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Narcissistic Personality Disorder
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The narcissist sometimes isn't the big problem, it's the people who support them.
Sorry my friend @Artman1 but a - a - all narcissistic people are preditors - dominant - & egoistic abusers, under any & every situations! They are like, when a person gets in to a quick sand, and rarely if one can escape them. The greatest problem of all is, us good people, click a bit late, what we are facing. That's when the big problems come alonge! + they are EGOISTIC HYPOCRITS!
Like their friends and family who believe their lies and defend/uphold their behavior...
Flying monkeys.
The worst is some used to be friends but went to the dark side.
Sorry to sound so sad story but
It's like that .
Stay aware and strong.
Exactly! Narcissist Lesbian neighbor and her flying monkeys. She has gaslighted me, used fear tactics by continuing to talk about her close relationship w the Landlord as a threat, Lesbian PDA in the front yard, etc., etc., etc.
They are the worst!!! And then they have complete strangers online validating them too!! This is why you can't win with them!
Narcissists are wounded individuals who will bleed on you, and harm you in terms of your health or your self esteem. Folks, please cut off a narcissist completely in your life.✌️.
Not all narcissists are wounded people. Many narcissists are just plain evil and gain pleasure from hurting others, as it justifies their feelings of superiority over others, and makes them feel powerful. All narcissists are demonic or inhabited by demons, and all narcissists are into power and control.
Easier said than done....not so easy when they are threatening to end your life if you leave them
My narc has threatened to end my life and that I would be history. I'm trying to escape this. I'm afraid of him and what he'll do to me. I just want out, 3 years with him is enough!
100% agree they will drain you dry mentally emotionally physically and spiritually. To your death if possible.
Don't want to be a
1. Do not react, poker face
2. Non reactive to them
2. Remove rose colored glasses, be honest to yourself, have radical honesty
3. Value of honesty is silence
4. Don’t be fooled by gaslighting, don’t allow yourself to be deceived, don’t fight back, say one word answers
5. Keep your mouth shut, pick battles, fewer words as possible
6. Be true to who you are, don’t allow them to change you
7.
Thanks, just saved me 29 min and 40 seconds. 😁
Great advice 👍
Great advice!
Thank you so much..Will do.
This is a 2 way street. Cause when is it acceptable to wait ? When changing the time or place to meet 4times in one event) when having to bow down too many times to accommodate THEM. When you lose a person (like a twin /siblings) and they can't "help you" bit, you are expected to help them through their tough life issues? This needs addressed. People are so easily screaming someone is a Narc yet refuse to BE there for another.
Wise Old Sayings: When someone shows you who they are, believe them. Actions speak louder than words. Leopards don't change their spots.
Agreed and never think the contrary uve lived with them I lived with one for twenty years
Amen💕 And zebras don’t change their stripes either!!!!
and 'if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck . . . '
But people also make mistakes. And need to be forgiven.
My step-father used to warn me to avoid women who stated "I don't lie"; now I know why. I have a saying for my son: Beware of the Christian woman whose sins are about to be exposed for she will not hesitate to sacrifice you to her GOD of self-image.
For me gunfire worked. I live in the country- when he came after me - he pulled in my driveway- not his house but mine alone-when he stepped out of his truck- I fired a shot- his second step I fired dangerously close to his head. I ignored his words He yelled I felt that !! I just want to talk to you !!
I YELLED BACK 3RD WON'T MISS!!! LOW TONE OF VOICE COLD WITHOUT EMOTION. HE ran over my mailbox leaving- haven't seen him since. 😂😂😂 I meant it , I would have dropped him.I had a shattered left heel bone, after surgery (metal plate and 18 screws-) he pushed me down so hard into a bush- it killed the bush and cracked my cast open where my foot hit the concrete sidewalk. He drove me to the hospital ER in my SUV. What a performance he put on at the hospital. Lying about what happened and that I fell , he tried to catch me🤬
He drove me to his house in my SUV Had a buddy drive him to pick up his truck thinking he had me trapped. 2 days later he left to go to the convienent store- I used my spare keys I grabbed while at my house- loaded my stuff in 10 min from his house - drove by my house an hour away grabbed my dogs- checked into a cabin on the water for 3 days registered under a childhood friend's name nobody knew for 3 days to rest before I went back home.yes!!! In a cast on crutches but I did have a knee cart. Threw my stuff out his window then threw it in the car and took off!!! I Have been greatful every day to have gotten away from him.
while I applaud your getting out, the gunfire was a foolish step. If you had killed him, it wouldn't matter if it was "self defense." You'd probably be in jail because 2 wrongs don't make a right. I do understand defending yourself, and not allowing him anywhere near you, otherwise he could have killed you. I applaud that. I didn't have a gun and got out alive. But I wanted to point out, you may still be attracted to that type, because the glaring truth is that Trump is a horrible narcissist, cheating on all 3 wives, it's all about him and his image, covering up things he did that were wrong (paying off a porn star, proven sexual assault against E. Jean Caroll and the list goes on). The millions of people that vote for and support him only keep his narcissism alive and hyperactive. Literally believing he's the savior instead of Jesus, that's delusion. And yet people believe his lies and manipulation, even after more than 400 lawsuits in his lifetime and all the other denials. I'm point out the truth about threatening with guns because my ex was a cop, and believe me, he always tried to convince authorities he was the good guy and I was the problem. When he brutally assaulted me, he said I was lying to "try to get the house". Those dumbass men believed him.
Man i love Americans, you're goddamn right!
You are so amazing!!!!
Good job!
God bless you and your dogs!!!
That is awesome what a gutsy woman..... That's the only type of woman I ever want to meet again...... Congratulations to you again on your escape! YEA for you👍 let those demonic sickos know!
Narcissist can damage you mentally and financially!
She tried. 1,ooo dollar expectation, a double dip, hit up her brother next, lie and manipulate.
They also hurt vulnerable trusting people that don't see their ugly schemes and selfishness until too late. It's all about themselves.
Someone should really tell them off but that was their parents job long ago.
Sad evil people now.
Just Take care of yourself and trust God.
Between my two daughters my x got me snagged for a good 22 years, my children are wonderful and have made my life leagues better but had she not stopped taking her birth control without telling me I would've been done with her 11 years ago!
When a narcissist is also a closet addict. Oh, double whammy. Second guessed myself wondering how I didn't see her bs, how I'm street smart and didn't see what she was hiding. All the red flags but second guessed myself wondering how someone good really be that manipulative so it must be my imagination. Nope it was all true. Covertly manipulated people in my life against me, spread smear campaigns behind my back. All so when she stole everything and ran off with my possessions, it seemed like I deserved it, smdh. All lies
True
Show NO sign of weakness. Narcissists love to kick you when you're down. They have the temperament of a snake and can't be trusted... Ever!
Why cant i see it after 16 yrs i keep one more time dum me 8:10
Very well put
Resilience is strongly needed. Provoking them and giving ammo in communication will reside in backfire. I normally say, "What's the point." Also make sure your emotions don't hijack your logic which could mess how you portray or obtain truth which may lead to false truths.
Yeh kabi Kiki ban jata ha toh kabhi Nikki.....
Narcissist No Contact is the only way.
There are other ways, but if you use those ways without justification and get caught, you'll go to prison for a very long time. Some say even prison is better than living with a Narcissist. At least in prison, you can see them coming more than you can outside.
What I observed with a narc, if you are too complicated and hard to control.. they will start looking for a new supply or go back with their ex 😂 They always want to be in control of everything
Going no contact saved my life ❤
Mika, me too,
Yes 🙌
Mine is gray rock since we have a kid
way to go but trust me when there is no supply they will manage to find you and crawl back, if you resist you have another fight on your hands, they never go away.
@@emmanuelofori6521they will when 9x19mm Luger/ Parabellum and 12 Gauge 3" 000 Buckshot rounds headed downrange in their direction.
Most Narcissists don't want to die and like every other predator, they weigh risk vs. reward. In my case, the risk far outweighs the reward.
Narcissistists don't know how to create amicable solutions in relationships , they don't want to put effort into the relationship because then it's not about them
What a waste of my precious time. I recommend going no contact as much as possible when it's a parent and permanent no contact when it's anyone else. Life is too short. Get away, find your joy and forget they exist-that's the best revenge.
17 years.....no family.
O i need to get away from him.
If you can build your own healthy stability away from the Narcissistic family member(s), please do so.
It isn't that you have to be no contact with family who are narcissisic, but you DO have to limit access and control over your life or they will destroy you for no reason other than they are evil Narcissistic.
Healthy people, especially family, do not manipulate or try to control grown adults.
I agree waste of energy they are.
Manipulation and gas lighting
don't allow yourself to continue these tactics, family one's are the
worst one's...the self love and prayers,GOD's love , protection,
purpose keeps me, my heart also
Remember this happened for you,
not to you.... AMEN
The most important thing is to just stop and not communicate at all. Number two is to be able to look at yourself and make sure that you are not starting to take on some of their traits. Not be vengeful to not be bitter and angry and defensive. My relationship with Jesus Christ is my strength and this has helped me more than anything else. Reading the word and understanding it's in what it is saying.... Allows healing to happen and also gives me strength that I don't have on my own. It also opens my eyes more and more 2 the truth.
Yes! Absolutely same, I pray everyday now. Great comment! Blessings from Most High to you! 🙏🏼 📿
@@jaxong.2701 Thank you... Prayers to you as well... I pray that Jesus Christ's work He has began in your life continues and through His word... The Gospel of Jesus Christ and what he did on the cross for us all, will lead you into all truth to be a light in the darkness ‼️ALL GLORY GOES TO JESUS CHRIST MY SAVIOR... IT IS NOT ME, IT IS JESUS CHRIST IN ME THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING AND GIVES MORE TO ME THE MORE I SUBMIT TO HIM.. HE IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE ‼️. I have to put on the full armor of God everyday Ephesians 6:11 through 13. 👍🕊️ Have a good one. 😊
Amen ❤
Amen and Amen!
✝️❤️🙏
I totally agree
They are insane. If they are not dangerous, run. If they are dangerous, collect evidence. Expect that they do things you cant even imagine someone would do, meaning be prepared to be in shock all the time.
So unhealthy. I left mine for good. 6 years of hell. I am physically and emotionally not well.
I pray that the Lord will give you a vision and a hope for your future. Trust and rely on Him. You need you right now.
After going no contact the narc spread rumors hoping to get an angry phone call from me. He made a fool of himself bc no one believed him and I was not affected by anything he said about me.I have found peace😇
🎯 ♟️ perfect counter punch that happened to me.. I didn’t say a word lol❤
@@empress9857
Stay strong. You deserve better
They also bring blame on others when they are the blame.
Yes. & they steal your ideas & then take credit for them
In their feeble mind they are perfect.
They are not honest,they are always lying.Manipulative and they will never love you.They only love thier selves, What they did wrong, it becomes your fault.
FINALLY someone says something about how to RID them and not all this: "Will he be baaaaack?" We dont want them back, WE WANNA RID THEM! ✌️
This has been sooo helpful! Narcissist can damage you mentally and financially.
4:13 AM
So true!!
Yes it's happening to me 😲😳
4:26 a.m.
Physically and mentally
It’s been six years since I went no contact! I feel like a new person! He is now with his new supply! No more anxiety or nervousness! It over!
Very good for u.
Yea. They give you the worst feeling. It's like you are always waiting for the arguments etc. Never calmness
Deborah, don't they make you a nervous wreck. They could make you just shake and be anxious with stomach issues. Mine had me taking diazepam and I was just a teen. It was horrible...so glad I went no contact.
@@truthseeker5941 yes, and I am always happy for people that can get away and stay away. Seens like it is unreal but it is Very real.
Same here! 6 years ago i let his ass go! We still "bump into each other" but i tend to flee. He tries to engage but i quickly say, "Hi" and keep it moving. Is that still giving him power?
@@ChannelZero1031 YES! Any verbal communication with him will make him think he still has a chance. You're still supply until he degrades and discards you. Don't let it get to that point because then he'll live rent-free inside your head which is what he wants. No contact means no contact! I know it's tough; but you must be completely invisible at all times.
Narcissists tend to react badly when they are ignored and amp up their offenses and threats. However, their anger, rages upon being ignored are their own punishment.
NO CONTACT AND BE STRONG TO STAY THAT WAY! ALSO REMOVE ALL INDIRECT CONTACTS WITH THE NARCIST! GET A LIFE! ❤️
Narcissists have no real lives. That is why they envy and crave the lives of others. Narcissists are parasites.
I know know for a fact silence hurts to the core. Simply because people can't get into your brain unless you open your mouth and with a argument if you don't say anything and turn and walk away it's over. Most people know as long as you are communicating back and forth the line of communication is open and I'm getting somewhere. Not today. Enough said. Disarm your fear, confusion and mental status With God you can Cope. He is with you then and there.❤
Most definitely. Great advice
Avoiding & disengaging is best. Choosing to "show" a narcisist your invulnerability can still be a game move of engagement. The sooner you separate, the sooner your compassionate appropriate feelings for a person with serious problems returns. Leave them alone & move on.
OH YES
Agree the relationship is on their terms from the start
That's what I've always done.
But what if it’s your daughter?
@@taniaashby137 yes. Sometimes we are trapped by love or duty. Good luck navigating & helping your daughter.
Thank you.We empaths need to be reminded of this. 🙏
You aren't an empath. God forbid being a normal/average person. Get over yourself.
We do need to be reminded
Watch out for covert N who says they’re an empath
I know exactly how to get narcissist away from me... Keep telling the truth. They can't handle the truth! They hate it with a passion....
How. Example. Please
Yes, very true. I thought so too, at first. But later on, I found out, they / narcissisticperson / people, do use, any & everything against one, who they victomize! Though late, but even better to say, if you say so + or, have it yoor way. Heck if they know, what I mean by that. Lert's give T H E M a new hobby?!! Yeah, it's easier said than done, but as Rick Hunter said - ' ' IT WORKS FOR ME. ' '
My remedy to these prats, are complete " Silence " as they despise being ignored !! Silence is Golden everytime.
The problem is they don’t always. Run away for good. You will still hear from them even after you left them ten years ago!
Yeah like the terminator
Depends on how we react if we don't they generally disappear.
Mine was 16 years begging me to help THEM. After they had abducted and hiding our children for 5 years 11 years earlier. The nerve !
It’s amazing how one discovered things by accident on RUclips and they free you ! Wow this is the best video I ever listened to since February 2nd 1964! Wow !
in the end you die alone in your own mind.
knowing a label was never compassionately knowing a human being . a human being 𝕹𝖊𝖛𝖊𝖗. forgets anyone.
Fantastic revelation .More revelations.Thanks
My sister would qualify as one of the worst narcissistic people you’d ever meet. She has personality disorder aswell.
She’ll try destroy any relationships you have with people. She’s 36 and my parents have had to cut her off, she’s tried to destroy their relationship for years.
If she looks after my dog, I ask her not to feed him crap, 30 minutes after Leaving her house I’m bombarded with videos of her feeding him chocolates etc. and that’s just the start. family or not. They are the most evil people:
Edit… thanks for the comments etc. also seems abit rough the way some people have re acted with their nasty comments. Obviously a few narcs in the comments😂.
Chocolate has chemicals in it that can kill a dog, according to the ASPCA! Highly toxic to dogs, so not just an unwanted treat!
Why are you allowing your beloved pets and little beings around a harmful being. You know they will only abuse your pets and children. You owe it nothing.
@@elizabethandiosa4579 That is what I said, "Why in the hell are you leaving your pets with her evil self?"
Your sister might have psychopathic traits.
Get out , and , Stay out . Best advice .
Reference - H.G.Tudour the knowing Narcassist .
Edit :. Chocolate is deadly to dogs .
They also have allergic reactions to "wandering Willie" AK's Tratascanthus - a ground covering weed that's next to impossible to kill , unless walked on and crushed .
I have been ignoring the narcissist I live with and he's getting pissed, I told him he is a miserable man and I wasn't going to be miserable like him and I told him to go take someone else's energy.
You sound like me
Maybe I could do that too
@@karenhart2923 Try it Karen.
🙏🙏🙏
Sometimes giving them exactly what they deserve at that moment and standing up for yourself is exactly what u should do no excuses and hold them to your standards not the other way or raise hell when they don’t
This video is the most accurate description & experience of how narcs handle being abandoned. Even if you haven't abandoned them, their fear and assumptions will cause them to react negatively. Every narc will leave...be it temporarily or a long period of time... if rejected or ignored, but they all eventually come back, it may take days, months, or even years, but they will resurface... The only way to make their exit permanent is to intentionally close the door yourself... They will think they can keep coming back, and you welcome their bad behavior
Get rid of the narc. They stay where they at and u stay where u at.
The reaction my daughter got from this was a gun stuck into her belly and her life threatened and the life of her entire family. She was able to contact the police and escape thank the Lord and he ended up in jail but got bailed out. She has a protective order but he contacted her less than an hour of his release from jail. Many prayers are needed.
Get your daughter out of his sight. I have the feeling he will go on. And keep praying!!!
@mindy that’s not a narcissist that’s a violent psychopath
Get your own weapons, spiritual protection, self defense in every sense, especially financially, emotionally, best not to engage with a freak from hell but move for peace. Do know if they believe you are vulnerable, scared, defenseless, won't report them or hold them accountable, they will keep targeting you. You take target lessons. Do not assume mutual acquaintances are your friends. Restraining orders don't work well except to allow police arrest. Plan on changing name a d children's names if you have children. An abuser is never a good parent. Do plan your escape, grayrock, avoid it, move to another country.
Bless you x
Bless you. I am in similar situation
These Narcissists are out here studying these videos. Mine recorded every conversation and is doing everything you recommend. Everyone else is a Narcissist to him.
Yup, there is nothing to prove, your life is something you live on your terms.
Your presentations are clear and logical. You give perfect advice too!! I LIVED with a covert narcissist and constantly tried to discuss issues and connect, and all that happened was my own behavior became worse and worse. I was confused and frustrated since the beginning of the marriage. I wish I could post a billboard in the town where he now lives, warning the people who will be in his social circle. I rejected him not only sexually (after many years!!), but I finally learned exactly what he was doing to me, and I QUIT enabling him. We finally divorced. Good riddance. No regrets. No remorse. Free and relaxed!
My Son is narcissistic and I need a divorce from him. He's 44 and has blamed me for his mistakes. I am tired of
It. He needs help and I have cut off from
My life I’m currently saving. Bad relationships drain you around the board
@@tinaflint5917 a wise decision. Do not weaken! He might come back, begging, when the chips are down
@@tinaflint5917
Hello Tina, I sincerely hope your relationship with your son turns around. I find myself in the same situation… It real just dawned on me that I have a double whammy not only do I believe my son has narcissistic tendencies but his dad is very very narcissistic and I am tired of blaming myself… sending God love your way, stay Blessed!
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My husband has been one for 44 years your right silence is golden i really dont know which way to go im going crazy
I’m a mother of a narcissist; I have enable my son and am finally letting him go emotionally.
My husband and I were drinking. He began started to put me down and called me names like he did many times. This night we were speaking to eachother and he makes a fiste and punches me in my nose and lip. I began bleeding so much he became very scared. He the said to me, "Oh my God... WHAT DID YOU DO TO YOURSELF!". I then told him, "Sorry I am not that drunk this time." He ran to the fridge to get ice to try to stop the mess he made of my face. He had never done that in the past. He would always say that
I hurt myself.
The truth was bleeding down onto the floor. I called the police and had him removed. The DA took the charges and He spent a week in jail.
Theyre demon infested, trust me. Just save yourself and leave.
Were there any repercussions from their jail stay?
I’ve been doing these things for the last 10 months but it’s going to be awhile because my husband has had 26 years to get his manipulation game perfected, I’m literally like a hostage to him now, he’s got me trapped with nothing! I only have my clothes & personal belongings to my name, right now I have to be grateful he allows me to stay in his house still because he knows I have nowhere to go out of here except the streets where I’ll be homeless & die & he’s already been slowly killing me physically with the emotional, verbal & mental abuse, lies etc…I’ve lost 50 pounds in less than 10 months & have not hardly been able to sleep!! I have obvious health issues but he just blames all that on me & has everyone manipulated against me including my family, his family, my friends (who I no longer have) and my kids. All I can do is pray every day & read my Bible which helps me stay grounded. Thank you God ♥️🙏🏻♥️
praying for you, same boat!
But if you left him government can help you with apartment to live in them move to another state away and leave still can find work in other area
The first thing u need to do is get your secret plan formulated to leave. Unless u are comfortable being trapped. It will get worse & worse. Don't wait too long to get out or it could be fatal. U have nothing, so just leave with nothing. Pray. There are people who will help u. Keep your mouth closed to the narc. Good luck in your journey sister. Now Run
You are alive , walk out the door , start again . God will walk with you
GOD will help you when you help yourself. Please trust in HIM and make that move in secrecy.
Better to be free safe and healing even if it means having nothing at first. GOD will replenish
Remember you cant Heal where your are hurting.
I am so upset with myself. For over a month I have been silent. This morning I fell for the gaslighting and was engaged in a negative exchange with my narcissist husband. I still live in the house. I am trying to move out now. I wish I did not allow him to pull me into an emotional argument this morning
Sorry Dear. tread with utmost caution. Do what you think is best for you. Best Wishes.
This is one of THE BEST videos ive ever watched on this subject, and ive watched THOUSANDS over the last 12 to 15 years.
I was raised by two narcs, and my biggest problem is im TOO trusting, and i was neglected as a child, so i opened up to these people like a book.
I wish id learned this 15 years ago...or 50.
Im drawn to these people as a result of my childhood.
And it seems that narcissism has taken over the whole planet.
God help us all.
You're going to be just fine because there is freedom in your honesty. I pray that God heals you from your past and that you are no longer victimized or traumatized moving forward. God's got you! 🙏✅💯👌
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So true all things said! Jealousy is so real in them, Fake smile and center of attraction they have to be, even their family member is to be proud of!
The more I think about it, the more the anger just..sticks. I have a RIGHT TO BE! But, for some reason, I don't seem to care at all and I've never been happier. The more I learn, the more it just reinforces my justifications for smiling about just.."vanishing". - 🦂
I dated my supervisor who happened to be a narcissist and I left the relationship after 3months. Never knew of narcissists till recently and he has costed me so much mental health issues. Thanks for this information, healing gradually.
Whole my life, As Empath, I had only narcs, my life was ruined, until I realised who they are, no more bad, demonic people in my life,
Never ever, not a one, no way💙🙏👑😇😇🤴💜😁😏🤔👑💕❤️💜🤴💖😀🌹🌹🙏🙏😇👑🆗💙❤️💕
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I have been dealing with this narcissist nightmare for years,but now I don't take a dam kick them out of my life soon as they think they're better than everyone.
When I don’t respond to my narc quickly enough, he does the hot cold treatment. So, if he was friendly, and I took to long to write back, he would multiply that by three. So, I don’t hear from him for 3 days. If it would take 2 days for me to respond, his punishment would be 6 days of silence. Very juvenile. Being sick, having surgery doesn’t matter to these types. Even though you had a 6 hour surgery, well, you should have found a way to get back to them.
OMG mine does the same!
So true. The narcissist I know of was alternating between threatening and love bombing towards her spouse so that he won’t leave the abusive situation because she needs him to do most of the childrearing. She also put pressure on him to have kids in the first place or else she will “kill herself”.
She also demeans him in front of the kids and talks about him behind his back if he happens to decline to serve her on even one of many asks. And the asking never stops. Never.
When he finally ended up in the hospital, she was nowhere to be found. Left to have some fun and blamed him for almost ruining her holiday plans, so he told her he isn’t holding her. All of a sudden she didn’t need him so desperately, hm... Once he recovered, she was back on his case but also buying him things because of “guilt” (more like family pressure) to make up for abandoning him when he was down. She “ran back” when she saw there is still use left of him, like nothing ever happened, never apologizing for being so cruel and refusing to stand by his side in a time of need.
Oh, yeah, she still texts all the time, the demands never stop, and if he dares to not respond immediately, there will be an interrogation follow up call and if he declines any one of her demands, all hell breaks loose. Her favorite line “You are so selfish! I only asked you thing. ONE THING. And you can’t even do that. You never do anything!” Of course he never has a right to ask her to “do anything” for him.
If his health is drained and he alerts her to him doing too much like doing things at night and then waking up every single morning to take the kids to school, she could care less. She will not lift a finger to take some of the load that she had placed upon him off. Nope. Be careful who you chose to be your mate.
Forever in the dog box...sometimes I didnt know what I said...because when we parted ....all was well....that's what I thought .. lol
Yes, they dont care how you feel at all, its all about them and how they feel, its all your fault..They do not have to do what they ask you to do, other wise you in their eyes disrespect them, never mind that crap they put you through on a daily basis whenever it strikes them to do so, They feel they're superior and smarter than you. They always have an answer no matter what happens they're so good at manipulating you in lying to you and gaslighting it's amazing it's their second nature No hesitation..
Wow you just made me realize a pattern I’ve been tryin* to understand for years.
You're right on target. I experienced everything, but I'm too smart to handle him. He's not only narcissist but too jealous of everything I have. I can't talk to a opposite sex even if it's 100% business. He's very jealous of my success. He thinks, he's it and better than me, but the truth of the matter he is not. So, I gave him one word each time he complains of me. I have no time for all the BS. I told him, you're the only one complaining a lot, if you can't stand me, the door is wide open to get out. After a day or so, big bouquet of red roses on top of the table. I told him, I don't need flowers. Do you really think you can fool me with your flowers? And that's about it. I rarely talk to him. Silent treatment is the best. I don't need aggrevations. I intentionally let him digest what he did. Frankly speaking, he changed a lot. He's the opposite of what he was. Man o man, he picked up the wrong woman to manipulated.
Excellent, more strength to you dear❤❤❤
He will be good for a time- but he will break you. Or at least thunk he has- trust me, you don't know better than the millions of victims. You just haven't gotten there yet.
When a Narc starts the game of trying to get you to 2nd guess yourself- I flat out tell them “ you heard what I said & I stand by it “ or I will say “ I stand by my truth “ and then walk away or go completely silent on them afterwards. They back down in a jiffy. They get the message very clearly that you are not a good target for them in their sick mind games.
Grant, that is all so true!! I remember acting incredulous and talking back to his criticism, “What!! Is that all you have to criticize me for? Don’t waste my time!” I recently told a gentle sensitive person who has a narcissist in her life, “You need to get more FLIPPANT!,”but then you walk away. Short flippant answers as if you don’t care. Narcissists are weak and cowardly inside when you STOP giving them control over you.
These techniques work when u master them. Be ur authentic self while ur doing them. I would crack a smile or laugh while I was Grey rocking pretending to be more interested in the TV or on my phone. I started catching myself laughing inside when they do that one last hail mary statement and storm away bc u really don't care anymore 😀...it still sucks tho when u accept the person u loved didn't exist.
These tactics do work they lie a lot they forget what they say and text messages shut them down
Yep I got hellah screen shots
I met a guy on a weekend.
I had never lived such situation!
First, when I came in the hostel to register, I saw a guy. From that moment, I couldn’t take my eyes off him!
The same for him!
I was really disturbed.
Finally, we spoke together few hours. As usually, I was like an open book.
I made him confidences.
He showed me he was delicate.
But at 30 years old, he had no work and never had …supposed by choice.
The day after he came for a coffee at my house and never leaved!
From that day, my life was a question mark from the beginning of our relation till the end.
He never showed feelings, neither affection signs.
On the third day, I asked him: « Don’t you have something to do to your house? »
His face changed as if he had been hurt.
The same day, he started to insult me.
From that moment, I closed like an oyster.
No more confidence to him.
Nothing about my life.
Much silence from me: in the car, at home, everywhere.
So he was very puzzled.
He didn’t want to meet my family, my friends, even not his family.
He always wanted us to be alone.
To confuse me.
He stole me money.
He was lying like he was breathing.
It lasted 3 months but 2 1/2 months too much!
I
I broke up but I was mad at me because I didn’t tell him what I really thought about him.:
That he was a Monster, a coward, but I was afraid he could attack my family.
It didn’t last a long time but I got so confused about myself and about Humans:
How such human beings can exist?
Why?
What do they want from you? From us?
Even my psychologist didn’t believe me.
I got answers with you and RUclips and all the comments I have seen.
Thanks.
@@michelineverret2871 he's got a personality disorder and he's using you. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Avoid him please.
Keep asking them for money, then when they don't give you money say you are leaving for good. Then rinse and repeat.
😂😂😂😂😂 I love that one
I was married to a narcissist for 18 yrs. I did not know what a narcissist was. I just knew I couldn't live like that anylonger. So i divorced him. I just found out what a narcissist is about 3 yrs ago. I'm okay. It took years to figure out why I kept repeating the same relationships. Its been a deep dive and a lot of shadow work. There is nothing wrong with me😁🙏😉
I was in the same boat i didn’t know until after 😂 3 years but i knew she didn’t love me it was clear, it took me a whole year to get the courage to leave though
I was married to a narsissist for 13 years, feeling bad about it, tried to get away two times (moved out, and was taking out a separation), but needed someone in my life, and unfortunately went back to him. The third time, I made it, got divorced after beeing separate about one year, and used help from proffesionals, and friends, fell in love with someone else. That made me successfully divorcing my ex, which should have been done long time ago/ should have been the runaway bride.
Same here
I learned about them the hard way, I got it now, four years, 11 months and 35 second, I will never, ever, forget the lesson I learned.
Another thing they did that I mistook for genuine, loving care was keeping exact tabs on my schedule and whereabouts - down to even a half hour. I'd let them know that I just left work, en route with shopping, en route for doctors appointments, slightly delayed or even ahead of schedule etc. It turned out that they were only calculating how much time they had to manage their 'hobbies' (to put it mildly) in between my being at home or not!
MAX Or get rid of the other supply they are with to have them leave or beat you home...
@@renelynn5205 Yes, their 'hobby' was cheating - using my schedule to do so!
Yea..I thought it was sweet of my wife at the beginning only to realise when i accidentally went through her phone one night ... It was a big blow on me I didn't know what to think of at that moment...
@@imlijc7588 When I accidentally found out I felt very stupid for not noticing all along.
You are spot on.My strategy is just keep on ignoring the narsisst and it makes them more angry and always show hatred towards me.I try not to react to the toxic behaviours
I am listening to this while sitting on a separate table from my vulerable covet narcissist in the pub garden! Top advice here 🙏🏼
Holy Guacamole this is the best, most succinct, straight up, bang on, calm, non PTSD-triggering, informative summary of NARCS, their tactics, psychology/motivation and how to deal with them. BRAVO! Bookmarking this for every future friend who is going thru the he'll most of us here commenting, reading and watching may know way to well - and I know the moment I had to switch gears from caring to protecting myself and go against my nature and patterns to react - or be shocked (and show it) and once you see it plus know the patterns - these valuable insights are like a 5☆ BOOTCAMP on how to spot a mask drop... clock it... zip it + like seeing a snake - don't show fear, say anything or maje any sudden moves 🐉😂... just slide to the side, say as little as possible and start finding ways to add space to any calls, texts, visits... with the eventual aim being goung NO CONTACT. Full stop. You wouldn't open the door again to welcome in and trust a snake again, would you? Risking, not only are they statistically more than likely going to strike out at you - but now youre also putting you pets, babies, friends and families in danger too! Literally, it's true. Coz it they can't bite you, next best that will leave you guilt-ridden and devastated is for them to cut you deep by hurting those you love. There is no way out except to stop, drop your gloves, cease all interacting/fighting and leave pigs like that in the ring - and slowly walk away from them - saying nothing ever again to them as soon as it's safe and possible. AMEN. Took a decade to get it and hours of watching amazingly, caring vids like this #BlessTheTherapists - and our lives get way shinier- and we grow a perfect layer if Teflon skin so no matter what anyone throws at us unfairly or cruely - it wont stick, just rolls off us and we don't get stuck in any moody rollercoaster hurtful toxic, boring, time-wasting, energetically zapping, unbalanced, unpredictable but predictably NARCY type relationships... ever again x #WordUp❤ Hugs to everyone needing one 24-7. Shine on, crazy beautiful empathic diamonds! #DatingYourselfIsFun😊
Thank you. I have ceased relationship with a jealous narcissist. Progressing slowly but surely.
A narcissist will make you feel sorry for them, my brother is one and has been one his whole life. I have been hit, punched, kicked and a dog chain wrapped around my face all as a kid. As an adult I was punched in head, he broke an antique secretary of mine , ruined his kids marriages and tried to ruin mine. Ruined his wife’s life and she finally got the courage to leave him when her daughter moved out and got a house and she moved in with her. He also has the paranoia. There is no helping them. They do not listen, they don’t manage finances either. You will drive yourself crazy feeling sorry for them and trying to help. They don’t understand. Just move away and stay away. Don’t talk about them. Just forget they exist. After my parents passed I was done. It feels great! Sorry to say I did not get the big brother I could respect and love. His pour kids have issues because of him.
Refuse to walk on eggshells or be controlled oh it drives them angery. They cannot stand having their mask ripped from their face. They think their discarding you but when you say we'll bye and walk away they won't admit it but their passing fire
I was totally in love with a narc . He was away on a job . Then had problems , i helped him out , and from then on it was one problem after another , always needed money and not coming home . Today I had all i could take . Today I grew up . Thank God .
THANKS FOR YOUR HELPFUL VIDEOS....GOD BLESS YOU IN JESSUS NAME
was in a relationship
he by far was the worst. I had to look up narcissists and educate myself. We weren't t long but did some damage in the beginning.I had to get myself together meditate and realized who I was then it came down to I knew who I was and didn't react to any of his mind games or narcissist behavior and because of that he totally blew a lid. few words I said the worse he played victim. nonreactive gets to them it shows you're onto their games. they can't control you. when you speak, they can't turn your words against you, and you can't be manipulated. I have experienced and witnessed this for myself, and that night, I walked out and never spoke to him again, and I feel so powerful
Your so good looking I can see why a narcissist would go after you.
Yep! Prayers for all the people connected to this personality type! I never knew people could be so demented! I worked 2 jobs tired living and basically naive! Now Eyes wide opened and ready for work; retired and he is too cleaning house and minding my own business! Married and dummy me co signed on a garage remodel this year! I wanted a shed I don't have nothing of my own except van. Thank God for wheels ! But planning daily on the important smart tactics. Love ya all 70 and I am steadfast in my mission! 😊😢😮😢
Good on ya
Safe smooth exit to your new life! Travel well
Bless you i finally woke up when this blame game kicked in an started screaming in my face i froze i walked of never looked back that was it the persons gone mad i no my honesty my weapon so bring it on i can beat my own battles an im the bull Scorpio energy amen🎉
What a waste of time and years to spend time and giving my love ,caring ,and attiontion to Narc ..after 8 years I finally found out about his games / act toward me... I given narc all my trust and narc a lies player cheater ..and narc used to used me and tricks me so many times..I am feeling so depressed and stress since I been with Narc ..I had enough..of his games ..
I can’t believe I had knew someone with 90 % of these characteristics…. He just blocked me because he realized I was aware of his lies…. I can’t stop listening to these videos 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
My mother made me develop low self esteem and I doubted myself a lot...And she always use vulnerability to attack me but whenever I stay quiet and don't giver her attention then she will treat me with respect😢
The best dialogue I ever had was when I told my narc Ex that I was leaving him because I was sick and tired of having to put up with him as an emotional charity case, and be so effing tolerant of his lame emotional weaknesses and feeble bad bahaviors. And that the only reason he has any position in the town is because his parents are so well-liked.
It's a good thing that I'm nimble,
and I had my car keys in hand.
And when he tried to hoover me back I asked him how long would it take him to overcome his inadequacies. Because I have no intention of being so, so disappointed again. I really expected much more and much better from you, and I see no reason to get back with you, until you've actually changed.
I haven't thought about that for a long time.
Good times!
I guess it wasn't a dialogue. It was my Declaration of Independence.
Gee, if feels good to think about how surprised and outraged he was.
How amazed he was to be called a charity case. The look on his face!
And how amazed he was, that I meant every word. That was ...maybe 1988?
He's made several other wives miserable, since then.
Oh, that's right, I called him a three-time loser, too. I was his 3rd relationship and 1st wife.
I made the best exit. The others were feebs.
I found myself locked in my home for months with a female narcissist who says she has para schizo. After having my mind, spirit and body beat down and almost being convinced I was the one causing all the problems and even I was the one hearing voices I felt like I was about to give the last ounce of life I had one night during her baiting me into reacting, I took my belt off and refused to be the aggresor but I let her know she was hurting me and that it was going to stop tonight and I didn't care what happened after. It took 4 hours to save myself. In hindsight I took my balls back and I'll never let anyone abuse me again.
My Narcissistic partner had me believing I had the problems. I was with this man for 30 years. He had me so convinced I was an alcoholic, I went to rehab for 5 months. He also had me convinced that I should stay on Zoloft even though it made me a zombie and gained 40 Lbs.. If I went off of it and started seeing clearly, I would start reacting to him. He would tell me I am too emotional and have to go back on the Zoloft. He died in 2018. 5 years later I am feeling wonderful. I enjoy my beer, but far from being an alcoholic. I love my life. I can see things so clearly. I will not date because I do not want to. I love being alone. I do have severe PTSD. Especially at night. When he was alive, I could hear his footsteps walking up the stairs and the grunting noices he would make. Then he would push open my door. Those noices now when they happen trigger this scary episode in my life. I working through it.
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Thank you for your input. As you say the things you have stated, l am seeing my life. I have been married to a narcissist for almost 40 years now and l cannot really imagine how l stayed with this person this long. I swear , there were times l had weeped many days even weekly. As if if l do not get targeted more than a few days, it becomes strange and there will be a trigger. And you were right of all the gaslightings and they almost turned me crazy. I thought l was everything he would label as such. I did everything for him including all the house chores whether l worked and took care of the kids but l was made to believe that l am obligated to do all these things and he is well entitled for everything else. Both of us are catholics and this is the only reason why I am still in this toxic relationship. No one knows our toxic life indoors as he keeps as if he is the perfect but quiet husband with our acquaintances. I cannot say friends because l cannot invite them to my house, but they do not know why. I have read so many things about covert narcissism for a few years now and am trying to react differently to avoid being hurt, still he tries to trigger me and l just say a few words and go to my separate room which had helped me to be away from him and l stood up with my decision. I still do my wifely duties on chores except for intimacy, can't stand him. We are both retired but still he does participate in any chores. I am not looking forward to any changes, l will just continue to avoid the drama and continue praying for God to sustain me and my sanity. It is difficult but at least l understand where I am and just ignore the signs when he wants an argument so he can tell me to apologize when l say something that he thinks l should be sorry for. You are right, the more you keep quiet, the kess stressful your life will become. Thanks for giving me more enlightenment. I know l am not alone. Praise God... l am still on a long road to this earthly sufferings but l know that God allowed this to happen to me to strengthen me spiritually and because l love my God selflessly, then He had shown me the proper attitude to deal with this. I know l am dealing with someone l chose to marry with an illness unbeknownst to him l guess that is why l am still here but at least l know where l stand. Thank you again
My Nar Husband does the same thing to me! Tries to paint me as a alcoholic! But he smokes weed all damn day! 🙄
he left me when I told his mom (part of) what he did. only reason I did was because he left me crying outside in the winter waiting for an uber he called for me and she found me and asked what was wrong. 3 years and what a first love… he moved on right away, of course.
Listen dude, I didn’t pay to watch this valuable video so it’s not a favor to you but a privilege to me to forward it to others . Thank you very much , I’m almost feeling like a thief to get so much help for free honestly
You deserve this. As do I. This video is a gift to us that truly need it. Best wishes to you ❤
The information that you provides in these videos are not simple , you must be hearing from God. These info are God's REVELATION.
I am not being sarcastic here but I can't believe I am hearing what I have being experiencing😢,WOW!
My mother was a nightmare, getting away from her wasn't easy either. When I was a child I never knew when the next thump was coming , she was physically and verbally aggressive.
W grady, it takes consistent effort to heal! I attend AlAnon meetings. They are more helpful than anything else!!
Best wishes, forever!!
So was my auntie who raised me she was terrible. I still fear her even thou iam grown up and have kids
Have you ever thought how it was for dear mother raising you as a child?
I had no contact for 10 yrs and reconnected now there older the narcissist is worse and deeply nasty. So I cut them off for good this time, people my message is never reconnect with them EVER
This should possibly or definitely be taught to every child before they have to learn the hard way...like many of us have...this video says I'm some kind of narcissistic empath and also could be seen as a 100 % fake liar and exaggerated person by the true pro narcissis...when I just was way to over detailed and long winded in my expression of truth...I was 42 before I came across the most beautiful destroyer of reality narcissis in my life...its no joke...I thank her with all my heart and will always love her for showing me the most important thing in life which I'm still learning...loving and respecting myself fully and to truly know myself...I didn't realize there were parts of me I didn't know or forgot...and that's the true purpose of a narcissist in your life so don't let it kill you and follow the advice in this video and it'll all be ok😁
No contact is the only way to go... I see psychopathic or sociopathic tendencies in their personality as well...
My last tactic during gaslighting js stating that they may have dementia and I’ve been concerned for a long time and they need to be checked out. That renders them powerless and a burden. And shuts them up.
Omg, spot on. Little man to a T, couldn’t be more truer 😅 he speaks in deep tones to sound smarter, it’s hilarious and he doesn’t even know he’s doing it. Poor guy needs help years ago.
23 years of living with this person no way out for me😊 he knows i know what he is
Excellent videos, very concise and informative, Thank you.
Healthy non Narcissistic people think very differently, and one can be deeply blindsided with the negativity, abuse, and devistation of trusting ANY THING with such an abusive toxic person, who is literally rooting for your downfall and death.
A guy at a cafe had a Bret Easton Ellis novel on the table and I asked him about it. "He said it is very dark and not for everyone." Like it is some special secret club. I was cordial to the guy. I have read that book, I was wondering what he would say. My real response having read the book, is it's documenting the worst of the low. Predatory, egotistical, hollow, Lord of the Flies.
Yikes😳
codependency is what attracts narcissists. co dependent people are just as toxic as a narcissist is. unhealthy people attract unhealthy people. you must break your co dependent personality if you want to avoid these toxic and dangerous people.
1st time reading this. ..very real..thxs
I think you deserve to get the punishment treatment from all around you to spreading this fake.
Yes
I don't agree, at all..I'm a very confident individual, I'm an empath. I'm also a realist..
This is not always the case though
After the last break up I decided no more chances and moved on with my life. I found love again and my ex shows how much she hates me because she can’t control me anymore🤣🤣
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I’m dealing with a Malignant Narcissist Daughter in Family Court and she manipulated my nine year old daughter too !! I just happened to see your video and many of the characteristics you mentioned all applied. Now I understand why I was feeling like I was going insane because she had me believing that she never said that. Thank you for your video.
I have the same problem.
Lord have mercy I am as well!
It's really interesting to listen to this from a carer perspective. I have dealt with some clients with dementia and narcissistic traits, a lot of these strategies do help in that scenario. A gentle 'Oh, okay' or 'Oh, I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood' can do a lot to de-escalate a potentially volatile situation with someone who can't remember what they agreed to (or, in the case of a narcissist without dementia, someone who wants to manipulate the narrative).
I have been a Corer for my lovely son for 40 yrs and have supported Mental Health and many Career groups over that time.
Try dealing with someone that is "on the Spectrum" and a narcissist asshat.
my wife i realized at the ADR was forgetful, she seemed to be forgetful of events, mixing dates ,not speaking in a coherent and structured manner, she seemed very very confused and a look at her face shows that she has been crying a lot over the 6 years period she deserted but i am not moved.She wont say i rescind my decision to divorce but she is suggesting she wants to come back and expects you to pamper her and rather apologize to her.At the ADR i nearly lost my guard and tell her we should get together again then she marred it with new set of allegations. Thats when my decision to give up on her got stronger and unrelenting.
@@emmanuelofori6521 It is better to be alone than with an impossible person.
I have realized that l fell in love with a narcissist
Keeping a narcissist away let them know. You know they are one and your taping every single thing they do. It’s the last thing they want because they know who they are
I found the best way to get rid of the Narcissist was to laugh at him when he was being serious !!!! I am 16 stone and much bigger than him !!!! He stormed off in a bad temper when I burst into laughter !!!! I never see him any more, so he goes around spreading his misery to anyone who will listen to him !!!!! He mainly picks on shop assistants because they are not allowed to tell him to F*ck Off !!!!
Perfect! I'm going to try this! Thank you!
@@ocean3638 It helps if you pull a funny face when they talk to you !!!! They get really annoyed !!!!
Every word is true in here in relation to the visible demons, called narcissists !! I lived with my ex-girlfriend 3 years, she was narcissist, and my life was over almost ! Horrible people ! Finally I left her, and never talked to her after that day ,almost a year now. Run from them. They are true devil !
This is the real definition of narcissist "visible demons" same here my boyfriend has been treating me this over five years hoping that he will change one day but impossible there are selfish in every thing hoo, some times I think is devil agent sent to destroy my life 😭😭
My dear pen pa l@allondone914 I honestly do feel sorry for you, relly! + just a quick thought? Not even I tryed it? Just use their methods on them, a litt - ttle bit of their own medicine? Let's experiment on them, how they like, their ownremedies???!! Sure hope your situation & life came to emprove or became better?
My ex-boyfriend is a narcissist and he is physically and verbally and emotionally abusive. After I finally got tired of getting my ass kicked I stood up for myself. I sprayed him down with a can of wasp spray and whooped his ass and busted him over the head with a glass and I haven't heard from him since. Normally I don't condone violence but sometimes you're simply not left with any other choice. If they're emailing you and you want them to stop get the block sender Chrome extension and set it up where you never see any of their emails again.
This is why I've always said: "Sometimes, violence is not only AN answer, it often is the ONLY answer." Way too many examples in recorded human history proves that.
I am so thankful to have listened to these back-to-back videos. I have a scary narcissist in my life right now. An event just occurred that woke me up suddenly to what I am dealing with. Thank you for all this wonderful advice. She lives right down the street from me and it is impossible to avoid her. Although I am terrified, I will do my vest best to appear strong and unaffected. Thank you so much.
I have a dangerous narcissistic alcoholic husband and finally recently realized the extent and what I'm dealing with trying to figure away out😢
My son, who is a narcissist, went as far to destroy a will his father and I had written to protect our grandchildren. His father and I were fearful that it would happen. Although his father and i were divorced at the time, we had to stick together to avoid allowing our son to claim the entire inheritance for himself and try to make sure that our grandchildren would have funds for college . Well our son found the will which disappeared from the safe deposit box miraculously. He immediately claimed himself to be executor and tried to claim everything including the retirement account that he couldn't find a way to claim. I have been able to retain that retirement account, but the grandchildren were left with nothing ....and the narcissist claimed everything else. Be careful and make sure to get any wills certified through the court. A narcissist will destroy anyone and anybody..including his own children. What I know for sure is that God will make it right . I pray for all of us if we're dealing with a narcissist
The narcissist biggest cryptonite are people who love themselves.
The first time you see disrespectful behavior get out asap.
You can save all the text messages you want, when you present that to them, the cycle keeps going.
They thrive on that.
Your only weapon is silence.
They will self destruct, talk about you like a dog and people will start seeing them for the pos they are.
I got ride of all that negative energy on my phone.
I felt better as soon as I did that.
It drove him in sain when I kept silent when he started putting me down.
HAVENT YOU EVER HEARD THE EXPRESION ..."STAND UP TO A BULLY"..PUT THE FEAR OF GOD IN THEM....THERE IS NO ARGUMENT.....THIS IS THE WAY IT IS......END OF ARGUMENT.....
God bless anyone who has escaped these kind of people. I have tried to leave my ex for over a year. Several times while I am at work my son will text me dad's here.... I dread the drive home only to find him on my porch a "changed man. No matter how many times I tell him it's over or how many peaceful days I have away from him as soon as he decides he's coming home he does and the cycle begins all over. He is physically abusive and I honestly see no end to this. Police jail time no contact mental hospitals rehab, he always comes back. He's great for a few days then the gaslighting starts and after mental tricks and tormenting me for a couple of days the abuse starts again. If you can escape please please do.... I have accepted my fate he will kill me before it's over. Learn the signs and get out early.'
Nooo you can get away from him forever. You are stronger than you think. Please get away ASAP to a safer and peaceful place. You can do it. Tc ❤🙏
Omg , please 🙏🏻 get away !!!
Your kids will thank you …!!!
@@munichgirl2514 I am trying so hard I testified in court against him last Monday and he made bail on Tuesday since then he has made a hundred trips up n down my road n six trips to my neighbors today he is calling and harassing my friends I just don't know what to do
I wish I would of seen this on the 1st of may 2022 as I met two massive Narcissists who wanted me to be dead because I turned down their advances as they were in a very lustful energy, but either way my intuition and decernment saved me in the end but this would of saved alot of time and energy I wasted talking and giving unconditional love
Thank you anyway keep up your informative videos 💞🌍,... They both said they missed me even though they Wanted me finished
True it should not be used as an excuse to kick people when it is your turn to give back
11:32 Would love to forward this video to my family, but they are the narcissists...😅
Thanks so much,you have accurately described some people I had to deal with.I was wondering how on earth they are teaching in Sunday school and yet stealing my properties without any remorse.They are always jealous and never want others to succeed.Its exactly what you've described here.
I think the narc thinks he/she will appear holy, glorious, respected, and innocent if they take a role of leadership in church. It's hiding behind a facade of religion. Eventually, their true colors will show when they are challenged by a strong person. Been there, done that....😂 I know now that many an Elder and Pastor were narcissistic. Their behavior will manifest, trust me on that.
Sound like your describing LDS people (Mormons). Terrible, terrible people to do business with!