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ADCC 2011 Rousimar Palhares vs David Avellan - Heel hook restart
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2011
- What do you think of this restart?
From the 2011 ADCC world championships, Rousimar 'Toquinho' Palhares vs David Avellan. A somewhat controversial restart.
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What a crazy competitor Avellan is agreeing to a heel hook restart. I'd rather lose with my knee in one piece
😂😂😂
100%
Sure
Why the fuck would anyone want to restart with Palhares from that position?
Or even agree to it.
Or not have a drug test before the match.
Ref was stupid to restart in the middle of a deep submission. David was stupid for asking for a restart after he tapped, and in the same position. That was a trainwreck.
That's what I thought at first, but on review they were rolling out of bounds, so it appears ref then called stop. As to Avellan going with the restart, that's his call with the hook that deep, since he could have forfeited and lived to fight another day, but being the competitor he gave it a go.
Stupid effen decision on Avellan's behalf. I'm sure he became a much smarter man just after that!
Best answer.
Holy fuck you would have to be insane to restart in that position with Toquinho. Brutal.
Toquinho is a true gentlemen. After the fight he buys his opponent a drink & apologizes, he then gives them back their leg.
Murilo's face explaining to Toquinho they're going to restart in the heelhook position is priceless. He already knows it's a stupid thing to do.
my old coach is a brazilian who trained at btt in rio and said that palhares is friendly but just really uneducated and not all there in the head. he said that many times when he would see rousimar for the first time in a long time, rousimar would get all happy and hug him so tight that it felt like rousimar was breaking his ribs. my coach said that he just doesnt know his own strength and u have to be careful when hugging him because he'll squueze the hell outa u.
He is steroids incarnate.
@@mitchjames9350 he was working at plantations and farms since early age, woke up at 4 in the morning and worked for 12 hours every day, then started practicing bjj AFTER work on top of it. Dude is a monster, i doubt that's even steroids. If you look at him now, when he is way past his prime and all the ufc competition thing, he still has the physique, unlike actual heavy roiders.
@@user-ne2zx3nd2kwhere can I watch his story ?
ruclips.net/video/n7mQ_-l7JQM/видео.html
@@crazypato3752
@@crazypato3752he told in a Brazilian Podcast called Connect Cast, I don’t know if there is a subtitled version of it
You can blame the referee, but David Avellan agreed to restarting in that position, shouldn't have even gone with it. Palhares obviously made a point with that submission.
3.31 look at the torque of his leg the leg is not supposed to bend that was , his knee looked like it could have popped right there
yeah this is not on palhares at all , these guys need to learn how prevent and defend against these leglocks , its on them ,not rousimar, skilled leglock guy is palhares, I will give him that
3.34 hes not even tapping , even when palhares is literally snapping his leg in two
its not the restart rousimar could have gotten that leg lock at anytime he chose , quit making excuses, these guys have to specifically train to prevent palhares from locking in these knee bars
@@thegreat1009 Avellan turned but didn't escape the danger zone wit his knee line, kneebared, great transition from heel to kneebar from Palhares.
2:11 - Touquinho tried to compliment, but actually smashed the guy's neck. That's how ogre he is
Alex Khouri He looks so childish too, like a kid who doesn't know what he's done wrong. It's adorable.
Alex Khouri Toquinho is a Jerk, look at the last fight
GB Dawson WHF avellan is a guy who doesn't want to accept the result of the game. palhares did exactly what avellan wants, the clear finish. otherwise he must be keep complaining about game even the game was certainly his defeat.
+Alex Khouri This had me lolling. 'Ogre'. Haha very good, you win
It's done on purpose. It's called "catimba".
Lol 3:39 even when he goes to hug his corner man he whips his arms through
Manly man
If I had to let Paul Harris restart with a heel hook sunk in that deep followed by ready,set, go.....I would just forfeit the match. If he's got you sunk in, say goodbye to your tendons and bones man. Not sure why David opted for the restart instead of just calling it a day.
+Joseph Phillips Wtf is Paul Harris?
+Strype13 You never heard people call him Paul Harris? It's a running joke on a lot of MMA Forums. I guess Palhares is pronounced Paul Harris if you say it with the Brazilian accent.
+Joseph Phillips exactly the opposite, that's how Goldie, Rogan and most English speakers pronounce it. In Brazil it sounds like Pah-lee-ah-res said quickly
+Joseph Phillips Exactly, that guy was a moron to start that match.
Is not impossible to escape that if you pull and turn ok... you have a chance... or you may involve the other leg too for leverage... not easy against a guy like palhares... palhares used too much power too fast... he is a dick... he got it... no need to hurt the other competitor.
2:11 the guy is so feared and disliked in combat sports he can't even give hugs lol
Not feared, just disliked, dirty, and pathetic
Avellan tapped verbally, backpedalled and asked for a restart from the same position, what did you think he was expecting? As soon as the action resumed, he immediately tried to escape and Palhares immediately tried to sink the sub in.
I think I heard my ACL cry at two minutes in.
Imagine agreeing to restart in a heel hook with one of the best leg lockers in the world. It's literally shooting yourself in the foot.
I don't think you know the meaning of literally....
More like shooting yourself in the knee
@@GrainMuncherlol
Another fun fact: Avellan chose to continue fighting, when it's actually frequently advised to give up after a reset is prompted while a dangerous submission is locked in.
Who's watching this after Joe Rogan Podcast with Craig Jones?
I remember watching this live and thinking...."Damn man...tap when the ref says go!!"
It’s not like he would’ve let go right away Paul Harris is notorious for holding submissions too long
Dude should of not been willing to that restart
Palhares is crazy or evil....there is something no quite right about him.....
James Bond
I disagree, if he's smart enough to get a BJJ blackbelt, he's smart enough to let go when his opponent taps...
yeah ... why is that?
please do....ask me again....
awwww....only if you bring your smelly mum...
He's not dumb, he's just misunderstood..
Probably not the best idea the ref and the opponent ever had...
this is the one fight in history where toquinho actually looked like the more likable guy
Difícil encarar o Toquinho, reiniciar a luta nessa posição foi pedir para estourar o joelho.
Foi uma das coisas mais idiotas q jah vi em uma luta !!!
@BJJ & SURF seu leigo ele nuca quebrou perna de ninguém
O cara é muito forte,o que vejo é um monte de lutador que usa do "hostorico" dele no UFC pra ficar querer ganhar luta no grito,ou no choro...
@@narrandobscuro pô man, da pra ver direitinho ali o joelho do maluco dobrando ao contrário. Ele certamente saiu do tatame direto pra sala de cirurgia
Although Palhares should have let go sooner the first time, he still followed the rules. As for Avellan, it's hard to except that you should throw in the towel at a restart. It's hard to see everything you worked hard for end up being thrown away if you throw in the towel. As bad as it was, I probably would have done the same as Avellan - confidence and heart can get mixed up a little with your pride. So it goes.
Toquinho com sua humildade me deu orgulho de ser brasileiro!!! Esse é o verdadeiro lutador de artes marciais!!
I really think Palhares has some sort of mental illness, lol
its called downs
100%
Yeah, he's a warrior and he likes to take his enemies out of the fight.
Seriously. Always some type of drama when he’s rolling!
He’s just closer to human nature than his opponents are.
Imagine what would happen if this guy were to go to prison and dudes try to pick a fight with him... Palhares would be feared by everyone.
Chazton Wahilani hahaha Palhares should make themr all fear him and Palhares would not hesitate to make them disabled by those leglocks.
thing is he wouldnt be fighting 1 guy at a time, 10 big ass dudes would have their way with him, plus shanks kinda change the way the fights go.
they will stab him to death on his sleep lol
he would probably be too stupid to survive a prison. He can't handle himself.
They got something for that.
@ottl2 The ref stopped it before he tapped the first time so that didn't count.
maluco, o toquinho já tava com a finalização armada! não tem como, se ele marcar a finalização, ainda mais de perna, chora neguinho, teu joelho/pé vai pro saco! Toquinho é foda demais!
if neandertals could jujutsu and try to be frendly you would get this guy first in the line.
For the first time, Paul Harris was right here. Avellan put himself through this. Rather lose ego than torn ligaments.
Not gonna lie, that transition from topside turtle to single leg x by Palhares was impressive.
é o mesmo que botar o pé na boca de um jacaré.
Kkkkkkkkkk
lol this guy...
great fighter but terrible human being
It's really not his fault that his iq is in the 70's
YYOUUUU BITCHH
I dont see what Palhares did wrong. They both agreed to restart in a deep outside heel hook, of course he is going to crank it as soon as the ref says go. What was he supposed to do??
I feel bad for Palhares's sparring partners lol. Those are some brave, legless mother fuckers!
Humildade é outra coisa ,especialidade de Toquinho .
Olha aí num foi pior kkkkk as vezes é bom aceitar que perdeu 👏👏👏👏, toquinho é o cara
Kkkkkk respeita o toquinho doidao
@ArcticMushroom7 they rolled out of bounds and the ref said stop as Palhares was locking in the heel hook, but Pahlares didn't hear him or something and continued to apply the lock and start cranking while Avellan stopped defending. Palhares stopped and they restarted but Palhares already had the sub locked in and just cranked away.
Toquinho é foda, meu irmão. Antidesportista foi o outro lá, o tempo inteiro. Pagou o preço.
Sinistro Toquinho, é porque é um cavalo, mas uma lenda .
Palhares. Implanting fear into he's opponents by miscommunication, silent and awkward kindness lol.
That hug motion Palhares did was funny.
Some people here complain that Palhares cranks it hard & maliciously injures others. Well, no one is forcing anyone to roll with Palhares. If you don't want to get hurt, don't fight. Don't let pride & peer pressure get in the way of sound judgement. Palhares is an untamed beast, he fights to destroy!
lol where was Avellan's kimura lock? guess it didn't work
O melhor se tratando de chaves de pernas,leg lock,chave de tonocelo,etc... esse pode se dizer que vai longe!Meus parabens pela sua lutas nos tatames,octogonos e rings de todo mundo(Di Legg Pantera Negra Divinopolis-mg)
You are totally right, man. Palhares had a tough life, even for a brazillian. Working in constructions and farms since he was a child, forced him to be tough too. Otherwise, he is kind in his way...
So Pal bitch slapped dude and IMMEDIATELY acted as if it was a hug attempt, then continued to do so, then more after destroying dudes knee...ya that guy is mental.
Murilo Bustamante - A LEGEND
Avellan got what he deserved..this fight and the one against Dan Miller are the reason why Palhares doesn't let go submission before the intervention of the referee
sinisa vuco exactly
Y your right, he's actually a nice guy, I mean he was really sorry in the end
People calling him a nice guy must not know how he isn't welcome in a lot of gyms for hurting people.
Larry Medina thats pretty one sided you can see how he apologizes to people etc.
+Jan-Alexander Pelz breaks ur body, then like "ah man lets be friends" 5 seconds after lol. what a shithead.
they are in the same weight class? It says 88 kg but they do not look same or similar.
what a sportsman what a gentleman
Why would they agree to a restart? Did they expect the results to turn out any different? Personally I think heel hooks should be banned from competition
Not at all. The heel hook is one of the best and most effective submissions. its certainly the most effective joint lock. The ibjjf banning it is pathetic and it's watering down bjj. They should ban it at blue and white belt. but at purple and up it should be allowed.
fuck you soft bitches seriously are something else, lets ban Kimuras as well then fucking sissy.
Banning a submission because it's too effective? lmfao
They are in ibjjf not adcc where the competitors have balls between there legs.
esse toquinho eh phoda...
o cara simplesmente viu que a chave tava encaixada e ainda assim torceu ateh estourar o pé do cara
3:39 lol he even smacks his coach like that
Holding onto a heel hook knee bar is probably not the best precursor to wanting to hug someone and become friends.
There is no legitimate excuse for his behavior, when your opponent surrenders and taps you let go. It's simple humility and sportsmanship. I'm glad he's been cut from the UFC.
I disagree, the guy made a big stink about not having tapped and accepted a restart in that position; what did he think was going to happen? That Palhares was just going to go slow and let him out? At ADCC, with money on the line?
then just watch the kids division. I know sometimes palhares go out line when it comes to submission, especially in the ufc but I think he played fair and square in this one.
O Palhares e um ogro de forca descomunal, sua forma de demonstrar algo as vezes incompreendido devido a sua vitalidade que existe, quando foi cumprimentar o Avellan simplesmente poderia pegar a sua mao de forma respeitosa e abaixar a cabeca, mas quiz cumprimentar dando um abraco no pescoco do Avellan, kkk.
Chave de calcanhar só se defende aplicando outra no mesmo tempo em que o adversário ataca o calcanhar .,obs vai ganhar quem for mais rápido no ajuste .,caso perceba que não será mais rápido da os 3 tapinhas o mais rápido possível só vc pode sair sem traumas severos !!...
Rewatch the vid. The ref stops them when they go out of bounds and Avellan relaxes because they're getting restarted.
BUT THEN, Paul Harris starts cranking the heel hook again after the ref stops them for the restart, popping his knee. Look at Avellan's leg give out from under him because of Paul Harris cranking the Heel Hook after the ref called for the restart and had already put his hands on Paul Harris to stop him.
Por isso que sou fã do TOQUINHO, o cara é uma pessoa simples e humilde, e o zé mané chorão é um péssimo perdedor. Toquinho não deveria nem tentado consolar, mas prevaleceu a humildade! Mandou bem Toquinho! OSS
Rousimar Palhares is the Man, Respect of a true Martial Artist.
The guy claims he didnt tap, LOL the ref save you from injury !
ok lets restart..... crack !
That guy deserves the injury ! :)
he said he tapped but Pallhares kept cranking the hell hook
@@PandarenMaster well they teach me that I don't let go submission until referee says so,because sometimes referee can't see the tap.
He claimed the ref said stop and that Palhares kept going while out of bounds. If you're just a troll then disregard.
At 3.04 Murillo is like "well, go ahead and break his leg then I guess".
Palhares should be a scientist
Stop the video at 3:32 be scared
doug0110 nooooooo
I sometimes wonder how rousimar even learned such a complex thing like bjj the guy looks like he has some mental issues.
Go ask him that, i bet you will end up with some issues .........
Rener says that bjj is for everyone!
Funniest part of this is the Paul Harris' denied hug x8
I know Toquinho sometimes hold that sub for too long, but it was not the case this time. David asked for it, it was well deserved.
I definitely believe Palhares is misunderstood. He also Might have hearing problems. lol. Literally.
É desse jeito mesmo, na humildade, na moral e respeitando o adversário... Aí, se o cara bater e o juiz disser que não valeu... se o adversário não aceitar um respeitoso abraço... rsrs Não tem problema não, a gente vai pro chão e finaliza outra vez! Força Rousimar!!!
why did this get restarted? is that noise not his opponent tapping out during the kneebar
I agree, Spencer. See you soon, buddy.
In the first stop the sub was a heelhook, in the second stop the sub was a kneebar... they were not restarted in the same postion. The first stop was due to out of bounds, the ref started the stop, if Avellan was to get off the heelhook he would have to keep rolling further out of bounds. The referee is at fault, yet Palhares displayed "Conduct Unbecoming a Sportsman and a Gentleman" in three instances, first for not listening to the referee, second for not restarting in the same position , and third for purposely overextending the kneebar.
Lutador maldoso ! Se paga de santo ! Nunca representara o Brasil !
+Maromba LOL O cara que foi maldoso. Ele desistiu verbalmente, como se nada tivesse acontecido.
+Maromba LOL quando ele segura, toquinho é maldoso, quando solta rapidamente , o adversário fala que não bateu. vai entender...
+Felipe Pontes +Lucas Costa
Algum de vocês viu que o juiz interrompeu por que eles já estavam fora do tatame? Toquinho foi sujo, quebrou a perna do cara de propósito, desnecessário o que ele fez
@@fernandoeugeniofntfg7866 esse entende de jiu-jitsu mesmo, só disse asneiras, adversário sabia que ia dar merda se ele forçar a fuga, erro dele é não ter batido pra desistir a luta, acho que não ia sofrer a lesão se forçasse a fuga, jamais adversário irá soltar o golpe se o sujeito não desistiir a luta, azar dele.
Não entende nada de luta, se ele tivesse batido antes, nada teria acontecido, foi ele mesmo que causou a lesão, não adianta nada enquanto golpe está bem encaixado querendo dar fuga
Awsome heel hook!!! Love that one.
Hahahaha "no no no I was not attacking him I was hugging see?"
lol that is just sportsmanship right there dude.. I can clearly see that he just wants to hug his opponent
Did avellan ever did recover from this? Mental or bodywise?
de que adianta saber lutar e nao saber perder?????? campeão é aquele que supera a derrota< e aprende com ela....oss rosimar toquinho muito bom e escelente atleta, parabens!
Awesome physical power, sweet video
lol Avellan : " Man Should have just given him his hug"
Everyone cheers. Amazing.
@CPThustla88
I agree with you. Apparently Palhares hurt his knee for no reason after the ref said stop.
Incrível: venceu duas vezes na mesma luta ! E ainda de sobra, teve humildade: um vencedor nato, digno de aplausos !
Hey French fries.
Translate this: He popped his knee the first time because he kept squeezing after told to “STOP” and then he smacked him the neck that’s why he pushed him back trying to fake apologize. The second time he dislocated his knee. He’s a known cheater and steroid abuser. That’s why the UFCbanned him because he did the same to another fighter, he didn’t stop and broke another guys leg.
Are you referring to Alan Belcher or Restarting position? I agree you with on the rule and maybe they should alter it for high level tournaments such as ADCC but then momentum is against the attacking competitor? The first Metamoris event was submission only for 20mins. No submission no win until Metamoris 2 the rules slightly changed with a few judges and hopefully the outcome is to select a winner. It is what it is for ADCC until they change those rules ;)
What was he thinking asking for a restart. :o
2:25 Rousimar: "What I do??"
😂😂😂
David is My Friend and that Hurts Me Eternally
♾ 😞
@Shogunv2 and Mir plays by the rules and only breaks stuff when the guy he is fighting does not tap. Rousimar either ignores the tap, ignores the ref or stops in the middle of the fight for no reason.
If the ref asks you to restart with Paul Harris in the full heel hook position, you laugh and say "yeah except no" and you go home.
@dalhousie44 they reset the fight cause they fell outside of the square,the reason avellan is mad because when that happened, apparently avellan was waiting for the ref to reset them when palhares locked in a heel hook and torqued it.
Why would you restart from heel hook position when you know your opponent is porharis. Crazy it's like Dave is aking him to break his knee.
He should count his blessings Palhares is humble and respectful. Because Palhares could permanently cripple or kill him if he wanted to. Especially at how disrespectful he was to Palhares. Palhares not only one of the most technical guys out there but look how jacked he is. Damn. Technique AND strength? Scary combination.
If u look closely it actually looks like he finishes with the kneebar not the heelhook
yea thats stupid to do,did he expect to get out of heel hook of an pro fighter who has this move as hes spesialit,was stupid to try to turn the other way,almost broke hes leg
Almost?
he turned the right way though
toquinho virei seu fã nesse exato momento vou torcer muito por vc cara !
Kkkkkk
You just watched and commented on a video of Rousimar Palhares. No confusion here (anymore), especialy with him just getting banned from the UFC.
that man should of watched palhares tapes as soon as his leg stretched out palhares fucking took the leg so quick, beast
Well the ref said stop, which caused Avellan to stop defending...hence having to then tap when the lock was on. Palhares wasn't aware of that, so understandably thought he'd won. He over-did the lock because he felt cheated - bad communication all round.
The restart at least gave him an opportunity to defend against the lock properly, but he should have tapped earlier - the injury wouldn't have occurred if the ref had stopped it earlier or allowed them to continue on the edge of the mat.
How can they be in the same weightclass? Looks like there is a difference..