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Origins of Tone! - Marshall vs Fender vs Vox (VERY LOUD!)
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- Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2019
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Watch Chappers & The Captain crank up the volume and reach 115dB in the video room by putting the original three amps to the test. Fender, Marshall & Vox, all great amps but only one will survive... Let us know in the comments section below which one you thought sounded best when put to the test!
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That setup is gagging for the Korg Miku
Ikr? Totally missed the opportunity to get that CLASSIC tone smh. 🙄
Would you guys consider doing a "glossary" video? "Here's what farty sounds like..., Here's what fizzy sounds like..., Here's lots of compression..." etc. Love your videos guys!
YES PLEASE THIS
Please make this happen. That would be fun!!!
That would be awesome. Farty, fizzy, boxy, etc etc, and possibly how to fix them too!
Odd. My response disappeared but I'm still notified of others' responses to this comment.
I’d love to show you what farty sounds like!
The secret to great tone: TURN UP THE VOLUME MAN
Yes. Or in other words. Get a smaller amp, that isn't going as loud and you will get the same result.
Yes. Sadly for years and years guitar amps have always mislabeled the tone knob and labeled it as volume... I can't figure out why they haven't realized it yet.
as the old saying goes "If it's too loud, you're too old!"
@@p_mouse8676 It is the pressure and movement of air that makes those amps so great to play. Sure you can get something smaller but it will not be the same results.
I run my JCM900 at 2 1/2 and it sounds glorious.
Rob is smart to wear ear plugs. I've been playing loud music in dive bars for more than three decades and I have permanent tinnitus, likely from all the aforementioned loudness. Be smarter than I was.
WHAT?
Huh?
Lawrence Gillespie you what?
Lawrence Gillespie yeah, I’ll have a Guinness mate.
My ears have constant ring from too many “fun” gigs!
"Can this footswitch do all three at once?"
Captain Lee, always asking the important questions
They definitely have to do that!
The look on his face as he asked the question was priceless... looked like a kid in a candy store
Not watched these guys for a while. Lee’s playing has improved immeasurably
lee is damn good now.
Same and Same
The obligatory “lee’s gotten better” comment. Every dang video. Stop it people!!
He took private lessons from Justin Sandercoe of JustinGuitar fame. The lessons are posted on RUclips.
The dislikes are people who live in that house 40m away or whatever they said xD
Must be a large family
What!!??? I can't hear you
you should sell cheapo beach balls with the Andertons logo on them
I remember the day in 1971 when our guitarist brought his new Marshall stack to rehearsal. Fortunately I was playing through a pair of Ampeg SVTs with an 8x10 and a 2x15 cab, so I could match him decibel for decibel. So fun! 😎
Thats why he needed the Marshall stack! you and the drummer!
Were you in a band or working for a remodeling company?
@@bassplayer2011ify Wrecking company I think, but hey, it was 1971! 😎
Next: JCM 800, Orange Rockerverb, and EVH 5150
The Over-Editing makes these Videos so fun to watch. I bet Rory is having a great time even coming up with this stuff🙈
Hats off to anyone who’s able to read that scrolling text while also listening to the presenters.
It is a bit quick isn't it!
Made me a bit queasy
@@andertons No issues here, but I get it. My GF complained too.
I'm listening, watching the scroll text, and replying to this comment simultaneously!
@@andertons It looked like interesting info though! Stick it up on the blog!
14:55 - That lead tone is pure magic.
That was incredible, but let's take it to the next level. Ultimate doom rig: SG tuned to B standard with treble booster and fuzz into 200 watts of Orange and 200 watts of Laney. Pay off your neighbor, everyone has a price.
I went to Musicstore in Germany to buy a Kemper, I came home with an AC30!
My god that thing is ALIVE! Recorded tones and vids never do it justice, you NEED to hear and FEEL it to fully appreciate it.
It's what every guitar player wants to do every once in awhile. Feel that air moving and your body vibrating.
Very late reply, but yeah, this is exactly what every guitarist should experience. I lived in a very secluded rural area for a few years as a teenager, and I was able to crank my Twin Reverb nearly every day out there (of course, wearing hearing protection lol). Even though I wasn’t as good then as I am now, there’s something spiritual about being enveloped in the sound of your amp. It truly feels otherworldly.
You’re both commenting on how loud it is... meanwhile your mates over at “That Pedal Show” are sayin’ “Hold my Beer!”
To be fair, That Pedal show rarely goes above 105 and I don't know if they measure 2 feet in front of the speakers the way Rob and Lee did in this video. 115 is WAAAAAY louder than 105. PS. In Mick's case its probably "Hold my Wine!"
@@livingthedream137/videos I think TPS has theirs somewhere further away because 105 is pretty loud. I'd prefer something around 100 dB @ 1m max for something that sounds amazing but is not painfully loud. 115 dB is the kind of volume where you don't want to stand in front of the amp and nobody is going to play that loud anywhere these days, it's the kind of volume where it does not get better, just more painful.
kasakka the best gig I’ve been to for guitar tone was Mick, Neville and Jamie at the Cream gig they did at Bristol Jazz and Blues fest. Mick’s Two Rock, Neville’s Friedman 50W and Jamie’s two Dr Z amp’s all screaming out White Room was the most visceral punch in the gut I’ve felt, and I’ve been in the pits during the V8 F1 era!
Lads, if you wanted to hear loud, you needed to see Free live. They made The Who sound like a smooth jazz band. My hearing is definitely a victim of a misspent youth at those concerts. I'm talking tinnitus for days afterward.
All I can think of is the Colorsound+HIWAT episode they did.
"Biblical Guitar sound" -Mick
Once again the Vox seems to shine though it all and sparkle...................Still sounding like an instrument all be it with a little grit.
This is how electric guitars should sound like.
I don't think the full blown amps sound any better than a moderate volume sound from preamps tubes or a drive pedal.
Brian May got the treble boost idea from Rory Gallagher when he asked him how he got his sound after seeing Taste. Rory Gallagher is a Legend!!!!!
"Rob and Lee Decide to Go Moderately Deaf in a Small Room (Part 1)"
Genuinely, I do worry that you may need better ear plugs for this sort of thing.
And I too worry about upsetting my neighbors that aren't even mildly close to me, but my amps aren't NEARLY as loud as those buggers... I do hope they weren't bothered, heh.
I'm worried that the earplugs aren't doing anything. When using those foam style plugs, they should be compressed and then inserted deeeeeeply. Whenever we use them, they're nearly flush with the opening of the ear canal. Rob's look like they're being used as decoration and not very much for utility.
@@TrashHulk "Push them in till they touch" seems to be the guideline
@@wea69420 You have to roll the end of them in your fingers, then put them in and let them expand in your ear. They definitely didn't do that.
@@derekbaker247 oh yeah. I thought of it as obvious but it seems they didn't.
It would be nice to hear some room audio for the amps. I always think it helps you get a better idea of what the amps sound like if you were there playing them, rather than hearing them on a recording.
AC30 sounded the best gunned into their setup here.
5:10 that middle position got instatly yeeted back where it came from 😂
I love how much you guys love this. Really not my favorite kinds of sound, but the joy is palpable :D
hahahhah THE SLIDE
♥ Rory
😂Yeah, that was pretty epic indeed!
Must be a dad
That les Paul into the vox sounded so good
Same, i am surprised that combo isn't used more as they really compliment each other well
U_Say_What_Fool my rig. It rocks!
I use a Les Paul with two 15 watt EL84-powered combos. That tone is pure magic!
Vox AC-series are the best. Those cleans and those overdrive sounds are great with any guitar plugged in.
I play my bluesbreaker cranked every day and I can't get enough of it!
Always good to see you two together. Tones that seem to always work best for me would be a Fender into a Marshall and 4x12, or a Gibson into a Fender amp. My Les Paul through my 65 twin reverb is perfect, my tele and strat sound best into my JCM900. Something about a high output guitar into a clean amp, and a low output guitar into a high gain amp just works.
Totally pointless video. YET, one of your best 😂, this is just something every guitarist wants to do, great stuff guys.
As was said recently, Anderton's TV is the Top Gear (Clarkson era) of Guitar videos. .... Just because something is pointless doesn't mean it can't also be hilariously entertaining. :)
@@pulaski1 totally 100% agree man, love these guys like I do Clarkson, Hammond, and May🤘🏼
Commenting to give some love to the Bassman which I think is underrated in classic amp discussions, definitely my personal favourite tone (no matter how much I like tube driven trem and spring reverb)
Editing here was fantastic!!!
A warm hearted ‘Miss you’ to Chappers and the Captain.
Welcome to life as it used to be in my teens 49 years ago when you stood on a stage being regularly kicked up the arse by these beasts. Bass through a Marshall stack is a real personal experience that lasts a lifetime That's why we are all deaf.
What? Could you repeat that?
I have a British made AC30 and it is crazy loud, even compared to the JTM 45. I can only imagine what their ears felt like after sitting so damn close! Great to hear the Holy Trinity of tube amps in one session guys.
The secret to amps like this is turning the bass all the way down so they roar more than flub.
Adding an aftermarket choke will help this:)
i use a 70’s music man with a 15” speaker and i’ve always found using more bass helps my tone. although i am using a jaguar and in a 3 piece band. so more bass helps us sound a lil bigger.
@@Cauldronofbats666 The 15" will handle bass far better than anything else, so your choice doesn't surprise me. It also handles clean sounds better than anything else.
@@Cauldronofbats666 That is really interesting. I noticed they were using sounds that were primarily distorted, and when you turn down the bass on old amps like these it gets rid of the flub that occurs when you crank it and makes the amps roar more and sound more crunchy and tight.
Oh yeah. I use a Vox AC30 with a treble booster. Such a roaring tone. Ala Brian May :)
Been waiting for this!
Man I’m in love with my Vox all over again!
As per Rob's comment about Brian May's odd choice of putting a Treble Booster into an AC30, you have to keep in mind that the old Vox were much darker in tone than the new ones. Plus he cranks them up, which increases the low end and scoops some of the mids (thanks to the Fletcher & Munson curve). If you want a TB pedal to make sense with your new Vox, turn that Tone Cut to the right until it sounds great!
This is their best video and all three amps together is a perfect rock sound.
Really liking the text with extra info at the bottom of the video!
Lee playing sunshine of your love. Hot DAMN! What a tone
That is why they are classic amps. Thank you guys just pure unadulterated joy!!! I miss my old plexi from when I was a teenager but not sure my neighbours do!!!
Back in the day we just cranked these and loved it...LOUD!! And so did the crowd!! We just loved it
I've been to a Yingwie M concert and my ears were ringing for 3 days (no joke). I wondered how Rock musicians survive onstage loudness and wall of Marshall stcks....until someone on the met kindly taught me that they use in-ear monitors and often time those 'wall's are cardboard lookalikes - probably only one mic-ed is real. Thanks for the wonderful experiment video!!
AC30 all the way. Fantastic with those mids and highs. ESPECIALLY in a band where there is a strange thing called a “bass guitar” to take care of the low end, and anything below 150 coming from a guitar just gets in the way.
Lee's playing has improved so much over the last 6-12 months. Sounding great!
Man last time I was this early Lee couldn’t play guitar
10/10 comment
@@JPDevlin no doubt
Samurai Studios Yeah, but through playing with people like Rob and Pete he has improved drastically since I started watching
@@garrettcarrigan2354 for the last couple of years he's really been outplaying Rob. He's always had more soul but now he has the technique to back it up.
He’s been playing for 30 years.
Awesome video! Had expected to like the Marshall most but ended up liking the Vox the most. Glad I watched this with a volume control 😂
Anderton's editing keeps on getting better with each video
Also that Tele and Vox tho...
Nah that Les Paul and the Vox tho......
we used to play at those volumes all the time - I mentioned it to my mate dave , he said 'half past 6'
Been waiting for this video ever since Pete posted those amps on his Instagram story. Love it.
Ahhh Pete is such a tease... Glad you liked the Video!
The beach ball had me laughing so hard
Haha me too!
Hey Captain use double hearing pretection by adding ear muffs. It’s dangerously high but cutting out another one or two DB can’t hurt!
I don't comment a lot on the videos, however I do watch a ton of them. They are much appreciated and always excited to see the new ones you produce. AM I YELLING?
Great upload! Me and my mate talked about these amps and their lineage today over lunch... So cool...
The lemon burst Lester and the 335 are amazing. Loved it.
Thanks for sharing, guys.
The video content is great, the editing is the cherry on top. Thanks to whoever that slide genius is.
That crazy German, Henning, did a review of a Marshall 20w Studio Vintage fully cranked once. He damaged his ears in the process.
Great sound of course, but I wouldn't do it this way.
Not without proper protection
OMG what a joy to hear all the 3 amps at the same time. Your berst sounding video EVER! Congrats chaps!
Tell the truth. You've been watching some Johan Segeborn and wanted to try some of that cranked amp fun :)
For real that was my first thought haha but I think Johan plays even louder, when I watch him the room literally shakes
@@adamtwelve sometimes I crank my amp like that. I live in the suburbs, and I only do it during the day when most people are at work. No one has ever complained.
@@thephotoyak haha yeah me too, it's amazing how loud even just a 15 watt Orange head can be through a 4x12 at only half volume 😁
Yes. :D Feels good man.
My one concession to decadence as a bedroom hobbyist is a 70s AC30, I cranked it once and my whole room felt like it was going to crumble. I wish I could do justice to that amp.
That fuzz is terrible. The Vox is extraordinary.
Imo.
EL84's for the win!!!
I think the thing with the fuzz was the amps were literally too loud, and already clipping too hard, for the fuzz-effect to be beneficial.
Didn't they use the fuzz as a boost back then? Drive down, volume cranked? I think that would yield a more pleasing sound
@@JohnvanCapel The fuzz would have been fine if they actually understood how to set cranked tube amps so they sound good. The secret, which all the classic players utilized, and which escapes the majority of modern players, is to crank the mids and treble and turn the bass OFF. Power tubes naturally produce all the low end you need when they're pushed that hard, and adding in any bass with the EQ knob on the amp simply pulls back the mids and adds "flub", as was very apparent all throughout this video. Setting all the EQ knobs at 12 o'clock or even full up does not produce a flat EQ when a tube amp is turned up that loud. Power tubes naturally become more harmonically rich the more they're pushed, but they also become incredibly bassy, so the trick to taming them to get the ideal sound for guitar is to roll off all the bass while keeping the treble and mids up.
In the words of JHS ‘Loud is more good’
hahaha I was thinking about that too.
Pull the bass down on the Bassman and the JTM45 and Crank the Mids and run the Treble a little over half-way. Then jump both channels and run the bright channel and normal channel volume at the exact same volume. MAGIC.
That was great! Reminds me of my 77 silver face twin reverb. Really hacks off the neighbors, even a block away. You guys rock in more than one way.
Y’all need a dB meter!
God bless whoever edits these videos, cracks me up every time. 10\10
Addendum- Lee playing a Les Paul always seems to bring a fantastic extension of his Strat-style that , IMNSHO has produced his most engaging and perhaps, best playing.
The Marshall JTM45 30 watt head in this video has 5881 power tubes and not EL34's as the Captain said at around 2:05. 5881 power tubes are a slightly less wattage version of the 6L6WGB. Read below, I owned 2 of them (JTM45) and recently!
The Tele bridge pickup straight through the Bassman is the absolute pinnacle of Telecaster sound
Dat Bassman doh! Wins this round IMO. Can't believe that's just the regular reissue, pcb and all. What a great amp.
Waiting for Nate & Lee to give us a bass version of this. Nice work!
15:26 - Childhood dream completed
Best Boss Award
15:28 I’ve never seen the Captain that happy!
There really is nothing like cranking an amp! I've only ever had the pleasure of doing it a couple of times. But my favourite was cranking my diezel amp. I had to use earplugs so I wouldn't go completely deaf, but my god the feeling of that air moving was just incredible!! Nothing can replicate that feeling of being punched in the gut every time you play a power chord!!!
Lee just keeps getting better and better
Lol the editing in these videos is always on point! Fun and informative :D
The reason I still have my 100w Peavey Triple X is because 5 years ago I got to crank it.
Great sounds mates.
My Katana pushes 128db at the speaker and about 110db and the other side of the room on near full tilt. I can confirm even with complete noise canceling over ear muffs you can hear everything like as you didn’t have them in.
Went to Reno's on Oxford road Manchester UK circa 1967.In the amp room upstairs they had a wall of 100 watt Marshall amp stacks with two 4x12 cabs,angled and straight,in different colours. In the middle of these stacks of power was a weedy looking Fender Pro Reverb which I.M.H.O blew the other amps away with it's tone and power.
At 15:27 I was expecting Lee to shout "THANK YOU GUILDFORD" 😂
That was friggin’ INSANE🤘🤘🤘
Hats off to CAP and CHAPPERS!
Cap, you are definitely playing way more unreserved! You’re Rockin’ 🎸🎸🎸
STILL LOVE VOX TONE
Their reactions, the tones, and the dB readings only allude to the awesomeness of being in the same room as a cranked, proper-sized valve amp ... or two ... or THREE!
My 65 AC-15 has seven tubes plus a tube rectifier. These amps had tube rectifiers; they're not really reissues without tube rectifiers, they're approximations. And they don't sound like the originals. And Vox amps in the sixties had the gold bulldog speakers (picture of one to your left), not Celestions. A friend's 63 has the gold speaker too.
That tele and vox was killer along with the strat and jtm 45. So crispy
Having just invested in an AC15 after a lifetime of Marshall’s, I can say my Gretsch’s, Fenders, PRS, and even my EVH sound sounds so much better through it than the Marshall....
....but all my Gibson’s live through a Marshall.
If there's one thing this video highlights, it's the value of earplugs on stage. I always wore earplugs when I was in bands, and it definitely protected my hearing. Most of my friends didn't, and they all have hearing damage of one sort or another. Even now, I've only cranked my amps up really loud a few times because I worry about hearing loss. Plus, if I take my amps past 12 o'clock, I can hear it clearly in my driveway, with my windows closed, and all I have are two Laney Cub 12R 15 watt combos.
Protect your hearing!
Oh man the end was amazing!
The boss attenuator in the backround was mocking them the whole time
Guys if your're going to do a scrolling marquee at the bottom of the screen, please film in 60 FPS, so that we can read it without hurting our eyes. Thanks.
They could achieve that without filming at 30, but rendering at 60.
Yeah, had to turn on motion interpolation on the TV to better see it. Persistence of vision is a bastard.
Those Queen hints :D
7:33 Hammer to fall
11:16 Tie your mother down
12:09 One Vision
Benni what’s the riff at 7:00
@@jeremydonoghoe9079 I don't know if that's a song, it just sounds like any generic blues riff
Wow captain Lee Anderton! You are turning into Mr rob Chapman himself - liking overdrive and feedback then lobbing your pick at Pete and/or the camera at the end! Wow!
In all seriousness, yet another great video!
Nice touch with that Peter Green lick! (7:54) For anyone who doesn't know, the track's called Oh Well. There's a great video of Peter Green playing it live with Fleetwood Mac back in 1969. 👍🤘
Bravo Andertons ! On vous aime pour ce genre de vidéo ! Bravo !
Psh 115dB, I remember in the old Anderton days on Rob's channel when they cranked the Marshall AFD100 and measured it they were at 126dB. Seriously though, years of excellent content guys, keep it up!
none of those vintage reissue amps are over 45 watts!
Fender Marshall and Vox all singing together. 😢 its beautiful! 🤘🏻❤
Vox is brian may. Red special guitar, sixpence, bm gold strings, bm kat strap booster(what he uses currently) through the rest of his rig(see youtube) and three ac30s on the normal input at full. Sheer bliss!
replace the jtm45 for a 1987x and this is my dream rig. also included, fender spring reverb unit, and full tone tube tape echo.
Thank you and rest in peace Rob and Lee's ears, we appreciate your sacrifice in the name of our entertainment!
as you speak, i can actually smell the heat from the transformers.
Rob playing “Oh well” on that classic combo of a Les Paul through a Marshall makes me feel all warm inside