The reliability of BMW electronics, don't you just love them! Reminds me of 1970s Suzuki electronics. And yet BMW throw more and more electronics at all their bikes. I suppose they've got to give customers a reason to trade in once the warranty has expired!!!
Found the vid interesting, I know many folks love BMW GS's but reliability especially out of warranty would worry me especially as they keep adding more complex electronics.
I wonder if it would be good to slide a bit of heat shrink tubing over the servo buddy and connector as it looks a bit flimsy? Love the channel mate, and well done for "sticking it to the man"!!!
+FriendlyEllis thanks bud - yeah I thought that too, it just seemed to be too open to the elements doesn’t it. However, I filmed this last August so it’s been fitted to the bike for around 8 months now and been ridden practically every day in all weathers - still going strong and no issues at all.👍
great video - I don't intend to change the standard exhaust but intend to take out the clakka clakka valve (that's what they sound like on tick over!) so I will need on of these puppies as well - Ta for the info!
I have the same question. Is the (standard) exhaust flap left in the open or closed position when the servo is removed? Does it it matter? I've not had this issue on my GS so far but interested in this fix... potentially for the future
And all done without a single cuss word or thrown spanner😂 well done sir! Good vid Bruce. I’ll ask the obvious one…what happens come mot time? I understand the the uk is falling into line with Brussels on M&U Regs forbidding tinkering with fuel or exhaust gas controls.
@@teapotone 👍Me neither, and I've written to my MP outlining why they shouldn't vote the white paper outlining this new bill through parliament. Can you imagine the number of bikes knocking around with aftermarket pipes or deleted exup valves, let alone classics for which no "oem" parts are available? Crazy. Good to know there's a solution that works at last for the flapper valve.
Well get you! Mr Bike mechanic now! ;-) Great video and good to see that something so simple cures the problem, as thats not usually the way with BMW... Hope you and the Mrs are keeping healthy, all the best.
+Alpine Larfs was filmed last August 😬 However, Helga has just been professionally cleaned as I’ve just fitted the new SupremeCoat ‘Lifeproof’ paint protection system. Vid coming soon’ish 😉👍
Bruce out with the spanners and in his own garage 🤔 Nice easy fix and a bit of weight saving on the bike. I replaced my FZ1 exhaust system last year (Andy Man Cam can’t ze Germans don’t like it) for a full Delkevic system. Left the motor but removed the cables that go down through the bike otherwise it errors. Will check to see if they do something similar for the FZ1
Ha Ha yep times are a changing when I end up in the garage with a spanner in my hand! 🤔😂 Hope you find one for your bike, they’re REALLY simple to fit 👍
You pointed the right position for the exhaust flap, the added arrow poit at the lambda! BTW i see you have the single best mod for the GS... the Mudsling!
You managed to do it , well done you no mates to assist you you will have your own in the garage series soon Bruce maybe with how to do off road . 😂😂 maybe not hey lol well don you 👍👍👍👍👍
Yes but not obscenely loud. I could pass the static noise test for Trackdays, but I did trigger the trackside noise meters a few times at Bedford Autodrome 😬
+The GorillaBiker Ha Ha yeah I know, they must spend so long designing all this stuff to get optimal performance whilst staying within all the various EU laws - then we come along and just rip it out, bypass stuff, and play away 😂👍
+John Morris no not yet John - I still haven’t fitted the new INNOVV K2 camera system yet - I’m literally constantly editing at the moment 7 days a week, but when I clear the decks a bit I’ll get it done 👍
I’d replaced the oem exhaust with a full Akra system, the valve is left open. No issues at all with performance, the bike ride beautifully - I miss it!
Great video. Can I ask about MOT. You mentioned you need it for MOT purposes. If I do exactly as you have done on a standard fitting exhaust, do you know if that's an MOT issue? I ask because a sticking valve causes am an engine controller failure warning on the TFT and it's a pain in the A... Thanks for any help and advice from anyone. Cheers, Mark
My understanding for here in the Uk is that they won’t actually check for the ‘flapper valve’. They’ll check to see if the end can is road legal but not the internals.
you have just committed the ultimate sin!!!! snipping ty-wraps with side cutters. It leaves a razor edge to cut you. trim flush with a knife fella. helicopter engineer and I get bit all the time by this!! Pet hate mate. Having worked with the police for many years. I'm of the opinion that if you lock a bobby in a cell with 2 cannon balls over night. By morning he will have lost one and broke the other. I wish you well as you step into the engineering world pal. I had the valve fail on my 2010 multistrada. I fitted one of these and the difference to the bike was amazing. so much smoother. However shortly after all the computers on the bike died. luckily Ducati were amazing and sorted it out of warranty.
Its an old problem from the 1200 days caused by poor design that should have been resolved years ago and I believe its only there for the EU emissions regulations when on tick over.Some riders use a high temp grease on the exhaust flap bearings but it still goes eventually.
You actually get this issue with just about every single bike out there which has an exhaust/butterfly vale and is ridden in all weathers. As you say Andi, it’s a poor design of locating this part generally at one of the lowest points of the bike, right down near all the crap coming up of the road etc. Yep it’s there for emissions standards, and lubing/greasing the valve/flap intermittently can aid the issue👍
Hi again mate. My question from a while back regarding what the servo does, was worded stupidly. And now that i am the proud owner of a 1250 (which has the servo installed), i am still confused by its purpose. Do you know if it is solely related to engine braking ability... or is it blended in to the shift cam system, allowing more exhaust under variable valve depression? The fact you have this on the 1200 engine, makes me think it is all about volume and engine braking... ??? If you dont know... no harm. I will just ask the blokes i bought her from :)
I don’t know the full technicalities of it - my understanding is it’s mainly for emissions purposes and as such by removing it you release more of the potential of the engine.
A exhaust servo serves a few purposes, it makes the bike quieter at lower rpm and increases midrange torque. It also increases back pressure and richens the engine in the mid range to reduce emissions. The reason most exhaust manufacturers do away with a servo on their systems is because in most cases this also reduces high end horse power due to the restriction in the exhaust. Hope this helps 👍🏼
+Gordy's Goodworks no not in either way to be honest - the bike just breathes better, the throttling feels ‘spicier’ and more dynamic - that may just be because the bike sounds amazing now so you automatically feel like it’s better. I’ve also had both my GS’s taken to Hilltop and Geoff has worked his magic on them, so they’re certainly more of an animal to a stock GS. It’s noticeable to go from a stock GS straight into this one 👍
+FUBARadventure I had the exhaust fitted by the dealership before I even collected the bike. I’ve had full Akra systems on both my GS’s and it’s never been an issue on any warranty work at all👍
+Highland Riders Motovlogs I’ve no idea bud, they looked almost identical from what I remember when looking into which one to buy (I filmed this last August) 👍
It's amazing how many people can't deal with the exhaust regulator. They really think it's a bad thing and hacking it will gain them a better life. HaHa
Great stuff Bruce , most plod have the technical ability of a penguin and can only spray wd40 at everything and usually get that wrong and spray themselves 😂😂😂. Good vid keep it up
I have no idea why I watched that, I don’t even have a GS 😂. Still found it interesting, cheers Bruce 👍
+Bagsy Ha Ha now that’s loyalty right there Bagsy! Thanks very much, the process is pretty much the same for every bike really 👍
Same!!
same here...but enjoyed it...might be the friendly Scot accent...
The reliability of BMW electronics, don't you just love them! Reminds me of 1970s Suzuki electronics.
And yet BMW throw more and more electronics at all their bikes. I suppose they've got to give customers a reason to trade in once the warranty has expired!!!
I enjoyed the bloopers as I've been there myself many times. It should be easy, but it's not. Stay safe.
Thanks for this helpful video! I'm planning on a complete exhaust system on my 1250 RS and this ought to be very similar to the GS, again thanks!
I just heard that noise on my and found your video...!!! Great help... thanks...!!!
Found the vid interesting, I know many folks love BMW GS's but reliability especially out of warranty would worry me especially as they keep adding more complex electronics.
I wonder if it would be good to slide a bit of heat shrink tubing over the servo buddy and connector as it looks a bit flimsy?
Love the channel mate, and well done for "sticking it to the man"!!!
+FriendlyEllis thanks bud - yeah I thought that too, it just seemed to be too open to the elements doesn’t it.
However, I filmed this last August so it’s been fitted to the bike for around 8 months now and been ridden practically every day in all weathers - still going strong and no issues at all.👍
great video - I don't intend to change the standard exhaust but intend to take out the clakka clakka valve (that's what they sound like on tick over!) so I will need on of these puppies as well - Ta for the info!
I have the same question. Is the (standard) exhaust flap left in the open or closed position when the servo is removed? Does it it matter? I've not had this issue on my GS so far but interested in this fix... potentially for the future
@@alanhall7213 just start the bike and see for Yourself. Try both positions. Exhaust will be noticeably louder in an open position.
And all done without a single cuss word or thrown spanner😂 well done sir! Good vid Bruce. I’ll ask the obvious one…what happens come mot time? I understand the the uk is falling into line with Brussels on M&U Regs forbidding tinkering with fuel or exhaust gas controls.
To my knowledge, I’ve not had a bike be tested for emissions in an mot AS YET. Certainly not had one fail for it 🤷♂️
@@teapotone 👍Me neither, and I've written to my MP outlining why they shouldn't vote the white paper outlining this new bill through parliament. Can you imagine the number of bikes knocking around with aftermarket pipes or deleted exup valves, let alone classics for which no "oem" parts are available? Crazy. Good to know there's a solution that works at last for the flapper valve.
Well get you! Mr Bike mechanic now! ;-) Great video and good to see that something so simple cures the problem, as thats not usually the way with BMW... Hope you and the Mrs are keeping healthy, all the best.
+Scott C Cheers Scott, yeah I’m practically a fully fledged BMW technician now really 😎😉
@@teapotone wot u can work a laptop whilst dunking hobnobs. I will be straight round for a service
Helge is looking very clean - you really have been bored during the lockdown!
+Alpine Larfs was filmed last August 😬
However, Helga has just been professionally cleaned as I’ve just fitted the new SupremeCoat ‘Lifeproof’ paint protection system.
Vid coming soon’ish 😉👍
Bruce out with the spanners and in his own garage 🤔 Nice easy fix and a bit of weight saving on the bike.
I replaced my FZ1 exhaust system last year (Andy Man Cam can’t ze Germans don’t like it) for a full Delkevic system. Left the motor but removed the cables that go down through the bike otherwise it errors. Will check to see if they do something similar for the FZ1
Ha Ha yep times are a changing when I end up in the garage with a spanner in my hand! 🤔😂
Hope you find one for your bike, they’re REALLY simple to fit 👍
There are way cheaper options for FZ1 actually 😉 Check eBay for that.
Romas Quicker Did the Helltech option great reviews and nearly 1/2 a kilo weight save
Hi Bruce I have had one fitted to my gsa for the last 50k miles worked well bike now 93k miles
Short, simple & to the point vid. That noise would've done my head in!! Nice one Bruce mate. Awrabesht, Al. 😉🏴👍
+Alan Bell Cheers Al 👍
Nice 1 Bruce
Hi Bruce, Lockdown songs with Richy coming up lol. Hope you're well, cheers.
All good thanks Dave, and you bud 👍
Yes all well thanks, thanks for providing such great Vlogs to keep us entertained in these strange days.
You pointed the right position for the exhaust flap, the added arrow poit at the lambda! BTW i see you have the single best mod for the GS... the Mudsling!
+Diego Cella it’s great isn’t it! Got the extender fender for the front too 👍
it aint too shabby for a bike that never gets cleaned :D You should show us that van too at some point. Looks fantastic!
+Ove Sandve from what I remember (this was filmed last August) I’d recently cleaned her for something.
The Van is my wife’s pride and joy 👍
Not sure we needed to hear the noise so long Bruce. 😉
I just love this color. Wish the new 1250 comes in this color
+Shahir Showkath Ali thanks Shahir, I actually prefer the new HP colours in the new 1250 GS. Wish I could afford the upgrade! 🤞🙏😉
Educated me there Bruce, cheers. By the way love the Kombi. 👍😷🏍🇦🇺
+Russell Locke Thanks Russell, yeah the camper is my wife’s - T2 Brazilian import, she’s called ‘Irene’ 😉👍
teapotone my one was called Molly. 😬👍🏻
Looks a good bit of kit, will be interested to see an update in due course.
+Bicester Bob ta Rob, this was filmed last August bud and I’ve not had a single issue 👍
@@teapotone Cheers mate, something to consider, when my servo gives up the ghost.
Aanndd........another top video, from a top bloke! Nice one Bruce, enjoyed that, even though I too, don't own a GS!
Be safe, Grumps.
+Grumps Rides Ha Ha, well it’s great to see how many loyal subscribers are on this channel! Thanks very much Grumps for enduring the vid 🙏👍
Well done Bruce, loved the out takes 👍
+Tony Collins cheers Tony 👍
Good informative video but should have had better lighting of the removal of the part. It was very dark and not easily visible
Bloopers were the best part. Lol
Get you getting the spanner’s out, you will be doing a garage build next like LCR 😂. Interesting video 👍
+simon robinson Ha Ha, believe it or not I’ve thought about it 😂👍
Do it, would be interesting
Brilliant. So helpful, cheers pal
No bother 👍
Love that Tee...
Ha Ha, my Mrs hates it! 😂👍
Good vid pal, i do like the outtakes at the end. should be new now at the end off ya vids mate
+big mac it often is bud 😉
@@teapotone That not what i want to hear m8, i want it all the time haha 🤣🤣 Take care m8
Where did you get the t shirt bruce? 😂 thats the best t shirt iv seen 😂
I’d just wack it with a bit of timber until it stopped making the clicky noise, mind you I own a Guzzi and most things are fixable with a hammer
😂👏👏👍
You managed to do it , well done you no mates to assist you you will have your own in the garage series soon Bruce maybe with how to do off road . 😂😂 maybe not hey lol well don you 👍👍👍👍👍
+Dale Hawkes you know what Dale, I just might, watch this space 😉👍
Great vid. Am removing mine due to the exhaust flap being stuck open and will get this. Any brucy bonus discount codes?
No sorry bud, I just bought it after a google search myself 🤷♂️👍
Thank you 👍 Is it much louder after you ditched the catalytic converter and exhaust valve?
Yes but not obscenely loud. I could pass the static noise test for Trackdays, but I did trigger the trackside noise meters a few times at Bedford Autodrome 😬
@@teapotone Shit, I was going to get rid of the cat and the valve to make it breathe better, but the noise level is what holds me back 🤷♂️
@@Elskins sounds like a plan
I'd be interested to see what's inside the servo housing.....
Voice of an angel Bruce ..... a hell’s angel. 😏
Hahaha god damn that noise is infuriating :D I wonder do the folks who designed all this stuff cry when they see us remove them haha.
+The GorillaBiker Ha Ha yeah I know, they must spend so long designing all this stuff to get optimal performance whilst staying within all the various EU laws - then we come along and just rip it out, bypass stuff, and play away 😂👍
@@teapotone haha exactly 😂 as an engineer myself I would say its soul destroying 😂
You made it look easy.....Did you ever release the second video on the canbus accessory thingy you put under the back seat?
+John Morris no not yet John - I still haven’t fitted the new INNOVV K2 camera system yet - I’m literally constantly editing at the moment 7 days a week, but when I clear the decks a bit I’ll get it done 👍
Why not removing the flapper too???
You wouldn’t get that problem with a ktm 🤣 likening the garage vids mate more to come ?
Nice campervan. A video of you starting it up would be cool. Tourdecampervan.
Thumbs up and yours was a dirty one. Good and simple fix. Well done. Live is a little easier. Cheers TPO
+Davyd Thomas my pleasure bud 👍🏾
Hi what drone do you use when out on the bike and any advice
You mentioned MOT, does removing the valve affect the test ?. Thanks.
Bruce any issue with performance, did u wire the valve open or left it flapping loose
I’d replaced the oem exhaust with a full Akra system, the valve is left open.
No issues at all with performance, the bike ride beautifully - I miss it!
@@teapotone my exup is failing and its more cost effective to put a full system on, would you still use the electronic shunt
steve
Yes you’ll need it if you get an error code when you put on the full system
@@teapotone thanks Bruce
Great video. Can I ask about MOT. You mentioned you need it for MOT purposes. If I do exactly as you have done on a standard fitting exhaust, do you know if that's an MOT issue? I ask because a sticking valve causes am an engine controller failure warning on the TFT and it's a pain in the A... Thanks for any help and advice from anyone. Cheers, Mark
My understanding for here in the Uk is that they won’t actually check for the ‘flapper valve’. They’ll check to see if the end can is road legal but not the internals.
@@teapotone Thank Bruce. I'm going to follow your vid and do the same mod as you. You're a Star :) Cheers, Mark
Now for the really important question. Where do you get one in the UK? A Google search came up with only suppliers in the US.
Thanks 🙏
+john samson-snell there’s a link in the description bud, I used www.speedycom.co.uk
@@teapotone Brillant! The price is also good so I have ordered one. Thanks John
You can also try eBay. Plenty of UK sellers there.
Can you do a video on what’s in my garage?
God these bikes are so bloody complicated ! I off road a fair bit so bought a Yamaha T7, just to get away from all these bloody electronics 🙄
Can you use that servo buddy for the stock exhaust system as well?
Of course! Just leave the valve in an open position.
you have just committed the ultimate sin!!!! snipping ty-wraps with side cutters. It leaves a razor edge to cut you. trim flush with a knife fella. helicopter engineer and I get bit all the time by this!! Pet hate mate. Having worked with the police for many years. I'm of the opinion that if you lock a bobby in a cell with 2 cannon balls over night. By morning he will have lost one and broke the other. I wish you well as you step into the engineering world pal.
I had the valve fail on my 2010 multistrada. I fitted one of these and the difference to the bike was amazing. so much smoother. However shortly after all the computers on the bike died. luckily Ducati were amazing and sorted it out of warranty.
Ha Ha, Gareth you’ve summed up Coppers to a tee there bud 😂
Cheers for the tip on the cutters - seen and noted👍
Its an old problem from the 1200 days caused by poor design that should have been resolved years ago and I believe its only there for the EU emissions regulations when on tick over.Some riders use a high temp grease on the exhaust flap bearings but it still goes eventually.
You actually get this issue with just about every single bike out there which has an exhaust/butterfly vale and is ridden in all weathers.
As you say Andi, it’s a poor design of locating this part generally at one of the lowest points of the bike, right down near all the crap coming up of the road etc.
Yep it’s there for emissions standards, and lubing/greasing the valve/flap intermittently can aid the issue👍
Interesting but can you use a light next time please 😁
+douglas gordon Yep got some big lights now - this was filmed last August, sorry 😬🤦♂️👍
Hi again mate. My question from a while back regarding what the servo does, was worded stupidly. And now that i am the proud owner of a 1250 (which has the servo installed), i am still confused by its purpose. Do you know if it is solely related to engine braking ability... or is it blended in to the shift cam system, allowing more exhaust under variable valve depression? The fact you have this on the 1200 engine, makes me think it is all about volume and engine braking... ??? If you dont know... no harm. I will just ask the blokes i bought her from :)
I don’t know the full technicalities of it - my understanding is it’s mainly for emissions purposes and as such by removing it you release more of the potential of the engine.
A exhaust servo serves a few purposes, it makes the bike quieter at lower rpm and increases midrange torque. It also increases back pressure and richens the engine in the mid range to reduce emissions.
The reason most exhaust manufacturers do away with a servo on their systems is because in most cases this also reduces high end horse power due to the restriction in the exhaust.
Hope this helps 👍🏼
@@oOLLOYDOSOo Dyno charts show it doesn't increase torque in any circumstances. Its a myth. Its purpose is solely for sound emissions.
@@oOLLOYDOSOo All it does is makes the bike quieter at certain times. No more.
After installing the decat headers did you notice a change in fuel economy?
+Gordy's Goodworks no not in either way to be honest - the bike just breathes better, the throttling feels ‘spicier’ and more dynamic - that may just be because the bike sounds amazing now so you automatically feel like it’s better.
I’ve also had both my GS’s taken to Hilltop and Geoff has worked his magic on them, so they’re certainly more of an animal to a stock GS. It’s noticeable to go from a stock GS straight into this one 👍
Where did you get the servo buddy from Bruce? Could you add a link please
+carlos longueira just added it now Carlos in the description.
I bought it online from www.speedycom.co.uk
Hi Bruce, what’s the score with your warranty now you’ve fitted that exhaust??
+FUBARadventure I had the exhaust fitted by the dealership before I even collected the bike. I’ve had full Akra systems on both my GS’s and it’s never been an issue on any warranty work at all👍
Hi Bruce now you have left the plod are you planning on moving back to Scotland?
+Allan Bray in the future yes, we’d love to move up there. But for now my wife is still in the met police so we’ll stay down here for the time being
Much difference apart from brand name from the Healtec one?
+Highland Riders Motovlogs I’ve no idea bud, they looked almost identical from what I remember when looking into which one to buy (I filmed this last August) 👍
@@teapotone Ah I see dude. Yeah they look quite similar to be fair.
They all work the same, there is no difference.
Where can I order?
Can it be used with a 2016 BMW r1200 gs with a full system exhaust?
It's amazing how many people can't deal with the exhaust regulator. They really think it's a bad thing and hacking it will gain them a better life. HaHa
No, it’s purely because my exhaust didn’t use the flapper valve so the bike threw up an error code - and this gadget gets rid of that
You're right. Noise is so irritating couldn't hear you talk 🤣
Gee,I thought it was normal for all GS’s to make that noise🥴
+Gerry Powell 😂
Great stuff Bruce , most plod have the technical ability of a penguin and can only spray wd40 at everything and usually get that wrong and spray themselves 😂😂😂. Good vid keep it up
+skippy 8it I was told that if I hit it, then I wouldn’t get my new crayons to play with after 😉😂👍
@@teapotone 😂😂😂
hardware solution to a software problem, crazy.
Mate, you seriously need a light, even a torch if you're going to talk about shit in the shadows. Just a thought.
So if i install this is the valve always open?