Gas Mask Safety advice
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- Important safety advice regarding gas masks or respirators.
This video covers realistic risks to those which are mostly theoretical.
In this video, I cover, the risk of asbestos inhalation from filters as well as a general risk of filters degrading over time. The risk of Chromium inhalation from filters which is widely misunderstood and a lot of misinformation is spread around regarding it.
The risk of suffocation if you use a mask with a sealed filter.
As well as the low-level risks of a mask containing talcum powder or a mask being contaminated with chemicals if sold as surplus.
I would highly advise everyone follow the advice in this video to keep our hobby of gas mask collecting as safe as possible.
If you have doubts about a mask, the safest thing is not to wear it.
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"You will sufficate, now let me demonstrate"
Needs a Bond villain voice.
Yeah i didn't know this. My local military shop had one of the Russian gas masks (don't know the name of it had the filter on the right cheek ive seen it in the more creepy gas masks) and yeah put it on and couldn't breathe as the cap was on😅
When I put on a Russian gas mask with ф - 7 and had the cap on
@@lucianstaggs9239 That is an F-7 btw
Cool pls dont
Solution for asbestos filter- make sure to wear a gas mask under your gas mask to be safe
(Sarcasm) duh.
A mask within a mask.
Weaponsandstuff93 the mask has an inner mask, therefore a mask in a mask in a mask in a mask
Maskception
How about a mask within a mask within a mask within a mask within a mask within a mask!
What about a mask in a mask in a mask in a mask in a mask in a mask
This video needs to be watched by everyone with a gas mask who doesn't understand filters great job
Cheers
I've worn my GP-5 gas mask a couple of times so thank you for making this video.
No worries.
Another informative safety video.
Thanks
Yes yes! Brother
Ive seen ur channel before
Those lego men should have learned better
@@EsquimaltNanaimoMTB tescos
Thank you! Just got an GP-5 mask and since i don't know a lot about gas masks in general therefore i decided to watch this first.
Have you breath thruw a "cheapy" five
I've been thinking of buying a gas mask mainly because of the cool factor, and for costumes and shit, honestly, thank you so much for your safety videos, very informative!
Thanks
my brother almost died by not taking the tab out of the filter. I think that was the most traumatized he has ever been
Hopefully he won't do it again.
Owen Charles lmao no offense but your brother is a straight up dumbass
@@Its_a_Snax agreed
Brandon PuppySnax Agreed
I stuck my hand over the plug when my brother was wearing one he had a panic attack. Lmao
Meh-sa-thee-lee-oh-ma
I think is what you meant according to the adverts for class action lawsuits
Col. Hogan
Mee-so-*
a used filter with a nerve agent stuck in it oooooooooh~ I N T E R E S T I N G~
I seriously doubt that's going to happen.
Won’t happen. The military (at least the US Army I was in) is VERY careful and detail oriented about ordinance. Chemical weapons are treated as very serious business and nerve agents are some of the worst. If a mask was used in a nerve agent environment, it would likely be destroyed when it’s taken out of service rather than risk putting it on the surplus market.
A little comfort tip: Take the mask off from back to front. If you wear it over longer time periods, especially in summer, moisture will collect around the exhaling membrane. So if you take the mask off the way you took off that GP-5, you'll smear it all over your face. Just a sergeant's advice^^
Good advice thanks.
@@ye1451 Yeah, that's a valid point. However, I have long hair and I've never had a problem...
Great video you deserve more subscribers
Thanks
I know he is the best
1k likes
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This guy has some leal subs!
Your channel is very helpful thanks
Glad you like it.
Agree
glad I found this guy today when I ordered a gp-5, doing much research on the filter
Thank you so much! I heard one could suffocate but didn't know how the filter worked.
No worries
11:43 This. I can't quite grasp why some people seem so desperate to put on an old filter.
Nice video! It's nice that you're going out of your way to make videos like this, gas maskes aren't toys and people should know what not to do.
Cheers
I noticed you mentioned polish gas mask filters and asbestos in the same sentence and immediately I got worried. I recently bought a polish gas mask from 1983 that looked extremely similar to the soviet gp5 masks. I have worn it but never attached the filter to it. The filter is tall, and shaped almost like a large alcohol flask. I don’t know what model the gas mask is and I was wondering if the filter was dangerous or not. If you could tell me if it is or not, I would appreciate it.
There's not been tests done on the other Polish and Czechoslovakian filters from the Cold War so personally I wouldn't trust them, personally I would recommend you use modern Polish filters such as the FP-5 that still fit on the old masks but are perfectly safe.
Sounds like you have a Polish EO-14 filter, I personally wouldn't want to breath through that for extended periods.
ok thanks
@@Weaponsandstuff93 late a *lot*, but its a common misconception that the FP-5 filter works with the SzM-41M (which im guessing is mentioned), instead use the MS-4 filter that was made for the MC-4 mask. and also a tip: look at the diameter of the "gwint", 40 for the SzM-41M
and the filter mentioned here is the E-014 which is intended to be used with the pipe included, and stored in the (also included) bag
6:55 "Let me demonstrate what happens if you do this." *Kevin Macleod song plays as 3 minutes pass* "Alright that was the demonstra-"
A Point-Of-View Worth Viewing; Solid! Thanks!!
You have been a great help to most people &answer d everyone 's on gasmasks been a prepper says thanks
Cheers
Question, I found a Mk-5 British gas mask from WWII a few months ago, and without any prior research I tried it on and breathed through it without thinking it could cause any harm. I only wore it for a good 3 minutes and I was wondering if I should get checked for anything, especially after finding out they contain blue asbestos.
Thanks
Lung x-rays can show scarring to the lungs I believe but hopefully 3 minutes of exposure to a filter won't have done much
Thanks for this video
I just got a gp5 and I don’t want cancer
This is all speculation, but maybe the talco powder in soviet hoses is for sealing, i mean, it's the same logic with latex gloves, the talco powder seals the holes and porus the latex could have
I think it's mostly for gripping and sweat reduction as well as storage preservation.
Its from the manufacture molds as a release agent and rubber vulcanization process... And powder on gloves facilitates putting them on... Have you ever put powderless gloves on w wet or sweaty hands?
The powder in gloves is to make donning and doffing gloves easier with sweaty hands.
Nice video, I was thinking of getting a gp-5. I know you can't use the original filter, thanks for the info.
This guy made me buy a gas mask
same
Same got a gp-5 because Soviet
@Ryder busta straight busta
For things like volcano ash clouds or smoke from a burning house somewhere (so not chemical) is it possible to dust out an FP-5 and re use it for that same purpose, or is it dangerous to do that? So in case of ash or small dust which is not chemical you re use, but in case of a chemical fire, attack, or any other CBRN-like threat you use another, new one
Very informative video! I'm not a collector myself, but just bought a GP-5 mask for a cosplay. Not even bothering with the filter, and already cleaned the dust/powder out of it, are there any dangers or safety measures to take wearing the mask as is with no filter?
Nope wearing a GP-5 without a filter is perfectly safe, it's just not going to protect you from anything.
Is the threat primarily from wearing the old mask? For example, is it still okay to have an old WWII gas mask inside your home on display, even inside your room?
You should be fine just having it on display. I’d probably seal up the filter with something to make sure nothing can come out if dropped or whatever, but there’s not much to worry about beyond that.
I legit shat my self when I saw the thumb nail :0(
if you take the filter off a old gas mask and don't wear the filter is there still a chance of just the mask having espestos?
I have a quick question. Is it safe to display WWII/any gas masks, without the filter? Or will the asbestos still be in the mask, contaminating the air. Thanks.
Thanks I want one but I wanna see the safeness of them
Could you test if a gp5 hose will have an air tight seal.
No such thing as a GP-5 hose, it's simply a Soviet 40mm hose, my OM-14 hose has a rip in it but the ShMS hose works, to test it simply block the intake of the hose, if air gets in the hose has a rip in it.
Weaponsandstuff93 so using a hose on a mask with a national filter would not work.
What's a "national filter"?
You could attach a GOST filter to a GOST hose and see if you can smell anything, but that could be a result of a filter failure, you could fill a sink with water, keep each end of the hose out of the water but put the house underwater, and see if any water gets into the hose.
Weaponsandstuff93 a ment nato would it work with a hose
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Do you need to wear a filter with a gas mask? I want to get one off of amazon, just for Halloween. So what should I do? I love you’re videos and thank you if you get this.
Only if you want it to protect you from airborne threats, without a filter you just breath regular air.
Weaponsandstuff93 thank you really appreciate it
What mask you getting?
thank you very much. I benefit from your wealth of knowledge.
I know a guy who ran in a gp5 I believe when he served in the army
He has not have a lung cancer
Asbestos related cancers can take 30+ years to develop and not everyone gets them. If the filter isn't leaking you can't inhale the asbestos, however knowingly using an asbestos filter is basically playing Russian roulette with your long term health.
He's an lucky one
I bought a couple of used S10s recently and they have a bad smell about them. I'm not sure if it's because of the aging rubber, the place they were stored or if it was used in a contaminated area. I've washed them with dish soap and warm/hot water and the smell is still there. Is this normal or something to worry about?
Btw thanks for replies to my other questions, I really appreciate all the help.
Most rubber will have some sort of smell to it, wash them with diluted TCP liquid to get them cleaner, you can remove the plastic circle section at the front to clean the mask more efficiently.
Ok I will try that soon
i have an old ms 3 filter that before i did research, i had my brother fart in my face, it doesn't leak but it was heavily used, anyways, it surprisingly still works, only wore that chromium filter twice luckily
Ok woah woah WHPTHOW?
Can you sleep with a gas mask on, or would the breathing resistance be too high and suffocate you? Also, how can I keep the metal parts on a gas mask from rusting when I clean it?
As long as you dry it properly it won't rust, and yes you can sleep with gas masks on but it won't be comfortable.
What gas mask would you suggest for a prepper?
I've done videos on this but the Shalon 4a1 is one of the best masks for someone wanting a dependable mask fairly cheaply.
Weaponsandstuff93 thanks, I'll have to pick one up.
the german i think its either m65 or m62 (im not good with numbers) its reliable, sits well on the face, is leightweight, you have good vision, doesnt get blurry, it can take a lot of stretching (idk why but the first i ever bought is still in top performance and my gasmasktest are going beyond anything even considerable as abuse) in general a good mask for beginners and good for preppers
is there a specific way to clean a gp4? cause i personally just dunked it in warm water with dish soap
Thank you for making this
No problem
Also how do you know you filter contains asbestos
A good rule is do not use any filter that's older than about 30 years, avoid Soviet/Russian filters apart from the modern types.
They're either old or Russian
@@kaisipe412 makes sense
@@kaisipe412 or the worst, both
Can modern filters be spraypainted as a cosmetic without ruining the filter or anything similar?
Probably not.
Are there any plausibly safe to use gas mask filters that wouldn't kill you? Half the filters here seem to be dangerous, although understandable due to the technology.
Most modern NATO/RD40 filters are perfectly safe, minor health risks if they leak but in general no asbestos or chromium in modern filters.
Weaponsandstuff93 okay thank you, also i have another question, I have been looking at military surplus gas masks, more specifically the Czech M10 Gas Mask, I have been looking through videos about gas masks from your channel and have seen the one involving concern about chemical/radioactive contamination. Would a more modern surplus mask have that danger?
Thank you!
I have the same Soviet mask as you & I’m using it for a WWI era costume as the filter does look more vintage, is it ok to wear all night for one night? If not what do I do? Are there safer, accurate-semi-accurate WWI masks?
No don't use the filter at all ideally, I'd suggest putting a hose on the mask and then just tucking it into a pocket
Weaponsandstuff93 Crazily enough, I literally just thought of doing that an hour before you commented that! This has worked out perfectly so thanks!
Weaponsandstuff93 And yes I know the mask isn’t at all accurate, but I’m going to be at almost $400 in spending by the end of it, so I don’t want to get a $80 replica on top of it! Haha
Great video thanks
when when did italy stop using asbestos? i have an m.31 gas mask with a CMP A2B filter on it dated 9-12-65
No idea but personally I would never use a filter older than the 1980s from most nations.
Weaponsandstuff93 ya i don’t use it just wondering
+Weaponsandstuff93 their is a channel named Guns, Cars and Guitars 452, that Russian GP-5 Filters or any Soviet Era Filters that was manufactured later than 1972 doesnt contain any white and blue asbestos in the filters. Is that true?
No totally false, I've already made a video with asbestos reports from multiple laboratories with tests on filters from the 1980s.
What type of replacement filters do you recommend? I have one of those Polish GP-5 looking masks.
Fp-5 filter as far as I know it works with Soviet and NATO masks (don't quote me on this)
Hello Weaponsandstuff93, I use a cm-3 gas mask and was wondering what kind of filters would fit my mask and would also asbestos free.
Polish FP-5 filters.
Weaponsandstuff93 Thank you.
oh no i bought a gas mask when i was 11 years old off ebay and the gas mask doesnt fit me im pretty sure it was in used in 1944 so now i think i have asbestosis
You should do a vid where you cut open and eo-19 filter and see what is inside and if it contains asbestos.
Sadly not really practical, would have to buy more EO-19 filters, when I get an electric microscope I may do that though, I'll think about it.
Are you able to take the inside cotton and char coal out of the filter.
I personally own a M1A2 non-combatant mask Ive worn it before im not to sure if a contains asbestos ill be sure not to make that mistake again I believe my model is from 43' thanks for the warning about this.
Most United States WW2 filters contain asbestos but hopefully the filter wasn't leaking and you didn't wear it for long.
@@Weaponsandstuff93 I wore for like less than a minute so I'm probably fine that was a while ago as well the mask is in pretty good condition Ill be more careful now.
Yeah you'll be fine asbestosis etc takes years of exposure to normally develop.
m10 cheekfilters? they safe? they dont leak black stuff, are dry and were vacuumsealed up to a few hours ago. are they safe to breath through or not?
Nobody actually knows
I have a gp-5 I got to wear on Halloween, it said it was charcoal activated and I did say it was coated with talc so I cleaned it should I still be worried about the filter because I’ve worn that mask several times
I know this video was posted awhile ago but would you be able to replace a WW2 gas mask filter with some newer filter. Most likely not but I’m curious.
You need to watch what filters they use
Example gp5 fits 40mm filters so you can potentially use all 40mm filter whit the gp5
@@nhynuke_gamer1595 thanks
How dangerous is talc exactly? I breathed in some when I forgot to clean out my gas mask I only wore it once with talc in it then I cleaned it out after, how likely is that talc being contaminated with asbestos?
Barely dangerous, baby powder contains nothing but talc and there has been barely proven dangers regarding that for decades.
Weaponsandstuff93 thanks for the quick response
The arsenic pre filter is the wrong way round.
how do you wash out talken in a soviet gas mask and where is talken in a soviet gas mask?
He made a video about that
I recently got a Russian mask. The seller claims it’s new and unused, however the mask is dusty and the rubber looks dull and the surface feels roughy and dusty. I have tried to clean it couple times but it looks same after it is dried out. I don’t know if it’s just the rubber material or something else. Also, the metal part of the tube connect to the mask is a bit rusty, would it be a concern?
Just don't use the filter that came with it and you'll be fine. When they say new they mean unissued, it's certainly not new, probably a good 30+ years old.
Weaponsandstuff93 Thanks for the advice. One more question tho, I have read that the production of GP5 ended in 1990s, does it mean that all the GP5 masks in the market right now were made back then?
On chromium, ive been exposed to it in gas form while welding.
Man Thanks.
Good to know!
Cheers
Ok thanks
No problem.
My GP-5 gas mask arrived and it has a bunch of powdery stuff around the lens and the metallic part at the bottom of the actual mask, is that talcum powder or is it just rust?
Most likely talcum powder
@@Weaponsandstuff93 Its very tough and isn't coming off
Great video mate
Cheers
Once I wore a WWII British Army gas mask with the filter...
I bought a polish sr-1 mask with the hose and filter. Would it be safe if I dispose the filter or maybe the hose too and put it on display?
No need to dispose of anything, just keep the filter plugged, the hose is totally safe.
*WS93*: British gas masks also had an arsenic filter Me: Didn't they already know that stuff was deadly poison ages ago?
The arsenic is a catalyst that removes far more deadly poisons from going through the filter.
I love this channel
Cheers
how do i know if my filter is expired?
If you were to put an asbestos filter underwater would it make it less toxic?
No you would just make the filter soggy
@@Weaponsandstuff93 thanks
I pulled out the plug from the filter issued with my gas mask and the plug was covered in some kind of white dust
I dont know if it is talc, asbestos or anything else
Prob talk what country is the mask from what color is it I might be able to help
*talc not talk
I’m new to masks, thinking about a soviet PMG style, I’d think to buy a well rated 40mm filter off of Amazon? Would that be smart?
(Reposted comment of my own)
Only issue with Soviet masks is you'll struggle to get modern NATO/RD40 filters to fit them properly.
Wow thx i need that
If I breathe in about 30 minutes worth of a Russian gas mask without the filter but with a little bit of talcum powder what would happen?
P.S. Ik you made a video on how to wash a gas mask but could you add more details on how to wash out talc?
Nothing serious would happen.
Weaponsandstuff93 thx, I was starting to freak out lmfao.
Would a 1980s filter for a gp5 be dangerous and the bottom plug of the filter was covered in a whit stain
Don't use GP-5 filters full stop.
Am I safe wearing an m10m filter?
PS if you have a gp5 don't chuck, find an adapter and use a NATO filter or something.
Nobody knows for certain, also NATO filters don't make an air tight seal with the GP-5.
@@Weaponsandstuff93 O yeah that might be important 😂😂😂
So, I've done a lot of exercise and videos wearing my GP5 gasmask, where the filter is approximately 34 years old. What mask should I obtain that is safe to wear on the regular?
Get an FP-5 filter for the GP-5 or get any NATO mask after the 1960s.
I found a nice $11.00 kit that has the mask, filter, and a carrying bag. Thanks!
Which mask? The FP-5 filter is a filter not a mask.
Where do you buy the Polish FP-5 filters? I need some cuz I wear a gas mask with the filter when I airsoft.
eBay, but be careful using a gas mask for airsoft, really easy way to get your eyes shot out.
well could ya send me the seller because when I search it russian, NATO, and other filters pop up.
Hello, i just bought my first gas mask. It is a GP5, but if i get it and i realize that it is contaminated with talcum powder, how do i clean it. Do i just clean it under the water tap?
I did a video on how to clean GP-5s
@@Weaponsandstuff93 I'll watch it right away
Weaponsandstuff93 what gas masks could I get for a cheap price???id say around 13-50 $
I did an entire video on that, please watch it.
What filter would you recommend for the Canadian C3?
Get a 60-40mm converter so you can use any modern 40mm filter.
thanks!
Would the hose of a ShMS be contaminated if it was connected to the original filter?
Potentially but it's a very low risk, bear in mind the majority of Soviet masks that are surplus were never used.
Im a welder i have iron lungs
Can you remove the asbestos
I already said no.
Do you know if the pbf filters have asbestos? I'm not sure the years those were made
Most likely yes, every other Soviet filter contained asbestos.
Hello weapon,I own an m15 what type of it fitlers uses,and which is the best fitler for it
It takes 40mm NATO or RD40 filters, ABEKP3/CBRN filters are the best if you can find them.
Thank you for the information
I just bought my gp-5 gas mask, should I wash the talcum powder off I think Yes. I know there is asbestos inside the filter. I Only use the mask. Are there other Things to do before setting the mask Only on. Sorry for bad english. Greetings from the Netherlands.
Just wipe the insides with a damp cloth to get the talc out.
Weaponsandstuff93 thanks
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Good information! Funny thing is I forgot to remove the plug on the filter and didn't realize it until I tightened up the mask! Instant panic. Needless to say I won't be doing that again. 👍
I got a gas mask from the Solvents what should I do?
Are the activated charcoal filters that come with the gp-5 masks okay to breathe through?
On the condition that they were stored well.
I put on my gp-5 as i got it and just panicked because i too forgot to pull the plug
Hi i just bought a gas mask an old British s10, am using it for a cosplay and i saw a video talking about the dangers, i just got the package in today am alittle afraid to open it lol but am going to an army surplus store on friday to ask about them and check it out, but is there anything you would suggest ?
+Luke wontsay Masks are safe just not some filters, what does the filter look like?
So talcuim powder is safe?
Because im getting a GP5
And I know the filter is not safe
And I will get a safe filter and im a gas mask collector.
Talc is questionable but not incredibly dangerous, just wipe it out of the mask with a damp cloth before using it.
Weaponsandstuff93 ok thanks for telling me that because I am getting a gp5 gas mask and now I know that thanks for the advise.