-scene and 5% top players is unhealthy and unfun for rest 95% players, because you compare to two different worlds.

  • @brandona9294
    @brandona9294 3 года назад +4

    what if you know how he produces shield with his abilities, the damage he does with his ult increases depending on how much shield has accumulated. itll incentivize aggressive plays to push how much you can dish out

  • @Real_Nutella
    @Real_Nutella 3 года назад +1

    I'm so glad multiple people in top 500/owl are saying these things. I also have an idea for sigma. When he has his shield out, his ammo isn't infinite. He should only be able to use so much when he has his shield up, because I guess his gravity powers are limited when he's using a lot of his kit

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад

      No that is not fair at least make it a quick reload

  • @itsatomic0389
    @itsatomic0389 3 года назад +8

    Dooms ult gives 75 shield per enemy hit, maxing out out 150 shield. This means, if you hit 2+ people, you aren’t rewarded. So, hypothetically say doom hits 6 people with his ult, he receives 150 shield from two of the enemies, then in order to reward Doom for hitting a fat ultimate, each enemy hit gives an additional 37.5 damage (half of 75 shield I think bonus 75 dmg would be too strong as 75x4 is 300, add the 300 from the ult and you’d be killing all the cast). This means you’d do 300 dmg, and 37.5x4 which is 150, resulting in 450dmg. This change would reward Doomfist for hitting big ultimates and make him actually able to kill most of the cast.

  • @mattyarnall4902
    @mattyarnall4902 3 года назад +16

    I think Doom needs to build more shields with his cool downs.

    • @b33lze6u6
      @b33lze6u6 3 года назад +11

      he used to, they nerfed that from 35 to 30 during double shield

    • @MaChoo89
      @MaChoo89 3 года назад +1

      No

    • @questionablelifechoices7501
      @questionablelifechoices7501 3 года назад +2

      Survivability isn’t really his problem.

    • @b33lze6u6
      @b33lze6u6 3 года назад +14

      @@questionablelifechoices7501 it sort of is..
      Mostly when you go in and get cc'd to death or evaporated by torbs ridiculous auto aim turret.
      But you are partially correct his survivability is high in a duel 1v1 scenario, but then again so is tracers...

    • @mompleaser
      @mompleaser 3 года назад

      @@b33lze6u6 Tracer survivability is also dependent on the person who is playing her, if you arent playing her well then its ggs

  • @BAMGamingTTV
    @BAMGamingTTV 3 года назад +32

    Let’s get it sam

  • @jrodd13
    @jrodd13 3 года назад +5

    15:05 and you know what Blizzard would do to compensate for Genji being bad? Buff him rather than nerf and fix the actual issues with the game, and if they nerf the issues it's not even a nerf because they almost always compensate buff.

    • @Kadou1
      @Kadou1 3 года назад

      The problem is they can’t buff him. He’s an extremely underpowered character with low dps value that can get replaced by anyone. Dragon blade is by far one of the worst ults in the game. But the reason they can’t buff him is cause he’s already viable but only when you run nanoblade or grav and zarya and Ana are very common. So basically if nanoblade isn’t nerfed the character himself cannot get buffed unfortunately. He’s just a weak character that is very strong when comboed with Ana or zarya.

  • @robertosterblom9784
    @robertosterblom9784 3 года назад +1

    I formed an idea with your take on sigma being able to not shoot while shielding, it would be a "stance switch mechanic" similar to the warrior class in WoW where they are able to switch between offense and defense. However, when the hero switches stances it will have abilities that will be specific for the stance; for example, when sigma switches stance from offense to defense he will be able to use the abilities that are in the defense stance that he can't use in offense. The stance switch should be on a cooldown to make it more decision making. Good video!

  • @_Djura_
    @_Djura_ 3 года назад +7

    Chipsa is so fkn smart! That's why I love him and his videos

  • @AeroOW
    @AeroOW 3 года назад +1

    Sam btw, reaper is meta in OWL right now. The meta is Winston D.Va Echo Reaper Lucio Moira, Reaper is VERY good rn in owl

  • @1993xavier
    @1993xavier 3 года назад +7

    Now THAT’S a thumbnail 👍🏽

  • @rawr4444
    @rawr4444 2 года назад +2

    I want Doomfist rework. But I hate playing against him.
    To make him work the best you literally have to exploit the map. People play him unironically by just walking to high grounds and doing the same type of attack at the same choke over and over.
    It's such a garbage way for the game to work to have him land on your head from out of vision, without a sound (because his slam is used before you even hear or see him). Even if he is slept or stunned or something he can still get a kill and get out.

  • @ghostoftheuchiha1184
    @ghostoftheuchiha1184 3 года назад +25

    Doomfist needs buff with his ult and I think your could cancel slam like when you go off the map you can cancel it and get back to the map like cancel then rocket punch back to the map.

    • @-Hold_this
      @-Hold_this 3 года назад +5

      Possibly tighten the spread very slightly on his primary as well, I feel like it’s very inconsistent sometimes

    • @karbonite2304
      @karbonite2304 3 года назад +1

      @@-Hold_this if the spread was reduced doom would be so op

    • @solvolysis
      @solvolysis 3 года назад

      he definitely wouldnt lmao. that small of a change would not fix any of his main issues

  • @radicalmetal_yt5574
    @radicalmetal_yt5574 3 года назад +30

    I feel like Genji's kinda in the same boat as doom tbh

    • @Benji-ky2or
      @Benji-ky2or 3 года назад +8

      Genji has it worse

    • @bloodwing5115
      @bloodwing5115 3 года назад +10

      Ngl genji feels dogshit when there is aoe healing in the opponent team it literally feels like u are tickling them but when there is no aoe heal he is still viable

    • @youraveragebronzegenji_ow3377
      @youraveragebronzegenji_ow3377 3 года назад +8

      doom is genji but with a oneshot

    • @emiliox4474
      @emiliox4474 3 года назад +6

      @@youraveragebronzegenji_ow3377 and more bugs

    • @SFJake250
      @SFJake250 3 года назад +6

      Genji is more consistent and less buggy. But being consistently shittier than Doom isn't much.

  • @HowCouldYouu
    @HowCouldYouu 3 года назад +2

    they should give genji's deflect a multiplier, for the more projectiles you deflect the higher the multiplier scales. (obviously the multiplier resets at the end of deflect)

    • @bloodwing5115
      @bloodwing5115 3 года назад

      Genji is just another hero which is too hard to balance u increase his power a little bit and he becomes broken,this is evident from the last major buff genji got
      His changes got reverted in like just a week and a half

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад

      Not so fucking fun fact genji when he deflects heroes with spread the deflected dmg doesn't have spread

  • @x-e-lc-i-o-r3558
    @x-e-lc-i-o-r3558 3 года назад +4

    I think these days it’s easier to damage 6 enemy players with meteor strike than to actually get a kill with it

  • @M0ntario
    @M0ntario 3 года назад +3

    Yo doom ult should be like a power buff, kinda like nano on himself but it gives him shorter cool downs and more dmg.

    • @SasquatchPJs
      @SasquatchPJs 3 года назад

      He doesn't need more damage, he needs to be able to actually do the damage he's already is capable of. Half his cooldowns for like 8 seconds and let him go full fighter mode. He can build shields quickly off low cds so as long as you don't get deleted (the same as every other dps ult tbf) you can hit and maintain up to 400hp (which with nano would be scary af as it's essentially up to 800hp.)

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад

      No 2 second cooldown on punch i don't want to think about that btw in total mahem df can fly

  • @himzane7976
    @himzane7976 3 года назад +11

    In my opinion doomfist is broken. You activate slam. while flying through air at your target you hold down your primary FIRE. once you land on said target, immediately smash your uppercut… you have officially animation cancelled one shot a sqishy while having an escape and CC and armor… good luck rinsing and repeating.

  • @return3116
    @return3116 3 года назад +4

    25 more dmg per player u land on would make grav doom really good too. I like that idea lol.

  • @benpearce9016
    @benpearce9016 3 года назад +2

    He can only be op or awful and there’s no in-between, if he was removed 95% if the play base would love it

    • @Methysal
      @Methysal 3 года назад

      Agree blizzard never should have made him or brig.
      Terrible ideas.

  • @livefreeprintguns
    @livefreeprintguns 3 года назад +3

    Can I unironically ask a question to Doomfist mains? If given the option, would you agree to delete Doomfist from the game if Brig was also deleted?

  • @please_rng9286
    @please_rng9286 3 года назад +2

    Keep in mind, yes zen has a pick rate 5x that of doom. But, if you have 2-2-2 role lock and one of those pools has 20 possible options and the other has 5.. then naturally the one from the bigger pool should be expected to have a much lower pick rate regardless of any other factor, that’s just simple mathematics.

  • @livefreeprintguns
    @livefreeprintguns 3 года назад +9

    4:53 Where was all this energy when Zen's would get punished by Doom for existing, but now when *your* favorite hero isn't as viable anymore and is easily punished, it's time to make videos about it? Show me your highlight reel of when you were like "Oh man this is so unfair to supports lol unlucky" and I'll be more prone to listen to the grievances.

    • @Methysal
      @Methysal 3 года назад +4

      The truth is they just like abusing skillfist. The fact chipsas worst enemy is widowmaker goes to prove how much he hates actual skill.

    • @livefreeprintguns
      @livefreeprintguns 3 года назад +3

      @@Methysal I couldn't be paid to disagree with this. Say what you want about Widow, at least it requires more mechanics than just -holding down m2- charging a fist punch.

    • @d.j.3462
      @d.j.3462 3 года назад +1

      I also don’t think it is fair for them to compare pick rates of DPS to zen. Hello?! You have an entire DPS buffet of hero choices and zen is one of 6 options in his role. Also, Brig is probably picked at a high rate to counter Tracer who can shred through supports who are sitting ducks. If Tracer has a high pick rate, Brig is often compulsory to just participate in the team fight.

    • @rawr4444
      @rawr4444 2 года назад +2

      Doom is so tricky. He is OP, but still bad. It's weird.

    • @rawr4444
      @rawr4444 2 года назад +1

      @@Methysal Yeah, they just want to insta-kill, one-shot or combo some poor unaware enemy to death in 0,01 seconds. They love slamming from so high above you can't even hear or see him engage. Doomfist so fucking broken.
      Sure his ultimate isn't that good for what it's meant for, but you can literally avoid STUCK PULSEBOMBS with it. It's like a second life and guaranteed high-ground engage with 125 slam. I get it's frustrating that your ultimate is so bad it's used for positioning rather than damage but you can position higher up than fucking Phara can fly and also it cleanses pulse-bomb, anti-nade etc.

  • @SuperSeenith
    @SuperSeenith 3 года назад +3

    Seeing that graph really makes it seem like the heroes in overwatch are good, medium and bad - look at the drop off in usage going from Mei to Ashe, and then again going from Mercy to Orisa

  • @Ho11ow661
    @Ho11ow661 3 года назад +1

    By the way brig might not require aim but she brings a mace to a gunfight. That is difficult in its own way. Someone with a gun might need aim and that requires skill but their process of engaging and disengaging requires almost no skill. It's not difficult to pick a corner shoot somebody and then hide again. A Brig player may not need to aim aside from whipshot but If a Brig player is going to engage they need to actually run up to the enemy tactically engage and then make sure they have an escape route to disengage and survive that. It requires a lot more skill on your in consideration in your disengagement and engagements because you essentially put yourself out there in the open in the middle of the action.

  • @eddiehart9734
    @eddiehart9734 3 года назад +12

    Sam make a rant on genji my boy needs a change

    • @Brohan97
      @Brohan97 3 года назад +5

      Genji was so much fun for that one week he was buffed :(

    • @ozone9691
      @ozone9691 3 года назад

      Genuinely needs some buff to his kit, I think making blade do 150 per slash but nano doesnt affect it/ mercy pocket. Also could buff his cooldowns so he can engage faster and win duels. Remember the april fools patch where getting elims gave back both abilities, could work

    • @ryanfeezy5512
      @ryanfeezy5512 3 года назад +3

      The amount of skill and knowledge that is needed to play genji to get any value is extremely high. The only op thing he has is nano blade if he even gets nano'ed. I also would wanna see a buff where he pulls out his blade faster and also make his deflect more reliable.

    • @devanteembreybanks424
      @devanteembreybanks424 3 года назад

      @@ryanfeezy5512 nano blade is far from op, there are soooooooo many counters to it. From speed, to cc, to normal abilities, to ults, to just movement.

  • @gengarboi8745
    @gengarboi8745 3 года назад +12

    I'm interested about how you think Sigma should be changed so he can't shoot and shield at the same time. Wouldn't he just be a worse and less fun Rein at that point? I've always enjoyed playing Sigma more than Reinhardt because just being able to do more than shield until you get close to the enemy feels more engaging and less like you're just a punching bag.

    • @ozone9691
      @ozone9691 3 года назад +5

      I honestly just think reduce his dmg a little he does wayyyyy to much

    • @gengarboi8745
      @gengarboi8745 3 года назад

      @@ozone9691 His DPS is actually relatively low compared to the other tanks, but his damage stat gets racked up when you add in Accretion's burst damage and the fact that his Hyperspheres can technically damage multiple people at once.

    • @ozone9691
      @ozone9691 3 года назад

      @@gengarboi8745 i thought it was like 120 if both hit. Idk i think just make his dmg (and a lot of the tanks dmg) lower to fit TANK not dps

    • @jbark678
      @jbark678 3 года назад

      @@gengarboi8745 Other tanks don't have shield, damage absorption, and cc at relatively low cost/risk.

    • @gengarboi8745
      @gengarboi8745 3 года назад +2

      @@jbark678 I honestly think the thing that makes Sigma so unhealthy is how defensive his entire kit is. He's a tank that is most effective when taking little risks and it just isn't a healthy design for a tank.
      I'd be interested in seeing how Sigma would play if his Hyperspheres had less range but he had more health.

  • @matthewsarson6934
    @matthewsarson6934 3 года назад +1

    He isn't wrong. Considering the meta, the fact that tracer has a pick rate that high while nearly no one plays Genji and Doom, says a hell of a lot about the games balance. Tracer is just the best pick in every situation and thats stupid.

  • @FiveRegent
    @FiveRegent 3 года назад +1

    As a Hanzo main, I loved the April Fools patch for his Ult, I literally remember talking to my friend saying all he needs is a buff to the dragons speed, and the time for the arrow to transform into the dragons, I dont even care about the richoet for the storm arrows, his Ult needs that April fools patch to make his ult more valuable

    • @nelsontovars
      @nelsontovars 3 года назад

      Could you remember me what was his ult in that time? Please

    • @FiveRegent
      @FiveRegent 3 года назад

      @@nelsontovars this years April Fools patch

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад

      And bring back scatter- a former hanzo main

    • @FiveRegent
      @FiveRegent 3 года назад

      @@aaron30716 i unfortunately didn't get to use Scatter Arrow, I finally got the game after they removed it

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад

      @@FiveRegent you should look at gameplay it was soooooo fun

  • @gonzoshots4691
    @gonzoshots4691 3 года назад

    .ayo i was on your stream one time and said you were one of the biggest brains in the game and you said no, tbh i understand better my dude, heat of the moment can lower iq ahah. .but out of game, this is what i mean. .chipsa had such amazing points in this vod and you added really excellent points too. .hang in there my dude, your balance insight is enormous. .positive vibes.

  • @owPhreak
    @owPhreak 3 года назад +3

    Doom ult is just tracer recall.

  • @oscarcisneros7701
    @oscarcisneros7701 2 года назад

    LOL he literally said "I think double shield is around the corner, and that's really scary" 17:01 so funny

  • @kitezzz360
    @kitezzz360 3 года назад +6

    chipsa in a nutshell: basically every character I play is bad and ever character I can't play (hitscan) is OP

  • @kosmosfan01
    @kosmosfan01 3 года назад +2

    It's sad that an April Fool's remech is better than the Doom ult. It's weird when, depending on the meta, how noticeable certain problems with heroes becomes. It would be nice if every hero was viable but that's just not goinf to happen. Even if I hate DF sometimes, that ult needs to get tweak because I do die to it but I think a tip for Ana is to simply jump while running away and you'll get booped which is dumb.

  • @socialwizard
    @socialwizard 3 года назад +1

    They should just change Doomfist's ult into the thundercrash super from Destiny 2.

  • @vbnm193
    @vbnm193 3 года назад +2

    imagine if doom ult just made him into total mayhem doom. His cooldowns could just be quick for a little so its more skilled

    • @Goose1162
      @Goose1162 3 года назад

      Like genji

    • @WorldKeepsSpinnin
      @WorldKeepsSpinnin 3 года назад

      I think that would be to op but i think something around this type of idea but scaled down or changed alittle (Every kill he gets within 10-15 seconds of his ultimate resets all his cooldowns / makes them 1-2 seconds) would be great

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад

      No i wouldn't like trying to sleep that

  • @David-gp7qe
    @David-gp7qe 3 года назад +1

    It feels good hearing top doom players repeat the same points ive been making for months now, about doom. Down to a fucking T, landing on people with doom ult and healing them is beyond frustrating, no other dps ult is so worthless. Ive had other players tell me doom ult should be used as a repositioning tool and my blood begins to boil. In what universe does a dps ult have to be used in said manner, its just a recall that you have to farm, who thinks this is a good idea? Whens the last time a genji used his ult dash reset to escape to a health pack?

  • @arcangel1172
    @arcangel1172 3 года назад +1

    Was expecting a collab discussion. please make it happen.

  • @clashplaya8638
    @clashplaya8638 3 года назад +2

    The problem with doomfist’s ult is that it’s easy to use. You can place it literally anywhere on the map, so buffing it is impossible. There’s no real skill to the ult (unless it’s used for position) so you can’t make it better without making the hero broken.

    • @Goose1162
      @Goose1162 3 года назад

      Or completely change his ult

    • @stookla4942
      @stookla4942 3 года назад +2

      It's an ultimate, it's supposed to be fight changing.

    • @minteristic
      @minteristic 3 года назад

      I’m only low masters, but in my opinion I don’t think you understand what Sam and Chipsa was talking about.

    • @minteristic
      @minteristic 3 года назад

      How could the devs let a doomfist ultimate to have a much lower impact than some abilities such as Dvas remech , Bap’s Immortality, while none of these abilities are their ultimates.

    • @damienfuhrer6782
      @damienfuhrer6782 3 года назад

      Lol like most of the ults take zero skill but potential to wipe except for dooms

  • @notam7460
    @notam7460 2 года назад +1

    Genji should really get like 30/25 armour, two dash charges but nerfed to 30/40 dmg and deflect cooldown should be lowered to 4.5s. We just need these expiremental patches to serve as a testing phase for carzy ideas not just hitscan and dva buffs. Buff doom, genji and reaper and try hard nerfing brig, bap and dva - these changes aren't permanent, I just don't understand why blizzard is so hesitant

    • @orc3266
      @orc3266 2 года назад

      Because they afraid of doing that and instead they remove a tank and make some useless reworks, like Moira's new orb

  • @ahzmund6283
    @ahzmund6283 3 года назад

    At 15:10 you said genji’s damage has never been changed. I agree with your points, but wanted to point out that I believe it was increased from 27 to 28 damage per shuriken about a year ago.

  • @bruhmoment6493
    @bruhmoment6493 3 года назад +10

    Rework doom ult into something skillfull like dragon blade.

    • @Goose1162
      @Goose1162 3 года назад +2

      I would love this. If we could just unleash a fury of fists with dooms ult and get it back off cool down if we get a kill

    • @fadew55
      @fadew55 3 года назад

      Seriously, imagine the potential. Theyve already created I think the most fun and unique character in the history of gaming to play. So why not go further and make his ult another crazy cool and fun and mechanically intensive ults and just make it impossible to break this record for years to come

  • @FjpTheDon
    @FjpTheDon 3 года назад +6

    They really gave a healer a shield, AOE healing, targeted healing, a cc, AND a boop 😐

    • @benschurman8607
      @benschurman8607 3 года назад +2

      can’t forget the self healing!

    • @xblur17
      @xblur17 3 года назад +3

      200hp shield, aoe healing only when they’re brawling in melee range that is barely more than Cart healing, 3 healing packs on a long cooldown, and CC because it’s a melee hero with 0 range

    • @gttm9805
      @gttm9805 3 года назад

      @@xblur17 look at her pick rate. Brig is broken fundamentally

    • @lyllylove_1
      @lyllylove_1 3 года назад +1

      @@gttm9805 you know the overwatch league doesn't work in the same way the normal ranked right????

    • @yellowtunes2756
      @yellowtunes2756 3 года назад

      @@gttm9805 brig is literally the hardest hero in the game. There's a reason why she always had lowest pickrate below masters, cos 99% of the community don't understand this game enough to play her consistently. That's why she is so popular in owl, cos people here can make your work in any comp, because yes, she can do basically everything if you have brain big enough

  • @leolee9287
    @leolee9287 3 года назад

    that additional damage per player in doom ult might honestly be a very good idea for buff

  • @ukiyo1371
    @ukiyo1371 3 года назад +1

    That small little rant about how Genji desperately needs some type of change so he doesn’t get left in the dust by overbuffed dlc heroes was absolutely perfect

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад

      But don't buff genji just balance and fix the game. One problem is genji's no fall of damge its so annoying fighting a good aim genji

    • @Kadou1
      @Kadou1 3 года назад

      @@aaron30716 bro tell me one other person that is talking about how genji no fall off is op. I’m so confused what elo are you?

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад

      @@Kadou1 didn't say it's op said it was annoying

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад

      Plat 2900 around that or almost diamond can't remember and i usually play qp but i played comp over 100 hrs but i don't play it nearly as often but i'd say 25% of the time i'm on comp

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад

      And i play open q

  • @GodlikeJCMS
    @GodlikeJCMS 3 года назад +1

    Brandito put it well when he rants about a McCree every game. As someone who watches all the DFs main to learn new tech and stuff, it is a bit boring to see a McCree EVERY game.

  • @LordOfWaffles32
    @LordOfWaffles32 3 года назад +2

    Finally a video for it

  • @Follow_my_sp4ce_account
    @Follow_my_sp4ce_account 3 года назад +1

    Tracer her ult dosen t need a nerf its one of the highes skill ults un the game

    • @roguepossum9172
      @roguepossum9172 3 года назад

      He said it builds too fast and you need to actually get punished for missing. Currently if you miss pulse bomb you get it back in like 30 seconds so missing it isn’t that big of a deal. Overall the ult is fine you just get too little punishment for missing

    • @Follow_my_sp4ce_account
      @Follow_my_sp4ce_account 3 года назад

      @@roguepossum9172 i agree

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад

      Her ult is basically an ability which is ok

  • @connorrook9294
    @connorrook9294 3 года назад +1

    What if Doom ult left a crater or shattered ground or the like in the whole area of impact, that slows/burns targets?

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад

      Nah debuffs wouldn't be good

  • @Ohenheim
    @Ohenheim 3 года назад +2

    Yes. Make Genji great again, like dash 6 sec deflect too and 29 damage per hit, just by saying this i'm happy idk why...

    • @ozone9691
      @ozone9691 3 года назад +3

      Honestly fax, genji one of the hardest and most fun to play but you need to be one step ahead to beat mccree and stuff. Like you gotta be a diamond genji to beat a plat mccree which is ridiculously stupid

    • @joemamaisobama5788
      @joemamaisobama5788 3 года назад

      I think a 7 second deflect would be more balanced imo. 29 shurikens is a good change, ult charge stays nerfed, fire rate stays the same then genji might be half decent and not a nightmare to play against

  • @Cybrtronlazr
    @Cybrtronlazr 3 года назад

    I think if they are too lazy to rework some of doomfists kit and his ult, the least they could do is make it charge almost as fast as Tracer ult so he has more opportunities to get out of jail for free.

  • @cretacians
    @cretacians 3 года назад +2

    dva remech is literally better than doomfist ult it drives me absolutely fucking insane

    • @solvolysis
      @solvolysis 3 года назад

      i didnt know it was possible for a hero in overwatch to have TWO one shot ults. good job blizzard

  • @x4tfxChallenger
    @x4tfxChallenger 3 года назад

    The recent Doom buff is good, but still not the greatest. I propose that when Doom uses his ultimate, enemies should take damage from the launch. Like the incomprehensible damage circle that shows up right before you land. Dva has a similar ultimate already.

  • @SaveWaterG
    @SaveWaterG 3 года назад

    Glad you guys touched on gegu being terrible genji is a fun high skill gap character and he’s too easily countered/ can’t kill most targets and just is a feed pick. These high skill gap characters are weak while the I’m gonna bot out characters because they are too easy get more value than characters that take skill makes no sense to me.

  • @mvmusic3808
    @mvmusic3808 3 года назад +1

    I realized recently that to die less as doom all I have to do is stop using my ult like an ult, just use it as a get out of jail card, which sucks and is boring.... doom underpowered

  • @marcuspruitt2345
    @marcuspruitt2345 3 года назад +11

    My opinion on a doomfist "buff". His ultimate resets is cooldowns

    • @LillFillBeatbox
      @LillFillBeatbox 3 года назад +1

      I dont play doom at all but ive been thinking the same as you. And it would make sense. Like genji dashes up in the air, gets nanoed and uses ult, his deflect resets. Dooms abilities should reset on ult.

    • @LillFillBeatbox
      @LillFillBeatbox 3 года назад

      Sry not deflect. I ment dash***

    • @marcuspruitt2345
      @marcuspruitt2345 3 года назад +3

      @@LillFillBeatbox I play doom for fun in quick play but it ranked it seems he gets punished ALOT if you aren't paying attention to counters

    • @LordOfWaffles32
      @LordOfWaffles32 3 года назад +1

      It makes sense, but Doomfist is up in the air for 4 seconds and it takes an extra 1.5 seconds to land by then you should have your abilities back

    • @jptrady1997
      @jptrady1997 3 года назад

      @@LordOfWaffles32 yea but most of the time if ur going in with his ult ur not gonna be there for the full 4 sec maybe 2 or 3 if u wanna get a low hp target

  • @lloydfromfar
    @lloydfromfar 3 года назад +5

    This video sounded a lot like a DPS player complaining about Healers and Tanks...

    • @xblur17
      @xblur17 3 года назад

      Because it is

    • @devanteembreybanks424
      @devanteembreybanks424 3 года назад

      @@xblur17 benji. But at least the dps he is talking about is absolutely trash.

  • @brainbox9219
    @brainbox9219 3 года назад

    This video NEEDED to happen, thanks 👌🏾😎

  • @flyingturtle2920
    @flyingturtle2920 3 года назад +1

    Hi does anyone know if theres something wrong with samito shop i ordered a hoodie on rhe 30th of april and still didn’t get it yet, but i live in canada so idk if it would make difference

  • @huckmart2017
    @huckmart2017 3 года назад +7

    Im sorry, but i honestly just dont care. Doom is annoying enough to play against as it is. If doom was meta enough to play consistently i would probably stop playing the game.

    • @carrots6249
      @carrots6249 3 года назад +4

      every hero is annoying when your bad

    • @MexMX
      @MexMX 3 года назад

      I don't mind to lose some player that still can't counter a hero with thousands of counterplay. It's a healthy loss.

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад

      Agreed fuck doom

  • @migzyyy
    @migzyyy 3 года назад +1

    I also think doom pick rate is low in owl just because right now echo and reaper is just alot better for bursting

  • @angrychickengod3831
    @angrychickengod3831 3 года назад +3

    I like the idea of a hanzo rant, but mainly right now i want to see a genji rant

  • @DiGiTMerC
    @DiGiTMerC 3 года назад

    logically Dooms ult should be able to destroy Baps immortal field "lamp", if landing exactly on top of it.

  • @mayo0006
    @mayo0006 3 года назад

    I don't really understand how bap lamp is a problem with doom because you can uppercut bap out of lamp as long as he's not in a room with a low ceiling or against a wall

  • @GetOffGenji
    @GetOffGenji 3 года назад +1

    I get that it’s not abnormal for dps (especially doomfist) players to say brig is op, and in all honesty those comments were accurate and true for a very long time. However, I really don’t think she is problematic at the moment with the current meta. There are so many rein team comps which are really strong at the moment and in general she is really weak with rein. She is great with double bubble and sigma comps, but those comps don’t revolve around her meaning she isn’t a must pick. She is really useful in those situations due to her long range healing. I’ve also heard countless streamers and pros (such as Danteh for example), who say she isn’t a problem.

  • @happygoob2296
    @happygoob2296 3 года назад

    What If they added a slight pull torwards the center to doomfist ult no extra damage or speed like the black hole on apex once you lock in ur landing it pulls in just enough where u can fight the pull but if ur headed torwards the center u will be sped that direction

  • @Pip_07
    @Pip_07 3 года назад +1

    Hey sam can you do one of these on genji? i was just wondering because i feel like most of these points also apply to genji

  • @jonathanlange5769
    @jonathanlange5769 3 года назад

    The problem is heros being designed around a kill combo. (Hog, Doom and to some extend Genji)

  • @qbw1024
    @qbw1024 3 года назад +9

    Immortality field has to change to stop you from dying make it like soldiers biotic field but stronger

    • @ozone9691
      @ozone9691 3 года назад

      I was thinking of making it not counter ults but the cooldown is reduced. Makes it so u need an ult to counter an ult instead of an ability countering an ult

    • @killswitchOW
      @killswitchOW 3 года назад +4

      @@ozone9691 tbf, plenty of abilities "counter" ults. just depends how you use them

    • @lyllylove_1
      @lyllylove_1 3 года назад

      Then the name wouldn't make sense

    • @dmodk8010
      @dmodk8010 3 года назад

      Imor should’ve like 25 percent damage reduction maybe even 50 but at its current point it’s an ultimate on cool down

    • @aaron30716
      @aaron30716 3 года назад

      No

  • @Shidarmu
    @Shidarmu 3 года назад +3

    YOU HAVE 2 YIL

  • @SpookArk
    @SpookArk 3 года назад +6

    Yeah but neither of you are on fire therefore argument invalid

    • @-Hold_this
      @-Hold_this 3 года назад

      Kek

    • @SpookArk
      @SpookArk 3 года назад

      @MalakHimself I peaked 7900 so stfu

  • @Lethal210
    @Lethal210 3 года назад +1

    This is the very most thing I wished did not happen

  • @Adam-vf7el
    @Adam-vf7el 3 года назад

    If Genji is to compete he should really have more of a presence outside of blade

  • @fleshquilt
    @fleshquilt 3 года назад

    Love this kind of vid keep it up!

  • @aaronolson6736
    @aaronolson6736 3 года назад

    Sad truth of this is that they won't dare touch the heroes beyond simple buffs and nerfs because for some reason we need to throw the meta into a weird state of shock when OW2 launches. It's not like launching with 5-6 new heroes and a 5v5 team comp is enough, but a lot of current heroes will be reworked heavily.

  • @XBUGMANX
    @XBUGMANX 3 года назад

    genji needs that izanagi drop that can only be activated after dashing through a target. you have 1.5 seconds to use it after dashing through a target. This ability is unable to work on tanks. it's a skill shot: Hold melee: Genji grabs his enemy and jumps into the sky, and whirls both heroes down into the ground stunning the enemy for 1.2 seconds. how cool would that shit be. damage values would of course need to be worked out.